New York Federal Reserve jihad plotter was VP of Muslim Brotherhood-linked Muslim Students Association

And he attended a local mosque and prayed five times daily. He wanted to mount his jihad terror attack to help bring Muslims "one step closer to run the world." What programs have U.S. Muslim groups instituted in order to teach young Muslims that this understanding of Islam is false and must be rejected? Why, none. And what does that tell you?

"Terror suspect's family says he asked to come to US to study; feds say he was bent on jihad," from the Associated Press, October 18 (thanks to Kenneth):

NEW YORK – Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis was a terrible student in his native Bangladesh, and his middle-class parents say he persuaded them to send him off to study in the U.S. as a way of improving his job prospects.

At the Missouri college where he enrolled, one classmate said Nafis often remarked that true Muslims don't believe in violence — an image that seemed startlingly at odds with Nafis' arrest in an FBI sting this week on charges of trying to blow up the Federal Reserve Bank in New York with what he thought was a 1,000-pound car bomb.

"I can't imagine being more shocked about somebody doing something like this," said Jim Dow, a 54-year-old Army veteran who rode home from class with Nafis twice a week. "I didn't just meet this kid a couple of times. We talked quite a bit, sir. And this doesn't seem to be in character."

Federal investigators, often accused by defense attorneys of entrapping and leading would-be terrorists along, said the 21-year-old Nafis made the first move over the summer, reaching out for accomplices and eventually contacting a government informant, who then went to federal authorities.

They said he also selected his target, drove the van loaded with dummy explosives up to the door of the bank, and tried to set off the bomb from a hotel room using a cellphone he thought had been rigged as a detonator.

During the investigation, he and the informant corresponded via Facebook and other social media, talked on the phone and met in hotel rooms, according to a law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Nafis spoke of his admiration for Osama bin Laden, talked of writing an article about his plot for an al-Qaida-affiliated magazine, and said he would be willing to be a martyr but preferred to go home to his family after carrying out the attack, authorities said. And he also talked about wanting to kill President Barack Obama and bomb the New York Stock Exchange, a law enforcement official said.

Investigators said in court papers that he came to the U.S. bent on jihad and worked out the specifics of a plot when he arrived. While Nafis believed he had the blessing of al-Qaida and was acting on behalf of the terrorist group, he has no known ties, according to federal officials.

Nafis, who at the time of his arrest Wednesday was working as a busboy at a restaurant in Manhattan, was jailed without bail. His attorney has not commented on the case, but in other instances where undercover agents and sting operations were used, lawyers have argued entrapment.

Investigators would not say exactly how he initially contacted the government informant.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, whose department had a role in the arrest as a member of a joint federal-state terrorism task force, said the entrapment argument rarely prevails.

"You have to be otherwise not disposed to do a crime," Kelly said. "And if it's your intent to do a crime, and somehow there are means made available, then generally speaking, the entrapment defense does not succeed."

Nafis' family in Dhaka, Bangladesh, denied he could have been involved — he was incapable of such actions and came to America to study, not to carry out an attack, his parents said. His father, a banker, said Nafis was so timid he couldn't venture out onto the roof alone.

"My son couldn't have done it," Quazi Ahsanullah said, weeping.

"He is very gentle and devoted to his studies," he said, pointing to Nafis' time studying at the private North South University in Dhaka.

Belal Ahmed, a spokesman for the university, said Nafis was a terrible student who was put on probation and threatened with expulsion if he didn't bring his grades up. Nafis eventually stopped coming to school, Ahmed said.

Ahsanullah said his son persuaded him to send him to America to study, arguing that a U.S. degree would give him a better chance at success in Bangladesh. "I spent all my savings to send him to America," the father said.

Nafis moved to Missouri, where he studied cybersecurity at Southeast Missouri State University. He also became vice president of the school's Muslim Student Association and began attending a mosque.

But he withdrew after one semester and requested over the summer that his records be transferred to a school in Brooklyn. The university declined to identify which school.

Dow, his former classmate at Southeast Missouri State, said Nafis spoke admiringly of bin Laden. At the same time, "he told me he didn't really believe bin Laden was involved in the twin towers because he said bin Laden was a religious man, and a religious man wouldn't have done something like that," Dow said.

He said Nafis gave Dow a copy of the Quran and asked him to read it. But he "didn't rant or rave or say crazy stuff," Dow said.

"What really shocked me the most was he had specifically spoken to me about true Muslims not believing in violence," Dow said.

Dion Duncan of St. Louis, a fellow student and member of the Muslim organization, said: "Nafis was a good kid. He showed no traces of anti-Americanism, or death to America, or anything like that. He was a trustworthy, honest kid."

