Interpol, Swedish authorities aiding Saudi hunt for convert from Islam to Christianity

Interpol and the Swedes enforcing Islamic law, which criminalizes apostasy, and trampling on the West's principle of the freedom of conscience. Shameful. "Interpol and Swedish authorities aid Saudi Embassy to hunt convert," by Elizabeth Kendal for Continental News, September 5 (thanks to David):

In late July Saudi media reported that a Saudi woman named Maryam (28) had illegally both embraced Christianity and fled the country. Her family have charged two men — a Lebanese and a Saudi national — with complicity in her conversion and escape. The men will face court on 15 September. Whilst a woman claiming to be Maryam told an Arabic TV channel that she was converted through a dream and has found peace in Christianity, Saudi media maintain it is all either fraud or coercion. The woman’s family has suggested she is a victim of human traffickers. Interpol is reportedly coordinating with the Saudi Embassy in Stockholm and Swedish authorities to find and return the ‘girl’ before her ‘kidnappers’ can move her to another country. Please pray.

Since late July Saudi media have been buzzing with reports that a 28-year-old Saudi woman has embraced Christianity and fled the country, staying initially in a church in Lebanon before moving on to Sweden. According to the Saudi Gazette, the woman, Maryam, appeared on an Arabic TV channel saying she was tired of performing prayers and fasting during Ramadan — rituals that never brought her any benefit. She also criticised Saudi Arabia’s Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. She claimed to have been converted through a dream and said that though she was raised to hate Judaism and Christianity she has come to love those religions since finding peace in Christianity....

Prosecuting lawyer, Humood Al-Khaldi, said that whilst the penalty in Islam of death for apostasy is clear, ‘the roles played by the two men, the Saudi and Lebanese, in making the girl become Christian should be taken into consideration’. He said ‘the court should make sure first that the girl was coerced into converting to Christianity and fleeing the country’. According to Gulf News, ‘Most Saudis reacting to the Khobar woman saga . . . have been calling for stringent action against the Lebanese and Saudi nationals for their alleged roles in the case, claiming that they were “well aware of the consequences of their act”.’...

On 2 September the Saudi Gazette reported that ‘Interpol is co-ordinating with the Saudi Embassy in Stockholm and Swedish authorities to return the girl to her homeland before her “kidnappers” move her to another country.’ The embassy reportedly has started a search for the woman, with the aid of Swedish authorities.

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I am so angry, disgusted,If the story is true ,if that women is delivered to the Saudies by Sweden the only explantion I can think of is the petrodollars and in this case I have a suggestion for the swedish authorities .why dont they send some white ,blond ,beautifull young swedish ladies along with that poor women we all know they will be more than happy to accommodate more sex slaves

"Saudi Gazette reported that ‘Interpol is co-ordinating with the Saudi Embassy in Stockholm and Swedish authorities to return the girl...'"

So we only have the word of mohammedans that Interpol is cooperating with them. They (mohammedans) are, of course, well-known to be inveterate liars, and are probably lying in this case.

Let's hope so!

If this is true (the Interpol aspect)I have only 5 words to say:

F**k the Saudis. F**k Interpol.

'Blacklisting Haqqanis 'not good': Pakistani official

Any decision by the United States to blacklist the Haqqani network as terrorists will negatively impact future relations with Pakistan, a senior Pakistani security official said Friday

The Pakistan-based network has been blamed for some of the worst attacks in the last 10 years’ of war in Afghanistan, such as a June assault on a lakeside hotel that killed 18 people and a 2011 siege on the US embassy in Kabul'

tribune.com.pk/story/433029/blacklisting-haqqanis-not-good-pakistani-official/

Human traffickers involved in kidnapping and forced conversion to Christianity? That's a good one. More projection by the Muslim mindset.

Plans in the kingdom of Bahrain to build the nation’s largest Roman Catholic Church have been challenged by complaints from Sunni Muslim clerics who have signed a petition against any motions to build churches in the Arabian Peninsula, which is regarded as the birthplace of Islam.

