After repeatedly threatening to kill me, Muslim emailer comes out for Obama

I heard tonight from a gentleman who has emailed me many, many times in the past. His IP address is 196.201.207.102, which traces to Djibouti, meaning either that this fellow is in Djibouti or has a spoofed IP address. In his message tonight he repeats the title of my article here:

Name: yahoo

Email: yahoo@yahoo.com

Subject: Die with your HATE Mr Spencer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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IP: 196.201.207.102
HOST: 196.201.207.102

I haven't heard from this good man in awhile, but for a good stretch of 2010 and 2011 he was sending me death threats almost daily, telling me he would be at various events where I was speaking so as to kill me there (he never did). One read:

I was thinking to CUT your head with AXE.. as Self -defence. defending mY dignity as MUSLIM>

And another:

Message: You are pointing the way that I would still hunt you down. I will never be a hostile to any other human beings for my life time. But only To spencer and When I get you I will do they way you have already reported.

Spencer deserves to be indicted and If US government does not bring
him to justice or stop his Hatred We shall take the LAW again in our
hands and provide SPENCER to feed him what he wants.

Will it be a BULL....t or Kn...fe or AX....e.

Will I personally hang you UP or.

I know that you have already reported to the FBI and I dont care if
they will arrest me or Not Spencer .... I am On your WAY,...

A few of them are here, but there were many, many, many others.

In any case, he is celebrating tonight, as apparently he thinks "HATE" has suffered a defeat. The reality, of course, is that many, many more Islamic jihadists like him worldwide will be newly emboldened. And from them, as from this clown, we will see real hate.

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Hey Sheik Djibouti, get a job and stop claiming welfare, you useless waste of oxygen.

His latest message reminds me of the Jack Nicholson character in The Shining, when the character types like a million times "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQ_MjU4QHw

His name is "yahoo", eh?

yahoo defined:

ya·hoo/ˈyäˌho͞o/Noun: A rude, noisy, or violent person.

Rude, noisy OR violent? ...well he's all three rolled into one.

Obama has won the President election!

The "key country" was Ohio!

November 5, 2012 GAFFNEY: Vote for Obama to restrict free speech

Four more years to push anti-blasphemy law

... The documentary opens with Mr. Obama's astounding pronouncement at the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 25: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/5/vote-for-obama-to-restrict-free-speech/

Come, come, Sheikh. The guy breathes out sarbon dioxide, which green plants need.

Problem is that Muslims cheer Obama when it comes to US politics, but when they are protesting things like the Mohammed movie, among others, Obama's effigy is among those that they burn.

On a different note, I am curious as to how the new alternate sign-ins work. Typepad alone works, but I can't use Wordpress or AOL to log in. What gives? With Wordpress, when I try to log in as myself, using my e-mail, it claims that the account isn't mine. But from the main Wordpress site, I have no trouble logging in.

Can't logging in be made simpler, w/o compromising on the security? I like the idea of our having our gravitars.

Dear Mr. Spencer,

Your GOD is a superior God.

Victory is yours, as well as for all humans on Earth that today suffer from the ill-prevalent symptoms of a rising storm - worst than all demonic whirlwind. (Islam)

Keep standing for Us!


Robert,

I'm quite sure this threat is coming from a Muslim American military service member stationed in our only base in Africa, in Djibouti.

You should have this traced by the U.S. military, or, if any good service members stationed in Djibouti are reading, have your base NetOps trace this I.P.

Only an American is likely to have gotten the "yahoo@yahoo.com" email, probably not long after the company was founded.

Dear All
My condolences that your friend "Mit" did not make it in this elections! The American people voted against fundamentalism ! I hope the Israeli public will react the same way and send your other friend "Ben" to retirement ...the world is tired from idiots and morons who have only war colonialism and occupation in mind !


US Navy Base, Djibouti:

http://www.cnic.navy.mil/cldj/

This guy is probably stationed here, as a service member or contractor.

Probably has a tech background if he has the "yahoo@yahoo.com" address. That's a good one. Too bad its wasted on an Islamic hatemonger.


the coreanne (sic) is a book that is based on a complete, pervasive doctrine of HATE!


this idiot is a being of incest, SO prevalent in the mohommedian world... der um islam

You speak for the 'world' do you?
A local broadcaster said that people around the world were 'celebrating' O's victory...'Celebrating'? I can see why they would take note and maybe like Rasool O, but 'celebrate'? They like him 'that' much? Well, they should all move here and experience his benevolence first hand...he might even give them a free phone...or a coffee mug...

