New mainstream media tactic: ignore responses from counter-jihadists, then claim they didn't respond

Over the years at Jihad Watch I've exposed many "journalists" who are in the tank for Islamic supremacists, including Niraj Warikoo, Michael Kruse, Kari Huus, and many, many others -- but this latest tactic to abet the defamation of counter jihadists is something new. "SI Advance Lies to Readers to Advance Hamas: Maura Grunlund Was Unavailable for Comment," by Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs, September 22:

It has become a pattern in the mainstream media: if they don't like what I say, if it makes too much sense for them or they can't spin it in a negative enough light, they pretend I didn't say it at all. Edith Honan of Reuters did the same thing recently.

Yesterday Maura Grunlund of the Staten Island Advance sent me this email:

Dear Pamela: Will the “savage” ads be appearing on Staten Island? Is it true that you opposed the proposed MAS center in Midland Beach on Staten Island? What response do you have to the following comments by Hesham El-Meligy of Staten Island?
 


This is the same fascist group that sabotaged the Midland Beach Mosque process. 

The 2 partners/founders of that fascist hate group are Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer who on June 6, 201 organized a rally at Ground Zero against the Park 51 Community Center that was attended by all text book nut cases.  Two extremist Egyptian Christians attended to support and film the rally, but were almost killed by the crowd thinking they are Muslims because of the way they looked and spoke.  Three days later, they bussed in large numbers to attend and sabotage the Midland Beach Civic Association Meeting that was designed to allow the community to meet the people of MAS and get to know them.  Long before the meeting, this fascist group bombarded the area with flyers and emails containing all kinds of islamophobic material, such as the last thing the terrorist said before striking the twin towers was Allah Akbar.  That flyer had an image of the burning twin towers.  They had established relations with some of the most hateful from the area who were manning the microphone that night and allowed Robert Spencer to be the first one to ask questions and he took 10 full minutes.  Robert Spencer does not in New York State, let alone NYC.  I saw him with Pamela Geller and Frank Santarpia (the head of the Staten Island Tea Party) after the meeting was ended as if they were cheering each other on a job well done.

I sent her back this answer yesterday:

Dear Pamela: Will the “savage” ads be appearing on Staten Island?

We plan to roll them out everywhere we can.

Is it true that you opposed the proposed MAS center in Midland Beach on Staten Island?

Yes. The MAS is a Muslim Brotherhood entity. The Brotherhood is dedicated in its own words, according to a captured internal document, to "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house."

What response do you have to the following comments by Hesham El-Meligy of Staten Island?

Smears and defamation. It's "fascist" now to stand against the murders of innocent civilians, and to defend the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law?

But in the story below, Maura Grunlund writes: "Ms. Geller, who didn't respond to a request for comment..."

So I sent this to her a short while ago:

"Ms. Geller, who didn't respond to a request for comment,"
Below is the my email responded to your request for comment 9/21/12.
You lied. Does your editor know you are deceiving your readers? Why wouldn't you publish my response? You should lose your press credentials. 
Your answer will be published.

Maura Grunlund's email is mauragrunlund@siadvance.com. The paper's contact link is http://www.statenislandadvance.com/index.html. Write to both and let them know what you think of their style of "journalism": ignoring responses from people they don't like and advancing Hamas' agenda.

Staten Island spokespersons respond to 'Savage' anti-Muslim ads scheduled to appear in subway stations Maura Grunlund, Staten Island Advance, September 22

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- "Savage" anti-Jihad ads are bringing the politics of religion in the Middle East and North Africa speeding into New York City faster than the subway trains on which they'll be seen, starting Monday.

The ads are sponsored by Pamela Geller, an anti-Muslim blogger (Atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com) who opposed the Muslim American Society (MAS) in its unsuccessful attempt to open a center in Midland Beach -- although the MAS ultimately established its current location in Dongan Hills.

