#MyJihad ad campaign debunked — using the Qur’an

MyJihadHamza.jpgThat’s Qur’an 8:39, and Abu Hamza, who acted upon it

The deceptive and misleading #MyJihad campaign was born in response to Pamela Geller’s AFDI pro-freedom ad, which says, “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad.” Certainly “jihad” does indeed mean all kinds of struggles, including the struggle for self-improvement, but the purpose of the campaign is to obscure, if not deny outright, the primary meaning that the word has had in Islamic theology and law throughout the history of Islam: warfare against unbelievers in order to bring about their submission to Islamic law.

This campaign is designed to foster complacency among Americans, and to blind them to the fact that Islamic jihadists are committing violence in the name of jihad around the world every day. Somehow the jihadists aren’t getting these #MyJihad memos, that jihad is all about buying a kid ice cream or helping your neighbor mow his lawn.

The Body of Truth debunks the campaign here. And see here for my own jihad.

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  1. says

    Jews and Muslims need not be hostile to one another they both need loving care. Building of Synagogues in Iran and Egypt will go a long way on the golden road to trust and friendship. A Fatwa issued by the Grand Mufti demanding defensive borders for Israel will be sweet music to Jewish ears. The view that Muslims are savages will be gone, Islam will then be seen as a kind and loving religion. Millions of Infidels will accept Allah and his Prophet and join the call to prayer.

  2. says

    In last month there was an incident whereby a film was made to bring controversy in the Muslim world by producing an anti-Islamic movie which resulted in an up roar across the Muslim world today. Algeria has now asked in the United Nations to limit the freedom of expression

    Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/10/04/religion-or-freedom-of-speech-algeria-asks-the-un-to-limit-freedom-of-expression/#ixzz28KXqCWdG

    Youssef

  3. says

    The Arabic word Islam translates to submission, not peace.

    But submission to what?

    To the cruel cult of Mohammedanism, that’s what.

    The meaning of the Islamic texts are perfectly clear. Esoteric interpretations of Qur’anic passages are bullshit. And the sheer brutality of the Hadiths speak for themselves.

    Qur’an, 9:29 (One of the many Qur’anic verses that Islamists have for centuries used to kill and/or subjugate non-Muslims and spread Islam though Jihadist warfare).

    “Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe neither in God nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.”

    Qur’an, 47:4
    “When you meet the unbelievers in the battle field strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until war shall lay down her burdens.
    Thus shall you do. Had God willed, He could Himself have punished them; (but He has ordained it thus) that He might test you, the one by the other.”

    Hadith: Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52, No. 196:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah ‘s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)”

    Hadith: Sahih Muslim No. 4294:

    “When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to 3 courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also except it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya (the Islamic tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” – Muhammad

    Sahih Muslim, No. 4366

    It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) say:”I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

  4. says

    I have noticed a pattern that it is very rare to see a muslim actually carrying a Quran to prove their taqqiyah tales about peace and pluralism.
    Seems to me that they don’t want to be challenged to read the violent verses or calls to kill unbelievers to create one Global caliphate where 7’000’000’000 people are rules by Shariah Law that legalizes pedophilia and homophobia.

  5. says

    I love this debunking of this taqiyya, But, being as persnickety as I am, I wrote to Body of Truth about the incorrect use of “too” in the posters.

  6. says

    You have made good point and reference therein in your post. However, you must understand all these hate spreading by these Islamophopia groups such as Jihadwatch knows very well that the violent jihadi Moslem fanatics are very few in this world, maybe few thousand at the most out of some 1.5 billion Moslems. As a matter of fact I think there are more violent Zionist terrorist in occupied Palestine in the name of settler than the whole violent Moslem Jihad gang or terrorist. Yet they are spreading Islamophobia instead of love among people of different faith.

    I think behind all these Islamophobia spreading machines hides the true Zionist objective of bringing more death, destruction loot, pillage and plunder of the middle-east and nothing else.

    Only the Zionist benefits from divisions and rifts between the regional countries of the middle-east because of her main objective of keeping occupation of Palestine permanent and two state solution on the book only. The racist and violent Zionist program is to obliterate the region for money and greed and permanent occupation of Palestine for the European Jewry AKA Kazari Jews.

    This is the old agenda of Neo-Con Zionist and it is well known among progressive citizens who wants a peaceful world by educating people around the world.

  7. says

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ROMNEY EASILY WINS FIRST DEBATE IN UNANIMOUS DECISION !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mitt Romney, in a salute to his collegiate boxing days, when he was known as “Murderous Mitt”, delivered a lopsided defeat to his opponent, pos Kenyan born muslim POTUS, barry hussein, when the both of them were off camera, by running over and pummeling his opponent with a flurry of lefts and rights.

    Romney stated after the debate, “I just pretended I was legendary boxer, Joe Calzaghe, and the president was a hapless Roy Jones, Jr. I mean, I really wanted to bloody him up!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCKSu_O1LgM&feature=relmfu

  8. says

    Now there’s a “savage” if ever there was one …and wait, the flies will come pouring out of his mouth any moment. He’s so creepy, and that’s actually the best picture I’ve seen of him.

    And what are muslims if not deceptive liars …

  9. says

    Taqiyya, taqiyya, taqiyya…

    These pathological mythomaniacs and scumbags wanna fool and dupe the west into thinking that the word ‘jihad’ is… anything. They think everyone in the west is dumb like them and that all of us are gonna buy into their BS:

    Hey honey, i’m thirsy, i’m going to the kitchen to get some jihad.

    Yesterday, i went to the bathroom and took a jihad.

    This vanilla-jihad ice cream tastes jihadilicious!.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk…. these pedohammedans are so pathetic, they should dissimulate a little bit, they’re too obvious, the taqiyya is too obvious.

