Pakistan: Christians warned to "convert to Islam or leave Muslim neighborhood"

Will the Islamophobia never end? "'Convert to Islam or leave Muslim neighborhood' warning to Christians in Lahore," from the Pakistan Christian Post, August 31 (thanks to Lachlan):

Lahore: August 31, 2012. (PCP) A story of fear and blasphemy is in making in one of the Muslim majority area of Lahore like Mehrabad, a slum of Islamabad from where 600 hundred Christian families fled from home after Muslim mob attack after arrests of minor disabled Christian girl under blasphemy charges.

The venue of new horror and fear is reported by Christians via e-mails and SMS by Christian residents of LDA, Walton Road, Lahore, where Muslims sprayed bullets on homes of Christians on night of August 30, 2012, issuing warning “Convert to Islam or leave this neighborhood”. Today on August 31, 2012, Muslims are gathered in hundreds around Christian’s homes and chanting slogans “Naara-e-Takbeer” which is used by Jihadists before attack to kill.

Rev. Dr. Jamil Nasir of Church Of Pentecost Lahore Pakistan, resident of same locality of Walton Road Lahore, says “It happened two nights ago when I was at a meeting and my family was alone at home. Some Maulvis (Islamic Clerics) came to my house and started banging and kicking the door. They wanted to meet me. My family was very scared and my children were crying and praying inside. They left and came back again. One of them said to me, “I want to become Christian". I said, “I do not make anybody Christian". The other one said "I was a Muslim and now I have become Christian, I need your help". I understood the situation and knew that they were trying to harass me. So I did not answer them. They threatened me when they left

It all started when a Muslim man named Ahmed Bhatti who owns a butcher shop next to the place where we hold our tent Church started a madrasah on his property. He started Melad (Islamic verses singing) there.

Last Sunday when Church service was over, more than dozen Muslim criminals gathered in front of Church and started harassing Christian girls who were leaving after services.

Ahmed Bhatti and Muslim home owners of area ordered their Christians tenants to convert to Islam otherwise vacate their properties. They have vacated some shops that were run by Christians. One Christian man had his Gospel music on in the shop; they beat him up and kicked him out from that shop on gunpoint.

Ahmed Bhatti on his microphone was shouting, " I am giving Christians this invitation to convert to Islam otherwise they will face consequences" while announcement was made gathering of Muslims were raising Islamic Slogans.

Rev. Dr. Jamil said “We called the Police who came but left after few hours”. The Christian community is contacting their leaders for intervention and support for their safety and security.

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Bu... bu... but remember kids, it's all about the made up, non-existent "islamophobia"!.

>invitation to convert to Islam otherwise they will face consequences"
>invitation

Remember kids, murderous threats in Islam means "invitation".

It just might be time for the world to break in two:

dar-al-Islam and dar-al-peace.

Once done, no one from dar-al-islam can ever enter dar-al-peace. Those from dar-al-peace who have a burning desire to convert to Islam will have to take a one-way trip to dar-al-islam. If they later regret their decision, tough luck.

Like it or not, we are heading that way.

Even our "liberation" of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and now the attempt to liberate Syria from tyranny, has quite predictably led to the expulsion of Christians.

One can view our meddling in the ME, as a means to separate the non-Muslim world from the Muslims one.

The only problem is the dar alIslam in the West.

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
Before too long, EVERYWHERE will be Pakistan.
Allah Akhbar!!!!!!

This is an example of base Islam at work. A replication of the way, it started 1400 years ago. The use if intimidation and fear justified by a distorted religious duty. The participants aren't seeking converts to Islam, they're seeking to take, someone elses belongings. The clerics, the immams, the state, thugs, every one of them.

Don't be fooled like most, "muslims included" to think that Islam started because of devine intervention. It was started by man, for man, as a means to gain, wealth, power and influence.

Islam, corrupts it's sincerest followers, as it did then and as it is doing it today.

