Gaza jihadist savages hit two Israeli schools with rockets

This will be hard to spin so that the "Palestinians" have the moral high ground, so the mainstream media will probably just ignore it.

"Second Ashkelon school hit by missile fire from Gaza," from the Times of Israel, November 19 (thanks to Benedict):

A rocket fired from Gaza has hit a school in Ashkelon. This is the second time on Monday that a school in the city was hit by a Hamas missile. No injuries were reported, though the school building was damaged.
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the jihadists always pick to most valunarable target to kill. so there is no surprise here.
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Thank goodness no Israelis got hurt.

With all the terrible things that are going on in the Middle East, as in the above article, and other places of the world because of Islam it very much should be noted that the god of Islam is not the God of the Bible. Though the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word Allah is just the Arabic word for God. This started when truth compromising Bible "translators" substitued the word Allah where the word God should have been used in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the gossary in the book ASSASSINS! by Haha Lung defines Allah as the "Pre-Islamic Lunar god; the god of Islam." Likewise, the book INSIDE ISLAM by Reza f. sAFA ON PAGES 22,23. READS "In pre-Islamic times both Allah-worship and Ball-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which defines them as astral religions.[Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 21:3,5 23:5. Second Chronicles 33:5.] The cresent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship is also the sysbol of Islam." In short, the god of Islam is not the God of the Bible.

The words in brackets are my own. Also the above truth is further exopsed in the books...
WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G.J.O. Moshay
UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Feti Caner
THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey
PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett
WHY I LEFT JIHAD by Walid Shoebat

Savages indeed. Not surprised since Islam produces savages in droves.

the Allah god (unknowable; as imagined) might be an evironmentalist because it encourages the adherants (mostly savages) to rape and burn and destroy so as to purify a land and thereby leave no trace of what once was ... except what could be found in an enlarge gene pool.

the adherants have as their prime path guide Muhammad (lately contrived) of whom there is not trace, save the wonderful knowledge of enslavement as found in the SHARIA, derived from recollections of the aforementioned savage phatom by descendants (in thought and musing).

You must have that wrong Stephanie. Only 3 hours ago I heard a Hamas spokesman on radio say very clearly that there had been no aggression at all from Gaza.
A female Palestinian Authority rep to the UN, complete with no hijab and bare arms (surely unislamic) said much the same on TV. Indeed she stated that the recent targetting of a jihadi leader (the wonderful and accurate car targetting) is what started all the rocket fire - which rather ignores the 800? rockets since January.
Israel unfortunately has some 5th columnists as well. A female Israeli journalist came out on the side of hamas. According to her Israel is the aggressor. The blockade is inhumane. Silly me . I'd thought that the blockade was an (unsuccessful) attempt to prevent the importation of weapons. (Hamas now says, on record, that all weapons have been provided by Iran.). The journalist also bemoaned the intense suffering in Gaza. Mmmm - all TV pictures show a rather greater proportion of expensive new cars than in my neck of the woods where people actually work. And hey 80% of food is provided free. I could go on but won't. Don't want to risk a heart attack at my age.

And here is something, from the inimitable 'Hugh Fitzgerald', former frequent contributor to this forum, which all jihadwatchers may like to copy, and print off, and read and re-read, and keep up our sleeves, for the educating of people, when conversation turns to 'the middle east' and to what is happening in and around Gaza right now.


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/44948

Monday, 19 November 2012
How To Lie With Statistics

Just to give an idea of the flavour, this is how Hugh begins (he is commenting sarcastically on all the nonsense talk about 'disproportion' that is beginning to creep into the news coverage):

"Apparently it is poor sportsmanship on the part of Israel not to let more of its citizens be killed by the thousands of rockets sent in the direction of Israel's towns and cities by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, tutti quanti, all those who take Islam most to heart.

"It would only be right if Israel refrained from coming up with such things as the Iron Dome, and when -- as happened yesterday -- a Muslim rocket is about to hit an Israeli school, the Israelis manage to blow that rocket up in time.

"Isn't that fair?

"Why should the Western world, "wrapped in the arms of science," as Churchill famously said, be allowed to come up with ways to protect itself from the murderous frenzy of hysterical Muslims?...".

Click on the link.

Read the rest of it.

Hugh's combination of laser-like moral clarity, icy commonsense, white-hot wrath and withering sarcasm is quite something.

