Sharia in action in Arizona: Muslim family burns and beats daughter, padlocks her to bed for refusing arranged marriage

Look at their awful faces. They should have been refused immigration on those alone. This religion of hate stamps its features on the faces of its adherents.

No odor is more obnoxious to a Muslim than the odor of barbequed swine; they would rather smell s-hit. But Infidels on their day of worship fill the air with the scent of burnt pork, when carried by the wind the odor creeps into the nostrils of every Muslim. Infidels can be better tolerated if they would cook their swine thousands of miles away from Muslim communities.

Stories such as this always bring this questions to mind: Why are these barbarians allowed to enter this country?? What do they bring here except for all the barbaric teachings of Islam, Quran and Mo/allah!!!

The question may be, why do they do it?

Since most Muslims are semi-clueless about what Islamic scripture says, when they do these barbaric things, its safe to say they are manifesting, or channelling Islam, through a lifetime of subconsciously absorbing Islamic conventions, rather than consciously following a prescribed set of Islamic rules (which they might as well be, given the content of Islamic scripture, which is often even worse).

When it becomes apparent to them that they are doing something vile, usually after being called out by us "infidels", one, they deny they are doing it, and two, other semi-clueless Muslims deny it is about Islam.

It is the Muslim male who should be most ashamed of remaining in Islam. Most especially the Muslim father. And far too often the sons are just as trapped as are the daughters in the cruel cult of Mohammedanism.

We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy acknowledge that Mohammedanism is inherently misogynistic.

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Should Women Respect Muhammad and His Islam?

Muslims love to claim that Islam has granted women equal rights. Sadly, this is not true. The Qur'an states several times that women are to be granted less rights then those enjoyed by men.

This article will examine the status of women and their rights according to Islam, as well as some of the many disgusting things that Muhammad said regarding women.

The inherent oppression and degradation of women in Islam is abhorrent. For every good thing Muhammad’s Islam says about women, one can easily find a passage referring to women in the most unkindly of lights. Such is the reality of the fundamentally contradictory religion of Islam. One minute Islam is the perfect religion of peace and justice - the next it commands Muslims to maim, murder and subjugate others. Muslim women should learn the truth about Islam, and fast, if they truly care about their daughters and the future of women in general.

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In controversial verse 4:34 of the Qur'an, men are told to beat their disobedient wives after first warning them and then sending them to sleep in separate beds. This horrendous verse approves of and even sanctions, domestic abuse. As we shall see momentarily, Islamic theology also permits slavery and rape. No person of sound mind and good heart could believe that this is the wish of god. Islam is nothing more than the cult of a long dead, selfish little mad man named Muhammad ibn Abdullah.

Qur'an, 4:34

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

Here is an examination of how other translators render this controversial passage:

Pickthall: "and scourge them"
Yusuf Ali: "(And last) beat them (lightly)"
Al-Hilali/Khan: "(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)"
Shakir: "and beat them"
Sher Ali: "and chastise them"
Khalifa: "then you may (as a last alternative) beat them"
Arberry: "and beat them"
Rodwell: "and scourge them"
Sale: "and chastise them"
Asad: "then beat them"

Hadith, Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142:

Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

The Qur'an permits men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls if they want to do so:

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"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice"

The Qur'an compares women to a field (tilth) that a man is free to use when, and as he chooses:

002:223
Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

According to Muhammad and his Islam, a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man’s:

002:282 "Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her"

Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 1, Book 6, No. 301:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

The Qur'an allows men to marry pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated.

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YUSUFALI: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

PICKTHAL: And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.

SHAKIR: And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Muhammad was a deranged con man who has betrayed women. Muhammad has betrayed all of mankind, in fact. Here is some more of what Muhammad said and did:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 460:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."

