Romney: "These attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology on others"

Not great, but better: Romney offers something approaching honesty regarding the Islamic jihad against the West -- and that's a commodity we have not seen in a long time. From his speech today at VMI:

...The attacks against us in Libya were not an isolated incident. They were accompanied by anti-American riots in nearly two dozen other countries, mostly in the Middle East, but also in Africa and Asia. Our embassies have been attacked. Our flag has been burned. Many of our citizens have been threatened and driven from their overseas homes by vicious mobs, shouting “Death to America.” These mobs hoisted the black banner of Islamic extremism over American embassies on the anniversary of the September 11th attacks.

As the dust settles, as the murdered are buried, Americans are asking how this happened, how the threats we face have grown so much worse, and what this calls on America to do. These are the right questions. And I have come here today to offer a larger perspective on these tragic recent events—and to share with you, and all Americans, my vision for a freer, more prosperous, and more peaceful world.

The attacks on America last month should not be seen as random acts. They are expressions of a larger struggle that is playing out across the broader Middle East—a region that is now in the midst of the most profound upheaval in a century. And the fault lines of this struggle can be seen clearly in Benghazi itself.

The attack on our Consulate in Benghazi on September 11th, 2012 was likely the work of forces affiliated with those that attacked our homeland on September 11th, 2001. This latest assault cannot be blamed on a reprehensible video insulting Islam, despite the Administration’s attempts to convince us of that for so long. No, as the Administration has finally conceded, these attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology on others, especially women and girls; who are fighting to control much of the Middle East today; and who seek to wage perpetual war on the West....

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OK, these are the words, now the deeds, please!

excellent point!!!
m

and who seek to wage perpetual war on the West....

More properly said: "who have waged perpetual war on the West and its attempt to promote freedom for a civilized mankind all around the world"

Listen!!! Much better than our current president Obama. I think (I hope) Romney understands that this is an idealogical struggle.

Unfortunately, Romney is at present in no position to perform any deeds. Hopefully he will be, in another 3 1/2 months.

It would have been better if he had replaced "reprehensible video insulting Islam" with "video questioning Islam". But still it's a stronger statement than anything that's come out of the present administration. Or the previous one, for that matter.

My read on Romney's foreign policy speeche(s) are a breath of fresh air in regards to moving us away from the politically correct leftard attitude of the man in Whitehouse now.

WE need to call it what it is and not this work place violence nonsense we saw projected by the Obama Administration over the Fort Hood Massacre by Nadal Hassan.

I feel much more transparency coming from a pre-Presidency Romney then we ever have received from the Obama Administration when it comes to identifying the West's major enemy.

Romney: "These attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology on others"

Not great, but better: Romney offers something approaching honesty regarding the Islamic jihad against the West -- and that's a commodity we have not seen in a long time.
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True—over ten years after 9/11, this is not great.

But it is so much better than what we've been hearing from the White House for the past four years, that I am nonetheless heartened.

I'll be casting my vote for Mitt Romney in November.

I'd reckon Romney's only boxing-clever with his 'reprehensible video' comment. He's the man I'd back if I had a vote. He seems quite switched-on.

I do hope Governor Romney will ultimately come to realize that that black flag represents not Islamic "extremism", but rather Orthodox Islam. Straight, with no chaser. Islam as it's written. The real deal. Not the Islam of "Westernized Muslims who wouldn't know a Qur'an from a phonebook."

Yes, I believe that is the term RS has settled upon; "Orthodox Islam".

And I hope the governor soon comes to realize that.

This is certainly better than Barry Hussein's feckless maunderings. But part of it is problematic, to wit:

In Syria, I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets. ...

Whle I hold no brief for the chinless ophthalmologist, "those members of the opposition who share our values" are far outnumbered by those who do not -- that is, the Muslim Brotherhood. Are we to embark upon yet another campaign to save Muslims, even as the Copts of Egypt, the people of Mali, and numberless others across the globe suffer at their hands? Are we to continue and compund that ongoing folly?

Absolutely! I have been extreme in my criticism of Romney as the mad Mormon; better a silly religion than one that is, in effect a cult of madness and death.
Eating humble pie, I acknowledge him as a far wiser choice than the closet Muslim in the White House...

"Not great, but better"!!!

