Mona Eltahawy called her Egyptian jihadi attackers "beasts," but spray-painted sign that called jihadis "savages"

"Beasts" -- OK, "savages" -- vile racism.

Islamic supremacist logic is so complicated!

Actually, as I explained here, I think Mona Eltahawy's fascist vandalism of our pro-freedom AFDI ads was her attempt to get back into the good graces of her Islamic supremacist friends and colleagues, who have sharply criticized her for months for her honest piece in Foreign Policy criticizing Islam's institutionalized mistreatment of women.

"Egyptian-American Journalist Mona Eltahawy call [sic] raping Egyptians ‘beasts’ — but accuse [sic] NY metro ads of racism and vandalise them," from The Muslim Issue, September 26:

...Mona Eltahawy was sexually assaulted in Tahrir Square in Egypt during the so called ‘freedom’ protests in 2011. In the video above, with her arm in a cast, she gives her weepy testimony to the assault she experienced and calls her Muslim sex assaulter’s [sic] “wild beasts finding their prey… I was called a whore…. nonstop whore. That’s what I was called” and states that sexual violence (amongst Muslims in Egypt) comes from police and from non-police and they need a revolution of mind. But Eltahawy accuses Pamela Geller of racism for calling brutal Jihad savagery. Jihad and the call to slaughter innocent people is not savagery? How humanitarian of Eltahawy. She sure has priorities to her staged human rights ideals, and free speech is clearly only permitted by herself but not permitted from non-Muslims....

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"Why am I being arrested?" It's called public vandalism! If you want to put up a projihad poster please do so, but don't interfere with the free speech of others.

I think I see the problem here - you need to break her arm and sexually assault her, then she will say nice things about you.

Come on Robert, get with the program!!!!

Ms Eltawahy was assaulted by male members of Egypt's security forces, not by "jihadis".

Oh, the magnificent, hypocritical irony of these two videos posted side by side. Only a mind polluted with and suffused by Islam could possibly exist in both of these two juxtaposed realities.

This latest story and Eltahawy's background experience in the "Arab-Spring, Grass-Roots, Democracy Movement" needs to go viral. The value of this teachable moment is simply too great to be wasted.

Damian wrote:

"Ms Eltawahy was assaulted by male members of Egypt's security forces, not by "jihadis"."

What an abject waste of valueable bandwidth that comment was. This is a distinction without any merit. No where in the posted article did Spencer allude to Eltawahy's attackers as jihadis, so your straw-man opening is noted, yet soundly refuted.

Second, your comment does nothing to establish the grounds that jihad is anything noble, (albeit an Islamic duty) or anything more than violent savagery, which the posters aptly state.

When did you convert...err.."revert" Damian?


You wrote, trying to deflect blame from Islam: 'Ms Eltawahy was assaulted by male members of Egypt's security forces, not by "jihadis".'

But the 'male members (pun intended?) of Egypt's security forces' and 'jihadis' both read the same book, Al Qur'an, and agree on exactly the same things.

So, what's the difference?

You're a clown!

"awake", read the title of the post.

"buraq", please, if you actually have a grasp of Egyptian politics and history you'll stop being so dishonest.

they equating the ad to a white man calls a black man with the "N" word.

a black man calls a black man with "N" is not racism.

or don't call a jew by his jewish name as happen with charlie sheen, lol. this first time I hear about this rule. and I'm a "jew".

this distortion in their thinking, deteriorates not to their favor. it gives the impression, they're admitting to be savages and the word resort only for them for use. and this what they argue. an entitlement for the use of the word savage.

she is admitting to be pro jihadist.

I am disappointed that the cop unable to explain why she arrested. says about police competence.

Mona chose pink spray paint to deface the advertisement. Pink, as in Code Pink. The same Code Pink that was present at the birth of Obama's intifada in Egypt . . .aka the Arab Spring.

As Ms. Gellar has stated in the past, there is nothing on that advertisement that identifies Islam or shariah or Muslim, yet ironically, Muslims instantaneously self-identify as savages as they feign indignation. Even Mona uses the twitter nic "#ProudSavage". The msm reinforces this pathetic indignation by characterizing the advertisement as controversial, racist, etc.

It's like being gaslighted.

From the film's title, "gaslighting" has come to describe a pattern of psychological abuse in which the victim is gradually manipulated into doubting his or her own reality. This can involve physical tactics (such as moving or hiding objects) or emotional ones (such as denying one's own abusive behavior to a victim.) The effect is to maintain the abuser's self-image as a sympathetic person, while simultaneously priming the disoriented victim to believe that he or she is to blame for (potentially escalating) mistreatment.