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/09/07/plans-to-build-largest-catholic-church-in-bahrain-hit-by-muslim-protests/#ixzz25neF5Uo5

Youssef

Bloody savages will cut her head off if she is returned to Sowdi Barbaria. Are Interpol and the Swedish authorities aware of this?

Escape from Islam!!!!!!!!!!!

You can't make this stuff up!

Might the world help return renegade converts from Islam back to Arabia - the Saudis are our allies and we need the oil!! :-)

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That would actually be illegal for Sweden to extradite her. If there is any chance she could get the death penalty once being returned to Islam's warm embrace - then this would be against EU law. If she is in Sweden then she will have the right to legal counsel and unlike in Saudi Arabia - [don't they need a coup there to remove the Saudi name from Arabia - perhaps it could be called the People's Arabia.] - a woman's word is worth as much as a man's.

A woman is not allowed to leave Arabia - without her male guardian's written permission - under Saudi law she effectively has the same status as an escaped slave.

In Saudi Arabia a woman can be turned into the police - for a reward - if it is believed that she is a runaway!!

You simply couldn't get further from our reality - in that place.

'' ... Dickopf, a former SS officer in German military intelligence (the Abwehr, from 1921 to 1944), following World War II became one of the directors, and then the president of West Germany ’s Criminal Police (Bundeskriminalamt, BKA). Historians have mentioned the close contacts of this former senior Gestapo officer with the international Nazi networks and Palestinian terrorist organizations. In October 1968, with the help of the Nazi-Arab axis, Dickopf, supported by the votes of Arab member states, became president of the International Criminal Police (Interpol). Under his mandate, Interpol did nothing to stop terrorism, the wave of hijacked planes, or the 1972 Munich massacre of Israeli Olympic athletes''

The above comes from the National Review, the link was posted by dumbledoresarmy on the Syrian General thread.

Clearly, Interpol is still tainted.

'' According to the Saudi Gazette, the woman, Maryam, appeared on an Arabic TV channel saying she was tired of performing prayers and fasting during Ramadan — rituals that never brought her any benefit. She also criticised Saudi Arabia’s Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. She claimed to have been converted through a dream and said that though she was raised to hate Judaism and Christianity she has come to love those religions since finding peace in Christianity....''

If this is true, I can't but think this tv appearance was somewhat foolhardy.

Not that this in any way makes Interpol (if they are indeed in on it) less culpable.

Vidkun Quisling was Scandinavian. Nowegian in fact but close enough!

Dickopf..
Kopf is german for head.
Sooo...
Dickopf would translate as Dickhead.
Hey I'm just the messenger...

Prosecuting lawyer, Humood Al-Khaldi, said that whilst the penalty in Islam of death for apostasy is clear, ‘the roles played by the two men, the Saudi and Lebanese, in making the girl become Christian should be taken into consideration’.

Hey, he must be one of them there "moderates" that's giving Islam a good name these days.

"she was raised to hate Judaism and Christianity... "---

Bu... bu... but "islamophobia"!.

"she was raised to hate Judaism and Christianity... "---

Bu... bu... but "islamophobia"!.

they are going to send an innocent person to her death chambers.
M

This woman appears to be in great danger. She may need to consider fleeing to a friendly embassy for asylum.

The problem these days is finding a 'friendly' country. Australia? Brazil (they are protesting Iranian persecution of Christians better than most)? Canada?

Forget the U.S., at least for another five months, perhaps.

"F**k Interpol"

It is a sobering thought that Interpol has significant access to the FBI's databases, and presumably that of other Western democracies. Should Interpol really begin to enforce sharia many people will be at risk of legal problems.