Dear Jiihad Watch readers:

I always thought highly of Mr. Spencer and Ms.Geller (over at Atlas Shrugs) for their allowing those in disagreement with them to post on this site without being "deleted." Robert and Pamela certainly supports freedom of speech as a non-negotiable American value.

Now I realize that this has a practical side as well. Let the name-calling Islamadoodle supporters post to this site... and eventually you can uncover their true intent... not just to disagree, but eventually to try to intimidate with threats of violence.

This is where allowing them to post is brilliant. As the bullies get more and more brazen with their stances that evolve into threats... potential stalkers and persons who might resort to criminal violence eventually show their "true colors" (not just as someone who disagrees, but as someone who is violent and thus be identified to the authorities and then be taken care of by law enforcement).

I am somewhat "new" to these two sites and I guess a good example of what I'm referring to is someone named "Dan" who would always "bait" and make snide comments in posts over at Atlas Shrugs. Pamela allowed him to do this and he eventually played his hand with threats of violence. I haven't seen him post since I am hoping the legal authorities in his native Australia have dealt with him.

So allowing folks to post even if they are in support of Islamadoodles can have an advantage in knowing who is and who is not dangerous.

Which brings me to my next comment.

I am about as tech savvy as a rock in mud. The way the posters were able to to deduce that this threatening person was apparently a tech-whiz (from the beginning of yahoo's start up), may very well be an American military personnel and be could be stationed in Djibouti was like... WOW.

Could he possibly be part of a US Diplomatic team?

Either way... Mr. Spencer, PLEASE pursue this not just for your own safety- but IF THIS MAN IS A PART OF A MILITARY BASE OR DIPLOMATIC MISSION OF THE USA; and he is obviously a closet Jihadi who supports violence; the POTENTIAL FOR DANGER to American interests is tremendous.

He could very well be another Fort Hood SOA ready to strike. Please investigate these threats and let your readers know if yes, he really was an American based overseas. If so, the thought of other "Fort Hood SOAs" out ther is frightening.

Take care Mr. Spencer.

You're a clown!

Fundamentalism is what Islam is all about! The Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, and a thousand other jihadist groups with names that come straight from Al Qur'an.

Democracy is about rule of the people by the people, not rule by a bunch a swivel-eyed Islamic clerics who want to commit genocide against the Jews.

So it's hate speech to criticise Islam, but not hate speech to make death threats?

yes. It seems that way doesnt it?
M

Maxpublius,
You said,

Only an American is likely to have gotten the "yahoo@yahoo.com" email, probably not long after the company was founded.

Excellent thought. Maybe you are right that it's an American military person at a base in Djibouti.

But his English seems like it might be non-native, so perhaps he was not born in the States?

Certainly that yahoo@yahoo.com address ought to be a clue, since, as you suggest, it would probably have been snatched up instantly, soon after Yahoo was founded.

I would have thought that a yahoo employee, perhaps someone in management, would have such an email address.

Could it be a yahoo employee?

Can't Yahoo give Robert information about the person who owns yahoo@yahoo.com?

Privacy agreements would surely be invalidated for someone issuing death threats.

Hey nadimkawar, this is how democracy works here, yeah, you either win or lose, and both candidates went into the race knowing that the ultimate decision would be that of the people.

Good or bad we will stick to the decision of the majority, unlike your Islamic hellholes where the candidate who does not win throws a hissy fit and in the example of Mohammed himself, will send his goons out to kill and destroy in order to vent his anger at being humiliated. Ever wonder why democracy is almost non-existant in the Islamic world, it's because (like it or not), the prophet of Islam was a sore loser...

You say "the American people voted against fundamentalism? no in their willful ignorance they voted for the man who in the guise of liberalism, will pave the way for another more dangerous kind of "fundamentalism" .... yes you guessed right the Islamic kind. The one that most of Europe is having a hard time trying to tame. That is the reality of Islam in the world today.

