After launching over 100 rockets into Israel from Gaza, jihadis say “Israel has declared war”

Note the bias of this Reuters report: the rockets from Gaza into Israel were fired by no one, they just arrived there in passive voice, and they aren’t even mentioned until the seventeenth paragraph. The emphasis is all on Israel’s defensive moves, as if they were gratuitous.

“Israel kills Hamas commander, bombs Gaza targets,” by Nidal al-Mughrabi for Reuters, November 14:

GAZA (Reuters) – Israel killed the military commander of the Islamist group Hamas in a missile strike on the Gaza Strip on Wednesday and launched air raids across the enclave, pushing the two sides to the brink of a new war.

The attacks marked the biggest escalation between Israel and Gaza militants since a 2008-2009 conflict and came despite signs on Tuesday that neighboring Egypt had managed to broker a truce in the enclave after a five day surge of violence.

Hamas said Ahmed Al-Jaabari, who ran the organization’s armed wing, Izz el-Deen Al-Qassam, died along with an unnamed associate when their car was blown apart by an Israeli missile. Palestinians said nine people were killed, including a seven-year-old girl.

Video from Gaza showed the charred and mangled wreckage of a car belching flames, as emergency crews picked up what appeared to be body parts.

Israel confirmed it had carried out the attack on Jaabari and warned that more strikes would follow. Reuters witnesses reported numerous explosions around Gaza, with Hamas security compounds and police stations among the targets.

“This is an operation against terror targets of different organizations in Gaza,” military spokesman Avital Leibovitch told reporters, adding that Jaabari had “a lot of blood on his hands”.

Immediate calls for revenge were broadcast over Hamas radio.

“The occupation has opened the doors of hell,” Hamas’s armed wing said. Smaller groups also vowed to strike back.

“Israel has declared war on Gaza and they will bear the responsibility for the consequences,” Islamic Jihad said.

The escalation in Gaza came in a week when Israel pounded Syrian artillery positions it said had fired into the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights amid a civil war in Syria that has brought renewed instability to neighboring Lebanon.

Hamas has been supported by both Syria and Iran, which Israel regards as a rising threat to its own existence due to its nuclear program.

Israel’s intelligence agency Shin Bet said Jaabari was responsible for Hamas’ takeover of the Gaza Strip in 2007, when the militant Islamist group ousted fighters of the Fatah movement of its great rival, the Western-backed Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.

It said Jaabari instigated the attack that led to the capture of Israeli corporal Gilad Shalit in a kidnap raid from Gaza in 2006. Jaabari was also the man who handed Shalit over to Israel in a prisoner exchange five years after his capture.

Israel holds a general election on January 22 and conservative Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has come under pressure to respond firmly against Hamas, with residents of southern Israel complaining bitterly about repeated missile strikes

Hamas has been emboldened by the rise to power in neighboring Egypt of its spiritual mentors in the Muslim Brotherhood whom it views as a “safety net”.

Some 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis died in the 2008-2009 conflict. There was a lull in hostilities after that, but the violence has flared again in recent months and Israel has repeatedly warned of dire consequences unless Hamas and its fellow militants stopped rocket attacks.

In the latest confrontation, which appeared to have ended on Tuesday, more than 115 missiles were fired into southern Israel from Gaza and Israeli planes launched numerous strikes. Seven Palestinians, three of them gunmen, were killed. Eight Israeli civilians were hurt by rocket fire and four soldiers wounded by an anti-tank missile….

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  1. says

    How can anyone fail to admire the Israelis? They don’t take crap from anyone! Especially Islam.

    I note from news sources that there is an extended operation currently underway to prune the Hamas leadership structure that has been 100% responsible for firing rockets at civilians in Israel.

    Go Israel!

  2. says

    Oh ISRAEL has declared war, eh? Yea right!

    Well the killing of a Hamas commander is indeed good news so let the games begin …in fact I’ll do a happy dance! My hope is that Israel take out ALL of Hamas; as this would be a fitting end to that evil mob.

    Go Israel! …now and forever!