OT
Hi TD! just you know today the Canadians closed thier embassy in Iran and ordered the Iranian diplomats to leave withing 5 days.
M

Interpol's head 'to be charged'

"South Africa's police chief (former?) Jackie Selebi is to be charged with corruption and "defeating the ends of justice", state prosecutors say."

"President Mbeki (of South Africa), who is said to be close to Mr Selebi..."

Friday, 11 January 2008
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7183569.stm

These are the people who are committing genocide against the white farmers of South Africa and who are very close to those who destroyed Rhodesia and have, and are continuing, to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing against the whites of Rhodesia.

I personally have some evidence and suspicions of Arabic Interpol agents flying into the US, committing crimes against Arabic nationals and then disappearing back into "dar al Islam" before the local authorities could say "wha' happen".

It gives one a chilling feeling to see enemy agents operating with impunity in my own city all the while being aided and abetted by the highest levels of our own government.

AGAIN
Obama Grants Full Immunity to INTERPOL Operating in the U.S.
http://www.asmainegoes.com/content/obama-grants-full-immunity-interpol-operating-us

Interpol, Swedish authorities aiding Saudi hunt for convert from Islam to Christianity

Interpol and the Swedes enforcing Islamic law, which criminalizes apostasy, and trampling on the West's principle of the freedom of conscience. Shameful.
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*Horrifying*. Why are we giving savage Muslims access to civilized Western countries and our advanced criminal justice network to *enforce Shari'ah*? Madness.

More:

In late July Saudi media reported that a Saudi woman named Maryam (28) had illegally both embraced Christianity and fled the country. Her family have charged two men — a Lebanese and a Saudi national — with complicity in her conversion and escape. The men will face court on 15 September.
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In any even semi-civilized country, a woman has every right both to convert to any faith she pleases, *and* to leave the country. Why are we helping the barbaric Saudis prevent this?

More:

The woman’s family has suggested she is a victim of human traffickers...
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Gross projection.

More:

Prosecuting lawyer, Humood Al-Khaldi, said that whilst the penalty in Islam of death for apostasy is clear, ‘the roles played by the two men, the Saudi and Lebanese, in making the girl become Christian should be taken into consideration’.
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All this means is that Islam has more victims in this case.

More:

According to Gulf News, ‘Most Saudis reacting to the Khobar woman saga . . . have been calling for stringent action against the Lebanese and Saudi nationals for their alleged roles in the case, claiming that they were “well aware of the consequences of their act”.’...
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In other words, they "deserve to die"...and we in the West are now aiding this...

That the civilized Swedes are taking part in this is unbelievable.

Sweden has a proud history of offering the entire Jewish population of Denmark sanctuary during WWII.

If this happened now, would they aid the Nazis in sending them back so that they could all be deported to death camps? I'm not so sure that they wouldn't...

The adult woman is 28 years old...why then does the news continue to refer to her as a "girl"?

If she is in Sweden then I would hope this ADULT woman's right to religious freedom are protected.

Gerard. I'll see your Vidkun Quisling and raise you a Fridtjof Nansen. Look him up.

Charles Lindberg was a Nazi sympathizer too.

He was American, but near enough.

"Human traffickers involved in kidnapping and forced conversion to Christianity? That's a good one."

Sure Wellington; it was much the same with the Underground Railroad in Antebellum times in the South -- those brave whites who helped black slaves escape slavery to the North were "human traffickers involved in kidnapping and forced conversion to freedom"...

My guess is she's taken refuge in the Ecuadorian Embassy.

Is this hunt going on because of some legalistic agreement with Saudi Arabia about tracking down those seen as "criminals" in SA, or because the Swedish authorities believe that the young woman was kidnapped? If it's the latter case, she ought to be safe once the Swedish authorities ascertain that her conversion was voluntary.

"If it's the latter case, she ought to be safe once the Swedish authorities ascertain that her conversion was voluntary."