  10. says

    These subreptitious pedohammedans wanna pretend they’re the smurfs and jihad is ther smurf language. They sure are mental smurfs!.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smurfs#Language

    This is how far pedohammedans are willing to take their mythomania, they’re a caricature of themselves:

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb58377/smurfs/images/f/f2/Smurfing_In_Smurf.jpg

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb58377/smurfs/images/9/90/What_Are_You_Smurfing_About.jpg

  11. says

    From Pamela Gellers interview at CNN, interviewer Erin Burnett:

    Erin Burnett “But why call a whole religion savages”

    PG “How am I doing that, there is no Islam in the ad and no Muslim in the ad?”

    EB “Ok but the word Jihad actually means struggle and (intel…?) in the Quran you make yourself a better person, it doesn’t mean just going outside and suicide bombing people”

    PG “I beg to differ”

    EB “But that is what the word means it means struggle”

    PG “Actually in the Quran nothing speaks to spiritual struggle its all holy war and Jihadists that are committing Jihad are citing chapter and verse of the Quran while committing Jihad”

    EB “That maybe but I dont think there is anybody in that religion that would be alright with that and masses of Muslims would say that Islam is a religion of peace and love, just as Christians would say or Jews would say”

    So Erin Burnett as millions of others have swallowed this lie hook line and sinker.

    The world doesnt know what Taqqiyya is – they understand lie and deceit.

    Muslims are told to lie and use deceit to spread Islam. Allah himself, its written in the Quran, is the greatest deceiver.

    In Arabic, “jihad” means struggle. In Islam, that is in the Quran and ALL the 100’s of hadiths where this has been referred to, unequivocally it means holy war.

    There is only one weak Hadith which refers to it as a spritual struggle and this has been declared to be a fabrication by Muslim scholars.
    http://www.religioscope.com/info/doc/jihad/azzam_caravan_6_conclusion.htm

    Jihad in the Quran are hostile actions, wars, which Muslims are commanded by Allah, against non-Muslims, specifically with the purpose of converting them to Islam. Converting Non-Believers to Islam is what the Quran refers to as being the “cause of Allah”. Quran 66.1

    In addition the Quran contains the Arabic word qatilu 64 times, which means to wage war. Allah commands ALL Muslims to wage war against the non-Believer and permits them to kill their victims and to seize their possessions and women as captives of war. Muslims are encouraged to have sex, and children, with their captive women without getting married to them.

    This is hardly the message of inner struggle to “better oneself” as EB argues.

    Maybe she needs to be emailed or tweeted to be educated on this.

  12. says

    #MyJihad ad campaign debunked — using the Qur’an
    ………………………

    *Brilliant*.

    Over 90% of the references to Jihad are violent “holy war” against unbelievers. To imply anything else is just blatant bs.

    The few other references almost always involve “being a better Muslim” such as fasting or praying more.

    The idea that Muslims regularly “wage Jihad” in the sense of studying hard at school or clearing trash down at the local creek is just obfuscation to fool the ever credulous Kuffar.

  13. says

    Regrdless of all these Islamophobia and hate spreading machines by the right wing Kazari Zionist…..their objective to permanently occupy Palestine will never become reality. What will happen is ” unnecessary bloodshed and violence and loss of many innocent human being” on this Zionist incited carnage.

    STOP SPREADING HATE….SPREAD LOVE AMONG HUMANITY !

  14. says

    So what if jihad means “inner spiritual struggle”, since you have overwhelming proof that this uniquely mohammedan “spiritual” quest manifests itself regularly in the physical universe quite violently and is a danger to all.
    And for that silent majority of mohammedan “moderates” who are not active, donning the suicide vest, but who hero worship the deeply spiritual osama bin laden, as long as we give them billions and don’t turn our back against them, they’re OK.

  15. says

    Bernard Lewis, eminent historian of Islam and the Middle East, says that in Islam’s core texts, uses of the word “jihad” are military in meaning in the overwhelming majority of cases

    He writes on page 72 of his book The Political Language of Islam, that

    …the overwhelming majority of classical theologians, jurists, and traditionalists [Muslim specialists in the Qur’an, hadiths, life of Muhammad, and Islamic law] … understood the obligation of jihad in a military sense.

    Lewis also writes, on page 31 of his book The Crisis of Islam, that

    For most of the fourteen centuries of recorded Muslim history, jihad was most commonly interpreted to mean armed struggle for the defense or advancement of Muslim power.

    Quoting Islam

  16. says

  17. says

    That picture of Hamza is a prime example of what ‘spiritual inner struggle jihad’ does to a man…Clearly it has been detrimental to his health…Somewhere there is a portrait of him that gets younger looking with each evil deed and thought, while the real deal looks uglier every day…
    Inner struggle jihad has no positive effect…If it did, why does it remain a struggle?

  18. says

    SOME NOTABLE CORE ISLAMIC TEXTS ABOUT THE JEWS

    Muhammad says the earth belongs to Muhammad and Allah, warns the Jews to accept Islam if they wish to be safe, and says he wants to deport them:

    In Sahih Muslim, a canonical hadith collection:

    Book 019, Number 4363:

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said: We were (sitting) in the mosque when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to us and said: (Let us) go to the Jews. We went out with him until we came to them. The Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) stood up and called out to them (saying):
    O ye assembly of Jews, accept Islam (and) you will be safe.

    They said: Abu’l-Qasim[father of Qasim], you have communicated (God’s Message to us). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:

    I want this (i. e. you should admit that God’s Message has been communicated to you), accept Islam and you would be safe.

    They said: Abu’l-Qasim, you have communicated (Allah’s Message). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I want this… – He said to them (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he [Muhammad] added:

    You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land. Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind).

    ********************************

    From page 464 (690 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, Muhammad presides over the beheading of 600 to 900 captive Jews:

    Then [the Banu Qurayza tribe] surrendered, and the apostle [Muhammad] confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, ‘Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!’ This went on until the apostle made an end of them.

