DC: Free speech victory for AFDI -- against all odds

Congratulations, Pamela and Robert!

I just punched the sky on reading this. Great work guys !!!

This is amazing news and thank God for our constitution. I hear things all the time which are contrary to what I believe but I know that the person saying such things have that intrinsic right. This is part of being in America and being an American. If people have a problem with it then show them the door.

Certainly someone can refrain from using language/ speech that could insult someone but it is completely un-american to then say that such a person could not as a rule of law not say such things. It is an individual's choice...

The kumbaya brigades have launched a counter offensive:

http://sheikyermami.com/2012/10/05/jihad-for-love-mountains-of-skulls-around-the-world-beg-to-differ/

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/10/05/meet-the-rabbis-who-would-have-campaigned-for-hitler-in-germany-back-in-the-day/

Great Job Pamela, Robert and TMLC! One victory at a time.

Robert, Pamela,

I did offer prayers for this. I thank the Lord for this answer. (BTW, my Lord is not "Allah.")

Danny,

Say something, for allah sake!

Don't just stand there like a petrified baboon!

Can't you see you may be missing a chance to deliver an idiocy surpassing the combined idiocy of all idiocies you have delivered until now!

Come on, dunce! Let us hear the Mother of All Idiocies!

Thank you, Robert and Pamela, for your courage and persistence in the battle for free speech.

I love the First Amendment as much as I despise Islam.

Thumbs up for the freedom fighters...

Truly, this is encouraging news. Thank you, Robert and Pamela. May the Lord of All Living continue to bless your efforts.

What else could she do? Her anti-American rant and imbecilic behavior has been recorded and noted on the internet for all time, and her shame will live forever. However, the only thing she could do was bow before the Constitution and the People. If she had any clue whatsoever as to her position in history to come, she would issue a full public apology for her behavior and an acknowledgement of how wrongheaded she was.

Judge Collyer should think of it like this - just doing my job for freedom!!

On looking at the alternative - where rights and freedoms are in scarce supply - should help her to feel better - about it all.

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These guys go after liberties one at a time.

What next - will be not allowed - because we are too afraid?

There is a grand effort to protect 'Islam' - which says nothing of the rights of Muslims in the Islamic world - where fear of attack by fellow Muslims - for doing what is deemed forbidden - is personified.

Yet Muslims have the bright idea - that we should live like this too.

Thank god for the Constitution - it is the rock that can be stood on - to fight these delusion demons.

Excellent news, keep fighting; the giant of paper is going down. One nail at a time and soon the coffin of islam will be sealed... forever.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html

Great news. Congratulations!

In the battle between the civilised man, and the savage in Nigeria, support the civilised man.

Speak out and oppose Jihad!!

Boko Haram News- The Boko Haram sect who claimed responsibility of the recent attacks of five churches in the North, killing 100 worshippers including little children, have reveal their motive behind the attacks.

According to a letter by the sect spokesman, Abu Qaqa" "Today Almighty Allah has given us victory against Christian Churches in Kaduna and Zaria which led to the deaths of many Christians and security operatives.

For peace to reign in the land, all Christians must convert to Islam. Allah has tasked all Muslims in Quran chapter 9 verse 29 to continue to attack Jews and Christians who refused to believe in him and his messenger, Prophet Mohammed".

Sourced by NG news

they seem to understand the verse in a literal way, as if it were the direct immutable words of a Deity or something.

"Let them know that now it's the time for revenge God willing," the group said in a statement.

"From now on, they either follow the right religion or there will be no peace for them."

Submit, or face the continuation of the Jihad

sourced by CNN

The group has said it wants to impose Islamic sharia law across the oil-rich country split equally between Christians and Muslims.

"We are certain we will dismantle this government and establish Islamic government in Nigeria," Abu Qaqa said.

"There is no doubt in our minds we will emerge victorious.

"We are calling on all Muslims in this part of the world to accept the clarion call and fight for the restoration of the Caliphate."

The Sokoto Caliphate was one of the most destructive, and bloody, Islamist movements in Africa.

Sourced by al-jazeera

everything is permissible, if it is in furtherance of an Islamic objective

"The pastors alongside one Ibo man were asked to change their faith to Islam like they did to other people taken as hostages. And there was an argument by one of the pastors which gave the others some level of confidence to also resist accepting Islam.