  3. says

    Another example of topsy-turvy Muslim logic!! They are always blameless! How can they ever start a war, they never did that in last 1400 years. there are enough brain dead dhimmis in our countries who believe them and always blame their own country.

  4. says

    After launching over 100 rockets into Israel from Gaza, jihadis say “Israel has declared war”
    …………………….

    And how are they getting away with this bald-faced crap? Often, the MSM enables them.

    For instance, check out this not unrelated story from AP:

    “Israeli tanks strike Syrian launcher”

    http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Israeli-tanks-strike-Syrian-launcher-4031347.php

    The headline doesn’t even note that Israel targeted the artillery launcher because they had fired into Israel.

    And then the photo caption reads “Smoke rises after shells fired by the Syrian army exploded in the Syrian village of Bariqa, near the Israeli border. Israel responded militarily after a stray mortar shell flew into its territory”.

    Note what they are doing here”a casual reader would see this as *Israel* attacking a Syrian village. And then, they characterize the mortar shell launched into Israel as a “stray mortar shell”.

    This implies that Israel is both overreacting to a mistake, and is targeting Syrian villagers. Appalling.

    More:

    Note the bias of this Reuters report: the rockets from Gaza into Israel were fired by no one, they just arrived there in passive voice, and they aren’t even mentioned until the seventeenth paragraph. The emphasis is all on Israel’s defensive moves, as if they were gratuitous.
    …………………….

    Just like in the AP story I cite. There Are *many, many* others. In fact, this is”disgustingly”the most common format of stories dealing with Israel.

    The worst thing is that I doubt many readers even pick up on the “subtle” bias, and simply come away from the stories with a diminished opinion of Israel.

    More:

    Israel’s intelligence agency Shin Bet said Jaabari was responsible for Hamas’ takeover of the Gaza Strip in 2007, when the militant Islamist group ousted fighters of the Fatah movement of its great rival, the Western-backed Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.
    …………………….

    Hamas didn’t just “oust” Fatah members”it *slaughtered them*, even following the wounded into hospitals to finish them off.

    And where did Fatah turn to escape from the homicidal fellow Jihadists? To Israel, of course”although you’d never learn it from this article.

    And MSM coverage at the time mostly focused on criticism of Israel, for insisting on screening Jihadists fleeing Gaza for suicide vests and weaponry, rather than simply opening the checkpoints and allowing them to flood in.

    More:

    Hamas has been emboldened by the rise to power in neighboring Egypt of its spiritual mentors in the Muslim Brotherhood whom it views as a “safety net”.
    …………………….

    Well, *this* is a surprising admission”but a fact that JW readers understand all too well.

    More:

    In the latest confrontation, which appeared to have ended on Tuesday, more than 115 missiles were fired into southern Israel from Gaza and Israeli planes launched numerous strikes. Seven Palestinians, three of them gunmen, were killed. Eight Israeli civilians were hurt by rocket fire and four soldiers wounded by an anti-tank missile….
    …………………….

    Finally”in the very last paragraph”an admission that Israeli civilians were injured in the Jihad attacks.

    And recall, in the “inverted pyramid” style used by all news stories, that the latter paragraphs are often cut by smaller newspapers, whose readership hence would never even see this…

  5. says

    Hamas, and the rest of your odius ilk, come on. Get real! You’ve declared war on Israel many many times over, Israel hasn’t declared war–yet. Nahhh, not yet. But if they ever do, they will let you know, rest every night(if you can) assured, they’ll get back to you on that.

    And even though we’ve got you-know-who and what for a potus, never say never, that Israel may be all alone, abandoned, to her own devices. Sometimes, realities become a desert mirage. Your old pal, hitler, learned that, too, figgered he had a sure-fire plan, he did.

  6. says

    If Israel is ever foolish enough to give these peoples a state in Judea and Samaria, if they bow to international and White House pressure, this is what the West Bank will look like; full of rocket like Gaza. Even Mitt Romney fought conservatives for the Palestinian cause.

  7. says

    Israel really needs to prioritize its defense policy. The IDF is stretched too thin, protecting scrappy settlements of Haredi nutbars who eschew conscription. It’s time for Israel to turn its back on the settlements, withdraw from majority Palestinian territories, and direct all resources to defending Israel proper. And Haredim need to be forced into military service, or kicked out of the country.