Note again the savage defamation of the term "anti-Muslim." This is tantamount to painting a target on my back, and Maura Grunlund knows it. My work is not anti- any group of people, and to portray it as such is to serve the Islamic supremacist propaganda agenda of portraying it as "racist." What race is jihad terror against innocent civilians? My work is in defense of freedom of speech, freedom of conscience and equality of rights for all against a violent and repressive ideology that denies all three. Muslims as well as non-Muslims would benefit if free societies prevail over the Islamic supremacist imperative to impose Sharia.

Ms. Geller also was one of the people who protested passionately against the Park51 Community Center and Muslim prayer space now located near the 9/11 World Trade Center site in Manhattan.

The protest was never against a "Muslim prayer space" being "located near the 9/11 World Trade Center site." The protest was against a multistory triumphal mosque being built at Ground Zero. And we stopped it; it has not been built. If the Islamic supremacists start to build it, we will be there.

Meanwhile, Ms. Geller's infamous "savage" ads that are headed to New York City have sparked widespread controversy for their use on public transit in San Francisco, Calif. Ms. Geller also has filed suit to post the ads in the public transit system in Washington, D.C.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority initially refused to run Geller's ad but has no choice because U.S. District Court Judge Paul Engelmayer ruled that is protected speech under the First Amendment, according to the Associated Press.

As a result, Ms. Geller reportedly plans to post ads with the following statements in 10 New York City subway stations: "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad."

"We recognize the freedom of speech, and her right to be a bigot and racist, but we also recognize the responsibility of New Yorkers to denounce that bigotry," said Awad, referring to the ads.

Ms. Geller, who didn't respond to a request for comment, alleges on her blog that CAIR is connected to HAMAS and the Muslim Brotherhood. She points to CAIR's status as an unindicted co-conspirator in a U.S. Department of Justice prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development where five former foundation leaders were convicted in 2008 of funneling millions of dollars to HAMAS.

Awad described Ms. Geller's comments about CAIR as "arguably one of the most poorly thought-out conspiracy theories of the year.

"Geller has invested her time and energy into resuscitating attention on CAIR as an unindicted co-conspirator, an issue that has already been settled by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals and the Department of Justice in CAIR's favor."

Awad is lying. Actually, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals did not remove the unindicted co-conspirator designation. It just said that it shouldn't have been made public. This has been public knowledge for almost two years; why couldn't Maura Grunlund find it? And why doesn't she mention any of this? According to Robert Spencer, "CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups....Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror, and...CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements....CAIR’s California chapter distributed posters telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI."

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"GALLUP: 60% OF AMERICANS DON'T TRUST MAINSTREAM MEDIA"

[Excerpt]:-

"They" [Mass Media] "may ignore the news that the events in Libya were a terrorist attack rather than a riot, for example, but the information will still get out. They may try to ignore the economic slowdown, but people still feel the results. The media can no longer control information. As a result, rather than gatekeepers, they have become active participants in the political battles. Their liberal partisan bias is now obvious to everyone."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/21/gallup-60-of-americans-dont-trust-mainstream-media


Maura Grunlund is an un-American COWARD and a dangerous dhimmi fool-tool; and a liar, on top of it. She needs to quit journalism and leave it to those courageous enough to offer the truth about islam and company--like Robert and Pamela. Oh, and she ought to buy a one-way ticket to some islamic hellhole where she can cozy up with Hamas in person, and then report back to us. But of course she won't because she's too chicken ...BaaGaa!!!!

Staten Island Advance? The paper should be called the Staten Island Retreat!

Clowns!