"IRANIAN ARMS SHIP BOUND FOR GAZA REPORTEDLY CARRYING
LONG-RANGE ROCKETS ABLE TO REACH TEL AVIV, JERUSALEM"


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/iranian-arms-ship-bound-for-gaza-found-carrying-long-rage-rockets-able-to-reach-tel-aviv-jerusalem/

Thanks for those links, dda. They're spot on. And I hope you are doing well.

A PS. At least one BBC journalist did say that the rockets from Gaza had somewhat reduced today. He also said "there could be several reasons for that and one could be that they are running out of rockets". Well that fits. Islamic rules say only agree a truce if "on the back foot". Then re-group and re-arm - and of course start again later. Pity Western politicians refuse to understand islamic doctrine.
I'm English so perhaps I have an anglocentric view. As I recall Balfour proposed splitting the area of the British Mandate, collectively known as palestine, into Jewish lands and Arab lands. Everything West of the Jordan would be become Israel and everything East would become Trans Jordan. All the area was sparsely populated then - 1917 - and much of the land was by then poor - particularly because of nomadic arabs who, since 7th century muslim invasion, had progressively destroyed agriculture - as they did everywhere they invaded.
During the British Mandate some significant improvement took place and this attracted Arab immigrants looking for work (yes they actually worked then)
WWII of course bankrupted the UK and British resolve evaporated particularly because of both Jewish and Arab terrorists. Britain handed the decision to the UN - at American insistence. Committees of course will make a cock-up of designing even a bikeshed and they did that big-time. Hence the currently stupid apportionment of land and the conflicts. The Balfour proposal would have been far more sensible. Might not have totally stopped Arab muslim aggression though. Just my two pen'orth (two pennies' worth)

This will be hard to spin so that the "Palestinians" have the moral high ground, so the mainstream media will probably just ignore it.

No need to "spin" anything. A fine example is the earlier piece on Beeb bigotry, to demonstrate that once a narrative has been promoted it may be embroidered for further ideological gain, but never needs to be defended.

It does not matter if it is wrong, slanted or more often an outright lie, since Muslims, the Lib Left and other Jew haters will still believe it.

You wrote - "Might not have totally stopped Arab muslim aggression though."

NOTHING 'stops' Muslim aggression: the jihad imperative is hardwired into Islam.

But it can be, shall we say, deterred, if the intended target appears big enough and cranky enough for an attack not to succeed, and/ or if the first Muslim 'probes' or 'raids' or feelers put out, to test the strength of the target, are instantly met by the application of the equivalent of a ten tonne hammer brought down hard and precisely upon them, followed up by repetitions of same, bang, bang, bang, until they back off.

And the ten tonne hammer will need to be kept handy, prominently displayed, and *used* again, as required, because after the Mohammedans have retreated and licked their wounds for a bit, they will be back.

Never was the saying, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, more true, than in the case of *any* non-Muslim society that has Muslim next door neighbours.

And indeed, it isn't just 'liberty' but life itself that is at stake.

We get it. We really do get it. Islam and its believers are bad. Now let's move on. Should there not be a 2 state solution, and if so, how should that come about?

darmanad wrote:

We get it. We really do get it. Islam and its believers are bad. Now let's move on. Should there not be a 2 state solution, and if so, how should that come about?
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darmanad, Muslims—including Gaza's Hamas, who has it *in their charter*—have made it clear that their goal is the outright destruction of Israel.

Any "two-state solution" would at best be a temporary situation, as they would use their new state as a launching pad for Jihad against Israel. This is *exactly* what happened when Israel ceded Gaza to the "Palestinians".

You sneeringly dismiss the idea that Islam is "bad", but the fact is that Muslims have made it clear that they will never accept a Jewish state.

The creation of Jordan did not change this, and setting up a "Palestinian" state won't either.

God knows, I wish it were otherwise.

But hoping that granting statehood to the Jihadists of Gaza and the "West Bank" will lead to a flourishing polity and stable society for their own people and a peaceful neighbor for Israel, will not, alas, make it so.

"God knows, I wish it were otherwise."