I had to ask myself why the Muslim thugs and rioters acted the way they acted. After all, the Christians in Pakistan are nothing if not quiet and unobtrusive. Why the huge rage against them?

And it struck me. The Muslims are insanely envious of the Christians. Even though the Christians in Pakistan are persecuted, looked down upon, discriminated against at every opportunity by the government and Muslim Pakistanis, the Pakistani Christians are still far freer and better off than the average Muslim there.

The Christians have normal, loving relationships with their mothers, sisters and daughters. The Muslim males in a family, deprived of normal relations with females and deeply ignorant of anything concerning females, still has to pretend to be the leader or the household women.

The Christians have the freedom to choose their religious beliefs. They may become Hindus, Buddhists, or another branch of Christianity. For a better objective situation, they may become Muslims. The Muslim knows that if he breaths a word of doubt concerning his religion, he will be targeted for death by his family, his village and neighbors, and by the government. Furthermore, the Muslim has very little discretion on his practice of religion. He can be a fanatic, or he can be targeted by fanatics.

The Christians simply don't have the threat of death hanging over them should they decide to act like decent human beings. Granted, they are regularly targeted by Muslims, but it's a random occurrence, like being struck by lightening, with no more theological significance.

Thus, regardless of the fact that Christians in Pakistan are often kept in poverty, as human beings, they are far freer than their Muslim oppressors. The Muslim Morlocks, without hope of any change in their world view or social or moral environment, strike out in the only way they know: blind fury.

RonaldB

I'm certain there,s truth in what you have stated, however, I'm not completely convinced that it's not hopelessness manifesting itself as blind fury. It's clear to me, that this particular rampage and others like it, are oganized and incited for gain.

Domenick

I would hazard the guess that you and Ronald are both right.

Islam sanctifies and commands all of mankind's basest desires - the desire to dominate and destroy without moral limit, the desire to rape, to bully the helpless, the desire to take whatever is desired without asking or paying, the desire to **hurt** for fun. All of these base desires can be indulged without limit so long as the victim is a female (even Muslim females are, essentially, suspected and feared and viewed as actual or potential enemies to the Mohammedan male; no amount of Total Submission will ever satisfy him and anything short of it can be and often is viewed as Rebellion, meriting Punishment as per 4: 34), or a non-Muslim.

And if a Mohammedan male or female conceives a grudge against another Mohammedan then a charge of 'apostasy' or 'blasphemy' or 'fitna!' or 'zina!' or anything else that can be trumped up and screeched sufficiently loudly for the Mob to hear, usually suffices to annihilate the hated one.

This does, however, cut both ways. No-one (even the woman or man who has successfully destroyed a fellow Mohammedan on the pretext of their having breached sharia in some way, or destroyed first and claimed the pretext afterward in order to get off scot free) can ever be *quite* sharia-compliant enough, themselves, to be sure of being 'safe' from meeting the same end.

In particular, no Muslim woman and no dhimmi can *ever* be *quite* submissive enough, nor ever compliant enough with all the myriad mean and petty rules that sharia lays out to facilitate and ensure their humiliation and degradation and dehumanisation, to be sure of being 'safe' from a Mohammedan who feels like hurting and killing somebody.

Muslims to Christians: “Convert to Islam or leave this neighborhood”.

They are not saying, 'Convert to Islam, or we will kill you'...yet.

But that is the other choice Muslims have, on many historically recorded occasiions, given to non-Muslims of every background - Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Confucian and Taoist and animist.

Joseph Schacht summed up the fundamental paradigm in his book 'An Introduction to Islamic Law': "The Islamic attitude towards unbelievers is the law of war: they must be converted, or subjugated, or killed".

Being driven out - and usually, being forced to leave behind everything you possess, to be gleefully seized upon and either devoured or destroyed by Mohammedan thieves - is not stated in the classic list of options, but seems historically to have happened quite a bit.