One would think so, but so many weird things have happened lately that one can't be sure. Suppose they take their lead from the Saudis and decide that the level of proof is too high (i.e., she was 'brainwashed' or 'programmed' and so her protestations of voluntary conversion cannot be relied upon)? She would need some smart Swedish lawyers to puncture such willful ignorance.

"Hi TD! just you know today the Canadians closed thier embassy in Iran and ordered the Iranian diplomats to leave withing 5 days"

Yes I saw. The Canadian press release calls Iran the greatest threat to world security. I take that as Canada's verdict that the West's 33 year 'Phony War' with Iran is nearly over and that more serious acts are imminent. Canada obviously wants to remove their diplomats from potential harm while hindering Iranian terror networks inside Canada.

I hope that your extended family and friends will be OK in the months ahead.

Aardvark

you wrote: (quoting) "Saudi Gazette reported that ‘Interpol is co-ordinating with the Saudi Embassy in Stockholm and Swedish authorities to return the girl...'"

'So we only have the word of mohammedans that Interpol is cooperating with them. They (mohammedans) are, of course, well-known to be inveterate liars, and are probably lying in this case.

Let's hope so!'

I hope so too.

I do not think we should unthinkingly swallow any report that originates only from within the Mohammedan world and from Mohammedan witnesses. Threats and boastings, yes; but in a case like this, where they claim that western authorities are helping them hunt down a person whose only 'crime' is that she has left Islam, I would take their pronouncements (which were, presumably, written for domestic consumption) with a grain of salt.

However:

if so be the report is *true*, or partly true, then I hope that the Swedish Democrats will get onto it, and kick up one HELL of a stink.

Other thoughts: Barnabas Fund. If this woman really is in hiding in Europe, then I am *sure* that Barnabas and Patrick Sookhdeo - and also quite probably Bishop-at-large, Michael Nazir-Ali - may be giving assistance.

Elizabeth Kendal, by the way, may be the same person as the Elizabeth Kendal who helped put together a no-nonsense briefing paper, containing a point by point 'compare and contrast' of Sharia 'law' with English common law, for the benefit of the gentlemen in the House of Lords, a year or two ago, when Malcolm Lord Pearson Earl of Rannoch was asking a Question in the House. If so, she knows her onions.

And another thought.

Magdi Cristiano Allam. Pope Benedict XVI. Convent, nuns, ::vanish::. just like many a Jew was helped to 'vanish' during WWII.

The 'underground railroad' has been mentioned.

There *is* in the UK, at least, an 'underground railroad' of sorts, catering for apostates from Islam, mostly those who've become Christians, but probably others as well. It's mentioned here.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article510589.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family

Anthony Browne, in The Times, online, February 2005.

'THE first brick was thrown through the sitting room window at one in the morning, waking Nissar Hussein, his wife and five children with a terrifying start. The second brick went through his car window.

'It was a shock, but hardly a surprise. The week before, another brick had been thrown through the window as the family were preparing for bed in their Bradford home. The victim of a three-year campaign of religious hatred, Mr Hussein’s car has also been rammed and torched, and the steps to his home have been strewn with rubbish.

'He and his family have been regularly jostled, abused, attacked, shouted at to move out of the area, and given death threats in the street. His wife has been held hostage inside their home for two hours by a mob. His car, walls and windows have been daubed in graffiti: “Christian bastard”.

'The problem isn’t so much what Mr Hussein, whose parents came from Pakistan, believes, but what he doesn’t believe.

'Born into Islam, he converted eight years ago to Christianity, and his wife, also from Pakistan, followed suit...

'Mr Hussein, a 39-year-old hospital nurse in Bradford, is one of a growing number of former Muslims in Britain who face not just being shunned by family and community, but attacked, kidnapped, and in some cases killed.

"**There is even a secret underground network to support and protect those who leave Islam. ** " {my emphasis - dda}.

Now: if such a network exists in the UK, then it seems likely to me that similar bodies may exist in *other* European countries. Perhaps even in Sweden. After all: how did the lady get to Sweden, in the first place?