Maybe all is not lost. You gotta believe that if Bibi Netanyahu and the Likud party think it can be achieved, maybe there is hope. Perhaps secular Palestinians will eventually coalesce behind a Palestinian version of Turkish patriot Kemal Ataturk.
When it comes to real politik, my observation is that the JW readers have become so anti-Islam they distort the political realities in the mideast. Please don't misunderstand me. I am outspokenly opposed to the ideology of Islam/sharia for all the self-evident reasons. I'm just not convinced an effective movement by secular Palestinians can't spearhead a break through though I suspect Abbas is not the one who can accomplish it.

darmanad wrote:

Maybe all is not lost. You gotta believe that if Bibi Netanyahu and the Likud party think it can be achieved, maybe there is hope. Perhaps secular Palestinians will eventually coalesce behind a Palestinian version of Turkish patriot Kemal Ataturk.
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darmanad, right now, most of the Muslim world is fast Islamizing. Right now, Erdogan is busy *dismantling* Atatürk's secularism.

And the very same thing is happening in the "Palestinian territories". Fatah itself is more Islamically bellicose, and the "slow Jihadists" of the "West Bank" are being eclipsed more and more by the genocidal "fast Jihadists" of Hamas.

You may not have noticed, but Hamas is launching a rocket offensive on Israel as we speak.

More:

When it comes to real politik, my observation is that the JW readers have become so anti-Islam they distort the political realities in the mideast.
.............................

How so? What evidence have you found for Muslims to become peaceful, secular neighbors to Israel? With respect, this sounds less like "real politik", and more like wishful thinking.

More:

Please don't misunderstand me. I am outspokenly opposed to the ideology of Islam/sharia for all the self-evident reasons. I'm just not convinced an effective movement by secular Palestinians can't spearhead a break through though I suspect Abbas is not the one who can accomplish it.
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Indeed not. But do you have the slightest evidence that there is a peaceful, secular movement among the "Palestinians" at all?

I certainly haven't seen any evidence for this.

As for your implication on another thread that Muslims must not represent any threat to Israel since there are Muslim members of the Knesset, read my reply there. You will find that many Knesset members themselves have discouraged Israel defender herself, have openly condoned Jihad terror against Israel, and have even been Jihad terrorists themselves.

None of this supports your positing that there is a large Muslim counter-movement among "Palestinians" against the Jihad against Israel.

As I noted before, I wish it were otherwise.

I don't disagree with much of what you have written here. The PA /Abbas are a secular entity and a potential peace partner, but I agree they are losing popular support. The reason they are losing it is because of the distorted Muslim view of the "heroics' of Hamas. If Israel and Hamas were to cease firing, it would benefit the PA/Abbas and anyone who bubbles up to the top from the PA to replace Abbas.

Above, 'darmanad' claims that "The PA /Abbas are a secular entity and a potential peace partner".

I beg to differ.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/44712

Thursday, 1 November 2012
Palestinian Pietà


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/42534
Thursday, 14 June 2012
Alex Joffe On "Palestinian" Muslims And The Fabrication Of History

From The Middle East Quarterly:

http://www.meforum.org/3262/palestinian-history-nonsense

The Rhetoric of Nonsense: 
Fabricating Palestinian History
by Alexander H. Joffe
Summer 2012, pp. 15-22

"For nearly two decades the Palestinian Authority (PA) has been denying Israel's right to exist, and a recent "Nakba Day" was no exception.

"**In a Gaza speech on behalf of Mahmoud Abbas, his personal representative made the following statement** {my emphasis - dda}

'National reconciliation [between Hamas and Fatah] is required in order to face Israel and Netanyahu. We say to him [Netanyahu], when he claims that they [Jews] have a historical right dating back to 3000 years B.C.E.—we say that the nation of Palestine upon the land of Canaan had a 7,000-year history B.C.E. This is the truth, which must be understood, and we have to note it, in order to say: "Netanyahu, you are incidental in history. We are the people of history. We are the owners of history."
This remarkable assertion has been almost completely ignored by the Western media.

Yet it bears a thorough examination: not only as an indication of unwavering Palestinian rejection of Israel's right to exist but as an insightful glimpse into the psyche of their willfully duped Western champions."...

More:
"...the Islamic rather than nationalistic basis for the Arab-Israeli conflict has been systematically downplayed [by the western press and most other western observers - dda] from the 1930s..".


