Raymond Ibrahim: Collective Punishment of Egypt's Christian Copts

Over at Coptic Solidarity (via RaymondIbrahim.com), I list several examples of the Islamic principle of collective punishment of dhimmis:

Last month saw Egypt's latest large-scale "collective punishment" of Christian Copts. It started when a Christian launderer accidently burned the shirt of a Muslim customer, which led to a brawl between the two Egyptians (first reported here). The next day "the Muslim, with approximately 20 of his followers, went to the Christian's home to attack him. Expecting this, the Christian was prepared and climbed to the highest point of his roof, hurling Molotov cocktails at the Muslims." One Muslim man was injured and later died in a hospital. Before he died, between 2,000-3,000 Muslims attacked the Christians of the village, leading to an exodus of approximately 120 Coptic families. AINA has details of the aftermath:

The sectarian crisis in the village of Dahshur escalated on August 1 after the burial of the Muslim man who died yesterday in hospital. Hundreds of Muslims torched and looted Coptic businesses and homes despite hundreds of security forces being deployed in the village. Eyewitnesses reported that security forces did not protect most Coptic property... "As 120 families had already fled the village the day before after being terrorized, the businesses and homes were an easy game for the mob to make a complete clean-up of everything that could be looted," said Coptic activist Wagih Jacob. "The security forces were at the scene of the crime while it was taking place and did nothing at all." After the violence, the family of the deceased Moaz Hasab-Allah said that destroying Coptic property is not enough and that Copts have to "pay for their son's death" with lives.

Collectively punishing dhimmis—the barely tolerated non-Muslim infidels indigenous to the lands conquered by Islam—for the crimes of the individual is standard under Islam, and a regular occurrence among Egypt's native Christians. Other examples include:

Jan, 2012: A mob of over 3,000 Muslims attacked Christians in an Alexandrian village because a Muslim accused a Christian of having "intimate photos" of a Muslim woman on his phone. Terrified, the Christian, who denied having such photos, turned himself in to the police. Regardless, Coptic homes and shops were looted and set ablaze. Three Christians were injured, while "terrorized" Christian women and children, rendered homeless, stood in the streets with no place to go. As usual, it took the army an hour to drive 2 kilometers to the village: "This happens every time. They [security] wait outside the village until the Muslims have had enough violence, then they appear." None of the perpetrators were arrested. Later, in an effort to empty the village of its 62 Christian families, Muslims attacked them again, burning more Coptic property. According to police, the Muslim woman concerned has denied the whole story, and no photos were found....

Continue reading for several more examples.

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LemonLime | September 10, 2012 10:43 PM | Reply

Well, at least we can console ourselves with the fact that it's only "radicalists" involved; though we may still scratch our heads and wonder what mosques they attend (for apparently many mosques are peachy keen), and wonder about how "this stuff is still being put into [their heads] from somewhere."

Steffen Larsen | September 10, 2012 10:57 PM | Reply

From Egypt to Pakistan: an incident - often involving complete fabrications - somehow is transformed into a major confrontation. When the smoke has settled, the "Allahu Akbars" have died down and the reconciliation meetings are well under way, the end result is fewer Infidels in the area.

Bamaguje | September 11, 2012 12:34 AM | Reply

But there was no collective punishment of Muslims in America after 9/11.

Softly Bob | September 11, 2012 3:27 AM | Reply

These stories sadden and sicken me. They are just a sample of many examples. It will continue and it will get worse. There's not a lot that we can do about it, short of making sure that the West never becomes like that.

ewha1 | September 11, 2012 4:49 AM | Reply

No, I'm sorry this can't be true. I've been told that once Muslims get the vote they'll become all but indistinguishable from Wisconsin Lutherans, except with suntans and exotic clothes

As happened in Iraq.

An apology is in order.

duh_swami | September 11, 2012 6:26 AM | Reply

Well, it's pretty obvious that these Christians are out of control...When the security forces won't stop their rampages, it falls on local Mahoundians to do it, as a duty to Allah, the 'Prophet', and the community...The Christians are so tough, that mobs of hundreds or thousands may be required to defeat one Christian family...It's hard to hold a good Christian down, so brutal methods are used to keep him down...The basic rule of the mob is to never let a downed Christian back up...Beating them to a pulp is good, but killing them is even better...Now they will have to face Allah, and he will tell them what they did...

Chatillon | September 11, 2012 8:31 AM | Reply

If the United States stands for human rights, then the time is here to demonstrate its devotion to that principle. And if we're worried about repercussions in the Mohammedan world against for daring to stand up against Mohammedan tyranny, it is time to develop policies that will best manage such repercussions. The following policies come to mind:

1) Lower the foreign lobby in Congress
2) Reduce immigration and "refugee" settlement in the US from Mohammedan countries
3) Develop long overdue energy independence
4) Make clear that the only law of the land is American law, based upon and consistent with the US constitution
5) Eliminate aid to Mohammedan countries who do not respect human rights as defined by US standards
6) Eliminate entirely the use of the US military in touchy-feely nation-building exercises
7) Use military force only when clear goals, timelines and carrying costs have been identified
8) Fire or impeach planners who miscalculate with respect to 7)
9) Develop Islamorelistic training programs in the US military, law enforcement agencies, State Department and government levels in general
10) Develop Islamorealstic school courses

gravenimage | September 11, 2012 9:05 AM | Reply

Raymond Ibrahim: Collective Punishment of Egypt's Christian Copts

Collectively punishing dhimmis—the barely tolerated non-Muslim infidels indigenous to the lands conquered by Islam—for the crimes of the individual is standard under Islam, and a regular occurrence among Egypt's native Christians.
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"Collective punishment"—even this phrase—although I fully understand its use here—implies that there is something at base to be "punished".

What we have here is a burned shirt—a not uncommon accident, and one that might happen to any one of us—and a bunch of vicious lies and rumors.

This is simply abuse of a vulnerable minority, and on the slightest pretext.

Things have *always* been bad for the Copts over the past 1400 years, ever since their land was invaded by Muslim barbarians.

Certainly, there have been cases of violence and atrocity chronicled here at Jihad Watch over the past several years.

But expect things to get much, much worse for the Copts in Muslim Brotherhood Egypt.

And how much longer will the West continue to believe—or pretend to believe—that Egypt in the wake of the "Arab Spring" is all about freedom and democracy?

minoria | September 11, 2012 1:11 PM | Reply

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