Not all Leftists are hypocrites,check out this VIDEO DOCUMENTARY"No Excuse for Terror":

"Documentary about the Double-Standards of Many Leftists,not All,regarding the Palestinian Terrorists and Suicide Bombers"


http://www.antisharia.com/2011/06/11/documentary-about-the-double-standards-of-many-leftistsnot-allregarding-the-palestinian-terrorists-and-suicide-bombers/

AND ALSO

"Rabbi Shmuley Boteach and Michael Brown(believer in Jesus),both Jewish,in Sid Roth’s (a Jewish believer in Jesus)Program “It’s Supernatural”"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/08/07/rabbi-shmuley-boteach-and-michael-brownbeliever-in-jesusboth-jewishin-sid-roths-a-jewish-believer-in-jesusprogram-its-supernatural/

This is what you can expect from journalists nowadays because journalism went from the traditional approach of asking those five key questions---who, what, when, where and why---to assuming journalism is about changing the world (talk about thinly disguised narcissism).

Just as the modern colleges of education as well as law schools are a waste of time (I write from experience respecting both here as I have been accredited to teach in public schools and I am a lawyer and thus I can assure everyone that colleges of education and law schools are almost entirely worthless), so are the schools of journalism nothing more than propaganda institutions serving no good purpose and certainly not the truth. The state of the Western media today is so pathetic, so stupid, so objectionable across the board, that words fail me most times to describe just how far real journalism has descended into a caricature of itself.

New mainstream media tactic: ignore responses from counter-jihadists, then claim they didn't respond
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Appalling. This is *not* journalism.

More:

More:

What response do you have to the following comments by Hesham El-Meligy of Staten Island?

Smears and defamation. It's "fascist" now to stand against the murders of innocent civilians, and to defend the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law?
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Bravo, Ms. Geller! Of course, no one much beyond the readers at Atlas Shrugs and Jihad Watch are seeing her response, due to Grunlund's meretriciousness.

More:

STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- "Savage" anti-Jihad ads are bringing the politics of religion in the Middle East and North Africa speeding into New York City faster than the subway trains on which they'll be seen, starting Monday.
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What *absolute crap*. Jihadists brought the "politics of religion in the Middle East and North Africa" into New York City themselves: first in 1993, with the first World Trade Center bombing; then—even more horrifically—on 9/11.

And they brought it in on hijacked passenger planes—those jets were considerably faster than any subway train...

Thank you so much, dear Robert, for your work.
Here is my respone and i'll be glad if you can publish it.

The religion of peace and tolerance threatens, "The next war (on Israel) will be a war of extinction" (Islamic republic of Iran).
Someone once asked an elderly Holocaust survivor, “What was the important lesson you have learned from the Holocaust?” The old man paused and weakly, barely audibly, said, "If someone threatens you, believe him."
And I have been wondering about the day after. Will the United States establish Holocaust Museum number 2, as in the Hollywood style of sequels? Will someone establish an institution like the institute of Shimon Wiesenthal for persecution of Holocaust criminals? Will schools all around the world send students to Jerusalem or Tel Aviv to march in silence and place flowers in the remains of Rabin Square in remembrance of the Holocaust victims? Will people write books full of Holocaust number 2 denials? Will hypocritical countries shed crocodile tears and say, "we're so sorry and shocked" without meaning a word? Will they scratch their heads, thinking how they could have prevented the extinction of the Jewish people, out of fear they are next in line? Will self-hating Jewish Lefties of future generations in the United States, like Dr. Norman Finkelstein, Professor Noam Chomsky, and Rabbi Lerner, say that the Holocaust was not as bad as the Jews say it was and that they only want to collect profits from the Holocaust number 2 industry? And I, just like this old Holocaust survivor and just like my father, who had lost his entire family to the first Holocaust and who had barely survived only to die of a broken heart at the of age 52, also feel that when someone threatens my existence, I believe him.

I will be thankful and appreciative if you could publish and spread these words and message wherever you can.

Sarit from Israel.

Look, guys, journalism was NEVER objective. That myth arose when there was a small group of near-official information gatekeepers back before information technology exploded.