USA was the lone bastion of freedom of speech and expression in the world, now the leader of the free world is none other than the supreme appeaser of Islam, who's aim in the next four years will probably be to AMMEND THE FIRST AMMENDMENT, so that it "works" with the sensitivities of Muslims, and the truth of Islam's barbaric founder may never be voiced in public forever. He promised “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam,” Obama told the UN and its assembly of dictators and tyrants, and that much he will accomplish.

As a Muslim you may think it is a time to celebrate, for you are right to do so, because the ignorant American left, like their european counterparts truly despise their freedoms, and sacrifice them on the altar of political correctness. So to the detriment of us all they have done you a big favor by facilitating the gradual errosion of America's true Judio-christian values. The one that that has made this nation prosperous.

On the other hand if you are not a Muslim zombie then you too should fear what is comming, because "moderate Islam" is a big fat lie to perpetuate a more evil sharia, (the one you probably took refuge here from) the actual death of freedom, the enslavement and dhimmitude of everyone who refuses to be slaves of Allah.

Dear Bliz2b I am sure we share the same values which are the values of the western democracy but it seems we have different approaches, I think that the unconditional support of Israel with its strategy of oppressing and killing the Palestinian people and keeping them under a brutal occupation only gives the Islamic extremist a platform where they can increase there supporters between Moderate Muslims ... I am against "Sharia Law" and for separation between religion and state and I am convinced that there will be no true development in the middle east without implementing the Western values in our countries.

After repeatedly threatening to kill me, Muslim emailer comes out for Obama
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Oh, goody! He can join with this guy:

"Sudanese jihad leader linked to bin Laden backs Obama, 'of course'"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/sudanese-jihad-leader-linked-to-bin-laden-backs-obama-of-course.html

More:

Subject: Die with your HATE Mr Spencer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...I haven't heard from this good man in awhile, but for a good stretch of 2010 and 2011 he was sending me death threats almost daily, telling me he would be at various events where I was speaking so as to kill me there (he never did). One read:

I was thinking to CUT your head with AXE.. as Self -defence. defending mY dignity as MUSLIM>
...................................

Ah, yes—I remember this threat. The Muslim mindset, where cutting off a peaceful mans' head with an axe is "self defense"...

More:

And another:

Message: You are pointing the way that I would still hunt you down. I will never be a hostile to any other human beings for my life time. But only To spencer and When I get you I will do they way you have already reported.
...................................

Ah...right. In other words, I will never be hostile to anyone, except for those who oppose violent Jihad. And I'll cut off their heads with an axe. What could be seen as hostile about that?

More:

Spencer deserves to be indicted and If US government does not bring him to justice or stop his Hatred We shall take the LAW again in our hands and provide SPENCER to feed him what he wants.
...................................

Shari'ah in action. A call for the state to punish through "blasphemy laws" anyone who dares to speak about Jihad, combined with an indication that if the state is not sufficiently Islamic to carry this out, that the Ummah itself will carry out this savagery.

More:

In any case, he is celebrating tonight, as apparently he thinks "HATE" has suffered a defeat. The reality, of course, is that many, many more Islamic jihadists like him worldwide will be newly emboldened.
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Yes. And he believes that standing against the beheading of innocent people is "Hate", and believes that Obama essentially agrees with him...

Above, 'nadimkawar' squawks, or perhaps hisses: "the unconditional support of Israel with its strategy of oppressing and killing the Palestinian people and keeping them under a brutal occupation only gives the Islamic extremist a platform where they can increase there supporters between Moderate Muslims".

In other words: he is pretending that the Jihad is fuelled by Western support (*what* support, of any kind, let alone 'unconditional support', these days?) of Israel; that is, by any action involving assisting the Jewish state of Israel in its self-defence against the Jihad which is being waged against them (and not only against them, actually, but against all Jews everywhere; Muslim mobs were yelling Itbach al Yahud! [Slaughter the Jews!] and 'First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people' for *centuries* before ever the Jewish state of Israel was reborn on part of the traditional Jewish homeland regained at immense cost from out of the iron claws of the Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob.

All non-Muslim jihadwatch regulars know he is talking nonsense.

The argument that anybody's 'resisting jihad causes jihad' is BS.

Muslim mobsters on the Barbary Coast were attacking American ships and enslaving American sailors *two hundred years ago*. At that time, the Jews in Muslim-dominated lands were exploited, despised, terrorised, defenceless dhimmis (see David Littman, 'Exile in the Maghreb', for more). There was *no* Jewish state of Israel in existence, though there were terrorised and exploited Jewish communities eking out an existence in their homeland, at the mercy of the Muslim mobs.

