46% of Muslims in the U.S. think criticism of Islam should be criminalized

And 40% think that Muslims here should not be governed by the Constitution, but by Sharia. Does this really surprise anyone? Why should Muslims in the U.S. hold different beliefs from Muslims elsewhere?

"Guess who U.S. Muslims are voting for," by Bob Unruh for WND, October 31:

Nearly half of 600 Muslim-American citizens polled who plan to vote in the 2012 presidential election believe parodies of Muhammad should be prosecuted criminally in the U.S., and one in eight say the offense is so serious violators should face the death penalty.

The results came in a groundbreaking scientific poll for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies. It was taken Oct. 22-26 and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 3.98 percentage points.

The poll also found 40 percent of Muslims in America believe they should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Shariah standards.

And the big winner among Muslim-Americans in the presidential election is Barack Obama, the poll found. More than 72 percent said they are definitely supporting Obama, and another 8.5 percent are leaning that direction. Only 11 percent are for Romney....

“Almost half of those Muslims surveyed – an astonishing 46 percent – said they believe those Americans who offer criticism or parodies of Islam should face criminal charges,” said pollster Fritz Wenzel in an analysis of the survey’s results.

“Even more shocking: One in eight respondents said they think those Americans who criticize or parody Islam should face the death penalty, while another nine percent said they were unsure on the question,” he said.

Wenzel said even the 9 percent “undecided” on that particular question is alarming.

“Seldom in survey research does a response of ‘not sure’ carry such significance, but the response to this question certainly is a surprise, given the severity of the question, and offers insight into the conflict that some Muslims appear to face in making the ideals under-girding American society fit into their religious lifestyle,” he said.

Wenzel’s poll said 7.2 percent of the respondents said they “strongly agree” with the idea of execution for those who parody Islam, and another 4.3 percent said they somewhat agree.

While 80 percent said that they somewhat or strongly disagree with the idea, when those who said they were not sure are added, one in five Muslims across America cannot say they believe Christians or others who criticize Muhammad should be spared the death penalty.

More Muslim women (10.4 percent) than Muslim men (4.9 percent) said they strongly agree with the idea, while 12.4 percent of the women and 7.1 percent of the men were uncertain about the issue involving Muhammad.

Four in 10 said Muslims in America should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Islamic Shariah law.

“A much smaller percentage said they think the U.S. should establish an entirely separate court system to adjudicate matters involving Muslims,” Wenzel said.

While the respondents overwhelmingly lean toward the Democratic Party and like the direction Barack Obama, who repeatedly has praised Islam around the world, is leading this nation, they also have a fundamental conflict with American life, expressing objections to the freedom of speech and religion guaranteed in the Constitution.

American Muslims, Wenzel said, “show signs of ambivalence toward the U.S. Constitution generally and the First Amendment specifically.”

“These survey findings show a community in conflict with the foundations of our nation, as many Muslims favor and enjoy the freedoms offered by the U.S. Constitution, including participation in elections here, but at the same time significant percentages want to be treated differently than the average non-Muslim when it comes to legal matters,” he said.

“While 39 percent of Muslims said they believe existing U.S. courts should consult Shariah law when adjudicating cases involving Muslims, a plurality of 45 percent said they do not agree with this idea. Asked if the U.S. should establish separate courts based solely on Shariah law to adjudicate cases involving Muslim, 21 percent said it should. Two-thirds of respondents – 66 percent – said that separate courts are not necessary to adjudicate Muslims.”

While 9 of 10 of the Muslim respondents said they agree with the First Amendment, they are also in conflict with it, Wenzel said, citing evidence in answers to “another question in the survey which found that one-third of Muslims – 32 percent – believe Shariah should be the supreme law of the land in the United States,” Wenzel said.

“Another shocking finding from the survey is how Muslims view the religious freedoms of Christians. Asked whether U.S. citizens who are Christians have the right to evangelize Muslims to consider other faiths, just 30 percent agreed Christians have such a right. Another 42 percent said they do not have such a right, while 28 percent said they were unsure on the question.”

One in five say Muslim men should be allowed to follow their religion in America and have more than one wife, and 58 percent said criticism of their religion or of Muhammad should not be allowed under the Constitution.