Where are the great men? Why do we have to settle for a modicum?
Remember Gladstone? he called the Quran an "accursed book" and once held it up during a session of Parliament, declaring:
"So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world."
That's the kind of leaders we need. Where are they?

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/05/accursed-book-le-livre-maudit.html

I watched the 14 minute "reprehensible movie" trailer and it was pretty funny and harmless.

Man rushes in to tent: "Mohamed! Are you a homosexual??"

Mohamed, as the man rushes out of tent: "Well...uh...remember that time in the gym?"
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Gosh, Mitt's knee-jerk attack on the movie is a bad sign. He has no obligation to apologize for a 14 min trailer. We have a murdered US Ambassador.

FDR: "We apologize to the Japanese pilots as the explosion from the USS Arizona may have blown out their eardrums." FDR never said that, but in 2012, Obama or Romney might have said something similar.


It looks like with Romney, we can look forward to a military involvement in Syria, likely battling Muslim jihadis for the next 10 years, and probably will be staying in Afghanistan another 10, after an additional "surge" or two.

In Syria, I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets. Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously with our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran—rather than sitting on the sidelines. It is essential that we develop influence with those forces in Syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the Middle East.


And in Afghanistan, I will pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014. President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in Afghanistan is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war – and to potential attacks here at home – is a politically timed retreat that abandons the Afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders. And I will affirm that my duty is not to my political prospects, but to the security of the nation.


It would be wishful thinking to expect Romney to become the “great crusader” he lives in comfort and is not concerned with occasional suicide bombings. The final crusade will be led by a Mongol more ferocious than Genghis khan. When the smoke clears an Atheist empire will be born.

Mr. Romney need to have some progressive intellectual advisers in his foreign policy team instead of lost souls with extremely right wing neo-con Zionist and amen corner brain washed grits, gravy and bagel gangs.

Our Department of State is doing an excellent job under Hillary Clinton considering so many critical segmented and variable issues that she is dealing at a time.

"These attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology on others"
Had Romney the cojones to have inserted [mainstream Islamic] before the mindless and trite "terrorist" term, then we would all have something to celebrate! He's a world better than Obama but still miles away from a true understanding of Islam.

At this stage voting Obama out of office will be the best defense against Islam we can hope for. If he does not win we are in deep trouble. So please help Romney win. We can "criticize" him later.

did I not ask you not to come around Mondays and fridays?
M

Some of his political message to the 47% of the population is noted with due care. 47% do understand bona-fide wolf is trying very hard to wear sheep's clothing, but it is too late.

However Mr. Romney and his foreign policy gurus should understand our noble price winner president Obama did mention to bring the murderer of our great ambassador and other dedicated Americans serving in Libya to face justice.

Mr. Romney seems to dance before music starts to play. Once music starts he stop dancing, Very strange. This man is most certainly is not an intellectual, maybe very good when it comes to buy low...sell high mentality.

How can Mr. Romney forget that Libya is not a country with law and order or even an effective working government. The present Libyan government does not have control over 80% of the country with over half a million people holding all kinds of weapons and roaming around the street 24/7.

There are fanatic terrorist elements within these groups and gangs including former dictator regime loyalist. Situation on the ground in Libya is very different than what exist in Boca Raton Florida.

Jihad Watch and all these hate spreading group shall continue to spread among humanity instead of love. Mr. Romney must not get hooked up with these elements like Jesus freak G.W.Bush.

M.R. has been properly coached upon the subject, not too long ago, by a qualified expert, with whom most us here would agree, and about which coaching cair is all to nervy aware of, and made typical in your business or in your face critical questioning of, as though and as usual, they run the place.

Don't forget this, this coach is a good choice, although Dooley might provide more perspective, and I'd be much happier if he consulted secretly with Robert. It doesn't matter what he says on the stump, only that M.R. knows, and acts when it is appropriate.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/08/hamas-linked-cair-tries-to-strong-arm-romney-demands-he-explain-private-meeting-with-pro-freedom-gen.html

As a Canadian, I can't vote - but if I could, I would choose Mr. Romney. At least he "gets it" and is not an apologist or a closet muslim like Barry.

The Drakan Empire is nothing but a video game.

