Don’t blame the Taliban (part III)

Kunwar Khuldune Shahid is a courageous Pakistani writer who published the first part of this essay in Pakistan Today -- it was later taken down (not surprisingly), but I reposted it here. Then he published the second part in the Telegraph. And now I am pleased to present part III as a Jihad Watch exclusive. -- RS

Don’t blame the Taliban III
Let’s bring everything into context
by Kunwar Khuldune Shahid

Ever since Taliban’s attack on Malala Yousafzai, there’s almost universal condemnation of the act and of the ‘Taliban ideology’. Even though there are exceptions, most notably in Pakistan where a lot of people bizarrely consider the schoolgirl a CIA agent and the attack a US-staged hoax, the general consensus is that the Taliban and their religious understanding is to be blamed for the increasing violence that is being committed in the name of Islam. Muslim apologists claim that since Islam is inherently peaceful, whenever violence is committed in the name of their religion, the offender has taken the hostile and dubious teachings out of context – much like every single individual who dares to criticize Islam. However, a closer and unprejudiced study of the Quran reveals that in a lot of the cases when you actually ‘bring things into context’, the overall meaning of the controversial verses ironically becomes prodigiously more repugnant.

Quran, as ambiguous as it is in most other matters, quite unmistakably and repetitively asserts the need of violence to spread Allah’s message. However, the problem lies in the criteria for when violence is legitimate and when it isn’t, which seems to fluctuate haphazardly throughout the Quran. That particular problem is solved when one considers the time and the chronological order of the revealed Surahs, and Al-Nasikh Wal-Mansukh (The Doctrine of Abrogation). The Doctrine of Abrogation is an integral part of the study of Quran, and not at all “contentious” as the Generation Y apologists of Islam would have you believe. Claiming that the doctrine is debatable would mean directly questioning the four caliphs, the six Sahi Hadith compilers and pretty much every single Islamic scholar born before the 20th century AD. Hence, unless you are planning on slashing question marks over the teachings of the likes of Abu Bakr Siddiq, Umar Bin Khattab, Ali Bin Abi Talib, Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari, Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj, Ibn Jawzi, Ibn Kathir, Ibn Qayyim, etc, you really can’t question the doctrine.

The primary reason the ‘Al-Nasikh Wal-Mansukh’ doctrine becomes a necessity while trying to interpret the Quran is because of the myriad contradictions. Let’s take a minor example of the prohibition of alcohol in the Quran, which was conjured up in three stages and in three different Surahs (4:43, 2:219, 5:93-4). If one were to ignore the doctrine then according to (4:43) which states:

“O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying…”

Drinking alcohol, and even praying after recently consuming it, becomes permissible as long as you “know what you are saying”.

And this is one of many examples of the doctrine which clarified how the contradictory verses are abrogated by the Surahs that chronologically followed the Surahs that had the contradictions. But since the focus of this piece is violence, we’ll just stick to that for the time being.

The two most noteworthy “sword” verses (9:5) and (9:29), both from Surah-at-Tawbah, are often cited by the critics of Islam as clear examples of Islam encouraging violence against non-believers, while the apologists claim that the verses are taken out of context and Islam only prescribes “defensive” Jihad. So what exactly is the context?

Verses(9:5) and (9:29), respectively translate into:

“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful”

And

“Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

Surah-at-Tawbah was revealed during the Battle of Tabuk in 9 AH and was one of the last Surahs revealed to the prophet. So, one merely needs to look into the historical context of the battle to gauge the message of the Surah. This battle against the Byzantine Empire was initiated by the prophet when the emperor, Heraclius was apparently preparing an attack on the Muslims – like expansionists and dictators throughout the course of history an excuse was always conjured up at the time to ‘justify’ aggression.