Hadith, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

"By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel's saddle." -- Ibn Majah 1854

The new featured family on this season's "All American Muslim?" What are these people doing here? I mean, really, who's allowing these people in here? It should be clear that they didn't come here to embrace freedom. But, now WE have to pick up the tab for their little islamic soap-opera? Sorry, we don't need this; so, take your islamic baggage back to dar al-islam from whence you came...

Al Jazheera reports that most young Afghans want to leave their country and go to the West.

We can expect a deluge of Afghan young men to the West after we get out of that country.

Of course they will bring their rich cultural heritage to enrich us.

Mohammed threatens muslims with "the eternal fire" and then the muslims are so grateful that they are spared from Mohammed's flames that they worship him.

Islam is Stockholm Syndrome.

Sounds like the judge gave the victim a little bit of abuse as well. Shouldn't some of the psychological evaluations of the victim's state of mind find their way into the record and into the thinking of the judge as to punishments?

The abusing Muslims pled guilty? So the record doesn't contain evidence of the "cultural misunderstandings" (code word for Islam)that usually attend to this sort of abuse?

Looking at this rogue's gallery, then reading the lurid details of what could be called an honor torture, one might wonder: Is Islam a cause or a result of devolution?
Darwin was accepted and popular because he argued that species evolve. We now need someone brave enough to show how things can go in the opposite direction.

You cannot trust anyone who has the Islam virus. ie any muslim.

The Muslims in the above pictures as well as many other Muslim have shown that Islam is a cruel ,brutal and cold hearted religion. This they have proven by their own actions.

Readers should not focus unduly on the female victim of this case to the point where they lose sight of the female perpetrator -- the mother: yet another Muslima in a long line of Muslimas who have been shown to be fanatics for their Islam: a datum we ignore or, in our gender sentimentality (or, for the ex-Muslims among us, our fond nostalgia of our mother's and grandmother's home cooking), minimize, at our future peril.

Are those their mugshots? So the mother was able to wear her hijab in the mugshot? If so, that is a disgrace. And where’s Muslima junior’s hijab? Maybe she’ll be the next one tortured for that offense by this family of Koranimals.

Also, probation? Seriously? I’m not an attorney, but you can imprison and torture a person and get only probation?

Trouble in France again, they shot dead the Muslim who was thought to have thrown a grenade in a Jewish shop in September, 10 others arrested. You wanted this multiculturalism France, now you're going to have to deal with it.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-2213757%2FIslamic-radical-shot-dead-anti-terrorism-police-France-opening-offices-dawn-raid.html&ei=rkRwUM6DMY-6iAfwiYGoAQ&usg=AFQjCNHuC3cWbp1sU9dITexcCFAd1wJ_ig&sig2=2fna1DFWXtLGpixsxLVRwg

Women in Islam live in paralyzing fear of what would happen if she asked and did what she wanted in life instead of doing what culture and parents want them to do .

It is installed in these women in early age … girls are taught to obey not only fathers but brothers too and if they don't the fear of what would happen to them …

these Muslim girls are convinces they are responsible for the honer of all her male family members .. so I am not surprised to know she tried to cover for them abusing her.

The shame and fear is overwhelming … it is not easy to rid one self with that kind mind control .

It has crossed my mind that chowching may be a comic trying out new material rather than a deluded Muslim (excuse the redundancy). But even if so, he's become excessively tedious. So, he's either a bad comic or a good Muslim. Just wish the guy would go away. I'm sure many do. But something tells me we won't be blessed anytime soon by his absence.

@chowching

I hear there may have been instances, when chosens BBQed Amalekites carcasses and fed them self after sabbat. All kind of weird thing happened in those days during first holocaust, too bad Amelekites are no more to start a holocaust business, I guess.

In many Jewish communities, including Haredi Jews also follows arranged marriages known as "Shedchan" by parents, relatives as well as professional community matchmakers in exchange for money. Many Jewish parents are actively involved in the matchmaking for arranged marriages. There are instances of forced not only among Jews but also of Christian parents.