"The Yusufiya men who were armed on that Tuesday afternoon were not comfortable with the pastors and they took one of them to the sect leader in his inner chamber. They came out later to the courtyard within the compound and cut their heads one after the other and thereafter, shouted allah akbar in wild celebration accompanied with several gun shots," the eye witness disclosed.

Corroborating the account of the killing, a Senior pastor with Good News Church, Wulari Maiduguri Rev. Baba Gata Ibrahim told Daily Sun in an interview that a pastor in his church, Pastor George Orjih was beheaded on the instruction of the Boko Haram leader because the clergy man refused to accept Islam.

The late Pastor George Orjih was said to have arrived Maiduguri last week from Jos where he was doing his Masters programme in Theology. Described as a fearless, hardworking, and intellectually sound, his care for the welfare and well being of his family allegedly contributed to his capture and eventual death. "He was mindful of his family and their welfare. He was really out of the house but thought to go back again. That was how he was captured by the Boko Haram before he was killed,'' the senior pastor added.

"An eye witness who was also captured by the Islamic militants gave us details of how the pastor was killed. He told us they were persuading him to accept Islam and he said over his dead body. He was even said to have preached Christ to Mohammed Yusuf and that reportedly angered the sect leader who then as he ordered that the pastor and others be killed immediately," he disclosed.

Christians have the G*d given right to turn the other cheek, and Nigerian Muslims have the 'allah' given right to slaughter them wherever they find them. It's in the Quran! (9;5)

That's what multiculturalism is all about. (right?)

One culture, no better than the other. Living side by side, each practicing their particular system of beliefs.

You're (Christian and Jewish religious leaders) not one of those people (neo-con/RWNJ) who think that there is a difference between living peaceably with your neighbor, and killing them are you?

What do you call those people?

sensible?

Moral?

Humanists?

silent on more

If we, free people, do not speak out for those trodden under the foot of theocratic tyranny, no one will.

In the battle between the civilised man and the savage in the Sudan, support the civilised man. Oppose jihad and help end slavery.

African-American leaders mobilize to help

SOME say it's genocide, others say it's religious persecution, still others say it's all about money and oil.Whatever it's about, the reported existence of the buying and selling of human beings in Sudan--Africa's largest and poorest country--in the 21st century has triggered an international furor and is fueling a mushrooming movement of protest by African-American leaders and celebrities.According to reports, thousands of Sudanese Blacks are being sold for from $10 to $100, and villages and communities in southern Sudan are being plundered.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_10_56/ai_76770615/

THE Global African Civil Society Organisations (GACSO) on Tuesday urged the African Union to use its upcoming conference in Accra as a platform to end black slavery in Arab lands before the Continent embarks on the “United States of Africa” agenda.

http://ghanaculture.gov.gh/index1.php/10/privatecontent/File/CISP%20Ghana/privatecontent/File/swf/index1.php?linkid=65&archiveid=678&page=1&adate=27/06/2007

Darfur slaughter rooted in Arab-African slavery
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001970382_slavery02.html

ARAB MASTERS-BLACK SLAVES
http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/2252001.htm

Slavery is part of the jihad (the booty), it is also part of the open U.N. record.

Sudan. On 23 March 1999 he was twice stopped on a ‘point of order’ by the delegation of Sudan before he could ask a key question on genocidal character of the war in Sudan” In 1992, the regime in Khartoum declared Jihad in Khartoum against the people of southern Sudan and the Nuba mountains. Since then, Jihad has been declared again and again.

I ask this very important question: is the Jihad a religious right of those who declare and wage it or is it a violation of the human rights of the people against whom it is declared and waged?] (21)

[A day later the former Sudanese Prime Minister Al-Sadiq Al-Mahdi sent his letter to Mary Robinson, in which he referred to Jihad and slavery in Sudan – his letter was widely circulated at the Commission. Under the title, War Crimes, he asked (his 5th question): “Is it legitimate for the ruling regime in an Islamic State to call for a JIHAD against its citizens, be they Muslims or Christians?” He concluded by writing that: although no one would justify slavery today, under shar’ia, “the traditional concept of JIHAD does allow slavery as a by-product.”]

http://counterjihadeuropa.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/littman-brussels-final-03-nov-07.pdf

The real tragedy is that a Judge had to be dragged kicking and screaming to uphold the 1st Amendment .

Collery sure doesn't mind picking up that big paycheck funded by tax payers, BUT, seems to have disdian and contempt for part of the Constitution they don't agree with.
Lets see then go live in one of the utopic islamic hell holes where they wouldn't allow a female judge to start with.