The sword verses abrogate over 120 Quranic verses and the treaties calling for peace with the non-believers that allowed them to practice their own religions without any coercion. This is vindicated by the very first verse of the Surah, which is the only Surah in the Quran that doesn’t begin with bismillah:

“A declaration of immunity from God and His apostle to the idolaters with whom you have made agreements” (9:1)

Verse 9:29, revealed during the preparation of Battle of Tabuk, kick started the three-pronged Muslim course of battle– 1. Invitation to accept Islam 2. Demand for the payment of Jizya and 3. Instigation of war. This tradition was carried forward throughout Islam’s expansionist phase; wherein refusal to accept Islam or pay Jizya was considered reason enough to launch a “defensive” war against the infidels. This trend was continued by the first four caliphs of Islam and the leaders that followed en route to formulating a gargantuan Islamic empire. Again, if the “blessed companions” of the prophet misapprehended his and Allah’s ostensible concept of a “defensive war” the skeptics of Islam can be forgiven for the “misunderstanding” as well. Or of course it could mean that the prophet, the caliphs, and leading Islamic scholars understood the concept of Jihad rather well but the present-day apologists want Quran’s message to appear differently, since the original command doesn’t fit in too nicely with the modern-day norms.

It is amusing how the apologists would summon their context scrutinizing radars for the violent verses, while the ‘peaceful’ verses are supposed to be universal. Why not bring the peaceful verses into context as well.

Ayats like (2:256) and (2:90), which order the Muslims to “not transgress” and claim that there should be no “compulsion in religion”, are from the early phase in Madina, where Muslims were trying to appease the Jews and gain their support. The oft-highlighted verse (5:51) which ordered the Muslims to not take Jews and Christians for friends or they’d be “one of them” was revealed in the build up to the Khyber Expedition in 7AH, when the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza was obliterated. The entire Surah 5 – Al Maida – castigates Jews and Christians for distorting the original message of Allah and is a significant shift from the earlier Quranic Surahs which showcased relative tolerance towards the non-believers.

In fact, understanding the context of the violent and peaceful verses is rather simple – it moves in synchrony with the militaristic strength of the Muslims at the time, and the political agenda. This is why most verses that propagate peace are from Makkah – when the Muslims were barely in their hundreds – or from the early days in Medina, when Muslims were still establishing themselves as a power to be reckoned with. And as soon as they had enough power to “subdue” the non-believers by forcibly converting them or compelling them to pay taxes, voila! The commandments arrived ordering precisely that.

Apart from the plethora of hostile messages in the Quran, there are countless examples from the Sunnah and the Hadith, which encourage brutality. You have the example of the shortlist of the people to be assassinated at the Conquest of Makkah – some of which for accusations as minor as singing songs against the prophet. There are examples like that of Asma bint Marwan, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, Uqba bin Abu Muayt, Abu Afaq, Ibn Sunayna, who were assassinated according to the prophet’s order for their satire and poetry against him.

These are all teachings and historical precedents emanating from those very scriptures wherein the ‘peaceful’ side of Islam and the prophet is dug out from. How the apologists like to deal with these facts has been described in the second part of this series of articles, as they continue to study Islam from their rose-tinted glasses.

The Taliban are the product of studying Islam and nothing but Islam; the Islamic apologists are the product of studying concepts derived from other human beings and then trying to forcibly merge them into Islamic teachings quite often to justify their lives, the lives of their ancestors and the ideological rationale of their sovereign states.

The Taliban understandably aren’t particularly fond of Muslim apologists, as asserted by Ehsanullah Ehsan, the Pakistani Taliban spokesman, following the Malala attack. They probably don’t understand how they – the Taliban: the students of Islam, who do nothing but study Islam and its scriptures and endeavor to personify them – are misapprehending the ideology, while most Muslim apologists – who quite often don’t even border on following the basic Islamic tenets – seem to understand Islam better than them. What they also don’t understand is the post-9/11 concept of Jihad, which apparently means “striving hard against your inner-self”, since the Quran and Hadith unyieldingly glorify and are brimming with rewards for those that die in a war against the infidels, while self-improvement is not quite as exalted.

The Taliban are merely striving to propagate the message of the Quran and of the prophet how it’s said to have expanded in the 7th century AD. Islam orders the true Muslims to wage war against those who spread Fitna, which is described in (2:217) as disbelieving Allah and not following his path. This basically means that the Muslims are ordered to ensure that every part of the world follows the Islamic way of life, and use violence – if need be – to ascertain Islamic supremacy. The Taliban understand the meaning and act accordingly, the Islamic scholars throughout the past 1400 years comprehend it and elaborate it accordingly in their tafsirs and literature, but the apologists are hell bent on claiming, and perhaps believing, what they want the teachings to articulate –not what they actually proclaim –at the cost of multitudinous lives.