    ********************************

    On page 369 (554 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, Muhammad says “kill any Jew who falls into your power”:

    It’s a “charming” story of two brothers, Muhayyissa and Huwayyisa: (To avoid confusing the two brothers, keep in mind that the brother whose name begins with M is the Murderer in the story.)

    “The apostle [Muhammad] said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.Thereupon Muhayyisa bin Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jewish merchant] Huwayyisa began to beat [his brother Muhayyisa], saying, ‘You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?’ Muhayyisa answered, ‘Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.’…[Huwayyisa] replied, ‘By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?’ [Muhayyisa] said, ‘Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.’ [Huwayyisa] exclaimed, “By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!’ and [Huwayyisa] became a Muslim.”

    ********************************

    Muhammad says that one day even the stones will help Muslims to kill Jews.

    From Sahih al-Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection:

    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:

    Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:

    Allah’s Apostle [Muhammad] said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.’ “

    ********************************

    Quoting Islam

  19. says

    I know halloween is coming Robert but let’s move on and get rid of this scumbag’s face. It’s the most godawful thing I’ve ever seen.

  20. says

    A new Subway, Bus and Railway poster that says:-

    ” Lets not forget the Amalekite Nation…the victim of humanity’s first holocaust” Now help, oh humanity to stop another Palestinian holocaust from taking place ”

    Looks like it will be the message of truth.

  21. says

    Chowching’s posts read as a batch of Chinese fortune cookies gone rancid and danny’s posts are so predictably stupid that one might conclude that danny is interested in parody and not Islam, though this one’s a tough call since Islam and parodies of Islam are often indistinguishable.

  22. says

    In the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic) we learn how in Khaybar Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure, then beheaded the man, and how that night Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, Safiya, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed:

    Kinana b. al-Rabi’, who had the custody of the treasure of the B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says “was brought”) to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle [Muhammad] said to Kinana, ‘Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?’ he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle [Muhammad] gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-‘Awwam, ‘Torture him until you extract what he has,’ so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head in revenge for his brother Mahmud. [– page 515 (763-764 in the Arabic)]

    The apostle took captives…among whom was Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab who had been the wife of Kinana b. al-Rabi’ b. Abu’l-Huqayq, and two cousins of hers. The apostle chose Safiya for himself. [– page 511 (758 in the Arabic)]

    When the apostle married Safiya in Khaybar or on the way, she having been beautified and combed, and got in a fit state for the apostle by Umm Sulaym d. Milhan mother of Anas b. Malik, the apostle passed the night with her in a tent of his. Abu Ayyub, Khalid b. Zayd brother of B. al-Najjar passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent until in the morning the apostle saw him and asked him what he meant by his action. He replied, “I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people, and till recently she was in unbelief, so I was afraid for you on her account.’ They allege that the apostle said “O God, preserve Abu Ayyub as he spent the night preserving me.’
    [– page 516-517 (766 in the Arabic)]

  23. says

    @Chowching

    Just remember this site is here because, neo-con Zionist want to smoke screen everything including using American life, money and resources to keep violence to continue in the middle-east. That will be a great pretext to hold down to any hope for a VIABLE Palestinian state. They want long lasting occupation of Palestine.

    Thats all…everything else is nothing but huge smoke screen and lies.

  24. says

    If anyone wants to respond to the troll do it through this post. That way we can speak about his ridiculous ideas without engaging him.

  25. says

    Muhammad, in core Islamic texts, rejects religious pluralism, says Arabia will be ethnically cleansed

    For example, in Sahih Muslim, a canonical hadith collection.

    Book 19, No. 4366
    It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib [second caliph and a companion of Muhammad] that he heard the Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) say:“I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

  26. says

    MUHAMMAD, YOU WITTY DEVIL YOU

    In one core Islamic text, Muhammad says the bell is satanic; in another core Islamic text, he says the Qur’anic inspirations come to him like the ringing of a bell

    From Sahih Muslim, canonical hadith collection
    Book 024, Number 5279:

    Abu Huraira [a companion of Muhammad] reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan.

    BUT WAIT A SECOND…

    Muhammad compares his Koranic inspirations to the ringing of a bell

    In Sahih al-Bukhari, canonical hadith collection:
    Volume 1, Book 1, Number 2:

    Narrated ‘Aisha:[Muhammad’s fave wife]

    (the mother of the faithful believers) Al-Harith bin Hisham asked Allah’s Apostle “O Allah’s Apostle! How is the Divine Inspiration revealed to you?” Allah’s Apostle replied, “Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell, this form of Inspiration is the hardest of all and then this state passes ‘ off after I have grasped what is inspired. Sometimes the Angel comes in the form of a man and talks to me and I grasp whatever he says.” ‘Aisha added: Verily I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the Sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over).

  27. says

    “Abu Hamza to be extradited to US”

    {Excerpt]:-

    “Five suspected terrorists including Abu Hamza al-Masri can be extradited to the US, ending a long legal battle, UK High Court judges have ruled.

    “The radical cleric, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz failed to show ‘new and compelling’ reasons not to send them.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842941

  28. says

    You are a total heid banger Danny; why are you so obsessed by ancient Judaic stories. Are you descended from a long line of Amalekites. Pray tell us are the jihadists influenced by these biblical stories and quote them as justification.Are the Jews still annihilating these people.

  29. says

    danny, your references to Amelekites of thousands of years ago is truly risible. But even if I humor your putridly Jew-hating mind, there are only about 15 million Jews in the world, about 1/100 the number of Muslims, so Jews could not impose Jewish law on the world even if the Jews wanted to, which they don’t. Further, the Jewish religion does not proselytize, and never used the sword to conquer and impose its religious laws on half the Christian world (as Islam did in conquering by the sword North Africa, Spain, and the Middle East in the seventh century, and continuing to attempts at conquest ever since). The jihad goes on all across the globe, including here in the U.S.

