AFDI ad copy contest: Pick your favorite Qur'anic quote for our new ad campaign

duplicitous to say the least!!!!
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Surah 8:12-14

"Remember when your Lord inspired you with the message "I am with you, and I will instill
terror into the hearts of the disbelievers. So strike their necks and take off all of their fingertips. That is because they defied Allah and his Messenger and whoever defies Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strong in his punishment. "That is yours so take it" And verily for the disbelievers is a burning fire."

My favorite. :)

the beating one
or
2:106

This is a good idea, but IMO doomed to failure. Robert mentions that one problem is that many will just assume that - like with Old Testament verses - these Quranic ones are outdated historical "stories" that nobody looks to for guidance anymore. I mean, how many Christians execute people working on the Sabbath, right?

What they should do is include a commentary or two at the bottom by a respected Islamic university scholar about the absolute authority and eternal relevance of these Quranic instructions, and maybe a quick word about the abrogation of the CAIR verses. Yes, it's a little wordy, but this stuff can be put on the bottom in smaller font for people who pause to check it out and inform themselves.

IMO most people will ignore these sword verses if there is no explanation about how the majority of Muslims worldwide view them as "in play".

Robert, out of the selections you've listed (and using the 9/11/2001 WTC attack photo), my votes are for 3:151, 4:56, 8:60 and 48:29. My choices are in no particular order of preference.

Christians do not consider ourselves to be idolatrous, so some will read the messages about idolators and think that it didn't apply to them.

Some of the other passages imply that some sort of acceptable truce or peace treaty can be negotiated with islamists. We know that simply isn't true. Nothing short of our conversion to islam, enslavement or death will satisfy Mohammed's followers.

I also like Smredneck5's suggestion but you will have just a few seconds to get your message read, so the shorter verses will probably be more effective and easier for the reader to remember and think about later on.

One must include Qur'an 9:29:

Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

When I first read that, in Robert Spencer's "Onward Muslim Soldiers," it struck a chill that remains to this day. Let any and all adherents of the odious creed of Islam know that I, for one, will never feel myself subdued before you.

Wow. Great counter-ads. This is a terrific development. Thank you AFDI!

I only wish you could have used the Rodwell translation of the Quran instead, which is more accurate on 9:5. ‘Mushirkun’ doesn’t translate well as ‘idolaters.’ It basically refers to all non-Muslims, not just ‘idolaters.’ People might get the wrong idea. It should read, “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”

But whatever, I can understand why you guys would want to use a Muslim translation – so CAIR can’t get away with then claiming that you used a bogus translation.

Great ads! I can’t wait till these get rolled out!

My tuppence worth.

An image of a woman being stoned to death. The copy would read: 'This brutality is Islamic law. Do you want this in the USA?'

(Note: I wouldn't say 'Sharia law' because 'Islamic law' would be more readily understood by more people)

Great idea! But please, any quote that refers to "God" should actually be attributed to the lunatic moon god Allah. People need to learn & know the difference.

Quran 4.11: Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females.

Love it! Excellent riposte but IMO the message needs to be short & to the point; people have short attention spans so a single sentence is ideal-

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Also showing Islamic atrocities is SO impactful- humans suffering, not just the WTC-

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.co.uk/ the crucifxion picture is specially revolting.

Robert, please don't use Quran quotes about afterlife punishment for non-believers. There are millions of Christians who believe in this as well, and while I have a problem with their belief, I am not afraid of them taking on the role of the punishing devil on earth. That difference is so large and meaningful that the jihad threat is trivialized when it stands next to criticism of afterlife theology.

Robert,

If you would, consider highlighting the Allah-has-turned-Jews-into-pigs-and-apes as explained in the Koran,
2:65
5:60
7:166

This will help explain to the unknowing (thank you, MSM, Hamas loves you) the eternal hatred that Muslims have for Israel, further exposing why there will NEVER be peace in the Mid-East. If Allah has commanded it in the Koran, Muslims have no choice but to obey Allah and forever hate.

The header text could be
"THE STILL-VALID ORDERS"
And below:
2:187, 2:189, 4:91, 4:102, 6:66, 8:12, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4-5 or 59:2

Other religions don't have anything similar still-valid, AFAIK.

Yes, unbelievers -- I'll switch it up.

Thanks :)

The Bible is descriptive in its texts of battles and killing. The Koran is prescriptive!!

your blue banner is a real winner. the little girl in the green makes me sad. she just wants to be a good little girl....but is on the wrong side.