By the way, one may note that when Muslims cry 'persecution!' they constantly use the trope of of being 'driven out' from 'our homes', it should be seen as first and foremost an instance of what psychologists call projection; because it is *Muslims* who, historically, in many places and times, in suburbs, districts, provinces, and whole nation-states, have mercilessly killed and bullied and robbed and driven people out from ancestral home and land by the thousands upon the thousands; those Armenian Christian who were not mass-murdered were driven out and their goods and homes and lands seized by greedy Muslims; Sudanese Christians are being driven out of the North; and the Jews in a swathe of country in an arc from Algeria in the west to Afghanistan in the East were mercilessly driven out, in the late 19th century right on through to the 1970s, and these were Jewish communities whose presence, in all the places where they were found, predated the arrival of Islam sometimes by up to a thousand years or more. The Hindu Pandits have been driven out of Kashmir by monstrous Mohammedan behaviour toward them; yet Hinduism predates Islam in Kashmir by millennia.

And it must be borne in mind that in their megalomaniacal malignant narcissism, Mohammedans are taught to believe that everything in the world - including the persons and property of all seven billion non-Muslims currently alive on the face of the earth - is rightfully theirs, theirs for the taking, by force or by fraud, as occasion and opportunity permit.

If all the Christians and Hindus and Sikhs flee from Pakistan to India and the West, it does not mean that they will be permanently safe from Jihad. They would only be safe if India and the West slammed the door shut against all further Mohammedan immigration legal or illegal, and began to remove from their soil the Mohammedans who already , within India, and within the West, are busy creating Muslim-only Muslim-ruled zones that they (the Muslims) fully intend, if they are not stopped, to expand and expand and expand until there is not one inch of turf left in which a non-Muslim can live free of the fear of Muslim violence and lies.

Muslims in Australia have been doing their best to drive out of one suburb of Sydney - by a continuous campaign of vandalism and threats - the Shri Mandir Hindu temple that was built well before Muslims arrived en masse in that particular suburb. Turkish Muslims in Australia vandalised - in a very nasty and threatening way - a memorial that was built to honour the many Assyrian Christians who were mass-murdered by Muslims at the same time as the Armenians were being murdered (the Muslims, within Australia, had screamed and yelled and done their darnedest to prevent any such memorial from being built, in the first place).

Wherever they are, the moment they feel strong enough, the Mohammedans will begin attacking the circumambient non-Muslims and pushing them around; they will push them out or even, if they think they can get away with it, destroy them.

"Ahmed Bhatti on his microphone was shouting, " I am giving Christians this invitation to convert to Islam otherwise they will face consequences" while announcement was made gathering of Muslims were raising Islamic Slogans."

These warnings should not be taken lightly. The consequences could very well be death as called for in the Koran. In time the non-Islamic world will feel the wrath of Sharia Law. It is their only goal, and life time ideology.

Islam doesn't care what the non-Islamic world says, thinks, or wants, their will be no forgiveness, or amnasty. NONE.....

The BBC News is reporting to day that the mentally retarded Christian girl arrested for desecrating the Quran was fitted up by a local Imam who placed the torn pages of the Quran in the girl's bag. THe BBC reports the imam has been arrested.

Pakistan: Christians warned to "convert to Islam or leave Muslim neighborhood"
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Funny how that whole "no compulsion in religion" thing is far more honored in the breach than the observance.

More:

Lahore: August 31, 2012. (PCP) A story of fear and blasphemy is in making in one of the Muslim majority area of Lahore like Mehrabad, a slum of Islamabad from where 600 hundred Christian families fled from home after Muslim mob attack after arrests of minor disabled Christian girl under blasphemy charges.
...........................

Will these Muslims apologize to their Christian neighbors once they learn that it was an Imam who trumped up these charges against the little Down Syndrome child? I wouldn't count on it...