I will therefore provide a series of links to articles that should assist any less-informed non-Muslim visitors, new to this site and this subject, to understand, to the full, that nadim kawar is talking malevolent BS.


First, this classic of intelligent sarcasm from the Jihadwatch archives. I will re-post it in full, because it is important.

'95 other things that also fuel Muslim extremism'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/10/fitzgerald-95-things-that-fuel-muslim-extremism.html

“The American presence in Iraq fuels Muslim extremism.”
-- a conclusion concluded from the National Intelligence Estimate by many concluders in solemn conclusory conclave assembled.

Ninety-Five Other Things That Also Fuel Muslim Extremism:


1. Salman Rushdie’s “The Satanic Verses.”


2. The British government’s protection of Salman Rushdie.


3. The American coup against Mossadegh in 1953, cited by some Iranians as the direct cause of the takeover of Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeini more than 25 years later.


4. The remarks of Pim Fortuyn about Muslim attitudes toward liberal Dutch mores.


5. The movie by Theo van Gogh about the subjection of women in Islam.


6. The election of Ayaan Hirsi Ali to the Dutch Parliament.


7. Hindus passing by mosques as Friday Prayers end.


8. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Sunni insurgents.


9. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Shi’a militias.


10. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Kurdish desire for independence.


11. The failure of Americans in Iraq to give Baghdad an instant makeover so that it resembles the most prosperous and advanced American city.


12. The failure of Americans to solve every economic problem in Iraq, to make Sunnis and Shi’a friends, to get the oilfields pumping at full capacity, and to make donations even beyond the many tens of billions spent directly on reconstruction in Iraq.

13. The failure of the Americans, in obtaining debt relief from all Infidel creditors for Iraq (but not from any of the Muslim Arab states), to persuade those same Infidel countries to supply another $50-$100 billion.


14. The refusal of the French state to permit the wearing of the hijab.


15. The insistence, by the French state, that texts by Voltaire, Montaigne, Proust, and other writers deemed or perceived to be anti-Islamic by Muslims, be assigned to students, as required reading, by the Ministry of Education.

16. The selling of alcohol by Christians in Basra.


17. The existence of Christians in Basra.

18. The continued functioning of Christian churches in Baghdad.

19. The Copts in Egypt who complain when Muslims attack their churches and other institutions, or kidnap and forcibly convert Coptic girls to Islam.


20. The Filipinos who try to hold private religious services in Saudi Arabia, land on which no non-Muslims should be present in any case.

21. The American airmen who were assigned to bases in Saudi Arabia and who showed insufficient obeisance to their Saudi masters, all daggers and dishdashas, with their sneers of cold command.


22. The obvious superiority of Western economies.


23. The obvious superiority of Western education.


24. The obvious superiority of Western medical care.


25. The obvious superiority of Western artistic achievement.


26. The obvious superiority of Western (fill in here whatever you like).


27. The failure of Muslims living in the countries of Western Europe to have a standard of living equal or superior to that of non-Muslims.

28. The continued refusal of non-Muslims in the West to institute a formalized long-term system of Jizyah, by which Muslims can be supported; they now must make do only with the benefits provided by Infidel taxpayers on a year-to-year basis.


29. The financial support given by the Americans to the Mubarak regime in Egypt that enrages the Muslim Brotherhood.

30. The financial support given by the Americans to successive Jordanian kings and kinglets, which enrages the Muslim Brotherhood.


31. The diplomatic and other support given by the Americans to the corrupt Al-Saud family of “Saudi” Arabia, which enrages Al-Qaeda and its local supporters.


32. The threats by some in the United States to withdraw support from the Mubarak Friends-and-Family Plan, which whips up anti-American sentiment among Egyptian Muslims.


33. The threats by some in the United States to withdraw support from Pakistan if it does not collaborate less meretriciously in the soi-disant “war on terror,” which whips up anti-American sentiment among Pakistani Muslims.

34. The temporary withdrawal of Infidel support for the “Palestinians,” who deserve to receive Infidel aid of every kind, and permanently.