All of that pales in significance when compared to the atrocities the US has, and continues to, commit against the Muslim world. 1) Invasion, occupation, rape, torture and massacre against Iraq and Afghanistan 2) Regular drone bombings in Yemen and Pakistan that kill dozen of civilians in one drop.

You are so absurdly wrong I hardly know where to start. The Muslim world is getting some payback for 14 centuries of aggression, invasion, conquest and murder. It is estimated that this terrible religion has murdered around 270 million people since the false prophet invented the hoax as a way of supporting his robbery, rape and pillage. The Muslim world has an enormous blood debt to the non-Muslim world, and it is drawing interest -- in spite of sharia finance.

'Moejoe1983', another alternate account of the pedophile worshiper 'danny'/'chowching'/'philo vaihinger'.

I agree with those who sigh at Romney's signs of hedging -- including his glib "reprehensible".

...Mitt's knee-jerk attack on the movie is a bad sign. He has no obligation to apologize for a 14 min trailer. We have a murdered US Ambassador.

FDR: "We apologize to the Japanese pilots as the explosion from the USS Arizona may have blown out their eardrums." FDR never said that...

Imagine FDR apologizing to "the German people" for Spike Jones' Der Fuehrer's Face.

Good God, I'm sick of this shit.

Indeed, as you said:-

"If he does not win we are in deep trouble"

I know Jihadwatc and or Zionist inspired violence would advance

Great things ordinarily come incrementally and/or one at a time. The surrender at Yorktown by the British in 1781 effectively gave the Americans independence. It didn't free the slaves, give women the right to vote or give us decaffeinated coffee that tastes as good as regular.

And so it is here with Romney's speech. It's incrementality in perfect form, which is to say that it is flawed respecting what COULD and SHOULD have been said but quite wonderful in moving things in the right direction. Those who would criticize this speech for not expediting things respecting the truth about Islam have an abstract point that is valid but it is a point rooted in aridity and not in historicity.

When Romney is elected, we will see what he does...What he says now can be subject to rapid change...No matter what, he is far better than Obama...we already know he is a disaster...A voter Rasool O is a vote for fraud, forgery and treason...Mitt is not yet guilty of any of those...

I concede a fair amount of wisdom in your forebodings, which I share. I'd much prefer if US foreign policy allowed the Islamic world to stew in its own disfunctional juices for a while, and not try to bet on the goodwill of whoever wins the latest round of mutually suspicious, conspiracy-mongering, hate-filled fratricide in that corner of the world.

However, much as I dislike Mormonism and consider its so-called "prophet" one of the great hokum-bunkum men of the Golden Age of American hokum-bunkum,I will still vote for Romney over Obama. Removing the Obama administration is a crucial task for this electorate, no matter how pessimistic I am about the outcome. As I've noted in my posts following the Benghazi attack, the O's administration has a track record of throwing the First Amdendment rights of non-client groups under the bus to please the administration's client groups. This is a very great danger to the American body politic, and one which is perhaps too "theoretical" for the short-sighted people who congratulate themselves on being "practical" who make up the majority of our electorate (right or left), but which nonetheless cries out for attention.

Come on Robert. Please. Romney supports a Muslim enemy state in Israel.

There is something wrong with you my boy...You should run quick to the doctor and find out what it is...I suspect an inability to cope with adult life, but it could be involutional melancholia...possibly a mood and thought disorder...Your doctor will know...

Here is an article on "Reza Aslan and his unscholarly hiding of the true cause of the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857 in India.

He wants us to believe it was the West's fault.

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/08/10/proof-reza-aslanmuslim-intellectual-from-iranis-no-realhonest-scholarpart-5/

AND ALSO

"Tipu Sultan (1750-1799) of India,Cruel Persecutor of the Hindus and St.Thomas Christians of Southern India"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/10/08/tipu-sultan-1750-1799-of-indiacruel-persecutor-of-the-hindus-and-st-thomas-christians-of-southern-india/

Moejoe1983 wrote:

All of that pales in significance when compared to the atrocities the US has, and continues to, commit against the Muslim world. 1) Invasion, occupation, rape, torture and massacre against Iraq and Afghanistan 2) Regular drone bombings in Yemen and Pakistan that kill dozen of civilians in one drop.
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What absolute crap. No matter how inconsistent, our actions in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been attempts to deal with the Jihad threat.