Feeling so enraged by Islamic savagery I will actually make a donation, not large because I'm on a pension. Can I encourage all here to do likewise?

Remember Malala and her incredible courage- and the bastards who shot her.

Here's one ...

The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

4:34 . . . "If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great."

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That's pretty plain ...the quran teaches domestic violence towards women; this being one of many verses that subscribe to this evil practice.

CornHolio, good point. Perhaps it should be noted in small print the following. 'Islam never had a reformation. It is long overdue.'

Verse 2:216 is my favourite:

(Jihad) Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

Looks like 60+ years of squeezing present generation of German people for Hitler's holocaust business is almost over. Now, the old ghetto gang is trying to start a new business over 9/11 tragedy.

I was wondering how come majority of the victims family of of 9/11 are not with the ISLAMOPHOBI spreading group as this one?

Putting a picture of burning tower on the ad and blaming Islam for it nothing but remind me of great Christian Monk Martin Luther's sermons about the real devils or friends of Satan.

Koran has plenty of hate verses against kafirs like you and me. Some of that are:
And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out, He expends as He pleases; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; and We have put enmity and hatred among them till the day of resurrection; whenever they kindle a fire for war Allah puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land; and Allah does not love the mischief-makers.

Qur'an 5:64

The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Qur'an 9:30

"Pick your favorite Qur'anic quote for our new ad campaign"

Allah the sadist Q.10:4 “… as for those who disbelieve, theirs will be a boiling drink and painful doom because they disbelieved.”

http://schnellmann.org/hr-resolution-16-18-criminalisation-of-criticism-of-islam.html

Another *gem* from the unholy quran ...

>>Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

65:1 O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617, emphasis added)

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This is disgusting! ...and so was pedophile-prophet muhammad (perdition is upon him); along with all muslim men that subscribe to this evil practice of having sex with CHILDREN. Shame on muhammad and shame on these muslim men!

I also had that idea alread:-) But I think you must be very cautious that no one interprets those adds as if you are a muslim and mean it for serious... :-)

Looks like Jihad watch have more religious scholars trained in pawn shop seminaries. Keep reciting your mantra of ISLAMOPHOBIA along with Mama's old song "Buy low.... sell high

lol

Use that same little girl's image on a banner which reads:

Islam teaches her this, too:

For the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands. An exemplary punishment from Allah. Qur'an 5:38

Would someone please escort danny back to the funny farm, he got out again ...

My nomination: Quran 9:29. A clear, unambiguous call to violence:

Fight those from among the People of the Book who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax with their own hand and acknowledge their subjection.

And, for those insisting that it's quoted "out-of-context" (the usual tired defence by adherents to the Religion of Peace, and their dhimmi backers), I have bad news: the "context" is no better... Q'uran 9:28 talks about non-Muslims being "unclean". While Q'uran 9:30 throws "a curse" on non-Muslims. The full passage of verses can be seen at the link above...

I believe a Jew or a Christian can read and interpret himself or herself the Bible - the Hebrew Bible in the case of a Jew and both the Old and New Testaments for a Christian - and be a good, decent human being. I am speaking of a Jew and a Christian who does studies the Bible apart from the guidance of a rabbi, a minister or a priest. Can a Muslim do the same with the Qur'an - apart from one of the four recognized schools of Islam or the help of an imam or Reliance of the Traveller, etc. - and be a good and a decent human being?

Noble Qur'an 5:32 . . . quickly followed by 5:33 right on its heels.

I'd like a banner with following text:

"20,000 terror attacks since Sep.11.
Which of these Koranic commandments the murderers violated?" (or misunderstood)

...followed by a number of particularly hideous quotations from kuran.

Well, something along these lines...

Surah 7 (quoted in the CAIR ad) is a middle Meccan Surah, meaning it was "revealed" to Muhammad when he was still a persecuted "prophet" in Mecca with only a few dozen followers. The "revelations" he received during this time called for peace, not because Islam promotes peace, but because Muslims were in the minority. Later, when Muslims formed a majority, Muhammad's "revelations" suddenly called for the violent subjugation of all non-Muslims (see 9:29, for instance, which was "revealed" shortly before Muhammad's death).