As for 'nationalism':

http://www.israellycool.com/2012/10/17/azmi-bishara-there-is-no-palestinian-nation/


Azmi Bishara: “There Is No Palestinian Nation”

What Mahmoud Abbas says in Arabic on his FB page..
http://www.israellycool.com/2012/10/17/the-obama-administration-should-really-learn-arabic/

"Recognition will not happen tomorrow, but eventually it will prove our right to our land that is occupied, and not just disputed territory, but it applies to all territories occupied by Israel before June 1967."

I’ll dumb it down even more for the idiot in the White House:

"I want to destroy Israel.

'The rest of his J’accuse is the usual demonization of Israel, praising of terrorists, and claiming Jerusalem as the Palestinian holy eternal capital'...

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=282090

Abbas denies the Jewish connection to Jerusalem

And something more

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/pas-highest-religious-authority-at-moderate-fatah-event-muslims-destiny-is-to-kill-jews.html


PA's highest religious authority at "moderate" Fatah event: Muslims' destiny is to kill Jews


And some analysis of that sly faux-'moderate' Slow Jihadist the deeply-corrupt Mahmoud Abbas, or Abu Mazen:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/02/fitzgerald-the-chimera-of-mahmoud-abbas-moderation.html

"...Abbas is trivial. So is Nusseibeh. So is any temporary Arab "Palestinian" leader.

"What counts is what is permanent (as the secularist opposition to the Shah found out to their sorrow, and as secularist beneficiares of Kemalism will soon find out in Turkey) in the Islamic world: Islam itself".

And from an extended comment, by Hugh, in the course of the discussion that followed that little article:

"**The more Israel gives up, the more likely that in five, or ten years (oh, things will be hunkydory for a year or two or three), or twenty, or thirty, that another attack will take place** {my emphasis - dda}.

"If one wishes to prevent all-out war in the Middle East, the only way is first to recognize the Arab Muslim view of Israel, which cannot change with the size of that already infinesimally small state -- so small that you can hardly make it out on any map.

"**The borders do not matter in Islamic doctrine.** {my emphasis - dda}.

" It is a "cancer," it is a "dagger," it is a non-Muslim sovereignty where none can exist. It must be destroyed.

"That is the Arab Muslim view, whatever smiles, handshakes, and assurances are given to Condoleeza Rice, or George Bush, or Clinton or Carter (but Carter didn't care) or anyone else before them, or indeed to anyone who may appear, for the same farce followed by the same parade, and the same congratulations, in a future administration.

"Only when Islam is understood, both intellectually and along the spine, will things change."

More on Mahmoud Abbas.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/10/fitzgerald-abbas-and-his-demands.html

Fitzgerald: Abbas and his demands

"...Abbas' good behavior will last just as long as he needs to get the Israelis to retreat from their perfectly justified -- legally, morally, historically -- presence in the West Bank, just as he succeeded in doing in Gaza..."

And on Fayyad, another superficially-westernised plausibly smiling 'secular' Slow Jihadist of Fatah/ the PA:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/fayad-the-front-man-or-nobody-here-but-us-accountants.html


"Salam Fayad is the perfect front man for this. He's the Very Type and Original of the Nobody-Here-But-Us-Accountants School of "Palestinian" Arab representatives.

"The same could be said of the henchman for many decades of Yassir Arafat, during some of his bloodiest years, Mahmoud Abbas.

"Didn't Obama say, anent Ahmadinejad, that Holocaust-denial was intolerable?

"Yet Obama just the other day met and exchanged smiles and handshakes with Abbas, whose MGU doctoral thesis was a long-winded discussion of the "exaggerations" of the Holocaust, which is merely a form of Holocaust denial.

"Why has his involvement in the worst acts by Arafat, why has his Holocaust-denial, why has everything that Abbas said at that recent "Palestinian" gathering in Ramallah been so willfully ignored in the calculation of American policymakers, beginning at the Islam-ignorant and naive top?"...

"But who has been the model, who has been the camouflage, who has inspired Mahmoud Abbas to take on the coloration that he does, chameleontically, whenever he meets with Western leaders?

"Abbas, this Slow Jihadist, differs not in ultimate goals, but only in matters of timing and tactics, with the Fast Jihadists of Hamas.

"He needs that Western aid to keep on flowing, and flowing, and flowing, to the "Palestinians" so that they can continue to make war, in every way, on the Infidel nation-state of Israel...".

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