Hillary Clinton on Muhammad filmmaker: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted"

The father of a U.S. military man heard her say this. We now know that when she made this stunning statement about destroying the freedom of speech, she already knew that the Muhammad video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack, and that it was actually a planned action by Islamic jihadists.

If Obama is reelected, the First Amendment is not long for this world.

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Finally, as of today (as of this moment, really, as I've tried to sign in many times for however many days it's been), I am able to post.

Thank you for the fix, however temporary this phase of it may be.

And as always: Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

The administration was just lucky in that the producer of the film was on probation and arguably violated his conditions of probation. US law is clear that that making such a video is permissible. I doubt very much that Obama will attempt to amend the Constitution to change that if he is re-elected, or that he will succeed. Hilary Clinton's attitude is unfortunate, but threat to freedom of expression is probably not great.

A quick note to those who find difficulty posting, and double, triple posting!

Tick the box for 'Remember me' when you check in to JW. That solved the problem for me.

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President Obama says:

"This election is a matter of trust"

exactly... I don't trust you.

The father a former navy seal Tyrone Woods:

"When the President -- he came over to our little area, you know, I could tell he kind of mumbled, you know - I'm sorry.

His face was looking at me but his eyes were looking over my shoulder, like he could not look me in the eye and it was not a sincere, you know “I'm really sorry you know that your son died”, BUT IT WAS TOTALLY INSINCERE, you know more of a whining type you “I’m sorry” and it was like shaking hands with a dead fish you kmow?

YOU KNOW IT JUST DIDN’T FEEL RIGHT.

And now it's coming out that apparently, that the White House situation room were watching our people die. In real time this was happening.

And that it I haven't called any of these shows or anything but when I heard that this morning this is something I would really (want into) and I hope that the public does not forget that as well.

Well this is what Hillary did, she came over and you know she did the same thing. I gave her a hug shook her hand.

SHE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ONE BIT SINCERE AT ALL.

And you know she mentioned that thing about, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PERSON ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED, THAT DID THE VIDEO. That was the first time I’d even heard of it or anything like it.

And you know apparently even the State Department had live streams and there were aware of the calls for help.

This was my son he wasn’t even there he was in a safe house about a mile away he got the distress call. And he heard them crying for help that's why he and Glen risked their lives to go that extra mile, just to take care of that particular situation. And I'm sure he wasn't the only one that heard that distress call you know - “come save our lives.”

You know I'm sure that other people in the military and the State Department and the White House would have received that same call the he would have received. Six one a/c? he would have been home.

Er and you know it's, it's not a matter honouring him or anyone and its not a matter of being mad at anyone either but just what’s coming out right now its kind of that whole feeling that I got about -- when it happening stop that We're not until the troops something fishy as well capital -- this just doesn't happen.

And that all the information coming out. You know, videos being -- stream calls for help being sent to the White House Station whatever that is, you know we the it's just we need to make sure that this does not happen again so that you know people like (trine?) who are out there, you know the principle - that men and women out there, the people who are willing to sacrifice their lives - THAT THEY WON'T BE ABANDONED BY THE COMMANDER AND CHIEF."

Hi, Buraq.

The "Remember Me" feature didn't work for me, nor did the "Go Back" button from the "error message" page. I had to use the browser "back arrow" button (over a few clicks) to return to Typepad.

If not, click again, but you'll find, as often as not, that your post is already there. This works for me.

Yes--or "Refresh" the open page.

Thanks.

Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

There are many ways to silence freedom of Speech.

You are right Obama will not try to amend the constitution, he doesn't need to. He will just by-pass it like he has always done.

They cannot arrest him for making the Film, but they arrest him for parole violations. Most people on parole will have breached their conditions in some way or the other. They were out to get him.

This was clear from Hillary Clinton's statement: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PERSON ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED, THAT DID THE VIDEO. This is a government witch hunt.

Make a film on Muhammad and they will find some reason to arrest you.

What has happened to that guy, one doesn't know.

"We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted".
She means Hussein of course....
And turn yourself in as well Hilarious.

Hillary Clinton doesn't need a costume for halloween - she is already a caricature of herself. Obama is an automated quotation machine possessing taranchula like poisonous charm...

And doesn't Hillary Clinton already know that Muhammad was a murderous psychopath and a child molesting rapist?

We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy rightly despise the cruel cult of Mohammedanism.

Islam is no "Religion of Peace." Islam is primarily a religion of "injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence." The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur'an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur'an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone.

Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."

I could do without the 30 second fucking Goldman Sachs ad.

As we used to say in the Navy this is a clusterfuck of the first order. It's unbelievable that all the other networks are absolutely MUTE!

Less of the Tokyo Rose talk, please Robert.