This article is another ISLAMOPHOBIA spreading machine's propaganda and hate piece with 75% lies and 25% truth.

Spread love not hate among humanity.

Here is what Jewish and or Christian Sharia says, not much of a difference than what the Moslem religion says:-

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

This doesn't make any sense what so ever!

Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!

Weird stuff and religious violence started by the religion of Moses and not Islam.

Spreading ISLAMOPHOBIA will not help the Zionist to permanently occupy Palestine.

Creating a viable Palestinian state and return of the Palestinian refugees to their home is a must and that is the bottom line.

All these ISLAMOPHOBIA crap spreading is not going to work !

Majority of the U.S. population along with majority of the Israeli population are getting sick and tired of violence instigated by the right wing Zionist new-con Jews with the help from few so-called Christian groups in the United States.

I can see Obama is grinding his tooth as he is looking at Nathanyahu. Wait till he get re-elected.

As I said, I think ISLAMOPHOBIA and hate spreading is pre-planned neo-con right wing Zionist smoke screen to incite, prepare for western and American public opinion for more violence in the middle-east to make occupation of Palestine permanent and loot hydrocarbon and funds that it generate.

That is not going to happen.

I don't think majority of American public is going to support further carnage in the middle-east for the right wing neo-con Jews that you may represent or maybe their foot soldier.

Greetings to you, classicus. Hope you are well.

Yes, chowching is almost certainly just another dreary Mohammedan, but I had to opine to the effect that he could be a bad comedian to convey, as I have several times before here at JW, that the thinking of Muslims, which I call "Muslimthink," and parodies of "Muslimthink" are often so similar it's hard to separate the two, which, of course, functions as yet another major condemnation of the worst religion by far mankind has been saddled with.

This similarity between fact and farce is one of the reasons why I think Islam is headed for the trash heap of history, as the world at large, finally coming to comprehend just how ridiculous Islam is, will embrace the mockery of it as being something just as deadly as deadly confrontation of it (forever clueless hardline leftists being the exception here of course).

Take care, my friend. Hope to see you here at JW more times rather than fewer.

In the Hebrew Bible, Genesis 22:12 there is a passage where Abraham was about to slay his son Isaac for what he thought was God's purposes. An angel provided a substitute. God does not want his adherents to sacrifice anyone.

These idiots must not have learned this lesson. Human sacrifice is against everything in the Jewish and Christian religions. I'm not sure why anyone in the Islamic faith would think this is a good idea.

Note to Islamic apologists: You do yourselves no favors by failing to condemn such behavior. I don't care what kind of religion Islam is, there is no excuse for murder --not even infidels.

‘Beggars cannot be choosers’ except in the West including USA where we see them turningout to be DICTATORS...
Should withdraw forces from their havens and let them finish their job by themselves. Why waste money and preciuos life for a worthless job for these worthless creatures...

Remarks to Jewish Sharia! A ridiculous thought in concept.
Sharia is a Islamic court ruling over every aspect of moslem
life. In the true spirit of submission, don't think, just obey. The only religious court that existed in Judaism was
the Sanhedrin, and this ended with the Roman destruction of
Jerusalem in 71 ce. Hareidi can leave their enclaves any time they want. They will lose their family affiliation but
fear no harm from religious killer commandos. I am sure
that every sane Christian would comdemn the activities of the inquisition and church oppression of the pre-enlightenment and the separation church and state in one of
the greatest steps in human history. It ensures true faith
and not subjugation and gives people choices, gives them the
possibility to use their brains, even if not well, it's their choice.
To biblical draconism. The Sanhedrin existed since the times
of Moses. In the times of the Davidic Kingdom (1000 BCE) Jewish identity was centralized around Jerusalim. All Jews
were obligated to come to Jerusalem during the Pilgrim Festivals three times a year. The Sanhedrin took on a central role in the judicial development. There is a jewish
saying "If blood is once shed in 70 years though the verdict
of the court it is deemed a bloody court." This led to an
intricate labyrinth of red tape before a death sentence could be imposed with the consequence that is never was.
The scripture of the Torah is path finding, showing the magnitude of various laws and rules of behaviour. The jewish law is expressed in the Mishna and not in the Torah.
If you don't know what the Mishna is, and have not read it,
then don't talk about something in which you're illiterate or please tell us you are illiterate so that we may judge your rambling for what it is. With all respect for the truth. A person is judged by what he does and not what he
says.