The msm is guilty of gaslighting, manipulating it's audience's moral clarity/sanity.

Lan Astaslem.

Exactly. Spencer's play on words in the title was used to correlate Eltawahy's hypocrisy, and Damian's response was inherently weak in his attempt to free the religious obligation of violent jihad from it's rightful criticism of being savagery, as the posters state.

Maybe Damian would suggest that the next round of posters should state "Support Israel, Defeat Egyptian Security Forces"? And to debase himself further, to claim to know the hearts and minds of all the "Egyptian Security Forces" personnel involved in the savage rape?

They called her whore. Maybe she wasn't properly covered as prescribed in 24:31. Maybe they deemed her takfir and then enacted jihad retribution against an infidel occupier.

It's all such crap. The posters simply reinforced the notion that Muslims are savages and Islam is anything but a religion of peace. The recent movie accomplished that feat quite adeptly as well.

The mask of Islam is no longer slipping, but rather now, free-falling from its ugly face with each repetitive response from their collective pool of uncivilized denizens.

From comment over at VladTepes' blog:

Mona Eltahawy is the same person that wrote this nasty little tid bit: No dignity at Ground Zero:As a US Muslim I abhor the frat boy reaction. We should be celebrating the Arab spring, not this
“There was always something sickening about tourists taking pictures of themselves posing in front of that big gaping hole called Ground Zero. “Me at site of mass slaughter, NYC” as holiday photo caption is wrong in every language, surely. It didn’t take 10 minutes for the frat party atmosphere to sicken me. Olympic-style chants of “USA! USA!” I could just about take as a freshly minted American, as of Friday. But “Fuck Osama! Ole ole ole!” crushed any ambition of dignity for the thousands killed, many of whom had jumped hundreds of storeys to their deaths, their bodies shattered to pieces close to where we stood.” “The scene at Ground Zero was like a parody of Team America, the film created by the South Park team to parody Bush’s America gone wild on nationalism. Now that we’ve parodied the parody, can the frat boys go home and can we return to the revolutions of the Middle East and north Africa that symbolically killed Bin Laden months ago?” link

As well as this:

The challenge of being a Muslim in post-9/11 America “I stayed to give my middle finger to Tea Partiers who tried to intimidate a group of us in 2010 because we supported the right of an Islamic community centre to build near the site of the attacks. They came to bully us and I bullied them right back. I wanted them to know Muslims will not be intimidated so think twice before you try to bully another one.” link

Huh, Mona, as "john spielman" has already noted, vandalism is not an exercise in constitutionally protected free speech. Duh.

Truly this is a war like no other, one of the few observations made by ex-President Bush that I agree with.

We have been infiltrated. We appear to be kept in a state of anxiety. We are not permitted to name the source of the unrest that suffuses the world and of course, open discussion of potential sources of this unrest is thwarted at every turn. Does this sound like the Free World to anybody?

Citizens like Pamela Hall are to be commended for their bravery. "Sad little woman" indeed! As the murders, rapes, beheadings continue apace as does the apology of our leadership for the alleged provocations leading to those crimes, we citizens need to count on each other for the truth and to take back our society. The only thing sad about Pamela Hall is that there aren't more of us out there with her defending our culture by witnessing to the truth.

This incident is truly a battlespace in the jihad being waged against us. Defend our right to call it as it is.

Mona and Reza Aslan make me sick with their anti-human rights.They are so intellectually bankrupt,just like the Koran,here is an article of the circular argument of Allah in the Koran,it shows Allah was no better.

"The True Furqan,an Imitation of the Koran,written to Prove it False"

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/10/15/the-true-furqanan-imitation-of-the-koranwritten-to-prove-it-false/

AND ALSO

"Evidence Ataturk,Creator of Modern Turkey,Greatest Man produced by the Turkic Peoples,was an Apostate of Islam"

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/07/22/evidence-ataturkcreator-of-modern-turkeygreatest-man-produced-by-the-turkic-peopleswas-an-apostate-of-islam/

It's easy to understand, She's a Muslim woman and she's been taught from an early age to accept and support Muslim violence...even if she's the recipient of the blows and groping from Muslim men...

"Mona chose pink spray paint to deface the advertisement. Pink, as in Code Pink."

Or, Pink, as in ... Aisha's dress, you know, the one Muhammad used to wear!

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/drawing-muhammad-dessiner-mahomet.html

What makes you think that members of Egypts security forces cannot be jihadis?

In Pamela's defense - Hillary Clinton used the same term against the Libya attackers of the Libyan Ambassador.