"He was polite and courteous. He was helpful. All the things you would expect from a good Muslim kid. He prayed five times a day," Duncan said.

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If I was determined to set off a massive bomb I, sure as hell, would want to put people off the scent. I am sure the muslims have a word for it.....

"Jim Dow, a 54-year-old Army veteran who rode home from class with Nafis twice a week. "I didn't just meet this kid a couple of times. We talked quite a bit, sir. And this doesn't seem to be in character."

This experience by Army veteran Jim Dow underscores once again how difficult it can be to identify a Muslim who decides to go jihad on a infidel nation.

yes it is. in fact if you remember, bin laden instructed the 9-11 jihadists to shave and dress as westerners so they will not come under suspicion. Lies are ok in order to wage jihad.
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The exhibited behavior of the student in this article is consistent with the lying and other forms of deception that Muhammad demonstrated and permitted and advocated for the advancement of Islam. Muhammad himself was deceived and he was a deceiver. He set himself up as a self-proclaimed prophet of what he claimed to be ultimate truth, but his version of truth was actually error. He eventually fell into deep depravity.

Muhammad met plenty of people during his lifetime who knew the truth of Jesus the Christ, the Messiah, the Savior of the world, the Way, the Truth, the Life; and he murdered a lot of such people solely because they didn't submit to Islam. Muhammad apparently rejected the truth that such people testified to him before he murdered them. By rejecting the light, the only thing left for Muhammad was darkness; and that darkness was very deep.

A true Muslim is intrinsically deceived, as Muhammad was, because Islam is intrinsically a false ideology of deception.

Anyone who claims to be a true follower -- an imitator -- of Muhammad should expect to be mistrusted by everyone else. It goes with the territory. If a person wants to be trusted by other people, then the person must publicly renounce all of Islam, including Muhammad, who is not worth imitating and who is not worth following.

There is an exceedingly better alternative to Muhammad, the deceiver, who is quite dead and quite useless to anyone. That exceedingly better alternative is Jesus the Savior of the world, who never deceived and who never advocated deception; and He is alive forevermore and remains a sure rock and fortress for all who follow Him and trust Him and draw near to Him and cling to Him.

This is a request that all alumni of Colleges everywhere send this article in an email to their Colleges' Administrative Offices.

I sent an earlier email like this to my Alumni Office (Sewanee) some time ago and the reply I got was a matter-of-fact note that she'd forward it on to the Administrative folks, as it wasn't an Alumni affair. Well, maybe not, literally. But maybe so.

These folks simply don't understand that their sweet young undergraduate members of their local MSU are unwitting dupes...maybe even in their idealistic youth...witting.

"Morningside" has been revised to read my usual "Charlie Griffith"...somehow I got all tangled up in this "Typepad" "logging in" thing and my earlier use of Google Mail suddenly had me locked out.
I throw up my hands at this complexity.....

Re the "true Muslims don't believe in violence" thing.

It all depends what is meant by 'violence'.

'Jihad' is *not* understood by Muslims to be 'violence'. It is..'mercy' and 'peace'. It's 'spreading peace'. It's 'peacemaking'. The murderous Jew-haters on board the Mavi Marmara who chanted the slogan about Khaybar, were 'peace activists'.

What is 'violence' is - any act of war that is not sanctioned by sharia. We non-Muslims live in 'dar al harb', the region of [unlawful] war, the region that 'makes war' on 'allah', both by existing and by - some of the time - trying to defend itself against Muslim attempts to subjugate us and subject us to sharia.

When Muslims lob bombs over the border at Israeli Jewish houses and schools, that's Jihad, which is sharia-approved.

When Israelis attempt to take out the rocket-launchers, that's 'violence'; Muslims see infidel attempts at self-defence against the 'peace'-spreading Jihadis as illegitimate, unlawful, *criminal*, an affront to the allah-ordained order of things.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/07/islamic-dictionary-for-infidels.html
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

That article cites the Muslim writer Bassam Tibi: 'The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world'.

And, quoting Tibi again:

"world peace, the final stage of the da'wa (call to embrace Islam), is reached only with the conversion or submission of all mankind to Islam…

'Muslims believe that expansion through war is not aggression but a fulfillment of the Qur'anic command to spread Islam as a way to peace.

'**The resort to force to disseminate Islam is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims.** {my emphasis - dda}.

“Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat, acts of "opening" the world to Islam and expressing Islamic jihad.