    Here is a long list of major public institutions and public figures and the links to news stories that document that those institutions and people are self-censoring in fear of Islamic death threats. So wherever possible, Islam tries to impose Islamic law on non-Muslims. Free speech is not permitted by Islam. Are you up for that, danny? It makes your references to Amelekites of thousands of years ago look utterly foolish.

  30. says

    I don’t mean to be picky, Chowching, however. .your Utopian vision does not really deal with this sticky issue of Mo being ‘the seal of the prophets’.

  31. says

    You wrote: ‘Jews and Muslims need not be hostile to one another ….’

    But Jews and Muslims are not hostile to one another. It’s Islam that’s hostile to Jews and calls for their genocide!

    It’s written in Al Qur’an!

    So, how are you going to deal with that first! Islam is the aggressor, and the Jews are the victims!

    Clown!

  32. says

    The meretricious “chowching” wrote:

    Jews and Muslims need not be hostile to one another they both need loving care. Building of Synagogues in Iran and Egypt will go a long way on the golden road to trust and friendship.
    ……………………………..

    What utter crap. These Muslim countries expelled almost their entire Jewish populations decades ago. Both have a horrifying legacy of murderous antisemitism. Even before the “Arab Spring” installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, they have been enabling Jihad against Israel. As it stands now, Egypt is threatening to attack Israel. And Iran has repeatedly threatened to “wipe Israel off the map”.

    Do you really think anyone here is going to buy the idea that these countries are likely to allow Synagogues to be built there?

    More stupidity:

    A Fatwa issued by the Grand Mufti demanding defensive borders for Israel will be sweet music to Jewish ears. The view that Muslims are savages will be gone, Islam will then be seen as a kind and loving religion. Millions of Infidels will accept Allah and his Prophet and join the call to prayer.
    ……………………………..

    The only part of this fantasy you actually take to heart is the last bit, where millions of foolish Infidels “revert” to Islam.

    But since Muslims will never stop behaving like bloody savages, this whole scenario is damned unlikely.

  33. says

    In true apologist style, danny focuses on people, not ideas, ideas at the root of the problem created by Islam.

    He writes: ‘Jihadwatch knows very well that the violent jihadi Moslem fanatics are very few in this world, maybe few thousand at the most out of some 1.5 billion Moslems.

    Danny, it wouldn’t matter a hoot if there was only one, single, solitary jihadi out there; the problem is that Al Qur’an promotes violent jihad as pleasing Allah!

    And until *that* problem is recognized by governments in the free world and then policies are put into effect to deal with the problems posed by such a violent ideology, we’re vulnerable to the problems it creates.

    You’re a clown, danny!

  34. says

    “the violent jihadi Moslem fanatics are very few in this world, maybe few thousand at the most out of some 1.5 billion Moslems.”

    What a big lie about the “average muslim!” Just look at the roiling muslim mobs screaming for the heads of “unbelievers” worldwide. They absolutely dominate the streets and other public spaces in the muslim world. Muslim mobs have become a problem even in our non-muslim world, and muslims have even occupied parts of our countries and made them into no-go-zones. Muslim crowds at demonstrations chant “Remember Khaybar,oh Jews,” etc.
    So, in actuality, the average muslim, male or female is really a menacing monster fully worthy of deportation to muslim paradise.

  35. says

    buddy,i usually don’t comment here but each time i read your comments you always blame everything on Zionists and the Jews ,either you are hypocrite or too stupid to realize the problem was and will be always with the Muslims who commit violence in the name of their religion .since the foundation of islam ,Muslims invaded other countries to spread islam and gave people there 3 options either to pay jizya and live as second class citizen ,convert or die .my community in Egypt ” Coptic Christians ” have and still been persecuted since Arab Muslims invaded Egypt and that was long ago before the Zionist movement even existed ,the same goes for Hindus,Sikh ,Christians in Ethiopia and Nigeria …..etc , I hope the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will end soon and we will see if Muslims will stop the violence , the persecution of women and nonmuslims but i bet my life it will never happen

  36. says

    “the violent jihadi Moslem fanatics are very few in this world, maybe few thousand at the most out of some 1.5 billion Moslems.”

    Exactly how many thousand is a few thousand?

  37. says

    Sorry, Danny, but the mask came off the jihadists–who seem to resonate well with lots of people across the Dar-ul-Islam–when Osama Bin Laden boasted of how only Muslims could be so brave as to fly an airplane into a building. The ugliness of the Jihadi face–which appears in your post–is all the more plain when they started blaming the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ (imitation of a long, angry whine) for all the world’s troubles the minute the daisy cutter bombs started falling on Tora Bora. It appeared again when a Saudi Prince offered Mayor Giuliani help in rebuilding NY if he’d only condemn the Israelis. And now your post repeats the same screed in your rant against the “Zionists”. Your suggestion to others here to go munch bagels in an earlier post also reveals an ugly anti-Semitism.

    Yes, I agree that Zionists can be pretty dumb. Men like Herzl, bamboozled by academic fools of the Goldziher and Weill sort, thought that Islam was “tolerant” and that the Ummah wouldn’t begrudge them the moral equivalent of an Indian reservation (never mind that they actually made their Indian reservation work). Joke’s on them.

    Now, you tell me what “Zionism” has to do with anything when Muslim militants chop off the heads of Buddhist schoolchildren in southern Thailand–part of a country where the “glass ceiling” for religious minorities lies barely below royalty? Tell me what you make about the troubles in Sharki Turkistan (Xinjiang), where there isn’t a Jew in sight?

  38. says

    “STOP SPREADING HATE….SPREAD LOVE AMONG HUMANITY !”

    I agree.

    This should stop

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M529qurtDY0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV9M3mmqOII

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5349604.stm

    etc etc

    The hate-filled sermons in Mosques should stop.

    The Hate-filled indoctrination of children in your Islamic schools should stop.

    The hate-filled language and commands in the Quran should be expunged and declared hate-speech.

    Then only will we have love spread among humanity.

  39. says

    “STOP SPREADING HATE….SPREAD LOVE AMONG HUMANITY !”