By the way, "Moejoe", America wasn't in Afghanistan or involved in drone attacks in 2001 when nineteen of your vicious coreligionists flew hijacked planes into the World Trade Center and murdered almost three thousand people—what was the excuse of Muslims then?

It's Jihad, and nothing more—all the rest is just the "grievance de jour".

I'm tired of this crap too. Mitt has two degrees from Harvard and this bringing up the "film" is depressing and inappropriate in his big foreign policy speech from VMI. I can't imagine Winston Churchill bringing up something so trivial at his Iron Curtain speech.

We're stuck in a poor leadership generation.

A bit of good news today:
Poll: Romney takes lead among likely voters
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4289833,00.html

Wellington,

Romney could have retained his "incrementality" and refrained from condemning the Mohammed film.

Romney needs to rally the troops - not serenade them!!


    wage perpetual war...

- Obama knows all he has to do is to give Muslims what they want - that is to make us all dhimmis - and we could see the beginning of the end of this war - tomorrow!!

We could sign an Islamic 'peace' treaty - within a week!!

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Romney says:

    It is the struggle of millions and millions of people—men and women, young and old, Muslims, Christians and non-believers—

Romney seems certain there are thriving groups of non-believers in the Middle East!!

No - Romney that's only in the free world.


    Unfortunately, so many of these people who could be our friends feel that our President is indifferent to their quest for freedom and dignity. As one Syrian woman put it, “We will not forget that you forgot about us.”

But the trouble is - these same Syrians - when they thought Iran was on their side - with all that posturing alongside Hezbollah - America was likely enemy number 1.

Now they are crying out for the US to help - but with these external players Syria is a minefield.


Romney is right on the indifference towards allies - although we do have differences - we call these countries - allies for a reason.

To prove it - Obama's new found Muslim friends are asking - for what he can't give. And making threatening noises if they don't get it. Unabashed - they demand that - he - do away with our freedoms!


Romney needs to get better informed - on these issues!!

If he had, it wouldn't have added up to much "incrementality."

"...the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857 in India.

He wants us to believe it was the West's fault."

So do, I'd wager, the majority of non-Muslim Hindus.

I know exactly, Zionist allies and IDF did killed hundreds of babies in Shatila and Sabra as well as using chemical weapons in Gaza they killed many babies.

That was no flower petal throwing by the state sponsor terrorist army call IDF et el.

As Spencer points out, there are other things wrong with the speech -- plenty of incrementality there to work with, without having to rub salt in our wounds with a gratuitous "reprehensible". Just say "a film about Mohammed", no need to lay it on thick.

I just happened by chance to bump into a JW comments thread three years old (September of Ought Nine):

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/new-york-jihad-suspect-hey-i-dont-have-al-qaeda-ties-and-i-aint-talking-to-the-feds-anymore.html

It's depressing to read, because I and a few others were fed up then, and nothing's really changed. Incremental is one thing, but a slug sliding backward on its slime is another.

"reprehensible video insulting Islam".

I find nothing reprehensible about the video, I find everything done by muslims in the name of islam to be evil, wicked, and truly reprehensible.

I wish there was make a "muhammed story video day". lets flood You tube with amateur mo videos.

I'd have thought that as Secretary of State, when one of her employeees is murdered doing his job, that decides the priority.

It's not rocket science, merely a question of values.

As we've seen, hers are highly questionable.

Speaking as an ex-diplomat, diplomats belong to their political masters 24-7--or, more like 25-8.

Still, I believe our current SecState's responses to Stevens' murder were off the mark and inappropriate. Instead of leaping to bring unearned prominence to the rightly obscure Makoula Nakoula (a cocnvicted fraudster who'd violate parole), she should have laid out the facts that RPG attacks mean more than a flash mob, that the USA strongly condemns the murder, and, that the USA has the First Amendment, which means that all of us are free to speak our minds. As it was, when someone finally reminded her about the last point, her defense of the First Amendment sounded tinny, and almost as if she were trying to speak a foreign language which she hadn't quite mastered.

The worst thing of all is that the worst elements in the Islamic world are using classic American liberal guilt feelings (incredible in people whose ideology tends to deny that there's any such thing as true moral guilt over a broken divine law) to extract concessions from us, including that horrible willingness to support an international blasphemy law sponsored by the OIC.