35. The discussion by some in the West of ways to diminish, in order to prevent further global warming, the use of oil -– which discussion is seen as damaging Arab and Muslim interests, and must therefore be regarded as a deliberate attack on Islam.

36. The reference by Pope Benedict to a 14th century Byzantine emperor’s remarks in the course of a scholarly address at Regensburg.

37. The refusal of Pope Benedict to continue to apologize, and his apparent refusal to completely humiliate himself, before Muslims demanding such humiliation.


38. The Israeli “occupation” of Sinai, Gaza, and the West Bank, that is, of Judea and Samaria, after the Six-Day War.


39. The Israeli “occupation” of Gaza and the West Bank, that is, Judea and Samaria, after the Camp David Accords.

40. The Israeli “occupation” of the West Bank, that is, Judea and Samaria, after the full withdrawal from Gaza.


41. The Israeli “occupation” of the sacred Arab and Muslim soil on which the only Jewish state was created in 1948.


42. The presence of Jews in the Middle East.


43. The presence of Jews, un-cowed, anywhere in the world.


44. The presence of a strong, self-assured community of Christians in Lebanon.


45. The presence of Copts in Egypt, who sometimes act as if they, too, have a right to regard Egypt as their land.

46. The refusal of Italian authorities to prosecute, before her death, the outspoken and intelligent journalist, Oriana Fallaci.


47. The refusal of Italian authorities to ban Dante in schools because of the mention of Muhammad in The Inferno.


48. The refusal of Italian authorities to remove or cover over frescoes in Bologna that depict Muhammad in an unflattering manner.

49. The refusal of the government of Denmark to punish a Danish newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, for daring to exercise the right of free speech.

50. The refusal of Hindus to abandon any claim to ancient sites, where Hindu temples once stood until destroyed by Muslim invaders.


51. The refusal of some Hindus to forget the history of India.

52. The refusal of some European governments to permit Muslim mosques of any size to be built wherever, whenever, and with whatever towering minarets and electronic amplifying equipment, as Muslims believe is their sacred right.

53. The attempts by some Western police to enter mosques where they have found, in the past, false passports and other documents, as well as weapons including guns and explosives, sometimes hidden in false ceilings.


54. The attempt to permit Europeans to continue, even outside Denmark, to exercise the so-called right of free speech, as has happened with Charlie-Hébdo and other French newspapers.


55. The refusal of the University of Geneva to renew the contract of Tariq Ramadan.

56. The public displays of piggy-banks, and of allusions in English pub names such as The Saracen’s Head, which may offend Muslims.


57. The discussions by some national authorities in Holland and state authorities in Germany of the need for more stringent qualifications for nationalization, and in some cases the institution of those more stringent qualifications.

58. The single mention by President Bush of the word “islamofascism” -– a word which Muslims all over insisted must never again be repeated by him, and which he never again repeated.


59. The behavior of American soldiers who have on several occasions returned deadly fire coming at them from mosques in Iraq.


60. The behavior of the British police in not notifying Muslim authorities well in advance of any planned raids on any suspected Muslim terrorists in Great Britain; this is a grave offense which has now apparently been rectified in order to win Muslim hearts and Muslim minds.


61. The belief that some in the West continue to hold, that Jews do have a historic as well as religious connection to the part of Dar al-Islam they call Israel.


62. The outrageous way in which Infidels refer to the Prophet Muhammad as if he is not universally regarded as the Perfect Man, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil.

63. The mention by Infidels of aspects of Muhammad’s life -– such as the Khaybar Oasis attack, the Banu Qurayza decapitation, the murder of Asma bint Marwan, the marriage to nine-year-old Aisha; these are not true, or if true, are not things which Infidels have any right either to discuss or even to know about.


64. The belief of some Infidels that those who give up on Islam, who are apostates and therefore traitors to Islam, could after their act of treason conceivably continue to know anything about Islam, given that Allah clearly takes away from such people all their previous knowledge of Islam at the very moment when they decide to apostasize.


65. The outrageous belief by some Infidels that nonetheless they may have reason to listen to the testimony of ex-Muslims as to the real contents of Islam.

66. The outrageous and insulting mention, by Infidels, of such words as “taqiyya” (dissimulation) and “kitman” (mental reservation – only telling part of what one knows, in a misleading manner).


