Relax: Senate overwhelmingly defeats bill to cut aid to Pakistan until release of doctor who helped U.S. find bin Laden

81-10. All 81 of those Senators should be voted out of office at the earliest opportunity. Evidently they think this meretricious jihad state has been a reliable U.S. ally, and that their imprisonment of the man who helped the U.S. find bin Laden is just. This is the kind of insanity that is pandemic in Washington.

"US Senate defeats bill to cut aid to Pakistan," from the Daily Times, September 23:

WASHINGTON: The US Senate overwhelmingly defeated a bill that would have denied American aid to Pakistan until the release of the imprisoned Pakistani doctor who helped CIA to trace Osama bin Laden.

The bill was defeated by 81 to 10 votes. Dr Shakil Afridi was sentenced to 33 years in jail in Pakistan on May 24 under the system of tribal justice for treason over alleged ties to Lashkar-e-Islam and not for working for the CIA, for which the court said it did not have jurisdiction.

Introduced by Senator Rand Paul, the bill also called for cutting all US aid to Libya and Egypt until those who were responsible for attack on American missions in these two countries were arrested and handed over to the US.

Following the defeat of his bill, which was opposed even by senators from his own Republican Party, Senator Rand Paul from Kentucky in a statement vowed to keep this important issue front and centre.

“When nearly 80 percent of Americans believe foreign aid should be reduced, it is inconceivable why their views are ignored by so many in Congress,” he said....

Indeed.

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No aid should be given to Pakistan who spends the money funding terrorist activities in Southern Philippines and Southern Thailand. I'd rather have my tax money go to these countries as aid in fighting the Islamists over there.

Give them the Blind Sheik and some more jizya and all will be well…for about a minute.
Oh and get rid of the “Video” maker and stop saying bad stuff about Islam.

Relax: Senate overwhelmingly defeats bill to cut aid to Pakistan until release of doctor who helped U.S. find bin Laden
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*Shameful*. Is there a roster of the votes? I'd like to thank every brave senator who voted against continued aid to terrorist Pakistan while this doctor is imprisoned.

More:

Introduced by Senator Rand Paul, the bill also called for cutting all US aid to Libya and Egypt until those who were responsible for attack on American missions in these two countries were arrested and handed over to the US.
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Yay Rand Paul! His father is frequently pretty clueless on Islam, but this is solid stuff.

No more jizya. It is a waste of time and money.

Why does this surprise anyone?
After 9/11, with its many many Saudi terrorists, Bush had a personal and close relationship with the Saudi ambassador.
So these senators are just as clueless, confused or plain stupid.
At the expense of quoting traitor Hansen of the FBI, our country/government are like a retarded but powerful child. That bombs the Serbs who were defending their turf but rewards the Pakis with big money.

Eric Allen Bell has gone into hiding because of the number of Muslim death threats against him and his family. But he's not stopping his work. See for example his new website:

http://www.globalinfidel.tv

Bell is a documentary filmmaker and published author of many articles at leftie websites like the Daily Kos. When he became a counterjihadi, the Daily Kos banned him and most of his leftie friends abandoned him. And even as he receives so many death threats from Muslims (in part because some people have falsely linked him with the film Muslims have been rioting over lately) -- in spite of death threats from all over the world, Bell is defiant and refusing to shut up. He deserves support. He might be the only leftie leader of the counterjihad movement. (Though he's lost some of his leftish beliefs since becoming a counterjihadi.)

Thanks for that link, traeh. I wish Eric Allen Bell the best. He's a brave man and for understanding and speaking out about Islam, one of the most hateful and intolerant ideologies of all time, his life is now in danger. Disgusting.

Those 81 senators should listed so we can vote them out.

What a bunch of a**holes. All of these senators can't wait to be slaves of Islam.

Or are they already?

I agree about Rand. Pro second amendment, too. I admire him even more for the stand he took by introducing this bill.

It is naive to imagine that so many senators do not know what Pakistan is up to.

Is it so hard to consider that the US government gives Pakistan aid with the full knowledge that a substantial portion of it would come back to its military industrial complex by way of arms purchases?

After so much public display of anti-American behavior in Pakistan, the 81 senators, I expect, know exactly how trustworthy this ally is. It is much more believable that they simply do not care what Pakistan does with the arms it purchases, so long as some portion of the aid reaches intended pockets.

Where do you suppose the money for such purchases come from?