I re-read that thread you provided a link to (thanks) and I would argue things have begun to change. In the past three years Merkel of Germany has said that multiculturalism has failed, thinly veiled code for the idiocy of letting Muslims into Europe. Numerous state legislatures in America have made illegal certain provisions of Sharia. Some Congressmen, for instance Gingrich, West and Bachman, have very publicly stated their concerns about Sharia worming its way into American law. And so on and so on.

Is this enough? No, of course not. But I see progress in the last three years, including a world at large that is slowly but firmly coming to the conclusion that Islam is really, really screwed up. As I've written before here at JW, we are in a new Hundred Years War and, while I understand the impatience of people like yourself (I too sometimes get impatient over this issue), I cannot see Islam eventually triumphing over liberty. It's too inflexible, too barbaric, too absurd and too stupid for this to occur, but it will take time---and money---and blood for Islam finally to be put on the trash heap of history. In short, one of the differences between you and me is that you see the glass half empty here and I see it half full.

Ventura is a total nut job (virtually no one from Minnesota regardless of political peruasion has anything good to say about him) and Paul has opined many times, as Robert Spencer and many others have noted, that 9/11 was basically our fault. Paul is so naive about Islam that he really does believe if we just leave the Middle East then the more "devout" Muslims will leave us alone. Can't get much more naive than this.

And don't forget that in one of the Republican primary debates last Spring, Paul faulted Obama for knocking off bin Laden, stupidly comparing our killing of bin Laden with what we would think if some foreign power came into our country and killed someone. Such moral equivalency thinking is appalling. I'm no Obama fan as you know, but he was right to take out bin Laden (and al-Awlaki) and Paul was dead wrong about this. If there is any major American public figure out there who is even worse than Obama on Islam, it's Paul. Fitting you should think so highly of him.

I was referring more to the progress, or lack of it, of Jihad Watchers in the way they analyze the problem, and in the way they leap at crumbs to gullibly gobble them up as though nutritious (like Lara Logan's).

Wellington: As someone who greatly respected Ron Paul, shook his hand, and counted his legislative assistant as a personal friend, I also find Paul's response to first 9/11 and then the killing of Bin Laden appalling. While I am no admirer of Obama,and (as has been evident from my responses to our official response to the Benghazi killing) appalled by a number of his foreign policy decisions, I'm glad that he OK'd the Seals' pulling the trigger (although I can't imagine any halfway responsible POTUS doing anything else, except, perhaps taking the jerk alive if feasible).

I honor Ventura's military service as I do yours but that does not make a veteran immune from criticism in other walks of life. Ventura was a disaster as Governor. Most everyone knows that in Minnesota.

As for Ron Paul, the man simply refuses to grasp even the rudiments of Islamic ideology. His foreign policy proposals are so isolationist that they err in the ooposite direction of those who rightfully can be criticized for wanting involvement by America when it shouldn't occur. He even, as I already mentioned, criticized the killing of bin Laden! The man is as naive about Islam as you can get, though I have often conceded that with respect to some domestic matters, Paul makes a lot of sense.

And I am not, as you put it, someone who thought Bush was a great leader. Bush was OK, certainly better than Obama, but it is you who does the tedious rah, rah, rah stuff for Obama while virtually no one here at JW, at least none that I know of, thinks Bush was spot on with most everything he did. As I already mentioned to you in a previous post, were you to go back and read JW from when Bush was President you you find significant criticism of him for sundry reasons. It is you who sees things in only black and white and, really, you have become a bore with you Bush bashing and Obama promoting. Put a lid on it, will ya'?

Finally, would you learn to break up your writing into paragraphs. Give it a shot.

You wrote:

"Too you and your pal champ, I extend the olive branch of peace and apologize for my past insults to you and your party."

"your pal champ"? ...how condescending and rude.

Your comment is like saying you're sorry while smacking me across the face. You start out by insulting me, and then you pretend to extend an "olive branch" to me? ...all in one sentence, no less. Sorry, apology not accepted. Why should I?

You know what, I've changed my mind ...

I do accept your shitty apology.

There are more important issues at hand ..like defeating jihad and seeing obama defeated this November.

*nobama 2012*

GO ROMNEY!!

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