Interestingly, the context of the verse quoted by CAIR is a collection of condemnations of the religious beliefs of the polytheists of Mecca (see 7:190-198, for instance, which immediately precede 7:199). Why is this important? Because groups like CAIR assure us that it's wrong and immoral to criticize the religious beliefs of others. Yet they go to the most peaceful period in Muhammad's career, and even here we find Muhammad condemning the beliefs of others!

http://www.answeringmuslims.com

Personally, I'd like to see a map of the middle East, from early 19th century to 1946 to show the world that Palestine had never existed until after 1967, when the PLO and their arab "benefactors" decided it was in their best interests to beat that "dog" to death. Also, maybe a mention that Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the koran. My votes for koranic verses are 9:29, 9:5, and 4:34.

Ima

The ads should not limit themselves to the Koran.

The hadiths are of at least equal importance to the vast majority of Muslims -- if not even more important on a certain level.

See: The Koran's important -- but don't forget about the hadiths

The three collections considered most authoritative in Islam, the "Sahih Hadiths" (collected by Bukhari, Dawud, and a guy named Muslim) have plenty of juicy stuff to quote.

Just to pluck one example out of a turban:

Mohammed commanded that both "top" and "bottom" gays should be put to death:

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done." -- Abu Dawud (4462)

(Note: according to the Koran, the main sin of the "people of Lot" was homosexuality)

3:151. Nice and concise. Easy to remember. And easy to equate to the current conduct of muslims worldwide.

LemonLime beat me to it, I was about to suggest we come up with our own 40 Ahadith in response to the beautiful quotes of (pbuh) plucked out of the most unreliable hadith collections with (by their own admittance except when it suits them) very iffy lines of transmission. We could quite easily cherry pick ours exclusively from Sahi collections. Oh what fun we could have!

Nice to see pawnshop educated seminary scholars researching Islam and exchanging ideas about ISLAMOPHOBIA spreading tricks. Don't forget the real idea;-

" Idea of human freedom remains, one of the greatest idea the world have ever known, effort to transform this idea by spreading ISLAMOPHOBIA and HATE shall not bring lasting peace in the middle-east.

It is highly recommended to all the right wing Zionist foot soldiers and that Petrograd born hooker turn self-declared atheist philosopher's derange idea is only good for mentally unbalance patients.

danny wrote:

"Right wing Zionist link organization, such as Jihad watch is simply twisting facts toward their main agenda for more violence in the middle-east."

darn-it danny, now the secret is out ...

Something to remember, as regards the CAIR ad with the sweet little butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth hijabette reciting the Quran verse:

In Islamspeak, 'justice' = Sharia. Often, 'justice' also = 'whatever Muslims want", or "Muslims ruling over non-Muslims". Any situation in which Muslims are not the absolute Top Dogs all the time, is seen as "Injustice" or 'Unjust". Any situation in which Muslims rule and Muslims are free to do whatever they damn well like to non-Muslims - not excluding assault, rape, kidnapping and enslavement, robbery, arson, slander, and individual or mass murder - is 'Justice' or 'Just'.

In Islamspeak, 'the ignorant' = anybody who just can't or won't see the wonderfulness of Islam (e.g. who refuses to accept that no music or song, no paintings or statues of living beings, no wine, no pet dogs, is *the* perfect way for human beings to live). How 'ignorant' we are: we don't want to be Muslims, we don't want to be ruled and treated like sh*t by Muslims, we prefer monogamy to polygyny, our laws hold that 'marrying' underage girls is illegal, ditto wife-beating, and we think a woman can be perfectly modest whilst going about in public with her face, ears, hair, neck, and most portions of her arms and legs visible. Oh, how 'ignorant' we are!

'Forgiveness' = biding your time in a passive-aggressive manner, until you are strong enough to turn the tables and impose Islamic 'justice' upon those 'ignorant' kuffar.

As articulated by one Taqi Osmani:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

Our followers ‘must live in peace until strong enough to wage jihad’

- Andrew Norfolk Times Online: September 8, 2007

"Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani argues that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle...".

and also by one Hamza Yusuf, an American convert to Islam (the same article helpfully shows us that 'jihad' is 'mercy'...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/11/hamza-yousef-jihad-is-actually-considered-a-rahma-mercy-in-islam.html

Hamza Yousef: "Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam"

"The Muslim society has lost the ability of strategic thinking, which Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) exemplified by compromising on several points with the enemy when he signed the Treaty of Hudaibia, said leading American Muslim, Shaikh Hamza Yousuf, at a lecture on Monday.

"Elaborating his point, Shaikh Hamza Yousuf said, “There are times when you have to live like a sheep in order to live in the future like a lion.”