We must be clear-eyed even in our grief. This was an attack by a small and savage group, not the people or government of Libya.

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As for Mona Eltahawy - why doesn't she tell the truth - across the Muslim world all free women are seen as whores and prostitutes and are called this.

From Turkey to Afghanistan to Morocco.

One US journalist in Afghanistan - who was being taken to meet women to interview - was told by her guide - 'Don't worry everyone thinks you are a prostitute!!'

And more shockingly - it is commonly believed in the Muslim world - that western women don't love their children - think about this the next time - you hear the playing up Muslim motherhood. This maligning goes to the heart of our humanity. And if you have been taught to think about others in that way - what else will you think about them.


Female supporters of the Palestinian cause who are travelling to their territory - are finding that they are almost being raped - and are constantly sexually harassed - and this is only what we are hearing about. It is they who made it 'racist' to talk about these things - and by doing so risk other women's safety.

Mona Eltahawy - she has the get-out-of-being-called-a-racist Muslim card - so she can talk about her experiences and even call her attackers 'beasts' - notice too how the CNN interviewer did not try to quality her statement [with ...all Muslims aren't like that]. She called her Muslim attackers beasts - and she is a Muslim - for the rest of us we would be better off pretending like it never happened.

- The anti-racist groups might organize a public flogging - such as would be done in Saudi Arabia. She was on her own without a man!! Mona stop pretending!


What we are being asked to support is truly horrific. It's the dark ages - which Muslims have been conditioned to accept. And we must make every effort to see that this doesn't descend on us.

In your ignorance and self denial, you wrote: "buraq", please, if you actually have a grasp of Egyptian politics and history you'll stop being so dishonest.

A grasp of Egyptian politics and history, eh? Well, let's see.

In 639, Egypt was a 100% Coptic Christian nation. Then Moslem armies swept in with Muhammad's offer; convert to Islam, pay protection money, or die.

And since then, the Coptic community has been murdered, harassed and intimidated by Islam. The result: Egypt only has a 10% Coptic community now.

These are the facts Damian. Facts can be checked independently by anyone, even you! So, who's being dishonest? Me or you?

You're a clown!

What planet is this weirdo from?

I had posted earlier that the ad was ill thought out and worded. Among its chief drawbacks - it doesn't specify who exactly are the 'savages'.

I have listened to PG defending and explaining the use of the word, she said she didn't consider all or even the majority of Muslims 'savages'.

Trouble is - is she going to stand in front of each ad and explain it? Ads are stand-alone messages. The central message should be understood easily by the average reader without further explanation and should not be capable of misinterpretation.

Mona Eltahawy though still maintaining to be a Muslim has spoken out against the Muslim Brotherhood, demonstrated against it in Tahrir square in Egypt and has been sexually assaulted and had her bones broken by the police there.

She has spoken out against Israel being used by Arab leaders as a scapegoat for their own failings. (What she hasn't connected are these failings can ultimately be traced back to Islam).

She could easily have be recruited on the side of the battle against Jihad (and still can be). Instead she identifies herself as a proud savage and is alienated by the ad.

This incident is actually a huge example of the failing of the ad.

I had posted earlier that the ad was ill thought out and worded. Among its chief drawbacks - it doesn't specify who exactly are the 'savages'.

I have listened to PG defending and explaining the use of the word, she said she didn't consider all or even the majority of Muslims 'savages'.

Trouble is - is she going to stand in front of each ad and explain it? Ads are stand-alone messages. The central message should be understood easily by the average reader without further explanation and should not be capable of misinterpretation.

Mona Eltahawy though still maintaining to be a Muslim has spoken out against the Muslim Brotherhood, demonstrated against it in Tahrir square in Egypt and has been sexually assaulted and had her bones broken by the police there.

She has spoken out against Israel being used by Arab leaders as a scapegoat for their own failings. (What she hasn't connected are these failings can ultimately be traced back to Islam).

She could easily have be recruited on the side of the battle against Jihad (and still can be). Instead she identifies herself as a proud savage and is alienated by the ad.

This incident is actually a huge example of the failing of the ad.


More proof that Liberalism is a mild for of Mental Illness where it numbs their conscience to their sins and harm they inflict on the World such as causing poverty from Communism and Socialism.

When JFK aided in banning DDT, its absence until 2007 had caused close to 50'000'000 death of mostly BROWN&BLACK Children outside of the USA.
Now the eco-fascist like Gore and Naomi Klein want to ban India and Africa from getting Electricity to rural areas which will save lives because Hospitals can be built medicines can be stored in fridges for the shots to kids .