From the same article that I quoted above:

"With other converts, Yasmin [assumed name of a convert to Christianity from Islam - dda] has helped to set up a series of support groups across England, who have adopted a method of operating normally associated with dissidents in dictatorships, not democracies.

'They not only have to meet in secret, but cannot advertise their services, and have to vet those that approach them for infiltrators.

“There are so many who convert from Islam to Christianity. We have 70 people on our list who we support, and the list is growing. We don’t want others to suffer like we have,” she said...'.

One of Magdi Allam's first articles that he did for the Corriere della Sera in Italy, when he still identified himself as a 'moderate Muslim', before he abandoned Islam altogether and converted to Christianity, was about the 'church of the catacombs': the body of people who, in Italy, had left Islam and become Christians, but were forced to live in hiding under changed names, to protect themselves from the sharia assassins.

Here is what he says, in the piece he wrote shortly after his own very public baptism:

"In Italy there are about a thousand converts to Islam who live out their faith undisturbed.

"But there are also a thousand Muslims converted to Christianity who are compelled to conceal their new faith out of fear of being assassinated by Muslim extremists who hide themselves among us.

"Concerning one of these ‘accidents’ that evoke the subtle hand of the Lord, my first article, written in the Courier on 3 September 2003, was called “The New Catacombs of the Muslim-background Believers”.'

'It was an inquiry concerning some ‘new christians’ who, in Italy, complained of their deep spiritual and human loneliness, over against the laxity of the State which did not care about their safety, and the silence of the Church itself...'.

Magdi's decision to be baptised as publicly as possible was in part to challenge both state and church, in the West, to recognise the existence of those who leave Islam - as he was doing - and to stand up for them.

Anyway, let us hope and pray that there *is* an 'underground railroad' or network of sorts, not just in the UK but across Europe, and that this lady is being looked after.


Amazonas, I'm in Iquitos for the past few months and might be here some time longer still. Up for coffee?

Just how corrupt is Interpol? Just how evil is Sweeden?

**Grooooaaaaaaan!!!Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagony!!!*** And let's not, with deepest shame, forget Knud Hamsun and Sweden's providing the ball bearings for Hitler's war machine (Min Mor, Gud hville henne, var en Norske Jente).

Walker. I'd be delighted. If I was there. I've not been to Iquitos but I'd like to go. I hope it's working out for you. I love even the idea of Iquitos.

Keep an eye out for me on the river.

Hei Kef, jeg er sikkert at moren dine skulle har sagt at det fleste nordmenene var ikke med Quisling.

Lykke til.

I've just started reading Andrew G. Bostom's book "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemtism". It begins with "A Note on the Cover Art" which is Alfred Dehodencp's Execution of a Moroccan Jewess".

It fully documents the execution of a seventeen year old girl who was framed for Apostacy and beheaded. Everyone should read the whole story. It's mind boggling that articles arent' written about this heroic girl today... ...and her words. Which became her epitath; "A Jewess I was born, a Jewess I wish to die". These weren't her last words but I'm surprised they're not on bumber stickers on cars of every Jew in America. She died challenging the pervision that is Islam and holding on to her faith to the last. No threats, no torture, nothing that these monsters from the "religion of peace" did crushed her spirit in the least bit.

They tried to terrorize her into converting, cutting her and drawing blood at her execution. Her last words were, "Do not make me Linger-behead me at once-for dying as I do, innocent of any crime, the God of Abraham will avenge my death". And this story is just one more of the countless examples of Muslim "wisdom and justice".

I'm getting dementia. Alfred Dehodencp's 'painting' "Execution of a Moroccan Jewess".

The girls name was Sol Hachuel. And the description of the Muslims, is both typical and sickening.