"Pakistan: Muslim cleric framed 11-year-old Christian girl for blasphemy charge by planting pages of Qur'an among papers she burned"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/pakistan-imam-arrested-for-planting-pages-of-quran-among-papers-burnt-by-11-year-old-downs-syndrome.html

Indeed, why should they? Even were it true that a developmentally-disabled child burnt a few pages of the Qur'an, this pogrom against the Christian community would be vicious and insane.

Incidentally, expulsion of Christians was the Imam's motive, as well, as he wants to drive the Christian families who live near his Mosque out.

More:

The venue of new horror and fear is reported by Christians via e-mails and SMS by Christian residents of LDA, Walton Road, Lahore, where Muslims sprayed bullets on homes of Christians on night of August 30, 2012, issuing warning “Convert to Islam or leave this neighborhood”. Today on August 31, 2012, Muslims are gathered in hundreds around Christian’s homes and chanting slogans “Naara-e-Takbeer” which is used by Jihadists before attack to kill.
...........................

The threat of violence—including murder—is never far below the surface of these threats.

More:

Rev. Dr. Jamil Nasir of Church Of Pentecost Lahore Pakistan, resident of same locality of Walton Road Lahore, says “It happened two nights ago when I was at a meeting and my family was alone at home. Some Maulvis (Islamic Clerics) came to my house and started banging and kicking the door. They wanted to meet me. My family was very scared and my children were crying and praying inside. They left and came back again. One of them said to me, “I want to become Christian". I said, “I do not make anybody Christian". The other one said "I was a Muslim and now I have become Christian, I need your help". I understood the situation and knew that they were trying to harass me. So I did not answer them. They threatened me when they left”
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For one thing, notice that these are *Muslim clerics*, not "misunderstanders of Islam".

Also, notice that they were trying to Reverend Nasir into proselytizing Muslims, so that they could accuse him of this.

When that didn't work, they just switched tactics.

More:

It all started when a Muslim man named Ahmed Bhatti who owns a butcher shop next to the place where we hold our tent Church started a madrasah on his property. He started Melad (Islamic verses singing) there.
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*How common is this*? A Muslim will start a Mosque or a Madrassah right next to a non-Muslim place of worship, and then claim that the Infidels are interfering with Muslim worship...

Also, a butcher will have had plenty of practice with pious throat-cutting, a fact that I'm sure the local Christians are all too aware of.

More:

Last Sunday when Church service was over, more than dozen Muslim criminals gathered in front of Church and started harassing Christian girls who were leaving after services.
...........................

This serves three purposes, all interrelated: it allows vicious Muslim males to threaten and harass girls, a favorite Muslim passtime; it terrifies the victims and their loved ones, and implies further horrors, such as kidnap, rape, and forced conversion; and it "humiliates" Infidel men, who are not in a position to properly protect their wives and children under Muslim oppression.

More:

Ahmed Bhatti and Muslim home owners of area ordered their Christians tenants to convert to Islam otherwise vacate their properties. They have vacated some shops that were run by Christians. One Christian man had his Gospel music on in the shop; they beat him up and kicked him out from that shop on gunpoint.
...........................

Not just Muslim clerics, but Muslim landlords abusing their power.

More:

Ahmed Bhatti on his microphone was shouting, " I am giving Christians this invitation to convert to Islam otherwise they will face consequences" while announcement was made gathering of Muslims were raising Islamic Slogans.
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Always: first the "invitation" to Islam, then the violence...

More:

Rev. Dr. Jamil said “We called the Police who came but left after few hours”. The Christian community is contacting their leaders for intervention and support for their safety and security.
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Also very, very common in Dar-al-Islam, where the police do little to protect threatened infidels from the depredations of their Muslim "neighbors". In fact, in places like Pakistan, the police have actually been know to join in in the violence against the victims.

Go back to history and see how many christianzzz killed muslims :
1.4 M in algeria
200,000 in Bosnia
1M in Iraq (thousands tortured)
....

You are a bunch of hypocritez, blinded with media and hate.


999 out of 1000 humans will end in Hell.
Damned go cry for yourselves.

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