A tiny whiff of fresh air drifted in the periodic hallowed halls of Government, but, overwhelmed by the mass of hot air, it will be quite some time it appears, before the following reality is occasioned:

From Bosch Fawstin:
"......Washington Islamophiles desperately want to believe that "Islam means peace" because the truth would mean war. Their recognition of the truth would be an acknowledgement that an entire part of the world has been at war with us for decades and that those charged to defend us against this threat have done everything to avoid it and appease it. This enemy will Always remind us that they're at war with us, and sooner or later our government, under pressure from us, is going to finally respond with War. From that point, it will be revealed that the Only power this gutless enemy ever had is the power that our gutless leaders gave it. And this goes for all six of our last presidents, with Obama being the worst among them......."

at http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-enemy-president.html?spref=tw

It is so depressing to see our elected officials fund the islamic jihad against America and the rest of Western Civilization. Our venerable senators are paying jizya so the drone attacks can continue but for every terrorist they target, ten more are waiting in the wings.

I deeply resent my tax money being squandered on the filthy cesspool known as Pakistan, where America is hated and terrorists are heroes. There are so many worthy causes on which to spend millions of dollars; Pakistan is not one of them, nor are Egypt and Libya. Who will repay the borrowed money we are giving to our avowed enemies and what are we getting in return? What a colossal waste!

A tiny whiff of fresh air drifted in the periodic hallowed halls of Government, but, overwhelmed by the mass of hot air, it will be quite some time it appears, before the following reality is occasioned:

From Bosch Fawstin:
"......Washington Islamophiles desperately want to believe that "Islam means peace" because the truth would mean war. Their recognition of the truth would be an acknowledgement that an entire part of the world has been at war with us for decades and that those charged to defend us against this threat have done everything to avoid it and appease it. This enemy will Always remind us that they're at war with us, and sooner or later our government, under pressure from us, is going to finally respond with War. From that point, it will be revealed that the Only power this gutless enemy ever had is the power that our gutless leaders gave it. And this goes for all six of our last presidents, with Obama being the worst among them......."

at http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-enemy-president.html?spref=tw

81-10. All 81 of those Senators should be voted out of office at the earliest opportunity.

LOL, looks like influence of Tea baggers and AIPAC is going away.

MAMA MIA....

It is exactly this sort of events that indicate just how rotten and corrupt the western elite has become, how it has lost it's will to live.

@danny

0/10

Try harder next time.

Also, "tea baggers" tea bag, they don't get tea bagged like you at your usual bacha bazi with your sex slave 'Bejanwaetambi'.

When the Senators realize that Islam's agenda is to subjugate all free people, you'll see a reversal of this figure in the future. It's only a matter of time.

You're still a clown, of course!

CNN 'expert' Peter Bergen said Pakistan was 'totally within its rights to keep this man locked up' because he was engaged in treason.

I guess the same Peter Bergen would loudly oppose locking up all the Paki spies in the U.S. of A. or in the UK.

Western elite or the plutocrats can overcome this problem by letting only one Either son or daughter to serve with the United States Armed Forces for five years and fight any fanatics including the fanatic Muslims.

By the way most fighting men comes from the minus 47% of their list and they are not rotten and corrupt always thinking "buy low...sell high mantra "

Okay... Danny keep it up and when you're done with kindergarten get back to us... no thanks.

I suspect the reason for not cutting off the funding from the republican point of few, would be a fear that our supply lines to our troops in Afghanistan might be cut. That, of course, raises concerns about the shape we are in after 4 years of Obama, that we have to worry at all. This vote shouldn't be needed. The president should be able to just tell them to hand him over. The fact that Obama won't and couldn't if he wanted to, is the scary thing in all of this.

I sympathize w/ Bell, but that's precisely why his refusal to condemn Muslims as a whole earlier this year was a futile exercise then. I'm sure Molly Norris thinks the same.

81 Senators need to be replaced.

A song for 81 Senators:
O say does that moon-spangled banner yet wave,
O'er the land of the dhimmi and the home of the slave?

With the economy in the dumps and states and cities going broke, the logical thing to do is give money to Pakistan and other Islamic despots...Some elements of the US gov are every bit as warped as Islam...Some parts of the US gov 'are' Islam...We didn't vote Islam in, but we can vote it out...That's provided we actually get to vote...

"Evidently they think this meretricious jihad state has been a reliable U.S. ally, and that their imprisonment of the man who helped the U.S. find bin Laden is just....."