    Israel will NEVER have national security, until the Palestinians have a sovereign, stable country, with a functioning economy. A non-functioning, non-sovereign territory full of desperate people who resent an occupying army is a perfect base for foreign powers (Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia)to use for fighting a proxy war. Palestinian statehood, coherent borders (no settlements), and massive economic restructuring is the only way to get Hezbollah and Hamas out of the region.

    The international community also has to close off the supply lines that feed the Katyusha builders. This probably won’t happen, though, as Russia is protecting Syria. And Iran has friends in strange places, such as the Armenians:

    http://www.tert.am/en/news/2012/01/09/washingtontimes/

    Iran and Armenia are friends, because the Iranians have a large and restive Azeri minority. The Azeris are Shi’a Muslims, but the Iranians would rather be in bed with Christians, here. Even with sanctions against Iran, arms and the like still flow into the country, via Armenia, from Russia, and some of this eventually ends up in Palestine. And With the large Armenian diaspora in the U.S., nothing will be done about this.

  8. says

    Looking at this version, of the above referenced site from Tom Pellow, the photos are amazing

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/massed-israeli-troops-poised-for-invasion-of-gaza-8316615.html?action=gallery&ino=1

    Pinpoint is right. No crater, front end of car nearly new and untouched, including the wheels and hubcap and front end nearly intact, the cabin scrubbed clean and now quite topless, and assless too. But no crater, and bottom of car and a bit of an expanded frame looked still pretty much there. They could almost rebuild what’s left and recycle it! That’s better than Hollywood. Just the right explosive size in perfect placement, entering the rear window, to essentially get the cabin, and eliminate its odious contents, without getting everyone around. If you study it, it is an amazing accomplishment, considering the missile is from an aircraft above! How’d they do that?

    The Palis ought to be thanking the Israelis for their genius in using such confined destruction.

  9. says

    Listening to Hamas and its Arab supporters is akin to listening to the insane.
    No kidding, Israel will sit back and let you fire your rockets into its territory and do nothing – are these idiots that stupid. Yep, I think they are, and sadly they have some western media idealists who will print their crap.
    Darwin would be shocked to see how little these people have evolved. They still can’t distinguish right from wrong yet. What chance of a rational discussion or conversation with people who are dumb and stupid to the point of blind adherence to terrorists.
    I make no apologies for calling these people stupid. What else could possibly describe a person who decides their fate based on religion or blind faith.

  10. says

    Listening to Hamas and its Arab supporters is akin to listening to the insane.
    No kidding, Israel will sit back and let you fire your rockets into its territory and do nothing – are these idiots that stupid. Yep, I think they are, and sadly they have some western media idealists who will print their crap.
    Darwin would be shocked to see how little these people have evolved. They still can’t distinguish right from wrong yet. What chance of a rational discussion or conversation with people who are dumb and stupid to the point of blind adherence to terrorists.
    I make no apologies for calling these people stupid. What else could possibly describe a person who decides their fate based on religion or blind faith.

  11. says

    “…the proliferation of Israeli settlements encroaching onto land originally designated as the Palestinian state are a major obstacle to peace in the region.”

    The land was not originally designated as the Palestinian state. The “West Bank” and Jordan were originally (from the time prior to the League of Nations Mandate) designated to be the Jewish national home. The British carved approximately 75 – 80% of the Jewish national home, giving it to a Hashemite king, Abdullah, leaving only 20% for the Jewish national home; which included Biblical Judea and Samaria. That was the League of Nations Mandate for “Palestine.”