While 43 percent said they disagreed with the idea of Christians evangelizing Muslims, another 27 percent said they were undecided. Only 19 percent said they “strongly agree” with the idea that Americans have a right to invite Muslims to consider another faith.

Nearly one in three said Israel either has no right to exist or they were uncertain whether it does.

Robert Spencer, author of “Stealth Jihad” and “Did Muhammad Ever Exist?,” told WND the survey is a “disquieting indication that Muslims in the U.S. support Shariah blasphemy laws and want to bring them to the U.S.”

“This should not surprise anyone,” he said. “There is no reason to believe that Muslims in the U.S. believe in a different form of Islam from that which prevails everywhere else. But it underscores the need for Americans to defend, forthrightly and without apology, the freedom of speech, as it is increasingly embattled today, and to revive and enact anti-Shariah laws nationwide.”

Spencer has authored 12 books on Islam and has led seminars about jihad for the United States Central Command, United States Army Command, the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force and others.

Pamela Geller, author of ”Stop the Islamization of America” and a WND columnist, said: “Restrictions on free speech are part of Shariah. This poll does nothing but show that Muslims in this country adhere to Shariah in large numbers. What is surprising is that the percentage of those who oppose free speech isn’t higher. But probably many of the respondents already know better than to say what they really think to non-Muslim pollsters.”...

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But...but...but...I thought it was just a tiny minority.

Invaders for sharia.

100% of freedom fighters are for criminalizing ISLAM, so there ...

The only difference between Mahoundians over here and Mahoundians over there, is a body of water and a few hills...

And will the Muslims in America who don't think that criticism of Islam should be criminalized, or that Sharia should not replace the Constitution for Muslims, be people that can be counted on when push comes to shove? I highly doubt it.

And so, in other words, ALL Muslims should be considered potential fifth columnists. Counting on ANY Muslim to support American ideals and principles over Islam and Sharia is deeply foolish. In fact, one has to ask how can anyone be a Muslim and still have a high regard for America and its Constitution? Anyone averring that such is possible is a person whose beliefs on this matter should be dismissed.

It's Islam or America. It's Islam or the Constitution. It's Islam or freedom. The choices here are this stark.

Though the pollster didn't ask it directly, we can figure what the Muslim answers would be to the Equal Protection Clause.

why, this oughta make the supertolerant evangelical alliances think....

na. habit of the day is spiritual blindness and hardened hearts

I'm very glad to see that such a study, with these specific questions, has been finally conducted. For 11 years after 9/11 the mainstream media and polling organizations (e.g., PEW, Gallup, etc.) have been carefully avoiding asking American Muslims about their support for specific elements of sharia such as restrictions on freedom of expression, while asking only ambiguous and softball questions designed to whitewash American Muslims' beliefs. The absence or scarcity of such data was one of the major factors that allowed the mainstream media to run with all kinds of apologetic myths and assumptions about American Muslims. Leave it to a "conservative" "right-wing" news organization like WND to commission a poll asking the questions that the others don't want to ask (or perhaps did ask but didn't want to report). Kudos to WND.

"8. Do you believe that criticism of Islam or Muhammad should be permitted under the Constitution’s First Amendment?"

58% of American Muslims, i.e., the majority of American Muslims, answered that such criticism should not be permitted. This result is in the same ballpark, though slightly less, than what was found for Muslims in the U.K. (58%-78%) and Denmark (66%) in response to similar questions. Based on the evidence I've seen thus far, it appears that the majority of Muslims in the West want at least some kind of legal or official restriction on such expressions.

Or rather, the majority are willing to affirm this position frankly and openly to western pollsters; for various reasons the true percentage is likely higher.

I think the wording of some questions may underestimate the amount of support for sharia and specific elements of sharia. (Another study conducted by a Muslim group several years ago showed about 80% support for sharia among American Muslims, but in that study respondents weren't asked specifically if they wanted sharia in America). For example, consider the results for this question:

14. "Do you agree or disagree that those who criticize or parody Islam in the U.S. should face criminal charges?"
(results with figures rounded off)
46% agreed
38% disagreed
17% not sure

First, note that while 46% is not an absolute majority, it is a clear plurality here. If the question were forced choice (only yes/no, agree/disagree responses allowed), it is likely that more than 50% would have agreed. Second, note that, unlike the other question (#8) about restrictions on expressions, this one (#14) doesn't include mention of Muhammad. Criticizing/lampooning Muhammad appears to be a bigger taboo than just criticizing Islam in general (e.g., see Muhammad cartoon and film riots, etc., as well as responses of U.K. Muslims--78% want to criminally prosecute and punish the Muhammad cartoonists, but the percentages of U.K. Muslims wanting such prosecution are less when the question refers to Islam in general, which may be one factor). Had question #14 also referred to Muhammad, then, it is likely the results would have been closer to those for question #8.