67. The outrageous mention, by Infidels, of the word “dhimmi,” about which they cannot possibly have any accurate conception, and which they have no right to discuss in the first place unless they are Muslims.


68. The outrageous attempt to suggest that people are not born Muslims.


69. The outrageous attempt to suggest that the spread of Islam was ever undertaken through violence, when everyone knows it was a case of sudden mass conversion.


70. The refusal of this or that Infidel religious leader, political figure, writer, artist, comedian, or simply you, or simply I, to exhibit the proper attitude toward Islam, Islam, Islam.


71. The wherewithal provided by OPEC revenues that enables the Saudis, especially, to fund mosques and madrasas worldwide and thereby to naturally increase the numbers of “extremists” in the Lands of the Infidels.


72. The wherewithal of OPEC revenues that pay for an army of Western hirelings, including former diplomats (mostly English and American), former intelligence agents, former and present journalists (especially those covering the Middle East), public relations experts, businessmen eager for contracts in the Gulf, and many other fixers and middlemen.
This helps delay the day of new energy policies that could conceivably diminish the OPEC oil revenues that fund the Jihad, and also prevents the unwary from regarding Saudi Arabia as anything other than a “staunch ally.”

73. The willingness of journalists to overlook obvious links between the practice of Jihad and the doctrine of Jihad, encouraged by journalists who still do not feel any obligation to learn about Islam.

This encourages Muslims to make demands for changes in political and legal institutions in the West, or to insist that outspoken Infidels -- the Pope, Theo van Gogh, Jyllens-Posten -- must stop speaking or writing about Islam.

Any such refusal to comply with Muslim demands engenders -- “fuels” -- Muslim “extremism.”

74. The refusal of the Buddhists in southern Thailand to stop being Buddhists [and become Muslims as they are supposed to].

75. The refusal of the Christians in the southern Philippines to submit to the demands to hand over lands to the Muslims of As Sayyaf.


76. The refusal of Christians in Sulawesi to stop holding church services.


77. The refusal of the Israeli government to stop trying to protect ancient archeological sites in Jerusalem, many of which have been severely damaged by the Muslim construction on and deep within the Temple Mount.


78. The refusal of Hindus in India to concede to Muslim demands for the full application of Shari’a to the Muslim community.

79. The refusal of Orthodox priests in monasteries in Bosnia and Kosovo to abandon the monasteries to Muslims who are clamoring to destroy them.


80. The outrageous insistence by the world’s Armenians and by many others that Turkey stop denying the mass murder of Armenians by Muslim Turks between 1915 and 1920.


81. The outrageous demands by many Infidel lands that outside forces be brought in to protect the non-Arab Muslims from the Arab Muslims in Darfur, despite the express opposition of both the government of the Sudan and the Arab League.

82. The outrageous demands by some Infidels that Muslims should be permitted to open mosques only on the basis of reciprocity -- that is, on the basis of similar permission being granted to non-Muslims in Muslim lands.


83. The outrageous refusal of some Infidel countries to prevent transmissions of Al Manar and other satellite channels run by terrorist groups.


84. The refusal of many Western countries -- Great Britain, Germany, Canada -- to yield to demands of local Muslims that they be made subject only to the Shari’a [i.e., to Muslim despots administering Muslim religious laws] and not to the manmade laws of the Infidels.


85. The refusal by Australia to cease contributing troops to help their American allies in Afghanistan and Iraq.

86. The continued existence of Jews.

87. The continued existence of Christians.

88. The continued existence of Hindus.

89. The continued existence of Sikhs.

90. The continued existence of Buddhists.

91. The continued existence of followers of Confucius
 [and of the Tao, and of Shinto].
92. The continued existence of agnostics.

93. The continued existence of atheists.

94. Everything.

95. Nothing.

Some, especially in Lutheran lands, may be satisfied with these 95 theses. Others may prefer to round out the polemical embonpoint by adding another five items to the list.

Still others may wish to keep adding to the list from the rich profusion of items offered by each day’s Jihad news -- items in keeping with the nature and quite unnecessary nurture of the belief-system of Islam.
It took very little time to compose this list. It would not take much longer to add another hundred, two hundred, three hundred items to the list of things that “fuel Muslim extremism.”
Posted by Hugh at October 10, 2006 10:35 AM'.


nadimkawar wrote:

Dear All
My condolences that your friend "Mit" (sic) did not make it in this elections! The American people voted against fundamentalism ! I hope the Israeli public will react the same way and send your other friend "Ben" to retirement ...the world is tired from idiots and morons who have only war colonialism and occupation in mind !
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Another good Muslim who believes that standing against people who would behead us is "fundamentalism"...