    I agree.

    This should stop

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M529qurtDY0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV9M3mmqOII

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5349604.stm

    etc etc

    The hate-filled sermons in Mosques should stop.

    The Hate-filled indoctrination of children in your Islamic schools should stop.

    The hate-filled language and commands in the Quran should be expunged and declared hate-speech.

    Then only will we have love spread among humanity.

  40. says

    “danny” wrote:

    You have made good point and reference therein in your post. However, you must understand all these hate spreading by these Islamophopia groups such as Jihadwatch knows very well that the violent jihadi Moslem fanatics are very few in this world, maybe few thousand at the most out of some 1.5 billion Moslems.
    ……………………………………

    “A few thousand at most”? There are Jihadists murdering people in Nigeria, and Thailand, and Somalia, and Afghanistan, and Indonesia, and Pakistan, and Libya, and Russia, and Egypt, and Burma, and Iraq, and Mali, and in the West. These “few thousand” Jihadists are pretty damn busy…

    Moreover, they are supported by a majority of the Ummah, who do so on the model of the Qur’an and the Hadith and the Sira.

    More:

    As a matter of fact I think there are more violent Zionist terrorist in occupied Palestine in the name of settler than the whole violent Moslem Jihad gang or terrorist.
    ……………………………………

    Well, this is just retarded. Do you really believe that anyone here is going to buy that?

    More:

    I think behind all these Islamophobia spreading machines hides the true Zionist objective of bringing more death, destruction loot, pillage and plunder of the middle-east and nothing else.
    ……………………………………

    Projection. Those pillaging and murdering in the Middle East”and elsewhere”are *Muslims*.

    More:

    Only the Zionist benefits from divisions and rifts between the regional countries of the middle-east because of her main objective of keeping occupation of Palestine permanent and two state solution on the book only. The racist and violent Zionist program is to obliterate the region for money and greed and permanent occupation of Palestine for the European Jewry AKA Kazari Jews.
    ……………………………………

    What utter crap. The violent revolutions sweeping the Mahgreb and the Levant are intended to impose Islamist regimes”and they have mostly been alarmingly successful. Muslims slaughtering others”even other Muslims”has always been very much a part of bloody Islam.

    More:

    This is the old agenda of Neo-Con Zionist and it is well known among progressive citizens who wants a peaceful world by educating people around the world.
    ……………………………………

    Are pious Muslims slaughtering Thai Buddhists because of “Zionism”? Are they murdering the “insufficiently Islamic” in Somalia because of Israel? Are they blowing up busloads of Shi’ite pilgrims in Iraq because of Ashkenazis? Are they massacring Christian students in Nigeria because of da Joooooooooz?

    Do you even realize how stupid you sound?

    Yet more:

    Regrdless of all these Islamophobia and hate spreading machines by the right wing Kazari Zionist…..their objective to permanently occupy Palestine will never become reality. What will happen is ” unnecessary bloodshed and violence and loss of many innocent human being” on this Zionist incited carnage.

    STOP SPREADING HATE….SPREAD LOVE AMONG HUMANITY !
    ……………………………………

    Are all those violent Jihadists “spreading love among humanity”? What crap.

    As for the gist of this second post, what “danny” is implying is that Muslims will destroy Israel and visit bloody genocide on the Jews”and that this will be the victims’ fault, for daring to live as free people surrounded by Muslim barbarians.

  41. says

    Your message needs correction …

    Stop spreading Lies …spread Truth among humanity!

    Exposing lies with the truth IS love, not hate.

    You’re a liar, btw.

  42. says

    Fool, soon enough the Israelis will finish the job and permanently remove islam from the Holy Land. Only their misplaced compassion has prevented them from doing it before now.

    If you’re so interested in spreading “love” and ending “hate”, why not go to your co-cultists’ websites and lecture them, since they are the ones committing violence on a worldwide basis? You may want to warn them, in fact, that we;re getting awfully tired of it and that the day when islam will be completely and utterly ERADICATED is fast approaching. You’re a bunch of pesky gnats and we’re going to SWAT you!

  43. says

    “STOP SPREADING HATE….SPREAD LOVE AMONG HUMANITY !”

    You need to talk to Allah about that…He makes it clear in his book who and what he hates, kufr and kuffar, and orders his followers to attack and kill them…That’s not exactly the way to spread love among humanity…You might be able to blame Zionists for some things, but they did not write the evil and hateful Quran…

  44. says

    What will happen is ” unnecessary bloodshed and violence and loss of many innocent human being”

    Wipe your mouth, danny-bum, you’re drooling all over your bib.

  45. says

    “Hey honey, i’m thirsy, i’m going to the kitchen to get some jihad.

    Yesterday, i went to the bathroom and took a jihad.

    This vanilla-jihad ice cream tastes jihadilicious!.”

    Haha-hehe!. Brilliant, hilarious and true!

    Might as well make jihad interchangeable with the word, Rose, Art, Beauty .. It is incomprehensible for me to imagine how uninformed one must be to swallow the lie regarding jihad’s benign noble nature. You will have to begin in kindergarten to successfully indoctrinate such deception.

  46. says

    You clown! There is no Palestine, never has been. Just like there is no Scandinavia, never has been!

    Palestine and Scandinavia are names for geographical areas within which there are several countries.

  47. says

    You are now offically the most boring poster on this site. Your obsession with the jews and their origins are embarrasing and I am at a loss as to whether you are a rabid muslim or a raging nazi.To conclude in language you will understand……Danny you are a complete fanny.

  48. says

    “danny” wrote:

    A new Subway, Bus and Railway poster that says:-

    ” Lets not forget the Amalekite Nation…the victim of humanity’s first holocaust” Now help, oh humanity to stop another Palestinian holocaust from taking place ”

    Looks like it will be the message of truth.
    ………………………….

    If by “truth” you mean utter bullsh*t, then, yeah.

