Hamas says Israel and jihadists close to ceasefire deal, will take effect at midnight

UPDATE: Israel denies this.

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...which would give Hamas time to gather strength. "Gaza crisis: Israel, Gaza militants may agree to ceasefire: Hamas official," from the Toronto Star, November 20:

There are conflicting reports if Israel and Gaza militants have indeed reached a ceasefire agreement.

A senior Hamas official says there is no ceasefire deal with Israel but agreement is close, according to reports from The Associated Press.

However, a report from Reuters says Israel and militants from the Gaza Strip have agreed to an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire that will come into force at midnight local time, Hamas official Ayman Taha said, speaking to Reuters from Cairo.

“An agreement for calm has been reached. It will be declared at 9.00 p.m. and go into effect at midnight,” Taha said.

Earlier in the day, residents of Jerusalem ran for cover when Palestinians fired a rocket toward the holy city for the second time since the fighting started last Wednesday. The rocket, which set off sirens in the city, landed harmlessly in an open area on the outskirts in one of the longest rocket strikes fired from the Gaza.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the rocket landed in Gush Etzion, a collection of Jewish West Bank settlements southeast of the city. Last Friday’s attempt to hit Jerusalem, nearly 80 kilometres from Gaza, landed in the same area. No one was wounded in either attack....

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Ho Hum ...

So what?

A deal with jihadists !

Yeah !

That's something you can bet the farm on.

So, here is my prediction:

Bibi lets this happen, (if it happens) ...

hamas, peacefully natured, as we know they are ... simply cannot resist sending a few more rockets into Israel.

Israel invades gaza, and lets a lot of muslims hook up with the fabled 72 virgins.

It sure would be a shame if the rabid, hamas driven jihadi's blew up their "2nd holiest site": the Al-Aqsa Mosque in the process of sending missiles to the Jewish/Christian holy city of Jerusalem.

The ONLY purpose of a hudna (Muslim cease fire) is to regroup and regather. Resumption is a given. Israel's playing the fool.

I wish Israel would finish Hamas off once and for all. More short-term casualties would result but it's highly likely that far more long-term casualties will occur by letting Hamas weasel out of things with another hudna.

So , the "gates of hell" are being closed then.

If a "truce" is signed, I predict within four weeks a rocket is fired into Irael. A guess, but we will see.

Just in, a solder in Israel's forces was just killed in a rocket attack.

No, not ceased, but freeze plan for ground operation for 24 hours; target bombing still continues.

you just beat me to it. You are I wish they would finish them off.
M

Muslims tell us they only sign peace treaties to gain time for replenishment of men, arms, and munitions. Only fools negotiate with liars and expect an honourable deal.

Once again, Hamas has bitten off more than it can chew, and now that Israel is really gearing up, Muslims want a "ceasefire".

And, of course, the civilized Israelis will agree.

Everyone who has characterized this as a Hudna is absolutely correct.

And—as usual—Gazans can continue to sporadically fire rockets into Israel, and merely imply that this isn't directly sanctioned by Hamas.

The cynicism of Islam never "disappoints"...

But.....but....if Jerusalem doesn't belong to Israel, why are the muslims firing rockets at it?

Perhaps Barry might know.

The videos at the links you posted are chilling. These creatures are sub-human. Hordes of hideous, man-like life forms, crowding around the corpses, defiling them, standing in their blood, while documenting every disgusting moment on their iphones.

I'm with you and Wellington.

Time to get this party started!

From the article (which the Toronto Star got from Associated Press) " Gush Etzion, a collection of Jewish West Bank settlements southeast of the city."

That is, 'Gush Etzion, a collection of Jewish villages in Judea, south-east of the city".

I posted something about ceasefires on a different thread

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/israel-army-orders-gaza-city-residents-to-evacuate-immediately.html

that I think bears repeating.

Here it is.


Re ceasefires, hudnas, treaties, etc and so forth.

*When*, When, When will non-Muslim nations, and their diplomats, politicians and (most important of all) generals - learn that NO 'agreement' of any kind at all, made with a Muslim party, can be trusted? That such 'agreeements', truces, treaties, hudnas, sulh, whatever, might as well be written on toilet paper in disappearing ink?

When will they also *get* that Muslims *only* call for a ceasefire, truce/treaty or hudna, when they (the Muslims) are feeling weak vis a vis the Infidels and would like some timeout to regroup and rearm? *And* that the moment the Muslims, having been granted such a timeout, feel themselves strong enough to go back in again for the kill...they will?

And when will the diplomats, politicians and generals deduce therefore that the sensible and logical thing for a non-Muslim nation and or its army to do when - as they are engaged in fending off Jihad from a Muslim state or non-state entity - said Muslim state or non-state entity sues for 'peace', 'treaty', 'hudna'/ ceasefire, is...to NOT grant the demand, but instead to go right back in and hit the Muslims harder than ever?

Because if they're calling for a 'ceasefire', they're probably feeling weak. And if they are feeling weak and perhaps really *are* weak, then maybe hitting them harder still will weaken them further...and perhaps defeat them *utterly*.

It goes against the grain for people raised within 'golden rule' reciprocity-based doasyouwouldbedoneby cultures to *do* that...but I think we have to learn to do it, when defending ourselves against Jihad, if we want to survive.

The *only* reason that a non-Muslim party, when engaged in self-defence against jihad, should accede for a nanosecond to a Muslim demand for a truce/ ceasefire, is if the non-Muslim party itself thinks it could do with a bit of a timeout. But if it does that, for that reason (and it should agree to the shortest possible time within which it thinks it can achieve its *own* refreshment of forces) then throughout the entire period agreed to, it should be fully expecting the Muslims to attack out of the blue at any moment, and should be fully prepared to meet such an attack as and when it happens.

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