35 plus years of Liberalism in canada has created
pockets of racist enclaves and welfare ghettos full of people thinking that "The State" owes them a life and that canada is so rich that they will never have to work for the rest of their lives.
The craddle to grave Liberalism is a Ponze-Scheme about to implode as it runs out a suckers( tax payers) to fund it, and, Obama does not see that there is not enough money on Earth to fund his pipe-dreams of "free" money for 300 million plus people along with Free health care as if Doctors want to be like Cuba and N.Korea and work for the State with rationed food and gasoline or housing.

Amazing how Liberals scream for their free speech to deny it from others.
Void her Citizenship and send her back to the islamic utopias she exalts by her support for Jihadists as she defaces the ad that denounces savages and murderers.

Were her rapists Moderates??????

"Trouble is - is she going to stand in front of each ad and explain it? Ads are stand-alone messages. The central message should be understood easily by the average reader without further explanation and should not be capable of misinterpretation."

Rich, when I read that ad, the stand-alone message that easily comes to my mind is that Pam is asking people to support Israel against the 'savage' Jihadists. Is that message not clear enough?? By now most lay-people have heard the word 'Jihad', and they have heard it coming from the mouths of terrorists, so they automatically know who the ad is referring to when it says 'savage' and 'jihad'

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"She [Mona] could easily have be recruited on the side of the battle against Jihad (and still can be). Instead she identifies herself as a proud savage and is alienated by the ad."

It seems that people like Mona, the Leftists, and Muslims are the only ones upset at this ad, and the only ones reading this ad different than a lay-person would understand it. Please notice that there is one thing common between these Leftists and the 'offended' Muslims- They all hate Israel, and want it defeated and destroyed.
When they read Pamela's ad, they see the word 'savage' being used against themselves, and used in a offensive way. That is why they are upset. They don't want the word savage used against them in a negative way. They want it to be positive eg #ProudSavage

There is NO failing of the ad. Because of these whining #Proudsavage morons, the ad has gotten a hell lot more publicity than it would have if they completely ignored it. Pamela only displayed it at 10 spots in NY, but the media and TV has advertised it millions. Far from being a failure, this is a huge success of the ad.

It appears both phrases...Support Israel and defeat Jihad offended Mona the Muslim...

Clearly Mona assaulted the other woman...Mona pushed her around and spray painted her....she also vandalized property...deport her and revoke her US citizenship...send her back to Egypt where she is more loved by Muslim males...

Well now, let me think on this a moment. Nowhere does the advertisement mention Islam or Muslims. It does mention Jihad. That has Mona all upset claiming an attack on Muslims in the advertisement. Is she not declaring for everybody who is not tone deaf to reality that Islam calls all Muslims to Jihad against those who are not Muslim?

WE are not saying all Muslims. SHE is declaring it. In putting words into our mouths is she showing us a reality we shy away from considering out of politeness?

{^_^}

What's a "nonstop whore"?

You slippery schmuck! You wrote about the poster: 'Among its chief drawbacks - it doesn't specify who exactly are the 'savages'.'

Nowhere on the poster is the word 'savages'. The singular is used, 'savage'. This means to be against 'that which is savage'. It is possible for the word 'savage' used in the poster to be an adjective.

As an adjective, the civilized man is pitted against that which is 'savage'. The adjective could describe Sharia, or Arab Street's reaction to a cartoon, or Islam, generally because of its agenda to destroy our freedoms.

You're making the strawiest of straw men with your misrepresentation of a subtly worded poster.

And, therefore, you're a clown!

Burping crap ... youre a piece of crap and an braindead a@#hole.

Other people are saying this not only Mona Eltahawy.

Listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3942NAPpYF0&feature=player_embedded

This Buraq fellow is just as much a bigot as the Jihadists and an idiot to boot.

Other people are saying this not only Mona Eltahawy.

Listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3942NAPpYF0&feature=player_embedded

This Buraq fellow is just as much a bigot as the Jihadists and an idiot to boot.

"There is NO failing of the ad. Because of these whining #Proudsavage morons, the ad has gotten a hell lot more publicity than it would have if they completely ignored it. Pamela only displayed it at 10 spots in NY, but the media and TV has advertised it millions. Far from being a failure, this is a huge success of the ad."

There are two ways of measuring the success of the ad. That it has been noticed and millions are informed about it -great its successful in that way.

But if a large section of the public, and I am not talking about Muslims or their supporters, have been informed about it in a negative light and get an unfavourable impression about it, which is the case, then its not a success. They are not upset about it - they just get the feeling that it is provocative (which it is and supposed to be) and bigoted (which it is not).