  12. says

    @wildjew.
    I don’t disagree. But, so what? Yes, a large portion (more than 1/2) of the original territory contemplated by the League of Nations to constitute a Jewish homeland was retaken by Abdullah by force against the British “protectors” and was incorporated into Jordan.
    However, as you know, the UN, not the League of Nations, sanctioned the birth of the state of Israel and sanctioned it on borders similar to the 1967 borders (somewhat less of course). It is the UN vote that is the linch pin of Jewish statehood, not an idea contemplated by or recommended to the League of Nations. To my knowledge the original League of Nations plan was never officially sanctioned by a vote of its members or signed off upon by the local populations.
    In any case, no one seriously argues it should now be implemented except perhaps for a few fanatics. Even the most ardent Jewish settlers aren’t taking that position as far as I understand. Of course, the very, very orthodox Jews are against any contemporary Jewish state…until such time as the messiah comes to lead the Jewish people into one. These are the ones that meet with Ahmadinejad and share niceities over tea.

  13. says

    Some time ago Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald wrote a superb piece entitled “The Mask Slips in Gaza.” Now the mask is off altogether.

    The mask has not merely slipped in Gaza. It is entirely off. Jihad, jihad, jihad. Use the word. The Arabs and Muslims are using it, day after day, not least in Gaza. It is a Jihad. It is prompted by the tenets of Islam, and those tenets do not say “compromise with the Infidels.” Those tenets do not say “leave them with a tiny rump state.” Those tenets do not say “Push them back to the pre-1967 armistice lines” or “Push them back until they are sufficiently small.” No, Islam tells Muslims not to countenance, not to endure, any Infidel state, any state which permits non-Muslims the right to determine their own destiny, any entity or institution which would allow non-Muslims that modicum of power that would keep them from being reduced to the status of dhimmis — no, neither the Qur’an, nor the Hadith, nor the example of Muhammad himself, permits such an interpretation.
    Some, but not enough, Israelis, have come to understand this — not enough in time to prevent the Gaza disaster. But whether the Israelis do or do not come to comprehend their enemy and the relentless Jihad against them, that is no reason for the rest of us, the Infidels outside the Middle East, not to recognize the nature of the war against Israel and how it merely prefigures, and is not the cause of, the larger world-wide Jihad against all Infidels, to be conducted with whatever means prove most efficacious. It does not make sense to pursue open military challenges to the West. It does make sense to divide and demoralize and terrorize not only that West, but all parts of the Infidel population, whether or not they are within dar al-Islam: the Christians who remain in the Middle East, along with the Jews in Israel, as well as the Hindus and Buddhists and Confucians in such Muslim-ruled countries as Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, or even within Infidel lands where a small Muslim population still manages, as in Europe or Thailand or the Philippines or even India, to conduct attacks on Infidels despite the disparity in numbers.

    Why is it that the Western world and Americans in particular fail to comprehend this and waste time actually ignoring the problem of Islam and pretending that the matter can somehow be solved if alternative regimes — a primitive democracy rather than a primitive despotism in Iraq, for example — will somehow help to contain the threat of Islam? It will do no such thing. The way to contain Islam is not to better the lot, still less to sacrifice one’s own men and materiel and money to do so, of Muslims, however plausible some of the westernized representatives (Shalabi, Rend al-Rahim Francke, Kanan Makiya, Allawi himself), the unrepresentative representatives, may be. Rather, the way to contain Islam is to play upon and exploit the natural divisions within this or that Muslim state or population, so as to turn Muslim against Muslim, or, in the case of the Kurds, by supporting them to the hilt, to make the case of all non-Arab Muslims everywhere who wish to shake off the dominance of the Arab supremacist ideology for which Islam has always been a vehicle.
    While the mask is off in Gaza, Western dhimmis are doing their utmost to keep it in place. I just finished watching a propaganda piece on the Bill Moyers show. It was all about some “Palestinian” Arab widows trying to make a go of it as the start-up owners of a pickle factory. I did not count the many occasions on which it was suggested — no, stated — that everything depended on Allah, the number of times “Inshallah” (God willing) and other phrases were inserted into conversations, not as mere rhetoric, but as expressions of deep belief. Inshallah-fatalism is not conducive to economic activity. It has its points: it can reconcile one to a miserable condition and even to the injustice of the very belief-system that is almost entirely responsible for that miserable condition. But industriousness, entrepreneurial flair, and the constant attention to detail that modern economies require are simply incompatible with the lessons and tenets of Islam, and the overall attitude of inshallah-fatalism cannot be ignored, for it pervades everything.