In the battle between women, and the utter savages who rape women with theoretically sanctioned sexual abuse. Support women. Say no to theoretically sanctioned rape.

This is just to place this in the context of the here (Syria) and now.

In the battle for womens rights.

The right, not to be classified as "Booty" or a sex slave, for the savage Jihadists who oppose this, support a womens inalienable rights not to be raped.

Oppose jihad in it's supremest manifestations. Speak out, don't remain silent.

At some point in Islamic theocratic concepts it's possible for a non-Muslim woman to become the "property" or "Booty" of the group who took her, if justified by claims of Jihad (2:190)

"whom your right hand possesses"

in a theocratic sense, as explained in (Quran 4;24) as well as (23;5-6) (24;33) and a few others. In the reliance of the traveller (a guide to sharia law) it says

http://www.nku.edu/~kenneyr/Islam/Reliance.html

@O9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled

And this is in no way ancient history

This is ongoing in Syria right now. Also look up the Bangladesh genocide and the rape camps set up by Pakistan where an estimated 400,000 women were systematically raped.

There also appears to be a cultural clash between non-Arab Muslims from Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Balkans and Chechnya on the one hand, and Arabs from Syria, Libya, Tunisia and Jordan on the other, over the exploitation of sex slaves.

Some Islamists consider these women to be spoils of war, especially the wives and daughters of regime supporters,

"Booty", sex slaves of the jihadist, who possess them with his "right hand"

but local fighters are more apprehensive about the issue. Dozens of women have reportedly been sexually assaulted.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/12796/

In the battle between women, and the utter savages who rape women with theoretically sanctioned sexual abuse. Support women. Say no to theoretically sanctioned rape.

This is just to place this in the context of the here (Syria) and now.

In the battle for womens rights.

The right, not to be classified as "Booty" or a sex slave, for the savage Jihadists who oppose this, support a womens inalienable rights not to be raped.

Oppose jihad in it's supremest manifestations. Speak out, don't remain silent.

At some point in Islamic theocratic concepts it's possible for a non-Muslim woman to become the "property" or "Booty" of the group who took her, if justified by claims of Jihad (2:190)

"whom your right hand possesses"

in a theocratic sense, as explained in (Quran 4;24) as well as (23;5-6) (24;33) and a few others. In the reliance of the traveller (a guide to sharia law) it says

http://www.nku.edu/~kenneyr/Islam/Reliance.html

@O9.13 When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman's previous marriage is immediately annulled

And this is in no way ancient history

This is ongoing in Syria right now. Also look up the Bangladesh genocide and the rape camps set up by Pakistan where an estimated 400,000 women were systematically raped.

There also appears to be a cultural clash between non-Arab Muslims from Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Balkans and Chechnya on the one hand, and Arabs from Syria, Libya, Tunisia and Jordan on the other, over the exploitation of sex slaves.

Some Islamists consider these women to be spoils of war, especially the wives and daughters of regime supporters,

"Booty", sex slaves of the jihadist, who possess them with his "right hand"

but local fighters are more apprehensive about the issue. Dozens of women have reportedly been sexually assaulted.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/12796/

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

Every once in a while, a D.C. court follows the rule of civil law.

I make this statement as a lifelong resident of the D.C. area.

I'll be watching for the ads!

Pam's pen is mightier than mo's sword!, kudos to her and the Knightly Robert Spencer, America owes you more than she knows.

Great work protecting freedom of speech. Your leadership is critical in this fight against jihad. One thought- let us also resist those who would like to criminalize burning of the American Flag. I hate to see the flag burned or desecrated by anyone, but I believe that protecting my feelings or the feelings of others is too much to pay for weakening the First Amendment. Burning a flag, or burning a copy of the Quran, or openly questioning the beliefs of others, represent valid forms of the exercise of freedom of speech. The expectation is that civilized people, who may be offended, will exercise self-control.

Wow!

Good guys win one!

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I'm glad the First Amendment was upheld. But, as long as we have judges eager to find a right to not be offended in the "penumbras" of the Constitution (Did James Madison and Gouverneur Morris even know what "penumbra" means?), we're going to have to remain vigilant.

Bravo Ms Geller and Richard! You guys put up one heckofa fight and prevailed over a sadly misguided judge who miraculously came to her senses. J Geheran

Congratulations, Pamela and Robert! Well done!

Jacob Mchangamas article about the recent statement from EU ( http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/EN/foraff/132512.pdf )

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443768804578034331419449540.html

Any views on this petition?:
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/brusselsconference/2012-brussels-declaration/

Thank God and Congratulations!