Anyways, very interesting study. I'm going to read some more and may have more comments.

Outlawing criticism of Islam will never happen because by it's very theology, Islam is the antithesis of Christianity. What ever Islam says, the bible contradicts, and vis a versa. So what is considered blasphemy in Islam, such as Mohammed being a demon possessed pseudoprophet, is considered true according to biblical principles.

I don't want to sound pessimistic, but many Muslim countries were once Christian, and now they have their few remaining Christians firmly under the thumb, Biblical principles notwithstanding.

You are realistic, PJG. As dear Dumbledoresarmy says, muscular Christianity is what is required.

The percentage who say that Israel has no right to exist is surprisingly small, low in comparison to Muslims in other countries. I wonder what is behind that? It doesn't jive with the intense hostility to Israel expressed by most US Muslims and organizations in my experience.

Well, Islam's denial of Jesus' divinity, atoning death on the cross, and actual resurrection from the dead is blasphemy to me. Now, what would the MSM say if I thought that Islam should, on that account, be criminalized?

"Well, Islam's denial of Jesus' divinity, atoning death on the cross, and actual resurrection from the dead is blasphemy to me."

I wholly agree, Kepha ...along with their end times scenario where Jesus returns as a muslim and then proceeds to kill all Christians who won't convert to islam. It's all absolute rubbish!

They're welcome to think whatever they want. But if they act on it, they will discover that this country is vehemently opposed to such limits on free speech.

The vast majority of people in this country will never put up with such nonsense. They can riot in the streets for all I care. They won't get their way.

You can’t separate the secular from the “religious” in islam, simply because it’s really always been ALL only a secular (us-versus-them, and might-makes-right) affair anyway!

Moslems ARE atheists!

While all “real” religions, at WORST, only say:

“Obey our silly rules, or GOD (/’the gods’) will get you!”

ONLY islam says:

“Obey our silly rules, or WE will get you (‘for god’)!”

So obviously, moslems are only atheists because they have NO faith in their god’s abilities or desires to pay any attention to them or to anyone alse ever anyway, not even a desire nor ability to enforce even it’sown us-versus-them, might-makes-right creed.

Allah is described in the Qur’an as a big, bad, remote, scary thing, so the group called “islam” and it’s rule-book, the Qur’an, are the only gods they can worship and obey.

So, static islam itself is the false idol they continue to worship – and it’s about as responsive to human needs as the rocks they used to worship!

MOSLEMS FEAR ALLAH, AS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE ANYTHING WORSE THAN AN OMNISCIENT, OMNIPOTENT, CAPRICIOUS UNKNOWABLE AND UNKNOWN BEING. COMPARED TO SUCH A THREAT, EVEN THE HOPE OF IT’S OPPOSITE – OF A RATIONAL SET OF PRINCIPLES AND PHYSICAL LAWS LIMITING SUCH A BEAST – SEEMS DANGEROUSLY NAIVE AND IN FACT LIKELY TO FOCUS ITS WRATHFUL AND PAINFUL ATTENTIONS ON THE IMAGINER.

THUS ALLAH IS PORTRAYED AS ONLY HATING THE NOTION THAT IT’S POWER IS LIMITED OR SPLIT; THAT IT IS, IN FACT, LESS THAN OMNIPOTENT. SO ALL SHARIA ‘LAWS’ BASED ON THIS SUBJECTIVE FEAR ARE NATURALLY AND BY DEFINITION, DELIBERATELY IRRATIONAL (CAUSE AND EFFECT CANNOT BE HELD TO CONSTRAIN ALLAH’S POWERS OF INFLICTING RANDOM PAIN)!

THUS TO MOSLEMS, ALL FACTS ARE ONLY OPINIONS, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN EVER KNOW ANYTHING, SINCE ALLAH IS IN CHARGE AND HE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE HIS MIND ABOUT ANYTHING &/OR EVERYTHING ANYWAY!