And, look, he hopes that the Israelis roll over for Jihad, as well.

And pursuant to my posting above.

Three more items, for those new to this site and this subject, to counter nadimkawar's nonsensical claim that what he calls western support for the Jewish state of Israel - which, he falsely claims, is oppressing the local Arab Muslims (it 'oppresses' them only in that it resists their violent Jihad and refuses to surrender, hand over the booty, and submit to the seven hells of dhimmitude under the Muslim boot and the Muslim fist).

First, Steven Simpson's classic 'American Thinker' article, which boils down into a few pages what you would otherwise have to learn from the many, many scholarly pages of Andrew Bostom's 'Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism', Bat Yeor's 'The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam', Martin Gilbert's' 'In Ishmael's House', and David Littman's 'Exile in the Maghreb'.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/why_islam_will_never_accept_th.html

Why Islam Will Never Accept the State of Israel

By Steven Simpson, THE AMERICAN THINKER June 30 2010

"It is a common belief that the “Arab-Israeli conflict” is a conflict of two peoples fighting over the same piece of land and is therefore one of nationalism. Rarely, if ever, do we hear or read of the religious component to this conflict.
However, if anything, the conflict is more of a “Muslim-Jewish” one than an “Arab-Israeli” one. In other words, the conflict is based on religion — Islam vs. Judaism — cloaked in Arab nationalism vs. Zionism...".

(Click on the link, please, and read the rest of it. Then re-read. Then make a copy, and keep, and hand around to any of your friends who has not 'got' that what is going in that part of the Middle East, is the Jihad Against the Jews, with the local Arab Muslims - the so-called 'Palestinians' - as the advance shock troops, or cannon fodder...).

To go with it, Martha Gellhorn's 'The Arabs of Palestine',

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1969/12/the-arabs-of-palestine/4203/

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/196110/gellhorn

published in 1961, six years before the Six Day War, at a time when Islamic Egypt ruled Gaza and when Arab Islamic 'Jordan' (an artificial entity created by the British in the 1920s) having driven out every last Jew in an act of religious 'cleansing', ruled over a Judenrein Old City of Jerusalem and a Judenrein Judea and Samaria (which it renamed 'the west bank').

Gellhorn repeatedly encounters such mind-boggling nonsense and lies from so many of the Arabs - Muslim or Islamochristian - that she interviews, nonsense and lies easily revealed to be such, by a little elementary fact-checking, that she coins the term 'mad-hattery' to describe it.

And that brings me to the third link, in which a different writer also picks up on what Gellhorn calls 'mad-hattery', and applies the humble term 'Bullshit', recently given a precise technical meaning by an American writer Harry Frankfurt in a whole long book called 'On Bullshit'.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/42534

Thursday, 14 June 2012
Alex Joffe On "Palestinian" Muslims And The Fabrication Of History

From The Middle East Quarterly.
http://www.meforum.org/3262/palestinian-history-nonsense

The Rhetoric of Nonsense
Fabricating Palestinian History

by Alexander H. Joffe
Summer 2012, pp. 15-22


Excerpt, to give you the flavour of what Joffe is saying:

"...Types of Palestinian Rhetoric

'Why then should Abbas make such an incredible fabrication? And why lie in such a ludicrous and extravagant fashion?

'Part of the answer is that for Abbas, as it was for PLO leader Yasser Arafat before him, there is a reflex that simply and absolutely cannot accept the antiquity of Jews.

'Arafat famously told then-U.S. president Bill Clinton that there was no Jewish temple in Jerusalem, causing the usually unflappable Clinton to nearly explode.

'Denials regarding the Jewish historical connection to the Land of Israel generally and categorical denials that Jews constitute a nation are all frequently heard from Palestinian leaders, intellectuals, and others.

'A useful avenue of investigation is to consider Abbas's words as a type of rhetoric with a form and underlying philosophy.

'When viewed in this way, Abbas's spokesman was not lying as such but doing something else.