Islam needs a massive revamp for it to become attuned with the present day, which should begin with not taking it literally as the word of a divine deity. One could then perceive the Sunnah as fitting for the political movement at the time, and mould the teachings to ensure their compatibility with the modern age. We would then have the ideology that the Muslim apologists propagate, which although is quite palatable and tranquil, it is still light years away from the original Islamic scriptures and their teachings. Till then, there is no point blaming the Taliban or other Muslim terrorist organizations for taking the Islamic teachings way too literally, because that is precisely how they were supposed to be taken, and were taken, by their ideological predecessors 1400 years ago.

Kunwar Khuldune Shahid is a Pakistani financial journalist; social and religious critic who is currently working as the Editor, (Business and City) at Pakistan Today. He can be reached at khulduneshahid@gmail.com and tweets @khuldune.

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Amazing article Mr. Shahid... Such an honest and precisely correct point of view from someone living in an Islamic country is truly rare. I am surprised that there has not been a fatwa declared against him as yet.
Nevertheless Mr. Shahid we hope you continue to be the voice of truth in the lists of lies that even our own leftist zombies are propagating in order to be politically correct.

Amazing article Mr. Shahid... Such an honest and precisely correct point of view from someone living in an Islamic country is truly rare. I am surprised that there has not been a fatwa declared against him as yet.
Nevertheless Mr. Shahid we hope you continue to be the voice of truth in the lists of lies that even our own leftist zombies are propagating in order to be politically correct.

Sounds about right to me...And just think, it all started when a drunken and incoherent angel started talking to a psychotic Arab...It all went downhill from there...

Islam needs a massive revamp for it to become attuned with the present day, which should begin with not taking it literally as the word of a divine deity. One could then perceive the Sunnah as fitting for the political movement at the time, and mould the teachings to ensure their compatibility with the modern age.

Trouble is, since 1928 (when Hassan al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood in response to Kemal Ataturk's 1924 abolition of the Caliphate), Islam has indeed been undergoing a massive revamp -- of which 9/11 was the culmination. It is, unhappily, a revamp in precisely the opposite direction you propose. Moreover, anyone who tries to undertake a revamp for a more "palatable and tranquil" Islam is either attacked physically (as in the Muslim world) or rhetorically (by the OIC, CAIR, Hillary Hamhocks, et al.).

The best of luck to you, sir, but ... walk heavy and watch your six.

Kunwar Khuldune Shahid should be appointed as the official White House adviser on Pakistan and on all affairs connected to the Taliban. In fact, there should be a sane world, a round table advisory committee which would include him and Robert Spencer, and a few other genuine, unflinching experts, which would work virtual miracles in securing America's safety and creating a successful, logic and fact driven foreign policy in the muslim world that actually works. The billions of dollars that would be saved, the thousands of lives preserved, and the dis-empowerment of the jihad warlords would be a complete game changer in a very short time. And, quite frankly, the average muslim in the world would be a lot better off as a result.

So, we are not to take the word of a "divine deity" (is there any other kind?) literally? Translated into Christianese, does that mean I am not to take "literally" such verses as "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God...and thous shalt love they neighbor as thyself", where the Gospel gives us God Incarnate himself (Jesus Christ) quoting the Torah?

Granted, I have a Scripture which grabs me by the collar and demands that I look at contexts (oh, the glories of having a Sacred Book that was written over a span of roughly two millennia and includes huges swaths of narrative, rather than one written by a single man in a single lifetime). But I can foresee the moral equivalence and up-with-theological-ignorance crowd crowing over Shahid's article; even if I would also join those who welcome its honesty.

But I also wonder if maybe the trouble with Islam is that it is far too well attuned with the present day: violent, seeking for a charismatic "Great Leader", quick to lower moral standards for the sake of its in-group, etc. Indeed,from the actions of its most devout members, Islam seems very well-attuned to a sword age and wolf age, in which there is no longer mercy among men.