    After the propaganda show was over, Moyers interviewed one Azza Karam, an Egyptian woman described as connected to the U.N. Commission on Arab Development (or some such name). She of course, when asked about the possible connection between the teachings of Islam and the miserable condition of these widows and of women under Islam, referred to “tribal culture.” One would think that the cities of Islam — from Cairo and Tunis and Damascus, all the way to Karachi and Dacca and Jakarta, owed the treatment of women to some “tribal culture.” And even if one could pretend that “tribal culture” rather than Islam was responsible for the treatment of women in, say, Iraq (which does have a tribal culture in many areas), could the same be said for Cairo? And even if we were to pretend that this “tribal culture” explained the position of women in the Middle East and North Africa, what “tribal culture” is there in Jakarta?

    And even if we were, just for the hell of it, to pretend that it was “tribal culture” that explained the mistreatment of women everywhere in dar al-Islam, then how would we explain the same mistreatment of Muslim women in the Muslim areas of London, Paris, Milan, and Barcelona? The lingering effects of “tribal culture”? And what about the treatment of Western women who marry Muslim men, whether those women “revert” to Islam (i.e., convert) or not? Is their mistreatment, which has been so widely reported (not least after they flee those marriages that are often of convenience — to the green-card seeking Muslim groom), the result of their “tribal culture”?

    The viewer saw Azza Karam’s attempt to defend Islam at all costs — in her constant refusal to even permit the slightest hint that just maybe, there was something in the Qur’an, in the Hadith, in the Sira, that might cause Muslim men to act as they do (and there is, there is), and put the kind of restrictions they do on Muslim women — as the transparent taqiyya it is. But no matter how often one views this spectacle — of the Muslim who is intelligent, personable (up to a point), and seemingly part of the same rational universe, and yet who suddenly reveals that coute que coute, that person is going to lie about, to dissimulate, to hide, the truth about Islam, for Islam must never ever be subject to a hint of criticism – it is always stunning.

    Really, Azza Karam’s performance was astonishing, and most enlightening. One hopes that many non-Muslims will be able to — as we old vaudevillians say — catch her act. The things she does with masks are breathtaki

  14. says

    Jihad Watch

    Fitzgerald: Occupation? What occupation?

    Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald discusses the tendentious claims that Israel is maintaining an illegal “occupation” of Palestinian land — claims evidently believed by the President of the United States:

    A poster at Jihad Watch recently recommended that readers here acquire “knowledge of the day to day lives of the Palestinians and their experience under occupation.”
    “Occupation”? What “occupation”? All the territories the Israelis now possess are theirs by legal right — the right conferred by the League of Nations Mandates Commission, when it carefully defined the territory which would be set aside, from the vast territories in the Middle East that had formerly been in the control of the Ottoman Turks as part of their empire, and which had been won by the Allies. An Arab State, a Kurdish State, and a Jewish state were all promised. The Arabs got their state — no, in the end, they got far more than their state but rather, in 2005, 22 members of the Arab League, the most richly endowed with natural resources of any states on earth, enjoying the fruits of the greatest transfer of wealth in human history The Kurds did not get their state, because by the time things had settled, Kemal Ataturk was driving a hard bargain and would not permit it. The Jews got the Mandate for Palestine set up for the express purpose of establishing the Jewish National Home, which would inexorably become, all parties realized, in time a Jewish state. It did not seem wrong then, and does not seem wrong now, that the Jews should have a state of their own. They asked only for the right to have no barriers put up to their immigration, and no barriers put in the way of their buying land. That was it. That was the sum total of what they demanded. Until the 1948 war, when five Arab armies attacked, not a single dunam of Arab-owned land (and remember that nearly 90% of the land, in any case, remained the possession of the state or the ruling authority, as in the Mandatory period) was appropriated. No one should dare to write about this subject without having done the research on demography, land ownership, and law.