Modern journalism is the child of the invention of printing. It has always been a way of getting one's point of view out. The issue of "freedom of the press" arose because English Puritans were prolific pamphleteers during the era leading up to the Commonwealth, and called for it as an extension of the rights of freeborn Englishmen when the Stewart monarchs tried to curtail their activities. Move on down to Daniel Defoe (a journalist, as well as an author of fiction), who was an unabashed Whig, and others who went into journalism to support the Tory cause. The same thing was happening on the continent. Never forget that even Karl Marx anad Lev Bronshtain (Trotsky) were journalists before they were theorists. And, of course, there was William Randolph Hearst and his jingoistic "yellow journalism".

Getting back to the era of four American networks and a handful of Newspapers of Record (of which the New York TImes was chief), one reason why the MSM is not trusted and why the net has been so eagerly embraced (especially by a lot of us here) is that a lot of people in the know realized that the MSM was indeed biased, and dominated by a handful of editors, movers, and shakers generally sympathetic to Roosevelt's New Deal, Johnson's Great Society, and open to positions further Left.

If we on the Right want to be heard, let's stop cursing the MSM and do our own journalism--as our blog host is doing.

Well, Kepha, no human endeavor can really be objective, historical writing for instance, but one can strive for as much objectivity as possible, kinda' like striving for a more perfect union while knowing full well that perfection isn't possible. But there isn't even striving anymore in the journalistic field. It's as though complete subjectivity has become the norm. No question in my mind that journalism has gotten so bad in the last twenty years or so that it has now become a caricature of itself (e.g., The New York Times) which it wasn't before. I suppose it's a matter of degree. As for cursing the MSM, I can't stop doing so----it's too enjoyable to give up something like this. I like cursing out the bastards now and again, though I agree with you that engaging in one's own journalism is a worthy endeavor.

Wellington, it's also what's going to sell. I recall when I left the Foreign Service back in the mid-'90's, I walked out of that big blocky building in Washington where people knew of a multi-state war in Central Africa, I myself had dutifully reported on dissidence in China (including Uighur nationalism and Islamic militancy), and found that Slime, Newspeak, and Useless news and Worthless Report were writing about Madonna's cup size or some other triviality.

However, I'll stick by my belief that "journalistic objectivity" was a myth hatched in the days when we basically had a cartel telling the American public what it was allowed to know.

''It's as though complete subjectivity has become the norm.''

Absolutely. Although I think this Grunland woman has fallen even further, into out and out *lying* about the fact that Ms. Geller *did* respond to her e-mail.

I've just sent her a trenchant e-mail calling her a liar, and I hope all the regulars at JW will do the same. She has no shame, of course, but creatures like that need to be shown that their lying doesn't fool everyone.

Wellington wrote:

Well, Kepha, no human endeavor can really be objective, historical writing for instance, but one can strive for as much objectivity as possible, kinda' like striving for a more perfect union while knowing full well that perfection isn't possible. But there isn't even striving anymore in the journalistic field.
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I may actually have witnessed the early days of this, Wellington. When I was at university, I worked on quite a number of student publications, usually as graphics editor.

I was stunned how often I ran into the attitude—not rueful, mind you, but quite aggressive and in-your-face—that since no one could be completely objective, that is was better to be openly biased, and *even to suppress information or lie outright* if it got your message across.

And I'm not talking about Op-Ed, where presenting opinions is quite appropriate, but in the news itself.

I was completely appalled by this, and argued against to the best of my abilities at the time. I was lucky that none of my actual editors had this attitude.

But it soon became plain to me that these were not the opinions of one or two nuts, but a quite common stance.

This was in the late '70s and early '80s—I believe this attitude has become more widespread and mainstream since then.

I'm coming in late, here, but since the topic of journalism has been raised, for the benefit of anyone somewhat younger, who will not know their names, and who may google their way in here in future, I will mention two American journalists who were truly worthy of the name.

They had both courage and integrity.

One is John Roy Carlson (note: this was a pseudonym adopted for protection during 'undercover' work which exposed Nazi sympathisers and, later, Communist plotters; and when he did some seriously dangerous observing-and-recording in the Middle East in 1947-48; he was in fact of Armenian Christian descent). He wrote three books that are must-reads: 'Under Cover', on Nazi networks in the USA prior to the US entry into WWII; 'Cairo to Damascus' (1951); and 'The Plotters' (on communist networks and sympathizers).