    “Palestinians””Muslim Arabs”go to Israel for excellent”and free”medical care all the time. These hardly sound like “genocidal” actions…

    Meanwhile, pious Muslims regularly scream their murderous hatred of Jews and their intent to destroy Israel. These tenets are, indeed, enshrined in the Hamas charter.

    And these are hardly just words. They are backed up by homicidal Jihad.

    And your use of the term “holocaust” is grotesque and offensive here”but then, you intended it to be.

  49. says

    You’re only here to lie and undermine Robert Spencer, Jihad Watch, and the TRUTH …

    your lies are not welcome here.

    Be gone, troll!

  50. says

    I know a LIAR, VIOLENT and CONTEMPTOUS right wing Zionist hate truth. But truth always prevail.

    Long live our great President Obama. A man of peace

  51. says

    good information, traeh.

    Too bad Geller didn’t have that at her fingertips and lips to counter the CNN Parroting Head (apologies to Jimmy Buffet fans). If the Counter-Jihad movement had a definitive Manual by now, Geller could have dialed it up on her cellphone and within seconds have had traeh’s information to read aloud.

  52. says

    Thanks, LemonLime.

    We do need a synoptic, concise, counterjihad/Islam manual. It should have only easily verifiable data, and only data of the maximum possible potency, on the smallest possible number of pages. It should reduce argument to the absolute minimum needed to convict mainstream Islam in the court of public opinion. I suppose the single goal of such a manual should be to demonstrate that mainstream Islam as a global movement is a grave and growing totalitarian threat to the world and to the West in particular. A lot of people are working toward such a manual in a way. One finds the beginnings of it, for example, at thereligionofpeace.com, in the sections called, “Games Muslims Play,” and “The Myths of Islam,” and in other parts of that site.

    To do a good job of it, one would have to know the Trilogy — as Bill Warner calls it — well. One would need to cite such stuff as there is at Quoting Islam, and one would need to be able to concisely summarize, using percentages somewhat in the fashion of Bill Warner but more transparently, the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira.

    One would also need a knowledge of polls of Muslim opinion, and knowledge of the several historical arguments made in support of Islam: (the myth of Al-Andalus; Islam’s alleged scientific contributions in the past; Islam’s supposed saving of ancient Greek texts while Europe was in a Dark Age; the allegedly worse state of Jews in the Christian world; the meaning of the Crusades; etc.) Such historical claims would need to be answered with the maximum concision possible, each claim countered by means of a few or a dozen decisive and verifiable data points, not essays or articles.

    And one would need to know something about the various schools of Islamic law (I gather there are four Sunni and four Shia schools, and that they all promote totalitarianism), their historical and current activities, power, and influence.

  53. says

    Why don’t you go and fight the real fanatics in Afghanistan instead of beating up Palestinian children in occupied Palestine on a daily basis? I saw them video’s on the youtube regarding settlers violence against Palestinian children mostly by American Zionist settlers.

    Dispute that with the youtube and sue them, if you can. Stop talking crap…always speak the truth and nothing but the truth.

    G T F O O P

  54. says

    Your comment is so good. I wanted to reply to danny and chowching but you said it all. Both of them are stupid w******s. They’re anti-Semites and Nazis.

    To tell us that jihad is the struggle for self-improvement is only to fool us. Jihad was always the fight to spread Islam and oppress us under barbaric sharia law.

    Take care, my friend.

  55. says

    I saw a story related to what you are talking about, where as I recall some Jewish kids went on offense and tried to beat or kill some Palestinian kids, but that kind of thing is rare enough in Israel that when it happened the overwhelming majority of Israelis disapproved and were shocked and upset. Those who did the crime were punished, and I gather a national media conversation ensued with lots of hand-wringing over how a few Israeli Jewish kids’ minds could have fallen into a sort of criminally aggressive mode toward some Palestinian kids who apparently had done nothing.

    Now, compare that Israeli reaction to the crime of a few Jewish kids, with the Palestinians’ reaction to the criminal destruction of the World Trade Center towers along with thousands of lives — many Palestinians were photographed and filmed celebrating and giving out sweets in the streets! They and many Muslims rejoice at jihad that kills non-Muslims. We have seen this repeatedly. Sometimes Palestinian television shows teach small children to die in jihad and to utterly dehumanize Jews or other non-Muslims. Muslim nations too often express astoundingly extreme dehumanization of non-Muslims, especially of Jews (due to many Jew-hating verses in the Qur’an), the kind of insane dehumanization that one also saw in Nazi Germany or other totalitarian states.

  56. says

    As far as I understood, all religious hate and violence against other religion, tribes or nation(s) started by the religion of Moses against the Amalekites.

    Dispute this…

  57. says

    traeh,

    “We do need a synoptic, concise, counterjihad/Islam manual…on the smallest possible number of pages.”

    It should be in two formats: hard copy and digital. On digital, number of pages doesn’t matter.

    And furthermore, hard copy would be increasingly irrelevant anyway, since it could be loaded into one’s cellphone which nearly everyone carries around anyway (and certainly into one’s laptop). The main concern for the digital format is the quickness by which at the touch of the fewest keystrokes, one can access the pertinent info at the moment it’s needed. So in that moment with Geller, she’d maybe have to push or swipe (if it’s touch-screen) about 3 or 4 times to get to that subcategory of “jihad as mostly violent”. At that point, all she has to do is read off the top 2 or 3 facts. Then, if the interlocutor demands evidence, Geller can push/swipe just once to get the citations (each fact in the digital manual would have one icon to push to access citation verification).

    “It should reduce argument to the absolute minimum needed to convict mainstream Islam in the court of public opinion.”

    I think the manual should not contain any arguments at all. It should only contain the facts. The person accessing the manual can weave in the extra language necessary to use those facts for whatever argument he or she is making.

    “I suppose the single goal of such a manual should be to demonstrate that mainstream Islam as a global movement is a grave and growing totalitarian threat to the world and to the West in particular.”