IDOLATRY is an excuse to remain criminally, negligently, delinquently irrational; to enjoy the “right” to remain ignorantly, irresponsibly WRONG! ("The Allah Made Us Do It")!)

To criminals who pretend to believe that all facts are only opinions, of course all laws are also held by them to be only suggestions! AND VICE-VERSA!

THEY HAVE NO PRINCIPLES BEYOND THIS CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT, DELINQUENT TREASON TO RATIONALITY!

IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, THEN ALLAH WILLED IT TO HAPPEN, SO IT CAN’T HAVE BEEN BAD, BY DEFINITION! MIGHT MAKES RIGHT, EVERY TIME! And if I’M BAD (as a delinquent criminal moslem) since I got away with it, then it was really ALWAYS a GOOD thing anyway, so no one has any right to attack ME by accusing me of anything, either!

This is why these criminals (and their liberal enablers) push for their backwards “anti-Blasphemy” notions that it should be “illegal” to accuse any criminals (moslems) of their crimes, if doing so might hurt their feelings, and so “make” them commit even more crimes!

Here's islam's "holy Message from god" as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it's Founder:

"I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me - and you can, too!"

-Muhammad-

Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed "god" for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be "obvious" that "god" wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!

Criminals believe in idolatrous group-might-made-rights (which is of course only what all criminals pretend to believe in - if they can take your stuff by force, then they have a 'right' to it) which automatically deprives all real human citizen individuals of theirs!

So lying (fraud) is also their favorite tactic, because it's the most basic form of theft (it's the theft of the Truth) and theft IS crime! Of course, their first lie is to them selves: "I have a right to your stuff, simply because I have the ability to take it without asking you!"

Muhammad's islam pretends that objective, right-and-wrong morality are all false concepts which don't really exist - because, as moslems, only the big bad scary capricious unknown and unknowable idol of allah is responsible for everything, including both "good" and "bad," as their main #1 excuse for their crimes!

Islam is NOT A RELIGION (at all, much less one “of peace”)! It’s ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate!

The ‘theological’ notion of Allah’s “oneness” is CRUCIAL to their main criminal, might-makes-right alibi, that “we aren’t responsible, and no ones is every really a criminal anyway, because we’re really all only victims anyway:

“God told us to commit these crimes! Whee!”

;-(

PS: AND - IF ALLAH ISN'T OMNIPOTENT, THEIR MAIN EXCUSE ("THE ALLAH MADE US DO IT!") FAILS!

;-(

PS: The ‘theological’ notion of Allah’s “oneness” is CRUCIAL to their main criminal, might-makes-right alibi, that “we aren’t responsible, and no ones is every really a criminal anyway, because we’re really all only victims anyway:

“God told us to commit these crimes! Whee!”

AND - IF ALLAH ISN'T OMNIPOTENT, THEIR MAIN EXCUSE:
("THE ALLAH MADE US DO IT!") FAILS!

;-(

"Moslems ARE atheists!"

You're right! ...good point.

46 percent...? Obama seems to be one of them...

We invite these people into our country without some pledge of allegiance to our laws and moral codes. We deserve it.
I bet the doors will be more wide open now to show Muslims that we will not stereotype them.

What a bloody joke. They are eroding our way of life and no one gives a shit - except Jihad Watch and the likes of Pamela Geller.

Insanity prevails.

It is like leaving the chicken coop open to vegetarian foxes.

"I bet the doors will be more wide open now to show Muslims that we will not stereotype them."

Eventually "the doors" will be completely removed (for moslem immigration) once moslems are sufficiently represented in immigration authorities.

"I don't want to sound pessimistic, but many Muslim countries were once Christian, and now they have their few remaining Christians firmly under the thumb, Biblical principles notwithstanding."

Not one of those countries, however, became that way through non-violent osmosis: all were militarily conquered, in one way or another. Yes, even Indonesia (pace Snouck Hurgronje, the creator of the myth that Indonesia was "peacefully" overcome by Muslim "traders"; he developed this interpretation by purposefully ignoring a mountain of native "fables" recounting innumerable violent conflicts slowly overtaking the non-Muslim rulers and their peoples over a long period of time -- his logic being that, since they were "fables", they could not possibly contain historiographical fact).