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They talk out of both sides of their mouths; uttering platitudes about fighting "terrorism" while at the same time they support and / or appease those who commit acts of terrorism according to what they say is in "American interests." Law makers think it is in America's interests to appease jihadists and jihadist states. They argue it is in America's interests to crreate new terror-states. That's why they talk a good game on Israel (even Mitt Romney talks a good game on Israel) but when it comes down to it, they all support a Muslim-enemy state in Israel. That is what happened at our platform writing committee this past August. Romney surrogate, Senator Jim Talent, fought conservatives for the inclusion of a Palestinian state in Israel in our national party platform which mirrors the Democratic party platform. Politicians do this because they believe it is in America's interests.

That was most useful. Thanks!

When will Americans (general public as well as senators) understand the role of pakistan in anti-American terrorist activities? And money provided by USA itself funds that activity.
A request to all Americans on JW : Write to your senators and request them to deny aid to pakistan, at least the next time it comes up for vote.

Islam's influence on American politics, runs deep. The runner is Grover Norquist. A man whose only allegience is to money. He's not particular in what form of currency it comes in, or what he has to broker, in order to get it.

The more he brokers, the broker we become.

Conclusion
We must get rid of all the senators who voted against or like Rubio who did not vote.Clean up and start fresh Nothing to loose we have already lost everything

The foreign aid to Pakistan is to keep NATO supply lines open. Don't you know that there is no such thing as free lunch?

That's right, relax. The aid is for Pakistan to keep the NATO supply lines open. You should already know by now that there is no such thing as free lunch.

True, but the Pakis need to understand that idea goes both ways.

True, but the Pakis need to understand that idea goes both ways.

1) NATO has no meaningful, achievable strategic goal in Afghanistan.

2) Even if it did, there would be other ways of securing supply lines to NATO that would not require us to pay jizya to our enemies (and, as a side effect, indirectly fund the Taliban). (I.e., military means.) This whole thing is a farce.

It's nice to be able to say that Rand Paul IS a BETTER MAN than his father.

You are correct, the terrorist state of Porkiestan knows how to wring money from the USA, they have been doing this for decades. just watch, after the USA Afghanistan, they will become busom buddies with China and play them against us.
And you wonder why many Indians don't trust the US government, They see time and time again the USA ignore the jihad against them and other countries as they vote to give Porkiestan more and more money every year.

I hope we don't need any more help finding terrorists because the U.S. Senate just provided the incentive NOT to help the USA. Great job!! You should all be very proud of yourselves. This will ensure that even those that stand against the terrorists will remain quiet.

Do these traitor senators get paid by some of this aid so they can help to get our citizens killed all over including in the USA? When the government of a nation starts working against its citizens a civil war is very much a possibility. This treason of our own people with our own taxpayers' money is going on for a long time now. If Obama is not gone in November, we are in BIG trouble. Pray hard and vote OBAMA out. Please!!!!!!!

...there would be other ways of securing supply lines to NATO that would not require us to pay jizya to our enemies ...(I.e., military means.)

Absolutely. No-fly zone has been tried and worked before.

This whole thing is a farce.

The entire US policy vis a vis the moslem world is a farce. A deadly farce that will continue as long as the US is governed by traitors and dunces.

I agree. After the Paki elite take their cut, the aid money comes back to the US via arms purchases. Our elected reps don't want to upset their masters in the defense industry, so this kind of vote should not surprise.

How did John "The Interventionist" McCain vote?

The argument about Pakistan stoping supplies reaching Afghanistan could well be true. The sooner we withdraw from this god forsaken hole the better. It would be interesting to know what reasoning persuaded the 81 to vote the way they did...... and will aid to Pakistan be cut-off after 2014 ???

"I sympathize w/ Bell, but that's precisely why his refusal to condemn Muslims as a whole earlier this year was a futile exercise then. I'm sure Molly Norris thinks the same."

Another way to put it: a cruel irony. And it also yet again, for the umpteenth time, tends to verify the point I've been making for years: taking anxious care to say "I'm not attacking all Muslims" apparently does not do its intended job -- neither with the PC MCs such a phrase would cringingly kowtow to, who continue blithely to vilify the cringing Islamophobe; nor with the Muslims one hopes will minimize their lethal hatred.

So if such asymptotic assurances don't work, why do so many in the Counter-Jihad continue to purvey them? The most reaonable explanation for this phenomenon (other than baffling obtuseness among otherwise intelligent individuals) is that, ladies and gentlemen, they truly believe in such sentiments.