    Yes, but I’d add a few words to show what I mean:

    “I suppose the single goal of such a manual should be to help demonstrate — by supplying all crucial data necessary to our every claim in our argumentation — that mainstream Islam as a global movement is a grave and growing totalitarian threat to the world and to the West in particular.”

    “A lot of people are working toward such a manual in a way. One finds the beginnings of it, for example, at thereligionofpeace.com, in the sections called, “Games Muslims Play,” and “The Myths of Islam,” and in other parts of that site.”

    I’ve heard this before. Baron Bodissey had much the same response when I first broached the need for a manual. I think there is a critically erroneous assumption here, however. For a manual to be effective, it has to be definitive — it has to become the Bible of the Counter Jihad for all interactions we have with our more dimwitted fellow citizens and with Islam apologists. It won’t do to have bits and pieces of ongoing “projects” here and there on the Net. We need a manual that is

    definitive (i.e., the only one used by everyone in the Counter Jihad)

    concise (just the facts, ma’am)

    sufficient — containing all the bullet points for a) our refutation of Islam, and b) our counter-refutation of typical defenses of Islam both from Muslims and PC MCs

    and finally

    completely referenced with verifiable and persuasive citations (a link to Bare Naked Islam or understandingislam.com simply won’t do).

    “To do a good job of it, one would have to know the Trilogy — as Bill Warner calls it”

    That contextual explanation should be supplied by the person armed with the Manual — it need not be in the Manual (except, of course, in the form of citations to back it up).

    “One would also need a knowledge of polls of Muslim opinion”

    Definitely all polls that have been done should be uploaded into the Manual, and organized by topic to make accessibility quick and easy at a moment’s notice.

    “And one would need to know something about the various schools of Islamic law (I gather there are four Sunni and four Shia schools, and that they all promote totalitarianism), their historical and current activities, power, and influence.”

    All these are vital. There is one giant lacuna in our information as far as I have seen — and that is our ability to find and cite data that demonstrates that the teachings of these schools — all going back to medieval times — are currently now in the 21st century being taught and believed by a sufficient number of Muslims, sufficiently widespread around the world including within the West, by a sufficient number of ostensible “moderates” to connect the dot between the obvious unacceptability of those schools, on the one hand, and why mainstream Muslims should be of concern to us today.

    This lacuna points to the fact that the Manual will not only be a big project in terms of sheer collection of data, organization of data and software structuring of that data == but also the fact that there exist certain important links in the chain of data that have not yet been adequate researched; which will not only take time, but money, since we can’t expect a good job to be done by volunteers, some of whom will have to be professional academics fluent in languages (not to mention the fact that it would take a lot of time out of a person’s life for which he should expect remuneration).

  58. says

    I agree with most of what you say.

    But I think someone could probably create something at least provisionally definitive long before one could mobilize and engage all the scholars of various languages in the large project you sketched.

  59. says

    Lemon Lime/Hesperado/Etc:

    So in that moment with Geller, she’d maybe have to push or swipe (if it’s touch-screen) about 3 or 4 times to get to that subcategory of “jihad as mostly violent”. At that point, all she has to do is read off the top 2 or 3 facts. Then, if the interlocutor demands evidence, Geller can push/swipe just once to get the citations (each fact in the digital manual would have one icon to push to access citation verification).

    Have you ever actually done a TV interview?

    The idea that a hostile and prosecutorial interviewer would allow a counter-jihad interviewee the time to start looking things up and reading them out is ridiculous in the extreme — not only because of the bias of the interviewer, but because of the nature of the TV format, which works in sound bytes and quick exchanges. An interviewee who responds to a question by saying “just a minute” and starts playing with her cellphone is simply not going to be broadcast; TV abhors vacuums and dead air.

    A TV interview with a hostile interviewer is a battle of wits, not a leisurely conversation affording one plenty of time to look up an apposite response. This manual idea may have some merit, but ultimately it founders on the fact that there is no perfect, all-purpose response to any question, even if the question asked is the same on different occasions; the nature of the answer is determined by the context and circumstances of the interview, the audience, the time allotted, and many other factors. To think that all-purpose, perfect responses can be formulated is just as much fantasy as thinking that a TV host and producer will sit and wait while an interviewee scrolls to find the response she wants to make.

    I have done plenty of hostile TV interviews myself, and there are plenty of them in which I could have and should have made a better response than the one I did make. But that is the nature of the game. The only way to prepare for them is to try to anticipate the line of questioning and formulate responses in one’s mind, not in one’s cellphone or laptop. The only answer to the problem of dealing with the usual run of questioning from PC or Muslim bs artists is to educate oneself — and there is plenty of material already out there — rather than to pine for the perfect manual that will contain all the answers. It never will exist, even if you do one day produce it — what you produce will immediately be proved inadequate, not because you’re not competent, but because it simply is not possible to produce an all-purpose storehouse of answers that will be sufficient in all circumstances.

    Cordially
    Robert Spencer

  60. says

    “danny” wrote:

    G T F O O P
    …………………….

    From what I’ve been able to find, this means “get the f*ck off our plane”.

    For a Muslim apologist to use such a term is grimly hilarious, given the Muslim propensity for hijacking civilian aircraft. In the wake of 9/11 this is especially grotesque.

    On the other hand, it almost perfectly delineates the Muslim mindset”claiming the accomplishments of others, and believing that the whole world belongs to Muslims. Ugh.

  61. says

    Traeh and LemonLime, good stuff on the idea for an Anti-Jihad manual. I’ve read your comments with great interest.

    I consider myself fairly knowledgeable for a layperson, but I know that I often flounder while trying to cite a Hadith or Qur’anic verse that I only dimly remember and am unable to find again. I have some jotted down, but this is hardly sufficient.

    Traeh, you are certainly one of the most knowledgeable posters here on the texts of Islam. And LemonLime is very knowledgeable about the threat of Islam in general.