46% of muslims and go and f...themselves. it aint happening.
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46% of Muslims in the U.S. think criticism of Islam should be criminalized...

American Muslims, Wenzel said, “show signs of ambivalence toward the U.S. Constitution generally and the First Amendment specifically.”
.............................

Well, all of this this should give all the idiots pause who posit some sort of moderate "American Islam".

It should, but it won't.

The *only* reason—and this is changing fast, even as I write this—that Muslims in America have so far been less of a threat than they have proven in France, or Britain, or Nigeria is that they make up less than 10% of the population.

It is proven in *every single case* throughout history that the greater the percentage of Muslim population, the more violent, demanding, and supremacist the Muslim population becomes—until, at around 50%, we see a bloody push to fully impose Shari'ah and put Infidels under Islamic oppression. This is what is occurring in Nigeria now, and it is ugly and bloody.

Right now, Europe is experiencing the increasing Jihad threat presented by a Muslim population topping 10%.

If—God forbid!—the United States foolishly allows herself to wind up in the same position, the Muslims here will be no different.


"And 40% think that Muslims here should not be governed by the Constitution, but by Sharia. Does this really surprise anyone? Why should Muslims in the U.S. hold different beliefs from Muslims elsewhere?"

Enough said. This is proof that Islam has no intention of ever obeying any other law except Sharia Law.

It doesn't get any clearer than that. So should the free world continue trying to appease, help, and agree with people who will never except the laws of the west and hated kaffirs.....

I clicked on the link and read the posted article in situ.

Then I spent quite a long time reading through the 1000+ Comments that had attached themselves to it.

The great majority would not have been out of place in a Comments thread here, though none of the monikers so far as I could see were familiar, and I didn't recognise any of the 'voices' (of course, I may be wrong) so I'm assuming that the Comments were either from people who lurk here but do not post, or from people who have done their homework elsewhere (though I think a couple of people were encouraging their fellow posters to read Spencer's books). Out there, Mr and Mrs American are reading the Quran, and they can see the loaded gun pointing right at them. And they have *also* found out about Muslim deception, and are applying that to their experience of Muslims, and of Muslim spin doctors, as well.

There were a few dhimmi idiots and a few nasty Mohammedtrolls, but they were being slapped down well and truly.

Most people were drawing the obvious conclusion: that Muslims who think in the manner that many of them, as revealed by the survey, *do* think, do not belong in the USA. They should not be admitted; and those that are present ought to be sent packing.

The wind is changing...

Time, I think, to repost something that was posted here at Jihadwatch three years ago by a then stalwart regular, one 'kamala'.

The thread in which it appeared was created when we were using intensedebate, so did not 'roll over' along with the article to which it was attached, when we returned to typepad.

However, I copied and kept the comment at the time.

It features an extended extract from a book by an anglo-american convert to Islam, that is very apposite here.

So here is that comment, from 2009.


KAMALA, jihadwatch poster, wrote:

Jeff Lang is an American Muslim convert. Unlike most Muslims we hear about around here, he's very honest and I believe truthfully working toward a real transformation of Islam into a peaceful ideology. He is accomplishing this in part by steadily analyzing many of the "authentic" hadith and demonstrating that they cannot be true.

'But as Robert has pointed out many times, one can only reform what one admits has a problem, and Lang readily does, in his 1997 book "Even Angels Ask."

'What does Lang have to say about the impact of Islamic jurisprudence?

QUOTE:
"A minority of Muslims ... believes that we must remain cognizant of the historical context of Muhammad's actions and sayings and that if we are to apply his example correctly, we must be alert to the many differences that exist between his time and ours... [note that Lang characterises this 'liberal' approach, as being conducted by a 'minority'- dda]

"The main assumption behind the stricter approach [which characterises the majority - dda] is that the best and most efficient way to derive moral and spiritual benefit from Muhammad's life example is by imitating him as closely as possible. (p. 104) UNQUOTE


'Further:

QUOTE
"Almost all Muslim religious leaders ... uphold the classical dar al Islam/dar al harb concept ...