Of course in realiy we all know that the Pakistan Taliban really did that terrible ,cruel and heinous attack the that young helpless girl. What cowards they have proven themselvs to be by doing this viscious and brutial act with murderous intent. The extreme misogyny that the Taliban have because of the doctrines and teaching of Islam regarding females. As Brigitte Gabriel wrote in her book THE MUST BE STOPPED "Women in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt."

The question is, if you take the violence and the Koran from Islam, what's left?

There have been Islam sects: Sufis, Ahmadis, Alewites, and Ismailis, to name a few. They have all been persecuted by the larger Muslim groups as apostates. Also, their histories have generally not been so peaceful.

The worst part of "reforming" Islam is that the reformed Islamic group now claims to be free of violence, and demands to be treated as non-threatening in matters of, say, immigration. But, their commitment to "peace" does not constitute a renunciation of the central core of Islam.

We might actually be better off with the Taliban than with the "reformed" Muslims who maintain Islamic teaching, but selectively ignore portions of it for a time.

I honestly don't know why someone who recognizes Islam what what its teachings and history make it, would want to stay with it. They're essentially throwing away Islam and constructing their own religion. Why keep the shell? The shell, by the way, retains its danger and potency in remission. When the opportunity arises, or when the political winds blow the right way, the children of the "reformed" Muslims suddenly become orthodox, and a physical threat.

"I ..don't know why someone who recognizes Islam what what its teachings and history make it, would want to stay with it. They're essentially throwing away Islam and constructing their own religion. Why keep the shell? The shell, by the way, retains its danger and potency in remission."

Yes that is exactly so.

An apt analogy is - Islam is like the HIV virus. The Jihadists and Islamists are like the people with full blown AIDS.

Not everyone carrying the HIV virus has full blown AIDS, but the danger is there.

The solution is to get rid of the AIDS virus.

It is amusing how the apologists would summon their context scrutinizing radars for the violent verses, while the ‘peaceful’ verses are supposed to be universal. Why not bring the peaceful verses into context as well.

Yes, this is an oft-overlooked ploy, deployed by Muslim apologists slyly and consciously, and by Useful Idiot apologists with stars in their eyes occluding their ability to see the Sultan With No Clothes.

Shahid writes:

Islam needs a massive revamp for it to become attuned with the present day, which should begin with not taking it literally as the word of a divine deity. One could then perceive the Sunnah as fitting for the political movement at the time, and mould the teachings to ensure their compatibility with the modern age.

Sounds wunderbar! And after we get that done, we can work on other easy projects -- like inventing a time machine; transforming mountains into edible protein to solve world hunger; and fixing my Vista laptop.

Trouble is, since 1928 (when Hassan al-Banna founded the Muslim Brotherhood in response to Kemal Ataturk's 1924 abolition of the Caliphate), Islam has indeed been undergoing a massive revamp -- of which 9/11 was the culmination.

Yes, but I think it's more accurate to consider 911 to be not a culmination (that implies the process has concluded) but a crucial stimulation catapulting the process into high gear -- which we have seen in the decade after 911, with the "Arab Spring" being one of the most conspicuous manifestations.

The point that Shahid doesn't seem to recognize is that for religious followers to take their divine texts "literally" is not the direct problem -- it is the content in those texts that are taken literally that is the problem. Secondly, he's not aware of the fact that even literalists contextualize; and so Shahid is ignoring the broader, deeper problem of the underlying meme of Islam, the spirit in the letter, so to speak.

His call to "revamp" Islam would be to destroy Islam and replace it with some Non-Islam. It would be like telling the Alcoholics Anonymous movement they have to "revamp" their beliefs in order to become a looser more mellow club where members can enjoy a beer or a martini or a glass of wine or a pineapple daiquiri now and then.

Hi B! I am from Iran there are people like him living in muslim coentality.
muntries to the tune of thousands. Most of fear for their lives. This guy just like robert said is very brave. but do not hold your breath the will eventually do him in. That is the jihadists m

"The point that Shahid doesn't seem to recognize is that".. I am so clever, he is a fool, nobody gets the point that I get, so I will keep repeating it... only I can understand things and no one else gets it, clever, clever me. I thought I was "one of us" but now I think I am one of me.