“Relations between dar al-Islam, the home of peace, and dar al-harb, the world of unbelievers, nevertheless take place in a state of war, according to the Qur'an and to the authoritative commentaries of Islamic jurists.

'Unbelievers who stand in the way, creating obstacles for the da'wa, are blamed for this state of war, for the da'wa can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it. In other words, those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them. "

I'd bet my bottom dollar that when Nafis said true Muslims don't believe in 'violence', what he had in mind when he said 'violence' was 'harb' or 'hurub', that is, *illegitimate* violence, violence not endorsed by the sharia.

Naturally, Muslims don't believe that we harbis - we who are in a state of 'war' with Islam merely by breathing-while-not-Muslim - have any right to resist in any way - and especially not by use of armed force - the Muslim attempts to absorb, enslave, subjugate or kill us.

Nafis, of course, also knew that his infidel hearer likely did not know this and would take his (Nafis's) statement a different way, a way that would lull him into a false sense of security.

"What really shocked me the most was he had specifically spoken to me about true Muslims not believing in violence," Dow said.

Right. As we can see from all the peaceful muslim countries!

New York Federal Reserve jihad plotter was VP of Muslim Brotherhood-linked Muslim Students Association
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Is *anyone* here surprised by this? How many violent terrorists have come out of the ranks of the MSA at this point?

God knows this is not true of any other ethnic or religious student group.

More:

At the Missouri college where he enrolled, one classmate said Nafis often remarked that true Muslims don't believe in violence...
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As Dumbledore's Army notes, this *doesn't* mean what it would to a decent Infidel.

In fact, so much of "Islamospeak" means the *exact inverse* of what it does to rational people.

War is Peace—the "peace" of Islam; Freedom is Slavery—being a "slave of Allah" is the ideal state; and Ignorance is Strength—being illiterate and ignorant of everything save Islam is lauded, and anything predating or outside Islam is considered nothing but worthless "Jahillya", which is not only not respected, but is *deliberately and wantonly destroyed*. Just see all the destruction of art and archeology by pious Muslim vandals.

Orwell may not have been specifically referring to Islam with his infamous slogan, but he well understood the Fascist mindset.

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Nafis spoke of his admiration for Osama bin Laden, talked of writing an article about his plot for an al-Qaida-affiliated magazine, and said he would be willing to be a martyr but preferred to go home to his family after carrying out the attack, authorities said. And he also talked about wanting to kill President Barack Obama and bomb the New York Stock Exchange, a law enforcement official said.
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And he wanted to wreck all this death and destruction, rather than take advantage of the excellent American university system. These are Islamic "values" in a nutshell.

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"You have to be otherwise not disposed to do a crime," Kelly said. "And if it's your intent to do a crime, and somehow there are means made available, then generally speaking, the entrapment defense does not succeed."
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Well, that's right. It's not as though this guy was offered sex, weed, or the opportunity to purchase cheap consumer goods. All of these would hold some attraction for the average exchange student—only the means would be a bit shady. In fact, an exchange student *might* be able to make the case that he simply wasn't familiar enough with the culture here to realize he was being solicited by a prostitute or sold stolen goods.

But *waging violent Jihad*? That's another matter entirely...

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Nafis moved to Missouri, where he studied cybersecurity at Southeast Missouri State University. He also became vice president of the school's Muslim Student Association and began attending a mosque.
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He was studying *cybersecurity*? While less bloody than the terrorist plot he had planned, this would just give him more tools for waging Jihad. Of course, he was such a terrible student he may not actually have learned anything...

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Dow, his former classmate at Southeast Missouri State, said Nafis spoke admiringly of bin Laden. At the same time, "he told me he didn't really believe bin Laden was involved in the twin towers because he said bin Laden was a religious man, and a religious man wouldn't have done something like that," Dow said.
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I'm sorry—how stupid is this guy Dow? Why, exactly, would Nafis admire Osama bin Laden if he thought he was lying about being responsible for 9/11? This is just more Muslim cognitive dissonance, where 9/11 is both a great victory for Muslims *and* a plot by the Infidel to "make Islam look bad".

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He said Nafis gave Dow a copy of the Quran and asked him to read it.
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Da'wa, then Jihad. Why should this surprise anyone at this point? The pious Nidal Malik Hasan handed out Qur'ans the day before he gunned down fourteen Infidels at Fort Hood, as well.

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"He was polite and courteous. He was helpful. All the things you would expect from a good Muslim kid. He prayed five times a day," Duncan said.
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Yeah—the "good Muslim kids" always pray five times a day. Then they go out and murder some filthy Kuffar. It's all of a piece...

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