'As philosopher Harry Frankfurt put it

QUOTE "The fact about himself that the bullshitter hides … is that the truth-values of his statements are of no central interest to him; what we are not to understand is that his intention is neither to report the truth nor to conceal it …

"A person who lies is thereby responding to the truth, and he is to that extent respectful of it …

"For the bullshitter, however, all these bets are off: He is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false.

"His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose." UNQUOTE


'As Frankfurt describes it, such nonsensical rhetoric is constructed impulsively and without thought—entirely out of whole cloth.

'It is unconcerned with truth and so, unlike a lie, has license to be panoramic, unconcerned with context.

'The user is endeavoring to bluff, and the desire for effect is paramount.

'Whereas lying is austere and rigorous because it must triangulate against truth, nonsense loses, and loosens, the grasp on reality.

'In that sense, its effect is corrosive, a matter not discussed by Frankfurt.

Stating nonsense to suit one's purpose is only one of three obvious Palestinian rhetorical strategies.

'Lying, knowingly distorting the truth, is another...'

If you haven't read this one, do please click on the link and read the rest of it. It's a keeper.



nadimkawar says "Dear Bliz2b I am sure we share the same values which are the values of the western democracy but it seems we have different approaches,"

I highly doubt that dear friend because it is hard to believe that any Muslim who is honest about Islam can share western values as well. Obama lied through his teeth when he told the Egyptians that Islam is compatable with America. It is a blatant lie. Islam is diametrically opposed to ALL western values, You can either embrace freedoms of the west or be shackled to the oppressive tennents of Islam. I am sorry but you cannot have them both, and not be termed a hypocrite.

nadimkawar says "I think that the unconditional support of Israel with its strategy of oppressing and killing the Palestinian people and keeping them under a brutal occupation only gives the Islamic extremist a platform where they can increase there supporters between Moderate Muslims ..."

You have just opened a can of worms here my friend. Just because sheikh Obama and some of the spineless European leaders have sold their souls, bent backwards to appease Muslims, you want the Israeli leadership to do the same? I am sorry but it seems to me that you are sniffing some sort of exortic glue.

The fact of the matter is that there has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there was never such a thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for JEWS who lived in the British controlled land, not the Arabs. The arabs who are now occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan, not the Jewish state.
The entire myth of a Palestinian nation-hood was foisted by the PLO terrorist organization. Many of these ruthless terrorists were honest about this lie admitting that they created this ‘people’ for the express purpose of driving the Jews in the Holy Land into the sea.

Please view these videos and be honest with yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSOa1u2pW1A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1N1zhUm84w&feature=related

Israel deserves our unconditional support no matter what kind of tantrums Muslims want to throw.

nadimkawar says "I am against "Sharia Law" and for separation between religion and state"
That is nice, but please have the gonads to admit that what you believe in is not truly Islamic, because there is no concept of such a separation between religion and state. The thought you are processing as ideal is actually what Jesus Christ taught, and is a foreign concept in Islam, where religion controls every single aspect of one's life.

nadimkawar says "...and I am convinced that there will be no true development in the middle east without implementing the Western values in our countries."

There will never be true peace in the middle east as long as Islam rules the hearts and minds of of people there, because the koran states explicitly that Jews are the enemy that must be eradicated. Palestinians will never be satisfied with any deal they get from the Jewish state, that is because it is not peace they are looking for but the ultimate destruction and occupation of the tiny Jewish state.

You seem like a reasonable guy who values western freedom. Invistigate Islam with honesty and you will realize how much lies and deception it requires to stay afloat.

Very good and informative posts by dumbledoresarmy above.

3. "My enemies turn back;
they stumble and perish before you.
4. For you have upheld my right and my cause;
you have sat on your throne,
judging righteously. Psalm 9:3-4

1. "I wll praise you, O LORD, with all my heart;
I will tell of all your wonders.
2. I will be gland and rejoice in you; I will sing praise to your name,
O Most High." Psalm 9:1-2
written by KING DAVID in the BIBLE.

(mr. spencer keeps God's angels busy!)

dumbledoresarmy,
Thank you for those links. I saved all five of them. Have so far read the Simpson article -- excellent. The Atlantic article looks long and fascinating.

Robert, you have one creepy and evil fan club ...

and "yahoo" certainly is the stalker from hell!

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