Man! Who does these web pages? It's like somebody right out of high school is the webmaster or whatever they're called. I'd make suggestions but I'm afraid you'd just take offense. I've tried to call attention to problems in the past and nothing has changed. Here or Atlas Shrugs. Bummer.

larry

The moment I read it - I too have read 'The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism' - I thought that the story of Sol Hachuel would make an *awesome* chamber opera. Music by someone like Stephen Sondheim.

Can you imagine the climactic scene: Sol Hachuel chanting the 'Sh'ma Yisroel' just before her beheading, while all around her the Mohammedan Mob are screeching their allahu akbars?

Done properly, the thing would be powerfully educational, and then some..

And one might, at the end of the operatic telling of Sol Hachuel's Sanctification of the Name, have an Epilogue - a solo aria, by a robed figure called The Historian, describing the great Aliyah from Morocco, in the 20th century, that saw most of Sol's living kin coming home to eretz Israel, to a free Jewish State where they could at least defend themselves by force of arms against the Mohammedan Mob.

Here is how part of that aliyah was achieved - by an 'undercover' effort even more daring and on a grander scale than that which got our Saudi Arabian sister, convert to Christ, out of dar al Islam and into hiding in the lands of the Infidels.


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/42134

Tuesday, 22 May 2012
David Littman Remembered for Clandestine Rescue of Moroccan Jews

By the way, I should have added this to my previous post " Genocide Watch is moving South Africa back to Stage 6, the Preparation stage in the genocidal process"

It is Jackie Selebi who was the head of Interpol until he resigned in 2008.
It is Jackie Selebi who is South Africa's former chief of police.
It was Jackie Selebi who was charged with corruption by South Africa itself.
Is is Jackie Selebi who is closely connected to the president of South Africa.
It is South Africa that is being charged by Genocide Watch with committing genocide against it's own White Farmers.
It is Barack Obama who just granted Interpol full immunity when operating in the U.S.

If Interpol was being run by people like Jackie Selebi, until 2008, is it any wonder that Interpol would be"...aiding Saudi hunt for convert from Islam to Christianity"?

If Interpol is was being run by people like Jackie Selebi, is it any wonder that Interpol would be working to promote Islam and Sharia in Europe, or maybe in the U.S. itself?

And we have to ask, why would our own President take away American sovereignty, within our own territory, and offer it up as a gift (jizya?) to an organization like INTERPOL?

Huh? I just re-read this whole blog and then it finally hit me.
This might be why Saudi Arabia is getting so exercised over the conversion of one little girl from Islam to Christianity.

This might be the first snowflake in the avalanche.
This might be how Islam ends.

I've often thought that the solution to the problem of Islam is for all Muslims to renounce Islam and convert to a real religion.

Now Saudi Arabia has proven that this is the thing that they fear most.
Look how hysterical the Demons of Saudi Arabia are getting over one girl converting to Christianity. And the lengths to which the'll go to to drag her back into Hell

And that's why they're trying to raise the cost of conversion so high, to dissuade others from leaving Islam.

Once muslims begin to see that they can convert without consequence, all of Isalm might "flash over" and disappear in a short time.
It might be like a single pin prick letting all the air out of a balloon.

If only a way could be found to give Muslims the option of converting without having to live in fear of their lives.

I think you're right, that this is *one* of the things they fear most, hence the disproportionate hysteria over this young woman's conversion to Christianity. And, of course, the reason for their draconian attitude to Christian, or other faiths, proselytising.

You said:

''Once muslims begin to see that they can convert without consequence, all of Isalm might "flash over" and disappear in a short time.
It might be like a single pin prick letting all the air out of a balloon''

I really wish this was true, and that you were right, but I don't think you are. Isabellathecrusader (I hope she's ok, haven't seen her posting in a while) used to describe islam as ''mo's worship-the-penis club.''

And I think this is a **huge** attraction for an awful lot of muslim males. Having total power over the women in their lives is a terrible perk for these pathetic creeps. Power to demand sex whenever they want, certainly, but perhaps even more, being able to **use** women in any way they want.** For sadists and psychopaths, islam legitimises their most evil desires. I don't think these types of people will be dropping their vile cult any time soon.