One more win among many for freedom lovers …

You people … are great …

News like that gives me hope when hope is rare these days .

Awesome!

I had a feeling Collyer would do this. Not sure why. Maybe because she was being sort of hostile to the AFDI side of the matter, but then said she wouldn't rule on it that day.

this is the first victory. hopefully many more may come in!

the biggest one will be to bring the PC people to reality and prepare them to challenge the barbarians.

I want to send a HUGE CONGRATULATIONS! to Pamela and Robert.

Thank you soooooooo much! to all who worked and contributed for one of the greatest causes of our times. May the Lord continue to bless you all.

Robert, I hope you are reading this.

Since I am not old here, I don't know if you've covered this one.

It strucked me about an issue before regarding the Philippine flag.

To get to the point, a few years ago, some legislators proposed adding the Islamic crescent in the flag to represent the Muslim peoples

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ph!.html

Very ridiculous especially that the current Philippine flag nor the past flags represented a religion. We don't see any cross in the Philippine flag. More so, the influential Catholic church did not even propose to have a cross in the flag. The Philippine flag also do not represent an ethnic group. It mostly represents GEOGRAPHICAL divisions. Not ethnic, not religious

Maybe all the previous bruhaha was simply the "judge" covering her all important political ass.

YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, yeah, baby!!!!!!

What can I say but Hip Hip Horray!!!

Threatening violence or using actual violence to get someone to give up his property or rights is extortion. Fortunately the Judge ruled against the WMATA giving in to extortion, particularly as it wasn't the WMATA's own interests they were giving up..

CONGRATULATIONS.
A well deserved victory.
USA will not go the Europe way because of people like you and Pamela.
Bravo

It does not surprise me that Judge Collyer ruled the way she did.

I was not in the courtroom for this hearing but I've been in many other similar hearings. It has often been my experience that a judge will be harder on me than my opponent and then rule in my favor. The rationale for such treatment is often that the court may have an initial impression of what the decision should be but wants to make sure that all contrary arguments are fully explored.

Those of us who oppose jihad must nevertheless understand that there are many well-meaning people, who, for example, are genuinely concerned about the safety of our troops, and are gravely concerned that someone burning a Qur'an or printing a cartoon of Muhamed might lead to physical harm coming to them. It is vital to understand that this argument, namely that the exercise of unrestricted free speech may cause harm to come to others is very seductive to those who are not First Amendment scholars. To those whose sum total of knowledge about the First Amendment is that you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, supporting the right of Pastor Jones in the face of the threat that his behavior might have posed to our troops appears heartless.

The seductiveness of this argument can not be underestimated as was obvious in Pamela's recounting of how the argument went at the injunction hearing.

I believe that rather than continuing to excoriate this judge, we should congratulate her because although she found herself being seduced by the "harm might come to others" argument, ultimately, this judge came down on the side of the rule of law. This is precisely the kind of judges we want; those that will put the law ahead of their personal feelings. That she was able to do so is to her credit, not something to be mocked.

Oh my Allah !!!!! Have none of you stopped to consider how upset Allah is going to be ? Expect outbreaks of famine and pestilence. Perhaps the Sun will not appear tomorrow.

That is wonderful news!

I imagine Collyer's forthcoming "opinion" will be full of sour grapes about how grudgingly she upheld the first amendment even though she sees AFDI's ads as "hate speech."

I also imagine there are people sympathetic to her opinion who will cluck and pat her shoulder as if she's been through quite an ordeal, commending her for making a tough choice... as if doing her job is something extraordinary.

No, it's Pamela and Robert who are to be thanked. They voluntarily take on all this work at tremendous cost to the quality and safety of their own lives, proving themselves to be ten times the public servants that Collyer could ever be.

Thanks to these ads and the legal battles being fought and won to ensure their protection, Islamist attempts to subvert our freedom of speech have suffered a significant setback, and some of the damage that four more years of Obama might do has been lessened as well. AFDI and SIOA just bought America some much-needed time to wake up.

"In case you have not visited this site before, you will also discover frequent ESL participation, grammar, spelling
and awkward syntax give us away, faculty(factualy).

In the end, Judge Collyer discovered she couldn't circumvent the First Amendment, much as she might have wanted to.
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Excellent.

Kudos to Pamela Geller and all those who have defended our First Amendment rights through the years, until even this judge was unable to ignore the legacy of strong precedents.