    The Israeli claim to the West Bank (as Judea and Samaria were carefully renamed by Jordan after 1948, in precisely the same way, and for the same reason, that the Romans, nearly two thousand years before, had renamed Judea as “Palestine” and Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina) is not that of a military occupier, though it is also that. The main legal and historic claim is that based on the League of Nations Mandate, which in turn, was based on a considerable historic and moral claim recognized by the educated leaders of the then-civilized world, who actually knew something of the history of the area, and were not nearly as misinformed as so many have been by the mass media, and the laziness and prejudice of journalists today.
    The notion of “occupation” of course evokes imagines of Occupied Paris, or Occupied Berlin, after the war. It implies no justification for the claims of the power with the military presence. But the claim of Israel to the lands it took in 1967 are based, for the Sinai, on the standard rules of post-war settlement, the rules which have obtained for centuries, whereby a victor in a war of defense keeps what he has won. If the Israelis chose not to, or were forced not to exercise that right, it does not mean that the right did not exist. It did, and it applies even more forcefully to Gaza and the West Bank. But the claim there is not based merely on the successful conquest of territory to which otherwise Israel had no claim. It did have a claim, a claim based clearly on the Mandate for Palestine — and like all the other League of Nations Mandates, was formally accepted, taken over as it were, by the United Nations when it came into being. This is a matter of record. It cannot be undone.

    Whatever else one wishes to say about the West Bank or Gaza, the word “occupation” is a tendentious, and cruel, misnomer. What it seeks to imply, what it seeks to implant in the minds of men, is clear: Israel has no rights here. This is nonsense. This is the very reverse of the truth. Read the Mandate, and the Preamble to the Mandate, for Palestine. Then read the records of the Mandates Commission — and especially how they reacted when the British unilaterally announced that the terms of the mandate would not be applied to Eastern Palestine — that is, the consolation prize given to Abdullah of the Emirate of Transjordan.

    Read it, and understand it.

  15. says

    Hamas has been emboldened by the rise to power in neighboring Egypt of its spiritual mentors in the Muslim Brotherhood whom it views as a “safety net”.
    Some 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis died in the 2008-2009 conflict.

    In the Israeli “Operation Cast Lead”, there is no doubt Palestinian civilians were killed, but this is without a doubt the fault of the Palestinian rocketeers who placed their rocket launchers in the midst of Palestinian civilian populated areas expressly for the purpose of playing the victim card when the expected Israeli defensive counter offensive arrived…Hamas has admitted that 700 of its fighters were killed (and this figure is probably low)…In the previous eight years Palestinians had fired over 12,000 rockets into Israel…I would consider this a direct provocation and an act of war…Muslims have claimed to have over 60,000 rockets ready to fire into Israel. Feel free to thank the Hamas Muslims if any more Palestinian civilians are killed if Israel retaliates to direct Muslim provacations or acts of war…and if Egypt or any other Muslim entity supplies weapons,ammunition, explosives or any other materials of war to Hamas…thank them too. If you review history it is the Muslims who usually fire the first shot..followed by many more…

    Don’t blame Israel…

  16. says

    Thank you for the link. That’s what we call: A civilized man’s strike, as opposed to, savages firing randomly at innocent civilians.

  17. says

    “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

  18. says

    This man has no interest in discussing any thing. He is like the jihadists who hide behind women and children. He posts something then hides.

  19. says

    This low life wrote: “And Haredim need to be forced into military service, or kicked out of the country…..”

    This advocate of jihadist’s rights talks about being “Kicked out of a country…”

    Amazing!

  20. says

    Among the steaming ordure of your post, my long pair of tongs fished out this stinker: ‘Israel will NEVER have national security, until the Palestinians have a sovereign, stable country, with a functioning economy.’

    What Palestinians? There never has been a Palestine, therefore no Palestinians. Even your own guys agree with me!

    “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria”. Representative of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956

    You’re a clown!

  21. says

    More meretricious crap from https://me.yahoo.com/a/jn3RbDthtvWVAf4SjINGi9CXvxDuiL5_YGM-#76700:

    Israel really needs to prioritize its defense policy. The IDF is stretched too thin, protecting scrappy settlements of Haredi nutbars who eschew conscription. It’s time for Israel to turn its back on the settlements, withdraw from majority Palestinian territories, and direct all resources to defending Israel proper.
    …………………………..