Obama is going to lose, and lose big. The election will not be close, I repeat, it will not be close. Bathhouse Barry is finished. This election is going to be epic - watching the states pile up in the Romney column, while simultaneously watching Chris Matthews meltdown live on air on MSNBC, will be a joy to behold. I anticipate he will be rocking in the corner, facing the wall while sucking his thumb, whimpering, and soiling himself. That's how big a loss this will be.

The leftists will not know what hit them, and they will go to war with each other starting Nov 7 to purge the party of everything and everyone to do with Obama. And the Clintons will be back in charge. Hilary will run in '16, but she won't win.

"Obama is going to lose, and lose big. The election will not be close.."

Wishful thinking johnmatt. You seen the electoral college votes?

Although Americans probably can't have that person arrested and prosecuted they still can vote him out of office in the oncoming presidential elections.

Hillary is a lawyer, and should know better. This administration is going to trigger a civil war, if it keeps going down this road. Clearly, "shaming" Koran-burners is not enough for her. And, "supporting and defending the Constitution" has no meaning for her either.

Hillary has had years of da'wa from Huma...and it shows...

"This administration is going to trigger a civil war, if it keeps going down this road."

As terrible as it sounds it is not the worst possible scenario.
A worse one would be that this, or the next, administration(s) does nothing to stop and reverse the moslem immigration until it is too late for the civil war to happen.

I hold it entirely possible that the lesbian Willary converted to Islam due to Huma Abedin's 'Svengali-like powers'.

Her close, all too close association with Huma and her mother, her multiple travels to Sowdi Barbaria and her efforts to endear herself to MuBro causes are deeply concerning.

Willary Clitman's treachery stinks to high heaven.

There is another scenario, admittedly improbable but not impossible i.e. a military coup d'etat, by people who are both islam haters, have access to "raw power" and are willing to face the consequences should the coup fail.

Coup d'etat, unlike civil war, CAN be bloodless and is always less bloody than civil war. I would support it wholeheartedly if the other alternative were a civil war

I am not sure if it is possible in the US. But assuming that it could happen in the US, would you, my American friends, support it?

Here is an article defending the movie Innocence of Muslims, that criticizes Hillary Clinton. http://muhammad.medianewsonline.com/innocence.htm

I am an Australian. I was born in Holland. In 1955. Before all the hospitals in Holland were rebuilt after the unutterable nightmare of WWII. M birthplace was absolutely decimated by the Nazi horror machine - and the piss weak 'government' that capitulated to this self-same horror. Geert Wilders, anyone? So, in a manner of speaking, I was (literally) born in a tent.

My mother was utterly devoted to me. No way was I going through the shit that she experienced in that marvelous wonderland called 'open-minded' and disgustingly liberal Holland, which effing appeased Hitler and allowed his nightmare to become daily life in her homeland.

Having seen, first hand, what evil does to young girls, and having seen how retribution for that evil was handed out - without a backward glance - by shooting any collaborator in the head, forthwith, my mother taught me this much: OH! how my dear, beloved late mother loved those American soldiers, their mighty courage and their tanks, God Bless Them, even today! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. (I weep, literally, when I hear those personal stories of hardened soldiers weeping when they hear or see what really happened). They were an absolute Godsend, so God bless America.

But, hey, when the Secretary of State of the United States of America actually lies to (her) own people about what really happened to a high-ranking, diplomatic representative member of the United States of America, on foreign soil, in which that representative is horrifically murdered in cold blood, then this lie is, in itself, an act of war against the Secretary of State! My mother, an exceedingly tough but gentle Dutch immigrant to Australia, would not have hesitated in shooting Clinton in the head. Why? Because collaborators with the enemy cost thousands upon f!#%$#!g thousands of amazing, decent lives and destroyed the will of the people to fight against the horrific evil that was being thrust upon them by an invading army. This was, and still is, a REALITY! It IS the real thing. Your American grandfathers lived through it. They died in their tens of thousands to save a Europe that hates them today!

You, the people of the United States of America, have witnessed an act of war against your country! World War 1 was started for no less an excuse! What are you doing? Allowing a hopelessly and thoroughly narcissistic bitch, whose whoring, totally amoral husband WAS a President of YOUR United States of America, for eight effing, miserable nightmarish years that led to Kosovo becoming the white, female European/Russian sex-slave capital of 'Europe', and especially within the heart of the EU i.e. Belgium, (amongst other wonderful, financially destructive achievements) whose only REAL ambition is to be YOUR next President, tell YOU what is and isn't 'the truth' is tantamount to betraying your own cause. GROW UP!

They were an absolute Godsend, so God bless America.

A million times! (if He can find her today)

Allowing a hopelessly and thoroughly narcissistic bitch, ... whose only REAL ambition is to be YOUR next President, tell YOU what is and isn't 'the truth' is tantamount to betraying your own cause.

More than that. The bitch is not only telling the American what is "the truth", but what is, or should be, their "own cause".