"The point that Shahid doesn't seem to recognize is that".. I am so clever, he is a fool, nobody gets the point that I get, so I will keep repeating it... only I can understand things and no one else gets it, clever, clever me. I thought I was "one of us" but now I think I am one of me.

RS says this one is JW exclusive.that means he is aware of JW and the true nature of islam propagated by this site.his writing an exclusive to JW is a dare-devil act,considering he is in a fanatical society claiming arab origins.
surely he is in trouble,if news breaks out that he's given an exclusive report to an anti-muslim site.may be the Rajput bravery still runs in his blood.[kunwar is a subsect/clan of Rajputs who valiantly held back muslim invaders for centuries,though some aligned with/converted to islam during mogul rule in India]

he with his family better leave pakistan.

"he with his family better leave pakistan."

No need to be concerned; we have it on good authority (the learned Kinana of Khaybar and his lapdog Rich) that, statistically speaking, Muslims have little need to be afraid of being killed for such things as Shahid (or Shakila) are doing. Which is good news: it means that Islam can be reformed -- even "revamped"! Hallelujah! (Or should I say Inshallah!)

Why the sniping at Kinana?

I do think you are exaggerating somewhat.

*I* didn't read his postings - in that particular thread - that way. I don't think they necessarily implied what *you* are sweepingly implying.

Brilliant article!!!

Shahid speaks about Islam I; Islamic Holy Texts; Quran-Hadiths-Sira and Islam II; the interpretation and doctrine of highly respected (by Muslims) Islamic scholars. Islam III is how all the self-confessed Muslims in all their variations, versions, interpret I + II.

He asserts that in the past, presumably until somewhere in the late 20th century, or perhaps until 9/11 the sort of literalist agressive "Taliban-like" interpretation was not disputed.

He describes roughly 3 categories of people who interpret Islam's teachings nowadays; The literalist Taliban-like Muslims, the Skeptics or Critics of Islam, or anti-Islamists or Counterjihadists and the newly formed group of Islam-apologists, who try to make Islam more acceptable to democratic non-Muslims nowadays.

He writes that if the blessed companions understood Muhammad's teachings in an agressive way then Skeptics can be forgiven to understand it in the same way. This is very important because oftentimes indeed literalist Muslims and Islam-skeptics agree with each other about the meaning of Islamic holy texts on many issues, while both disagree with Islam-apologists.

Yet what do Islam-apologists and leftist helpers tend to say: of course that Islam is peaceful and compatible with democracy, but also they almost always assert that this is what "Islam" is about, and what it is for and against and what it is about, and what it aims for or aims not for. As if there could be only one valid interpretation of Islam, on a variety of issues and vexed questions, and all other interpretations on those issues and questions are false. Whereas they should have said that it was only their groups interpretation of Quran-Hadiths-Sira.

But I suspect they do not want to lose the unity of the Ummah. But by staying in the Ummah they should be considered totally untrustworthy, because their fellow-Muslims contradict them all the time in their words and actions.

And thus far I thought they seem to address only and very primarily the skeptics of Islam, but not much the literalist Muslims, who on many issues and questions basically say the same as the skeptics.

Yet the Islam-apologists refuse to ever side on any issue with skeptics against literalists, which is in the end the only course of action that can give them real credibility to people who really know a lot about Islam and who really understand it to a high degree.

But here Shahid also says that the Taliban are aware of and angry about the opinion of Islam-apologists that they, the Taliban, the literalists, understand Islam wrong. So far, I thought, that these literalists were aware of the differences of opinion but were thinking the Islam-apologists did not mean what they said, because they were using Taqqiya-methods.

But Shahid writes that if Islam-apologists really believed in and practiced only their version of Islam, that version would be modern and compatible with democratic states and principles and laws. And if the vast majority of Muslims followed this symbolic, time-bound, modern Islam-version, then peaceful coexistence between Muslims and Non-Muslims would become feasible almost everywhere, in the end.