Danny

Before you accuse people of lying about Quran, where it says All prophets were Muslims .GO READ FOR YOUR SELF , FIRST other wise you risking sounding silly to people who KNOW and could bring you proves …

these days poster and readers here know Quran and Islam more then Muslims themselves …and all thanks to Islamic violent acts .

Proof Quran talked about first Muslims .. there is many more …

3/67 … Abraham was the first Muslim … and 7/143 Muses was the first Muslim .

While I am no Jewish, Christian or an Islamic scholar or even close to it...

That's a fact, and the reason you're in over your head here posting to people who did their homework and know what they are talking about...
You lag far behind...You should be trying learn something rather than spouting nonsense...

Tens of millions of new born baby girls and some not born yet are being killed in India on a daily basis. This is no ancient practicTe. It is happening right now, even, upper middle-class Indhoo family practice such horrible crimes.

Ya right, everything is nothing but B.S. Behind ISLAMOPHOBIA is nothing but empty propaganda by the right wing neo-con Zionist to permanently occupy Palestine using violence, pillage and plunder.

Help bring democracy like what has happened in Egypt.

Love humanity and stop spreading ISLAMOPHOBIA and LIES.

Wow fanny danny has exceeded himself on this tread. To actually come out and say he is ignorant of the korant and then proceed to lecture us on how evil we all are. He claims how racist we all are then pours out his neo-nazi bile against the jews.

Nice, misdemeanor charges. Oh, they will be out in just a few months, and will come back to finish the job.

The daughter knew that, that's why she had to do whatever she could to show her loyalty to her family.

Next report on this family will be her obituary.

This is all, of course, Robert, Pam, Raymond, etc. fault, you know. If it wasn't for us greasy Islamaphonbes, they wouldnt have to beat their daughter...on US soil.

Certainly more to come if Obama, the great appeaser of jihadists, wins another 4 years...

One word - "immigration"

That's how the Muslim population increases disproportionately to every other group in Europe.

[It's 3 children + a marriage partner for each - from the old country = 6 children]

When the girls in particular don't want to go through with this generational sham-marriage-game - they threaten to kill them or they kill them.

If we understand anything - it is that they may kill their children. The whole family may be involved and then they dump the offending child in an unmarked grave.

Western society can do better for these girls than that!!

Let's get the facts - the intent was forced marriage - that this girl was refusing to go along with.

What would normally happen is that - the man no doubt from Iraq - would get a US passport when they marry. She would thereafter have to be subjected to whatever - he decides. And their children would be fetched out for the same.

Islamic communities are sham-central!

[And this is not the integrating crowd! They will want Shari'a. Or to abolish western freedoms.]

'Danny' is a Mohammedan dementor, I'd swear it.

His reflexive and repeated use of crude Tu Quoque in this thread is a dead giveaway. I never met a Mohammedan boggart or dementor, in this forum, who was able to refrain from using Tu Quoque.

Another giveaway? - his multiple frantic attempts to drive this thread offtopic; to distract us, to prevent us from focusing on a very typical example of (in this case, attempted, rather than achieved) Mohammedan 'honor' murder, that is, the ritual human sacrifice of a nubile female. Everything 'danny has posted in this comments thread can be most easily interpreted as an attempt to take the heat off Islam, off Muslim Islam-inspired behaviour patterns; to prevent us at all costs from looking steadily at this case of attempted 'honor' murder. He is trying to protect Islam from critical, sceptical scrutiny.