'Cairo to Damascus' is a classic. And eerily prescient. Posing as an American Islamophile and as someone who had supported Fascism, Carlson managed to infiltrate jihadist circles in Egypt, and observed the Arab Muslim jihad against nascent Israel. He even managed - in Cairo - to score an interview with Hassan al-Banna, one of the main gang bosses of the Ikhwan, the Muslim Brotherhood. He devotes a whole chapter to the Brotherhood; a chapter which, if Americans had taken it seriously - remember, his book was published in **1951** - might have averted much grief. That chapter is totally relevant today, as fresh as when it was first published. See Chapter IV - 'The Moslem (Black) Brotherhood' and Chapter VI, 'World of the Koran: Islam Ueber Alles'.

It may even be readable online, these days (I haven't looked, because I own a paper copy).


And then there is Martha Gellhorn.

Her definitive article appeared in the Atlantic Monthly in 1961: "The Arabs of Palestine".

She went to Jordan, Israel, Gaza and Lebanon, interviewing - with a firm grip on her commonsense - the 'Palestinian' Arab refugees, mostly Muslim. In so doing, she had to coin the term 'madhattery', which she invented in order to describe the sheer mind-bending nonsense to which she was so often treated by her Arab Mohammedan interviewees.

If you have never heard of her, and if you have never read this article: do. Here's a couple of links.


http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/the-arabs-of-palestine/4203/
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/196110/gellhorn
October 1961 – Atlantic Monthly

Copy it, and print it off, keep it and read it.


Martha Gellhorn continued to report on matters middle eastern; it may be worthwhile tracking down what she wrote about the aftermath of the Six Day War in 1967, for example.

I found this in a biography of Gellhorn - 'Martha Gellhorn: A Life' - written by one Caroline Moorehead who simply cannot comprehend Gellhorn's clearheaded refusal to espouse and promote the cause of the Pooooor 'Palestinians' (tm) and accuses her of racism, propagandising, etc. - all because she insisted on continuing to report accurately on the jihad against the Jews whilst most western journalists were obediently parroting the Arab Narrative.

From that biography:

'In 1967…Martha returned to Israel…She arrived as the Six Day War against Egypt, Jordan and Syria was ending. The Arab forces were broken and the Israelis were now in possession of the Golan Heights, the western bank of the Jordan River, the town of Kuneitra and a strip of Syria, having crossed the Sinai and reached the Suez canal. Martha stayed for just over a month and wrote articles for the Guardian, the Nation, Commonweal and American Vogue.' (Somebody! track those down! I think they would be well worth reading, today).

More:

p. 426 –
“Martha had good friends in the Israeli army, including Moshe Dayan, newly appointed Minister of Defence, who was a great admirer of James Gavin. Soon, she was given a car, driver and conducting officer to take her into the Sinai to see the remains of war.

‘They passed burned out tanks, guns, spent shells, lorries with blindfolded prisoners. “Fiercest smell on earth: human dead”, Martha wrote in her notebook, with her usual blend of work and personal observations. “Sorrow and disgust…There is no swank, no crowing. No Israelis are drunk, no looting, no raping of women…I know Israelis will not torture”…

She went on, “Atrocities: 7 Israeli pilots hung, 1 thrown to crowd, killed with spades, 2 pilots decapitated in Smyrna, heads shown on TV, girl teletypist, breasts cut off, etc. Made me sick.” The next day, she returned to the atrocities: ‘6 Arabs caught last night with hand grenades at the Wailing Wall. Got shot at once. Jews are too lenient – will do them no good…Least violent people anywhere”.

Gellhorn was a journalist worthy of the name.

Let any aspiring journalism student track down, and read, the articles and/ or books of Carlson and Gellhorn and then tell themselves: *that* is what my profession should be.

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