"There is NO failing of the ad. Because of these whining #Proudsavage morons, the ad has gotten a hell lot more publicity than it would have if they completely ignored it. Pamela only displayed it at 10 spots in NY, but the media and TV has advertised it millions. Far from being a failure, this is a huge success of the ad."

There are two ways of measuring the success of the ad. That it has been noticed and millions are informed about it -great its successful in that way.

But if a large section of the public, and I am not talking about Muslims or their supporters, have been informed about it in a negative light and get an unfavourable impression about it, which is the case, then its not a success. They are not upset about it - they just get the feeling that it is provocative (which it is and supposed to be) and bigoted (which it is not).

''This incident is actually a huge example of the failing of the ad''

No, actually it's an excellent example of the failings of muslims, and this Eltahawy bint in particular.

Because she's a muslim, she cannot understand the difference between free speech, and vandalism of private property, not to mention assault, when she threatened Miss Hall, and then spray painted her.

Also, the ad speaks not of **muslims** as a whole, but ''the savage.'' Eltahawy and leftist tools **immediately ** took ''the savage'' as referring to muslims as a whole. Telling !

Eltahawy and leftist tools **immediately ** took ''the savage'' as referring to muslims as a whole. Telling !

It's called synecdoche (or, less hifalutin'ly, inference or deduction).

This is not only not the first time this has happened, it is a mainstay staple of the PC MC paradigm to assume this extrapolation. It is hardly a peripheral or tangential reflex spasm on Eltahawy's part, but goes to the heart of the entire PC MC arsenal -- which Muslims have been exploiting for years -- in the war of ideas. (Muslims don't have PC MC, since PC MC is a solidly Western growth: it is utterly foreign to their culture and to their psyches, but they are at least smart enough to see how powerfully conducive it is to their jihad of the pen & tongue -- indeed, it is the head of the West handed to them on a silver platter by the brainless Westerners).

At the very least, the synecdoche alludes directly to the TMOE principle (the Tiny Minority of Extremists). According to PC MC, if anyone at any time in any way pushes the envelope of the TMOE principle even by the slightest implication that there might be a broader problem than a "tiny minority" who are distinguished by an iron-clad wall from the "vast majority" of decent harmless Muslims, then that triggers the alert to suspect bigotry or racism is afoot.

I've noticed countless instances over the years where it doesn't matter if we protest that we are not talking about "all Muslims" -- we are still vilified as though we were.

I say, what's the point in continuing to assure our detractors that we don't mean "all Muslims". Since we cannot tell, with reliability sufficient for our primary purpose of defending our societies, the difference between

1) the deadly Muslims & their enablers,

and

2) the harmless Muslims,

then it doesn't matter if there exist innumerable numbers of #2. It becomes a theoretical hypothetical exercise, like whether a tree falling in the forest really makes a sound or not.

Our more important priority is to protect ourselves, our loved ones, our families, our fellow citizens, our society. We hardly should be fretting anxiously about whether or not we are deemed "racist" by a people whose hearts and minds are deformed by a mediocre ideological fashion (Western PC MCs), much less by a people whose hearts and minds are deformed by a darker, more twisted ideology (all Muslims).

Dear Rich: the more exposure that this video of vandalism by Ms Eltahawy gets, the better for society. The majority of the Americans are getting close to "tipping point" with regard to Islamists and their far leftists partners. When this will happens, I'm not sure, but there will a ground swell support for free speech againt Islam and its theology of subjugation, intimidation and murder.

Eltahawy and leftist tools **immediately ** took ''the savage'' as referring to muslims as a whole. Telling !

It's called synecdoche (or, less hifalutin'ly, inference or deduction).

Yes, I know.

We seem to be somewhat at cross-purposes here; I actually agree with you that we non-muslims, and the West as a whole, cannot afford to assume that most muslims mean us no harm. Sudden Jihad Syndrome is indeed a reality.

What I meant was, by taking ''the savage'' as referring to muslims as a whole, Eltahawy and the leftist tools are, ipso facto, assuming that **muslims are in fact savage**.

Dear me. That's the second time I've had to explain a comment. If my powers of logical construction can be so easily misconstrued, I clearly need a refresher course !

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DEFEAT AMERICA!

What I meant was, by taking ''the savage'' as referring to muslims as a whole, Eltahawy and the leftist tools are, ipso facto, assuming that **muslims are in fact savage**.

No, they are assuming that we mean that.

My point is that we should mean that, and stop pretending we don't.

A mountain of data sits below us, on Jihad Watch, going back to 2003, that would lead any reasonable person to that conclusion.

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