I have a hunch Eric Allen Bell still thinks there are untold millions of harmless, decent Muslims even if, of course, he can't pinpoint -- with reliability adequate for our primary requirement of self-defense -- precisely who, and where, they are (though I have no reason to doubt he has suddenly done a 180 on his fond memories of all the nice, decent anecdotal Muslims he has personally known in his life -- let us just hope to God he hasn't seen fit to trust a single Muslim -- no matter how nice, decent, smiling, and wryly blue-jeaned with Western pop references dropping trippingly from his or her oily lips he or she may be -- in his present circumstances).

Correction to my last parenthetical sentence:

"(though I have no reason to doubt he has suddenly done a 180 on his fond memories of all the nice, decent anecdotal Muslims he has personally known..."

should be:

"(and I tend to have reason to doubt he has suddenly done a 180 on his fond memories of all the nice, decent anecdotal Muslims he has personally known ..."

I don't know why I rendered its opposite the first time around -- a Mohammedan slip...? :)

1979 newspaper column shed[s] light

"So far as I know, this 1979 column has not previously been brought to light, but it certainly should be because it broke some very interesting news about the “rumored billions of dollars the oil-rich Arab nations are supposed to unload on American black leaders and minority institutions.” The columnist quoted a black San Francisco lawyer who said, “It’s not just a rumor. Aid will come from some of the Arab states.”
Well, if anyone would know, it would have been this lawyer — Donald Warden, who had helped defend OPEC in an antitrust suit that year and had developed significant ties with the Saudi royal family since becoming a Muslim and taking the name Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour.
Al-Mansour told Jarrett that he had presented the “proposed special aid program to OPEC Secretary-General Rene Ortiz” in September 1979, and that “the first indications of Arab help to American blacks may be announced in December.” Maybe so, but I looked high and wide in newspapers in 1979 and 1980 for any other stories about this aid package funded by OPEC and never found it verified.
You would think that a program to spend “$20 million per year for 10 years to aid 10,000 minority students each year, including blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians and native Americans” would be referred to somewhere other than one obscure 1979 column, but I haven’t found any other word of it.
Maybe the funding materialized, maybe it didn’t, but what’s particularly noteworthy is that this black Islamic lawyer who “for several years [had] urged the rich Arab kingdoms to cultivate stronger ties to America’s blacks by supporting black businesses and black colleges and giving financial help to disadvantaged students” was also the same lawyer who allegedly helped arrange for the entrance of Barack Obama into Harvard Law School in 1988.
That tale had surfaced in 2008 when Barack Obama was a candidate for president and one of the leading black politicians in the country — Percy Sutton of New York — told an interviewer on a Manhattan TV news show that he had been introduced to Obama “by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas. He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama.”

More at link

Here is a list of people who supported and rejected the bill. The bill was overwhelming rejected after a comment by John Kerry who said "time as I have left, let me make it
clear: The Paul legislation requires all
identifiable persons associated with organizing,
planning, participating in the
attacks, trespass, breach, or attempted
attack, have been identified by the
Federal Bureau of Investigation, Bureau
of Diplomatic Security, or other
United States law enforcement entity,
and are in United States custody. We
are talking about other countries. That
is an absolutely impossible-to-fulfill
requirement and that is why it would
result in the cutoff of aid automatically,
and that is why it is dangerous."
It is far more dangerous to give these people money but our thick skulled senate doesn't realize that.

YEAS—10
Crapo
DeMint
Grassley
Lee
Moran
Paul
Risch
Roberts
Shelby
Toomey
NAYS—81
Akaka
Alexander
Ayotte
Barrasso
Baucus
Begich
Bennet
Bingaman
Blumenthal
Blunt
Brown (MA)
Brown (OH)
Cantwell
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Chambliss
Coats
Coburn
Cochran
Collins
Conrad
Coons
Corker
Cornyn
Durbin
Enzi
Feinstein
Franken
Gillibrand
Graham
Hagan
Harkin
Hatch
Hoeven
Hutchison
Inouye
Isakson
Johanns
Johnson (SD)
Johnson (WI)
Kerry
Klobuchar
Kohl
Kyl
Landrieu
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lieberman
Lugar
Manchin
McCain
McCaskill
McConnell
Menendez
Merkley
Mikulski
Murkowski
Nelson (NE)
Nelson (FL)
Portman
Pryor
Reed
Reid
Rockefeller
Sanders
Schumer
Sessions
Shaheen
Snowe
Stabenow
Tester
Thune
Udall (CO)

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