    No doubt what our “alphabet salad” here considers “Israel proper” to be Israel within the 1967 borders, where she is especially vulnerable to attack from the surrounding “Palestinian” territories”especially from what are now characterized as the Golan Heights.

    This opens Israel up to direct attacks on her civilian population centers and her main international airport.

    Implying that this would make Israel *more* secure is utter rot.

    More:

    Israel will NEVER have national security, until the Palestinians have a sovereign, stable country, with a functioning economy.
    …………………………..

    Well, good luck with that. The “Palestinians” have made virtually no moves to establish an actual, functioning state. They have always poured their resources into the destruction of Israel.

    More:

    A non-functioning, non-sovereign territory full of desperate people who resent an occupying army is a perfect base for foreign powers (Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia)to use for fighting a proxy war. Palestinian statehood, coherent borders (no settlements), and massive economic restructuring is the only way to get Hezbollah and Hamas out of the region.
    …………………………..

    Note “alphabet salad’s” implications here: that the only bar to a functioning “Palestinian” state is Israel’s intransigence; that the “Palestinians” are only waging bloody Jihad against Israel because they are “desperate”; and that the “Palestinians” are not really intent on waging war on Israel, but that this is all the purview of ‘foreign powers’.

    He also utterly ignores the fact that Hamas was *elected* by the Gazan Muslims. This isn’t some fringe group lurking around the edges of “Palestinian” society”this is the *government of Gaza*.

    More:

    The international community also has to close off the supply lines that feed the Katyusha builders. This probably won’t happen, though, as Russia is protecting Syria.
    …………………………..

    The Syrian government is no friend to Israel. But this completely ignores the fact that the main immediate threat to Israel comes from the “Islamist” rebels, *not* from the Assad administration.

    More:

    And Iran has friends in strange places, such as the Armenians

    Iran and Armenia are friends…
    …………………………..

    Armenia is making overtures to Iran only because they are”with damn good reason’so concerned about the threat from Turkey. Anyone remember the Armenian Genocide?

    I believe this allying with Iran to be foolish”but Armenia is in a *very* “bad neighborhood”, and one that is getting steadily worse, so I do understand their desperation.

    The idea that Armenia is ideologically allied with Iran is absurd. They just hope”probably in vain’that their ties to Iran can serve as something of a hedge against Turkey.

    And the implication that little Armenia is a great enabler of Iranian aggression is ridiculous, in any case”Armenia is a small Christian-majority country in a sea of largely hostile Muslim nations. Their influence is minimal.

    The idea that the reason that the genocidally violent “Palestinian territories” are awash with armaments is all Armenia’s fault is just ludicrous, and serves to deflect attention from the coordinated Jihad against Israel.

  22. says

    wildjew

    re our latest string-of-letters Jew hater (who professes to oppose the Jihad, but whose every proposal re Israel, if done, would result in Israel being annihilated by the Ummah)

    He claims that those who live in ‘the settlements’ – that is, in Jewish farms and villages and towns established in Judea and Samaria – are all ‘haredim who eschew conscription’.

    He’s lying.

    Because the Israeli Jewish lady who writes this blog

    http://israelisoldiersmother.blogspot.com.au/

    lives in one of those ‘settlements’ that he so despises; she is an observant, religious Jew; and her sons have proudly served, and are proudly serving, in the IDF. Her youngest was just signed up for his training.

    And I am **sure** that she is very far from being the only one.

    Furthermore, he is talking absolute blithering nonsense when he parrots the old ‘poverty causes Jihad’ canard:

    “Israel will NEVER have national security, until the Palestinians [sic: dda] have a sovereign, stable country, with a functioning economy.”

    ROFLMAO.