So the first thing to do is to go right back up, and reread the posted article; because that will stymy, automatically, what he has been trying to do. Also, within the thread, reread what 'fineliving', an ex-Muslim, has posted. **She knows** and she is not standing for 'danny's' BS for one split second.

This kind of killing is rife throughout the Muslim world, and it is distinctively different from the sorts of family violence found in non-Muslim societies including the West.

A couple of articles by Phyllis Chesler discussing just this topic:

http://www.meforum.org/2067/are-honor-killings-simply-domestic-violence

Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?
by Phyllis Chesler
Middle East Quarterly
Spring 2009, pp. 61-69

http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/764/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings

Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings
by Phyllis Chesler
Middle East Quarterly
Spring 2010

Danny's attempts at Tu Quoque do not work. Muslim 'honor' murders of females are different from the modern western practice of abortion or the practice of infanticide in parts of India, in that the sharia of Islam - the *religious* system of Islam - supports and encourages and even *prescribes* vigilante violence and extrajudicial killing even of one's own family members if they behave unislamically; whereas although abortion is *legal* in the modern west, it has never been *religiously* sanctioned, promoted or sacralised, and although female infanticide is practised in parts of India, so far as I know it is formally illegal and there are activists working hard to prevent it and stamp out the practice. Neither abortion (in the West) nor infanticide (in India) are integral or foundational parts of the culture - whereas the killing of girls and women occurs everywhere that Islam is, and seems to be bound into the warp and woof of Islamic societies.

Ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish in her book on sharia 'Cruel and Usual Punishment' states that she never, in all the time of her growing up in Islamic Egypt, *ever* heard any Islamic cleric explicitly condemn and denounce the practice. Part 1, chapter 3, 'Women, the Centre of Oppression', section entitled 'Killing for Honor', she writes - "Decades ago when I lived in Egypt, we were all aware of the hush-hush topic of honor killing. The religious community was silent about it, and we always presumed that it was supported by religion since no religious leaders ever condemned it"..."They say Islam has nothing to do with honor killing, but I have never heard a Friday sermon prohibiting it and quoting scriptures that condemn it. Men who commit that crime are rarely punished, and even then the punishment is very light...".

And the astute observer, 'Spengler', in a classic little article
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LE25Ak01.html

Wife-beating, sharia, and Western law

writes

"Islam's legal system is radically different [from that of Western countries - dda]: the father is a "governor" or "administrator" of the family, that is, a little sovereign within his domestic realm, with the right to employ violence to control his wife and children.

"That is the self-understanding of modern Islam spelled out by Muslim-American scholars - and it is incompatible with the Western concept of human rights.

"The practice of wife-beating, which is found in Muslim communities in Western countries, is embedded too profoundly in sharia law to be extracted.

"Nowhere to my knowledge has a Muslim religious authority of standing repudiated wife-beating as specified in Surah 4:32 of the Koran, for to do so would undermine the foundations of Muslim society.

"**By extension, the power of the little sovereign of the family can include the killing of wayward wives and female relations.** {my emphasis - dda}.

"Execution for domestic crimes, often called "honor killing", is not mentioned in the Koran, but the practice is so widespread in Muslim countries - the United Nations Population Fund estimates an annual toll of 5,000 - that it is recognized in what we might term Islamic common law."

Just to repeat that - "the practice is so widespread in Muslim countries - the United Nations Population Fund estimates an annual toll of 5,000 - that it is recognized in what we might term Islamic common law" (and he goes on to note that" Muslim courts either do not prosecute so-called honor killings, or prosecute them more leniently than other crimes...".

That is the sort of thing that, at all costs, 'danny' the mohammedtroll in a mask - I don't believe for one second his spurious claim not to be a Muslim! - does not want us to think about. It is why he has spent this thread throwing showers of sand in all directions.