"**This poses a very difficult personal dilemma for many converts, because it seems to them that to become a Muslim, they are required to become enemies of their own countries** {MY EMPHASIS - dda]. (p. 119) UNQUOTE

'And Lang writes of his own experience attending a Muslim lecture at an American mosque in the early 80s: {I wonder whether, in the book, he names the mosque? - dda}

QUOTE
"The second lecture was given by Hisham, a very bright medical student who had been studying in America for almost two years. I liked and respected Hisham very much...

"Hisham spoke that night about a Muslim's duties and responsibilities... His speech was very moving and had been running about an hour when he closed it with the following unexpected and stern remark.

- "Finally, **we must never forget--and this is extremely important--that as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government--anywhere in the world--in order to replace it by an Islamic one** {my emphasis - dda}."

"Hisham!" I interrupted. "Are you implying that Muslim American citizens are to commit themselves to the destruction of the U.S. government?--

"That they are to be a fifth column in America--a secret revolutionary group seeking to overthrow the government?

"**Do you mean that when an American converts to Islam he must commit himself to political treason?!"** {my emphasis - dda}

"I thought that by presenting Hisham with a very extreme scenario, it would force him to soften or qualify his statement.

" He looked down at the floor as he pondered my question momentarily. Then he looked at me with an expression that reminded me of a doctor about to break the news to his patient that his tumor is malignant.

"Yes," he said. "Yes, that's true." (p. 117). END EXCERPT FROM LANG.

That was where Kamala concluded the posting.

Sooo: let's run that past again, shall we?

Lang, 'Even Angels Ask', is in a mosque in America in **1987**.

And this is what he hears, from a foreign Muslim who is studying medicine in the USA:


"we must never forget--and this is extremely important--that as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government--anywhere in the world--in order to replace it by an Islamic one".

Lang restates the proposition, to make it as clear as clear:

"Are you implying that Muslim American citizens are to commit themselves to the destruction of the U.S. government?--

"That they are to be a fifth column in America--a secret revolutionary group seeking to overthrow the government?

"**Do you mean that when an American converts to Islam he must commit himself to political treason?!"*

And the Muslim answers: YES.

Couldn't be plainer.

For persons new to this site and this subject, or who may have missed it at the time, a classic from the Jihadwatch archives.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/fitzgerald-muslims-and-america.html

Fitzgerald: Muslims and America

Excerpt:

"...And one more question. If Muslims have no trouble at all being "as American as apple pie" then surely they have no trouble viewing the defining document of the American polity, the Constitution of the United States, as worthy of their complete loyalty.

"And that includes, of course, the guarantees of individual rights in the Bill of Rights.

"And since the Bill of Rights is so very close, in so many of its key provisions -- freedom of speech, freedom of conscience (which naturally includes the right to apostatize) -- to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,

"can we conclude that American-as-apple-pie American Muslims find it puzzling that all of the Muslim countries (save for the Shah's Iran, and most temporarily and temporizingly) have failed to subscribe to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and instead have concocted a Muslim version, the so-called Cairo Declaration, which in every essential respect, involving individual rights, fatally vitiates the original, Universal Declaration?

"These people can carry on all they want with their bromides, and their pledges-of-fake-allegiance,

"but to the precise extent that they are True Believers in Islam, and Defenders of the Faith,

"to that exact extent they cannot conceivably owe their allegiance, above what Islam commands and prohibits, to the American Constitution.

"And that means no Believer who owes his loyalty to Islam and fellow members of the Umma, that is, no one calling himself a Muslim who is truthful about the requirements of this Total Belief-System and what it inculcates (above all, the division, permanent and immutable, between Believer and Infidel, until such time as Infidel becomes Believer), can conceivably owe his allegiance to a document that is flatly contradicted, in letter and spirit, by the Shari'a."...

click on the link and read it all, anyone who has not seen this before.

It has not dated.

In the light of this oh-so-revealing survey, it is more relevant than ever.

And, for good measure, a couple more items.

First, from two years ago, one Samir Khan.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/us-jihadi-i-am-a-traitor-to-america-because-my-religion-requires-me-to-be.html

U.S. jihadi: "I am a traitor to America because my religion requires me to be"


And then, also from 2010, from an account of the trial of the would-be Times Square Valentine's Day bomber, who had taken out American citizenship prior to embarking upon his plot to mass murder Americans by detonating a car bomb in Times Square.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-10-06/life-sentence-for-defiant-times-square-bomber/2286618

Life sentence for defiant Times Square bomber

'The 30-year-old obtained US citizenship in April 2009, but said Tuesday it was only a ploy.
"Didn't you swear allegiance to this country?" Judge Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum asked him.
"I sweared, but I didn't mean it," Shahzad replied.