Good Lord. Madness has descended upon the West.


Funny
They didn't want to rush to judgment on terror attack but she has no problem rushing to judgment on this guys freedom of speech !

Exactly what is she going to prosecute him for ???

She had better watch herself, the unhealthy food guys will get her ! Too many chocolate bars ??

Rich,

The job of the leftist MSM is to convince YOU that Romney can't win, that it's all hopeless, and you should stay home on election day if you know what's good for you. Evidently, with you, they've succeeded.

Do you remember Baghdad Bob during the Gulf War: "the Americans are nowhere near Baghdad, and they never will be." Over his shoulder, you could see M1 Abrams tanks rolling through the streets. This is exactly what is going on now, and you've fallen for it, just like they wanted you to. Obama knows he's going to lose, so does Michelle, so does Soros.

Just make sure you go out and vote Republican. If you're not going to do that, please take your election fear-porn elsewhere.

In answer to your original question, yes I have. My answer is: "so what?" the election isn't over until the end of November 6th, and Romney will win it. You watch...

But assuming that it could happen in the US, would you, my American friends, support it? ...

Thomas_h. No. We have a Constitutional process. There is an orderly way to get the change we need and that is the ballot box.

My mother, an exceedingly tough but gentle Dutch immigrant to Australia, would not have hesitated in shooting Clinton in the head....

natha. Now now. We don't want or need to murder anyone. That would be evil. No? Murder is evil. For christ's sake, she is just a civil servant.

So guys, we will get a new prez and a new sec state on Nov. 6 if and only if the voters so wish. That is our process. Not assassination and not coup or civil war.

nabi ZK (pbum)

I've been watching this develop since the spring of 2009. Obama had Ekmeliddin Inogoshu, Sec. Gen. of OIC for lunch at White House. We have been assisting the OIC in their efforts to pass 'hate speec/defamation of religionm laws' at the UN. It's ruse of course...their real target has always bee the First Amendment of US. Just a few months ago Hillary had a cozy conference with the OIC to eplore ways....She made a public statement that we have to SHAME people who offend religiion.

I don't know what it is with these liberals and the muslims. But the is a strong connection there!! And...they're willing to sell out our freedoms to get closer to the islamic world.

What they're doing is weakening America and gaining CONTEMPT from the muslim world.

People like Hillary, Barack, Janet Napoletano her sycophant assistant, Stockton, are dangerous to OUR REPUBLIC. They need to be removed from government and be sent back to some obscure university and write books which no one will read.

We need leaders who take this video episode and broadcast to the world that this is precisely what freedom of speech is all about. If the islamic world has a problem then it's their problem not our problem. They need to evolve into the twenty-first century or get left behind to live as troglodytes in their miserable squalor.

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The Cyclling Tuscan

johnmatt I can unfortunately not vote in America as I'm a kiwi, but could I have voted I would certainly have voted Romney. I'm just a realist, I think Romney can win, and I hope he will win, but the election will be close.

If the US elections were decided by votes made in NZ, Obama would win hands down. He is still very popular over here, we are a gullible lot.

johnmatt I can unfortunately not vote in America as I'm a kiwi, but could I have voted I would certainly have voted Romney. I'm just a realist, I think Romney can win, and I hope he will win, but the election will be close.

If the US elections were decided by votes made in NZ, Obama would win hands down. He is still very popular over here, we are a gullible lot.

Thomas_h. No. We have a Constitutional process. There is an orderly way to get the change we need and that is the ballot box.

zonie kafir,
Constitutional process is a tool, an instrument to be used by those who are alert, committed and have clear vision, skill and courage to use it. In absence of these things the constitutional process guarantees absolutely nothing.
The Left corrupts everything it touches including the "Constitutional Process", so in a very short time it can claim and get away with it that it means something different from what you have always believed it means.
Look at the Western Europe. There is not a single country here that doesn't have a democratic Constitution. Somehow it has not prevented their socialist (and conservative) governments from flooding the country with muhammadans and effectively muzzle and put out of action the patriotic opposition.
Yes, constitution is fine, but it is people's will to use it in defence of freedom that counts infinitely more.

Well, I sincerely, sincerely, sincerely hope you're right, Johnmatt. Even in my deep, deep indigo corner of this great land, I will vote the Republican ticket--unless Romney is proven a cannibal, child molester, wife beater, and embezzler before Nov. 6. But this isn't the USA in which I grew up anymore. My High School class ('71) is now running things, and I'm not sure that's all for the best.


Doing the same thing over and over and over, results in the same outcome over and over and over again.

The United States has been kissing Islams ars since 1759. So Islam believes the United States is made up of submissive ignorant weak cowards, whom believe money can buy them exceptance.

Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama should be charged with treason, as they are clearly most concerned with appeasing Islam.