Hopefully, muslims who are decent people at heart, *will* leave this foul 'religion'; we have apostates here, like Saleemsmith, Istanbul-Chick, Fineliving, Shakila, and the latest, Amelia. But these essentially decent people seem fewer in number than those who clutch islam because it validates, and **sacralises** (thanks to dda for this idea) their most vile and cruel, selfish desires.

I hope I'm wrong, and you are right.

Cole wrote:

“In Saudi Arabia a woman can be turned into the police - for a reward - if it is believed that she is a runaway!! You simply couldn't get further from our reality - in that place.”

That is correct. Or a “prostitute”:

I used to get my vehicle washed by these Ethiopian expat Muslims in Riyadh, because they did a fine job and were fast, cheap and likeable. I think it was 35 riyals for the whole nine–yard wash, wax and interior cleaning (around 9 dollars, plus tip).

One day, the Boss asked me if I was interested in having his wife do maid services for us. I said, “Yes”, as we were currently looking for a helper with the kids. He asked if his wife could bring their baby girl along with her to the job. I said I’d have to check with the wife. My wife (at the time) objected vigorously on grounds that are better left unsaid on this site.

Anyway, I had to lie to the black man and make a lame excuse.

About a week later, the ex-wife changed her mind and asked me to go see the carwash man. I did. His wife was scheduled for an interview. She never showed up.

Later, I found out that she had been picked up in the DQ on her way to our place by a Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtue Goon who asked her if she wanted a ride. She got in the car. When she spurned his advances, he had her jailed as a prostitute.

She, her husband and the baby were all deported within days. They simply disappeared.

The carwash closed up.

Amazonas, I've been bumming around as far south as Asuncion and as far north as here for the past year, all of this on my way to Ecuador. From there I hope to head off to Easter Island for a short stay on my way to Papua New Guinea and beyond to Indonesia. If I don't get a chance to have coffee with you soon I'll probably have to pass on in in this lifetime, but I hope later to meet up with Kepha. Hope we can meet somewhere, but for now it's all north and away.

Yalla, Dag.

@Jan
I agree with your response to my comment, as I wrote it, however I really failed to put into words what I was trying to say, let me try to clarify.

The thing that struck me about this story "Interpol, Swedish authorities aiding Saudi hunt for convert from Islam to Christianity" is how unhinged Saudi Arabia is acting.
A single woman tries to renounce Islam and convert to Christianity and the Saudis freak out?
I'd say the Saudi response could be characterized as you say "disproportionate hysteria" or unhinged, panic stricken, terrified, horrified, berserk, bouncing off the walls insane, and fearful, as in mortal fear of imminent destruction.
Just imagine, they're so terrified of this woman being able to leave Islam that they've even had to swallow their pride and enlist the help of a non-islamic organization, INTERPOL.

This is not the response of a country confident of ultimate victory because of the righteousness of its cause, Islam.
This is the response of a country that knows that its fundamental ideology is a house of cards, built only on terror.

Just imagine, a whole country losing its mind over the conversion of a single woman from Islam to Christianity.
Is that how weak Islam is? They can only keep Muslims at the point of the sword? It's as if they're afraid that if even one is allowed to leave then a flood of others might follow and all of Islam might collapse?

We've come to expect this from Islam, and so it just flows by with hardly any notice from anyone, hardly a murmur, but just imagine if the United States were to seek international assistance to help track down and drag back a citizen who had escaped from the United States and converted from Christianity to some other religion.
Just picture the absurdity of it, and just imagine the international uproar if we actually tried it.
And yet when the Saudis do it, all you hear is the mooing of the cows.