(In another report, we hear the same exchange. Don't know whether this link still works (the other one, the ABC one, still works, but I haven't checked this one):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39513363/ns/us_news-security/39527131

'During his statement before sentencing, Cedarbaum cut him off at one point to ask if he had sworn allegiance to the United States when the Pakistan-born Shahzad became a citizen last year.
"I did swear but I did not mean it," Shahzad said.
"So you took a false oath," the judge told him.


Yes. He took a false oath, this malevolent Muslim from Pakistan, during the ceremony in which he took American citizenship.

Citizenship in a country for which he had nothing but contempt and whose citizens he was probably already plotting to attempt to kill in large numbers.

I would hazard the guess that a very great many Muslim immigrants are taking similar false oaths, all over the world; oaths that they have absolutely no intention of honouring, oaths that they will break the moment they feel the time is right.

This poll means that every other Muslim you meet -- whether on the street, in a store, as a neighbor, or in school or as a business colleague -- supports a law punishing blasphemy against Mohammed.

The next logical question to ask any one of these Muslims (or in another poll) is: How should a blasphemer be punished?

And don't let them get away with squirreling out of answering this simple question.

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“Robert Spencer is indefatigable. He is keeping up the good fight long after many have already given up. I do not know what we would do without him. I appreciate all the intelligence and courage it takes to keep going despite the appeasement of the West.”
Ibn Warraq

“America's most informed, fearless, and compelling voice on modern jihadism.”
Andrew C. McCarthy, Senior Fellow at National Review Institute

“Robert Spencer is the leading voice of scholarship and reason in a world gone mad. If the West is to be saved, we will owe Robert Spencer an incalculable debt.”
Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

"The consummate Islam critic and expert." — Bruce Bawer

“Over the years, we have become friends, and I have received his assistance on several pieces of legislation I proposed.”
Former Congressman Tom Tancredo

“Few people are capable of applying scholarship, analytical reasoning, and objectivity to their topic -- while simultaneously being readable and witty -- as can Robert Spencer.”
Raymond Ibrahim

“A national treasure...The acclaimed scholar of Islam.”
Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy

“I am indeed honored to call him my friend.”
Brad Thor, novelist

“A top American analyst of Islam....A serious scholar...I learn from him.”
Daniel Pipes

“A brilliant scholar and writer.”
Douglas Murray

"One of my best teachers."
Ashraf Ramelah, Voice of the Copts

“Thank God there’s at least one man with balls left in the West.”
Kathy Shaidle, Five Feet of Fury

“I read people like [Mark Steyn] and Bob Spencer and the rest of them, and I say, ‘Boortz, you’re pretending you’re an author. These people really are. They really write some entertaining, some standup stuff.’”
Neal Boortz

“Robert Spencer is the Stephen King of Jihad.”
Chris Gaubatz, Muslim Mafia

“Armed with facts and fearlessness, Spencer stands up for Western civilization.”
Michelle Malkin

“Widely read in conservative foreign policy circles.”
New York Times

“Widely read in many quarters in Washington.”
Washington Post

“A canny operative who likely has the inside track on the State Department’s Middle East affairs desk should the tea party win the White House.”
New York Magazine

“A hero of the American right.”
Karen Armstrong

"The leading anti-Islamic intellectual in the United States....The go-to Islam expert for the right wing."
Salon Magazine

“Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down.”
Stephen Suleyman Schwartz

“One of the nation's most notorious Islamophobes.”
Hamas-linked CAIR

"Geller and Spencer are probably the most important propagandizing Islamophobes in the world. These people's voices speak very loudly — not just here in the United States but overseas."
Heidi Beirach, Southern Poverty Law Center

“Satanic ignoramus.”
Khaleel Mohammed

“The Likud anti-Christ.”
Dar al-Hayat newspaper (Saudi Arabia)

“Zionist Crusader, missionary of hate, counter-Islam consultant.”
Al-Qaeda’s Adam Gadahn, “Azzam the American”



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