Allternatively, Islamic 'forgiveness' may mean merely 'not actually KILLING the dhimmis, so long as they pay the jizya on time".

What no one has seen fit to mention is that the sweet sounding quote by CAIR in its deceptive advert at the top of this page: “Show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant.” Is from 7:199 of the Koran and thus verse was abrogated by 9:5, the verse of the sword:

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

As a counter advertising campaign all that needs to be done is to repeat the same CAIR ad with a line through it followed by a quote of the abrogating verse IN FULL as most people would have no clue what a terse description like “verse of the sword” means.

Everyone should keep a list of all 246 abrogated verses handy as a word document so that a quick search can be made whenever a sweet sounding verse is used by Muslim apologists to deceive those who have never heard about the abrogated verses.

and as for the predictable nonsense by 'danny', trying to deny the Islamic motivation of the 9/11 jihad ghazi raiders:

here's Australian scholar Mark Durie who had spent time in Aceh learning the language and studying their literature (which is packed full of all the jihad verses from the Quran), talking about what happened after 9/11:

http://markdurie.blogspot.com/2010/09/third-choice-interview-of-mark-durie-by.html

Monday, September 20, 2010
The Third Choice — Interview of Mark Durie by Mark Tapson for FrontPage Magazine

"...I first became interested in Islam when doing linguistic field work in Aceh, Indonesia, in the early 1980’s.

"The Acehnese people are proud of their Islamic identity, but despite enjoying countless discussions about religion with them, I made no attempt to study Islam formally; my whole focus was on linguistic research.

"But I couldn’t escape learning about jihad, because it played such a large role in the historical consciousness of the people. An amazingly large number of works of Acehnese literature are jihad epics...

"When I left academia to become an Anglican minister, around 1998, I thought I was leaving Islamic jihad well behind me.

"I had no idea of the depth and breadth of the global Islamic movement.

"Then as I watched the burning World Trade Center towers collapse in the New York morning sunshine, **I knew there was no ideology on this earth other than Islamic jihad which could have inspired such an attack.** {my emphasis - dda}

It was no surprise when verses from the Koran reportedly found in the backpacks of the terrorists were exactly the same verses which had figured so prominently in Acehnese jihad epic poems from over a century ago...".

I'm going to have to vote for 4:34. It's a very sensitive topic for Muslims to have to talk about and it's very difficult for them to lie about.

Fight only those who fight you?
009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
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Want the only surefire way to paradise?
009.111 : Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme
Where does it say this in the Gospel?
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What exactly is a just cause?
017.033 Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law
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So jihad means spiritual struggle? Why are the blind, lame and sick exempt?
48:17 - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."
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Say what? The peaceful verses were "revealed" first?
002.106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

Quran (30:45) That He may reward those who believe and work righteous deeds, out of his Bounty. For He loves not those who reject Faith. (God doesnt love non-Muslims.)

Quran (58:22) Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred.

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (5:51)

For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies (4:101)

See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? (13:41)

And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things. (33:27)

"Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will." (2.223)

Golden Rule of Islam?
048.029 Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. ...
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Quoting the koran is a great idea. I was thinking about that when the "savage" ads came out.
(BTW all the talk about using the word "savage" sure got the ads a tremendous amount of coverage, good job!)
One slogan that keeps going around in my mind is
"Read a koran, be appalled"
I did and I was.

Islame, where bad is good and badder, better

I have never been a great fan of the 'savage' bashing ads, not because they are untrue, but because they give the wrong impression.

We critics of Islam need to be extra careful of how we portray ourselves, given how sensitive people are to our message. I believe that our message is lost the moment we use tactics that could be construed as intolerant, or hateful.

Most people know nothing about Islam, or, like myself once, saw it through the filter of Rumi.

Reading attributed verses from the Koran, turned me from a compliant liberal, into a horrified liberal. Ever since, I take every opportunity to educate people about the horrors of Islam and the Koran; however, I take immense care never to come across as a 'hater'.

This new campaign will educate people. Out in the open, where people are able to absorb the message free of Muslim obfuscation, it will capture the minds of Muslims and non-Muslims alike, little by little, like it or not.

Good luck Robert, and friends; I think of all your initiatives, this will prove the most powerful yet.

Danny, like all Muslims, hates it when the truth comes out, he knows these violent quotes from the Quran are authentic, & Muslims act on them every day. Don't you have a Muslim riot to go to Danny? I wouldn't want you to feel left out.