Talk about the tyranny of low expectations.
"Ah, but that's what Muslims do, it's their culture, we would never do that, but we have to respect their stone age so called religion."
It's as if the Aztecs had never been conquered and forcefully converted by the Spaniards and the Aztecs were still offering up human sacrifices on their pyramids and cutting the hearts out of living victims. I suppose we'd have to allow that out of respect for the Aztec's religion.

The point is that the idea of anyone leaving Islam terrifies Muslims, their fear tells us their weakness, it tells us how to destroy Islam.
They're afraid that if Muslims are free to leave Islam it will mean the destruction of Islam.
Find a way to make it possible for people to leave Islam without risking their lives, and Islam might disappear.

Islam has had to construct a "Berlin Wall" around itself to guarantee the continued incarceration of Allah's slaves.

I understand the dynamic of Islam, forced conversion and then escape only under the threat of death, a threat frequently carried out.
Islam has that in common with the Mafia, or with any criminal gang, you're free to join, but never free to leave.
About the Mafia, you enter in life, but leave only in death.
Once you're in, you can't get out.

I understand the common explanation of Muslims forbidding anyone to leave Islam.
I understand the motive of Muslims forbidding others to leave under penalty of death.
I understand the vicious, evil, violent nature of a confident and arrogant Islam forbidding anyone to leave Islam and all the advantages their parasitical "religion" gains by holding on to its slaves and dhimmis.

But the revelation is to see the outright fear and panic aroused in Muslims at the thought of anyone being able to freely leave Islam.
This is the other side of the coin of Islam, not the confident, violent, arrogant, ascendant side of the coin, but the terrified side of the coin.
It's the change in demeanor that came over the Wicked Witch of the West when confronted by Dorothy and the one thing that could kill the Witch by causing her to melt, water.
To see that abject terror in their eyes is something new, for me anyway, and that fear tells me that finding a way to allow Muslims to leave Islam might be the way to destroy Islam.

vladtepes may have a point, were Islam not 1400 years old, with centuries of counter-indications to his speculations.

@LemomLine
I'm suggesting we Not continue to do what we've been doing for fourteen hundred years. I'm suggesting we do something new and different, attack Islam at what might be a very vulnerable point, a leverage point. They seem to get hysterical when we push freedom of choice in religion. Anyway, it's interesting to see them on the defensive and on the verge of a nervous breakdown at the mere thought of a single girl renouncing Islam.

Their violent response to apostasy is something I used to see as a strength, but now I see it as a weakness, a sign of fear.

Son of Walker wrote:

Amazonas, I'm in Iquitos for the past few months and might be here some time longer still. Up for coffee?
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Wow, Dag. I just saw Les Blank's harrowing 1982 documentary "Burden of Dreams", about Werner Herzog's making of "Fitzcarraldo". The director was there for the showing.

While Perth, Australia, is the city that is furthest from all others geographically, Iquitos is the most isolated city in the world—isolated even from Lima and most of the rest of Peru.

It sounds like quite an adventure. Hope you are doing well. I still need to order your book.

Dumbledore's Army wrote:

The 'underground railroad' has been mentioned.

There *is* in the UK, at least, an 'underground railroad' of sorts, catering for apostates from Islam, mostly those who've become Christians, but probably others as well. It's mentioned here.
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Thanks for that story, DDA. Horrifying that it's needed in civilized Britain, but glad it's here.

I wonder how Pam Geller's outreach to threatened Muslim apostates has gone. I'd love to know more—without compromising anyone's safety, of course.

Larry wrote:

I've just started reading Andrew G. Bostom's book "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemtism". It begins with "A Note on the Cover Art" which is Alfred Dehodencp's [painting] "Execution of a Moroccan Jewess".
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Larry, a marvelous painting of a horrific atrocity, and an act of consummate bravery on the part of a little 17-year-old girl. Humbling.

Here's Dehodencq's 1860 painting, for those who may not be familiar—or just those who would like to take another look:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Execution_of_a_Moroccan_Jewess_by_Alfred_Dehodencq_.jpg

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