Many skeptics of Islam are extremely skeptic about this "dream" but the very least the Islam-apologists should attempt to do is to define their version of Islam (and declare that it IS a version of Islam, and not the only valid interpretation of Islam) and side with modern democratic people against totalitarian Islamic literalists,

On a crucial selection of issues and vexed questions concerning Islamic and Democratic tenets and broadcast this position to the world, in order to regain their now totally compromised and eroded(by fellow Muslims with different versions of Islam) credibility, trustworthyness.

...but the very least the Islam-apologists should attempt to do is to define their version of Islam (and declare that it IS a version of Islam, and not the only valid interpretation of Islam) and side with modern democratic people against totalitarian Islamic literalists...

That would be great -- if there more than 17 of them in the whole freaking planet Earth.

dda,

Since my response to your question ballooned into a comment way too long, I pasted it into a space on my blog:

http://glossaryhesperado.blogspot.com/2012/11/my-response-to-dumbledoresarmy-re.html

Well, that's pretty sneaky and dishonest. I can't say I'm surprised. Above, you introduce into the thread irrelevant and false charges against me*, then provide a lengthy response making more false charges against me that you've tucked away in some part of your blog, instead of providing me with the link at the appropriate thread.

I will briefly address this nonsense, the amount time permitting, at the appropriate thread.

Kunwar Khuldune Shahid has written an excellent article.

As I read it, it appeared to me that he has made some of the same or similar insights as have been made here at Jihadwatch. Indeed, some of his observations look like they could have been taken from a draft of the Handbook for Infidel Debaters which I and some others were working on some years ago. For example, these statements--

"...a closer and unprejudiced study of the Quran reveals that in a lot of the cases when you actually ‘bring things into context’, the overall meaning of the controversial verses ironically becomes prodigiously more repugnant"

and

"It is amusing how the apologists would summon their context scrutinizing radars for the violent verses, while the ‘peaceful’ verses are supposed to be universal. Why not bring the peaceful verses into context as well"

--in their gist look like talking points that I wrote.

It seems likely that Shahid either read some Islam critic making these points, or else arrived at the same observations originally and logically as a result of his own critical engagement with the Islamic materials and corresponding Islamic apologetics.

I question the literalism-is-the-problem line he takes at the end. Indeed, this was treated as an apologetic line and refuted in the draft Handbook. Abandoning literalism is at best a facilitator for bending the Islamic texts into line with modern western (or some would say, universal) notions of human rights, freedoms, and equality. Abandoning literalism may seem pragmatic to its advocates, but it is I think morally unprincipled and intellectually dishonest. (No need for bending; just keep the modern western values and jettison the Quran and Sunnah).

Overall, again though, Shahid has produced an incisive, impressive analysis.

1) My reply to dumbledoresarmy was 2,070 words long. There's nothing "sneaky and dishonest" about doing other readers the courtesy of not dumping such a humungus comment -- tangential to the original topic to boot -- in a thread.

2) I only posted it at all because dumbledoresarmy asked me a question; though I see she hasn't extended me the courtesy of acknowledging the time and trouble I went to answer her question. Even a terse, "Okay, thanks LL" would have been nice. That'll be the last time I answer any of her questions.

3) You're exaggerating my power in your paranoid fantasy. I'm just a person with an opinion, articulating that opinion. If you have problems with the opinion, address those problems, and stop attacking me (and here, I'm using the word attack properly, unlike your consistent misuse of the word).

As I said, you are sneaky and dishonest in this case for (a) posting this absurd, false, irrelevant misrepresentation of me [which dda fairly labels "sniping"] here instead of in the appropriate thread, and (b) not posting the link to your lengthy squirreled-away blog comment in the appropriate thread.

It is as though you were afraid I might actually get a chance to respond to your absurd mischaracterizations. Why is that?

Not paranoid at all, Hespo-pesto. I just correctly recognize that you are an inveterate asshole* with nothing better to do than to try to sabotage other people's comments through deliberate misrepresentation.

*Self-explanatory example supporting this label: Hesperado wrote, re dda:
"2) I only posted it at all because dumbledoresarmy asked me a question; though I see she hasn't extended me the courtesy of acknowledging the time and trouble I went to answer her question. Even a terse, "Okay, thanks LL" would have been nice. That'll be the last time I answer any of her questions."

See? Asshole.

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