    So long as the vast majority of the so-called ‘palestinians’, that is, the local Arabs (including many of non-Arab ancestry who by now are fully Arabised and Islamised to boot), remain *Muslim*, then there is not a snowball’s chance in hell of their ever achieving ‘a sovereign, stable country, with a functioning economy’. Suspicion and aggression are the atmospherics of Islam; as is lying, BS, denial of responsibility, and a vengeful zero-sum mentality. No society that is full of *that* will ever ‘do all that well, economically or in any other way. I don’t think that any Muslim entity throughout history could ever be truly described as ‘stable’. Dar al Islam oscillates wildly between topdown tyranny and absolute anarchy: between the state of affairs we saw in Saddam’s Iraq, or under the Ottoman sultans, and the state of affairs we see in the badlands of Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan.

    In any case: suppose the Arab Muslims of Gaza, Judea and Samaria all became very, very rich (while remaining Muslims). What would they do with their wealth? Jihad. They would have even *more* money and raw materials for even more lethal weapons than they can buy or make already. Rich Muslims frequently engage in Jihad of the Purse, which has been very effective all over the world, as the House of Saud – and also Shiite Iran – use a percentage of their ‘free money’ from oil (earned with very little effort on their part) to push Sharia and further the Jihad, not least by corrupting the academy and the media in western countries, and also by luring and bedazzling politicians and businessmen and financiers. And the bored, pious sons of rich Muslims Go Jihad – in the ‘hot’, combat sense – quite often. There have been plenty of silver-spoon (or even golden-spoon) jihad plotters caught within the West, lately.

    Our latest Jew-hating poster (even if he pretends to be a ‘friend’ of Israel) is talking BS …and I bet he knows it, too.

  23. says

    I disagree on a couple of points.First, I disagree that me.yahoo.com/a/jn3RbDthtvWVAf4SjINGi9CXvxDuiL5_YGM-#76700 is a jew hater. Your baseless accusation undermines your credibility. It’s tantamount to some fanatic Muslim responding to legitimate criticsim of Islam with the Islamphobe defense – it is meant to avoid serious debate.
    Second, in fact, the proliferation of Israeli settlements encroaching onto land originally designated as the Palestinian state are a major obstacle to peace in the region. While not every settlement inhabitant may be an orthodox Jew, the ultra orthodox are a major factor in settlement proliferation.
    I understand “jn3Rb” (thanks to my choice of sign-in now I have such a moniker!) to be saing Israel ought to revert to the 1967 boundaries with some slight modification for demographic realities. The settlement constructions can be delivered to deserving (I’ll define that if you want) Palestinian Arabs as reparations. No right of return except on a severly limited basis (those who actually fled Israel – no descendants). Jerusalem to be jointly ruled as a city state.

    That is the basic structure of a resolution and pretty much mirrors what the original UN plan constituted. Do you oppose such a solution? If so, why?

  24. says

    Yes graven image, I noted that “passive voice” reporting (among other tricks) in another thread above this one. And of course it’s also often juxtaposed with using the active voice when describing Israeli actions.

  25. says

    LemonLime wrote:

    Yes graven image, I noted that “passive voice” reporting (among other tricks) in another thread above this one. And of course it’s also often juxtaposed with using the active voice when describing Israeli actions.
    ……………………..

    Very true, LemonLime. This appalling and grotesque bias against the civilized faction runs through the majority of stories about Israel.

    Here are some more appallingly slanted headlines, just from today:

    “Israel moves troops toward Gaza””Boston Globe

    “15 Palestinians, 3 Israelis dead as intense air assaults and rocket fire continue””The Washington Post

    “Israel attack on Gaza: Familiar tension, new circumstances””L.A. Times

    The only headline that seems to acknowledge that Muslims attacked Israel first is from FOX News:

    “Israel launches retaliation strikes against Hamas rocket attacks”

    Otherwise, Israel is falsely made to sound like the aggressor.

    And here’s a related headline from the New York Times that is just grimly laughable:

    “Egypt Torn Between Allies in Gaza and Treaty With Israel”

    From that, you’d guess that Muslim
    Brotherhood Egypt was really torn over the matter, and not that they have been saber rattling at Israel ever since they took power after ousting Mubarak.

    Also, describing Gaza as an “ally””rather than noting that the genocidal Hamas is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, is more bs.

    If Muslims escalate their aggression towards Israel, though, I only expect this to get worse…