    If you ever get to the point where you are ready to put together a print edition, I would be more than happy to offer my services for graphics and book design.

    And, as you have mentioned, an on-line edition that is easy to search would be even more invaluable.

  62. says

    I hope you’re doing well, gravenimage, and I agree with you that LemonLime and traeh’s ideas for a manual on Islam is a good one. On another matter, I know you are in close touch with dda and I was wondering how she is doing. I know she had an eye operation coming up and don’t know if this took place yet and what the outcome has been if so. Let me know if you get the chance. Thanks.

  63. says

    Thanks for your comments gravenimage. I don’t foresee actively engaging in a Manual construction project in the near future; I think it has to be done right, and to be done right, it needs both funding and support from bigger wigs than I in the Counter Jihad. None of them seem remotely interested, however.

    On danny’s acronym, I believe the last two letters denote “Of Palestine”.

  64. says

    Robert,

    You’re right — I was wrong about that one specific context of the short television spot with a hostile interviewer. In that context it wouldn’t be possible to use the manual. However, sometimes in those television contexts there are other guests (often used to “balance” out and give “perspective” to the Counter Jihad guest), and not uncommonly the spotlight moves from guest to guest and back again. If, for example, the interviewer turns to his Muslim “expert” to ask the helpfully leading question, “But ‘jihad’ isn’t necessarily a violent war, right Dr. Husseini?”, and Dr. Husseini proceeds to blather for 2 minutes, then the Counter Jihad guy can use all or part of those 2 minutes (it shouldn’t take all but 20 seconds) to dial up the juicy money quotes, such as “traeh” provided above.

    On the other point that the manual is a good idea but since it’s not perfect, we shouldn’t deem it an urgent necessity in our war of ideas, I’d only say that a useful tool need not be perfect to be better than the tool currently being used by many. Not everyone has the admirable encyclopedic memory and ability to deploy it on the spot as you do, Robert; the manual is for all those people out there who are in varying degrees not quite so nimble on their feet — whose numbers, one would hope, are growing — who will find themselves in a variety of different circumstances — formal debates, informal debates, panels, public arguments caught on digicam then broadcast on YouTube, even the slower media of letters to the editor or letters to politicians where the daunting task of having to spend hours tracking down various points that would make the presentation more persuasive — where the manual would deliver in a mere matter of minutes at most — many may find off-putting and dispiriting.

    While that specific context of the hostile TV spot is one important part of the war of ideas, it would be a tragedy if that were the only context by which we were forced to conduct it; for, the very reason you cited that vividly illustrates why a manual is utterly impracticable in that context also ipso facto shows why it’s a poor medium, by itself, to effect real social change on such a sprawling and complex problem. And it’s a good thing our civilization hasn’t devolved so far that it has been reduced to relying solely on TV sound bites (even if it seems to do so too much for our taste). Warren Beatty once quipped about his frustration with those TV spots where one is by their nature put on the spot unfairly: toward the end of an interview, he was suddenly surprised with a big heavy question: “What’s your relationship with your sister (Shirley MacLaine) like these days?” — and he said that at that instant, someone off-camera whispered to him: “Fifteen seconds…!”. Obviously an insufficient amount of time to give any adequate answer. And that subject, needless to say, is infinitely more trivial than the problem of Islam.

    As for the nature of the answer needing to be flexible relative to questions, this is true to an extent, but at the same time, we see the same questions and the same pre-fab apologist answers coming up over and over again over the years. On certain points, I think a boilerplate (again, not a perfect one) would be useful to deal with these repeating memes — e.g., “jihad is not violent”. And there are literally dozens, if not scores, or hundreds, of similar points or memes that come up repeatedly for which the manual would be useful, I think.

  65. says

    Robert Spencer wrote:

    A TV interview with a hostile interviewer is a battle of wits, not a leisurely conversation affording one plenty of time to look up an apposite response.
    ……………………..

    Absolutely, Mr. Spencer. I’ve always been impressed with your ability”and that of Pamela Geller”to both think on your feet and to remain collected in the face of hostility.

    And you and Ms. Geller are both extremely knowledgeable about Islam”both its texts and its baleful history.

    More:

    This manual idea may have some merit, but ultimately it founders on the fact that there is no perfect, all-purpose response to any question, even if the question asked is the same on different occasions; the nature of the answer is determined by the context and circumstances of the interview, the audience, the time allotted, and many other factors.
    ……………………..

    Of course. And it wouldn’t so much be useful for a scholar of Islam as it would for the large numbers of Anti-Jihadists who have some familiarity with the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira, but whose knowledge may not be as encyclopedic.

    For instance, I found your series “Blogging the Qur’an” useful in just this manner.

  66. says

    Wellington wrote:

    On another matter, I know you are in close touch with dda and I was wondering how she is doing. I know she had an eye operation coming up and don’t know if this took place yet and what the outcome has been if so. Let me know if you get the chance. Thanks.
    ………………………

    DDA has had her surgery, Wellington. It seemed to have gone well, but will it will take a while for her vision to adjust until she and her doctors can be sure of the final outcome.

    I have my fingers crossed.

    She’s also just come back from a vacation with her family where she didn’t have internet access.

    I know that I, for one, have really missed her comments here.

  67. says

    LemonLime wrote:

    Thanks for your comments gravenimage. I don’t foresee actively engaging in a Manual construction project in the near future; I think it has to be done right, and to be done right, it needs both funding and support from bigger wigs than I in the Counter Jihad. None of them seem remotely interested, however.
    …………………………….

    It is a good idea, though. I know I need to brush up on the texts of Islam, and probably reread the Qur’an. There are few things more dispiriting than wading back into that ugly mire, though. Ugh.

    More:

    On danny’s acronym, I believe the last two letters denote “Of Palestine”.
    …………………………….

    I’m imagine you’re right, LemonLime. Given “danny’s” meretricious implication that all Jihad is due to the existence of tiny Israel, this is probably correct.