They have even ordered the Justice Department to punish anyone that speaks negatively about Islam. Of course saying the same about Christians Jews, and the United States is not only exceptable, it is encouraged.

This is nothing short of treason. I'm shocked that knowbody in the administration has been charged with treason. Mean while Islam goes inside and outside kaffir borders.....


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Hillary Clinton on Muhammad filmmaker: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted"
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An appalling violation of the guaranteed freedoms of the First Amendment. We have to fight this!

Thomas H wrote:

There is another scenario, admittedly improbable but not impossible i.e. a military coup d'etat, by people who are both islam haters, have access to "raw power" and are willing to face the consequences should the coup fail.

Coup d'etat, unlike civil war, CAN be bloodless and is always less bloody than civil war. I would support it wholeheartedly if the other alternative were a civil war

I am not sure if it is possible in the US. But assuming that it could happen in the US, would you, my American friends, support it?
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I'm not sure I know where to start, Thomas.

One of the greatest strengths of the United States is that she *does not* have a history of coup d'etats.

I agree that this administration is both miserable and dangerous, but that is what the ballot box is for.

Personally, I believe a coup d'etat would—generally speaking—cause even more damage than *four more years* of the "anointed one".

That does not mean I would never, under any circumstances, support a coup d'etat—but we'd have to be much further down the road to fascism that we are. Why? Because a coup d'etat would *in and of itself* do so much damage.

Do you believe only staunch patriots would be likely to attempt such a coup? As a rule, it is more likely to be the forces of tyranny than than the forces of freedom who would use such undemocratic means.

Secondly, do you really believe that the American military is poised to pull off such a coup, and for the reasons you cite?

For one thing, much as I respect our men and women in uniform, many—at least at high-ranking levels—seem as clueless as politicians as to the root cause of the Jihad threat.

So, I neither consider a coup d'etat to be either likely or desirable. When you look at the history of such events, they are far more likely to usher in an *even worse tyranny* than they are to re-establish democracy.

johnmatt wrote:

Less of the Tokyo Rose talk, please Robert.
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"Tokyo Rose"? John, do you really believe that Robert Spencer, *of all people,* is a traitor to his country and a shill for fascism?

I presume you mean that you wish he were more optimistic re this election. I'm not sure whether your sunny vision is likely or not—certainly, the polls do not bear it out.

Still, I would like to be proven wrong. Personally, I believe that Romney does have a chance, although a fairly slight one. That means everybody needs to get out and vote—especially in swing states like Ohio.

But your calumny of Mr. Spencer is appalling, and utterly baseless.

Did you really write: "The United States has been kissing Islams ars since 1759."???

1759??? !!!

The United States as an independent nation and sovereign entity didn't *exist* in 1759.

Did you mean '1979' and write '1759' instead? Or had you some other date in mind?

vnbushman wrote:

The United States has been kissing Islams ars since 1759.
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Hardly.

In fact, we were the first country to fight back against the Muslim Barbary Pirates in the late 18th and early 19th centuries.

Our actions lit a fire under Britain and France, who had long been paying enormous "tribute" to the Muslim states of north Africa to leave their ships unmolested. Despite the huge amounts of treasure the countries of Europe spent, this did not always work, in any case.

There are horrible stories of European ships being pirated, and their luckless crews sold into slavery. The case of Thomas Pellow is one famous story. JW poster Thomas Pellow uses his name).

But shortly after our young republic stood up to these vile thugs, so did the English and the French. By the early years of the 19th century, the Mediterranean Sea was once more a body of water that could be freely plied by the ships of any nation—a state of affairs that hadn't existed since the rise of Islam in the 7th century.

But then we went back to sleep. We had very few dealings with militant Islam from that time until the 1979 Iranian Hostage Crisis—which test we failed miserably.

Even if we had understood nothing about Islam—which we didn't—it should have been obvious to anyone that this kind of appeasement would just embolden *any* enemy.

Then, one of our few tough presidents in the period since—Ronald Reagan—didn't rise to the challenge, either. While he very well understood the threat of Communism and the former threat of Fascism, he didn't appear to recognize Jihad as an organized threat, and so didn't respond as he should have to horrors like the Jihad bombings of the Marine barracks in 1983.

The only president since then to really respond to the Jihad threat has been George W. Bush—and we all know how his efforts were terribly hampered by his essential lack of understanding of the nature of the Jihad threat, and by his woefully misguided attempts at "nation building" in the Muslim world.

Other presidents have been even worse—Clinton unwittingly enabled Jihad in the Balkans, and then we have the current occupant of the White House, whose actions may be considerably more intentional...

Nonetheless, don't count us out yet. The United States has traditionally been slow—often *far too slow*—to anger, but then rises to the task. It took us an appallingly long time to take Fascism seriously, and by that time the world was on fire.

Winston Churchill famously said, "Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." I am not always proud of this—but, historically, I think it is largely correct.

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