Muslim Brotherhood mobilizes protests against Israel in Cairo

The Muslim Brotherhood has the presidency of Egypt right now. This cannot and will not end well. And Barack Obama and the others who enabled the Brotherhood's rise to power in Egypt bear the responsibility. If the U.S. from 9/11 on, and before that, had embarked on a policy of strengthening secular and pluralistic values in Muslim states, instead of enabling Sharia, this might not be happening today.

"Muslim Brotherhood mobilizes protests against Israel in Cairo," by Sarah Lynch for USA TODAY, November 16:

CAIRO – Thousands of Egyptians took to the streets Friday protesting Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip, waving Palestinian flags across the Egyptian capital and demanding the Egyptian government cut ties with Israel.

"We're here today to say to Israel: Go to Hell," said Mustafa Kamel from a Cairo neighborhood called Imbaba at a demonstration outside Al-Azhar Mosque that was planned by the Muslim Brotherhood. "Muslims are strong. In Egypt, we refuse Israel and the politics of America."

Demonstrations also took place in Tahrir Square following days of intense escalation in violence between Israel and the Gaza Strip, posing challenges for Egypt's new government and its president, Mohamed Morsi.

"The Muslim Brotherhood has made it clear they want to use this as an excuse to sever ties," said Eric Trager of the pro-Israeli Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

Morsi,who formerly headed the Brotherhood's political wing but no longer officially belongs to the party, is caught between his ideology and affiliation with the group and the Egyptian officials he's entrusted to manage Egypt-Israel relations, Trager said....

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No, Muslims are not strong, they are weak. They are emasculated drones living wasted lives slaving for their lords, the blood-thirsty, power-mad perverted theocrats known as imams, mullahs, ayatollahs, etc. Stong people would tell such theocrats to go to hell.

Imams should be hiding in alleys and spiderholes, shaking in fear for what's coming to them.

"Muslims are strong. In Egypt, we refuse Israel and the politics of America."

Wrong. Muslims are weak because Islam is weak. A cheap crude video, properly dissected, linking to Islamic sources, viewed by intelligent Muslims, is more than enough to destroy Islam, its prophet and its deity.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2012/10/innocence-of-muslims-dissected-arabic.html

(arabic version)

The Mubarak regime was pretty sick, and would have fallen sooner or later, even without Western support. And Syria is next. This dramatically changes the security situation for Israel. Those old secularists Nasserites may not have liked Israel, but they practiced a form of Realpolitik, to placate the West, as well as their Israeli neighbors. And Kemalist Turkey had long been a good regional friend of Israel.

But Western countries now have issues closer to home to deal with, including faltering economies, and this region is pretty low on the list of priorities. The new rulers of Egypt, as well as the Gulenists in Turkey are actively supporting the Palestinians, in anti-Israeli actions. And the Egyptian and other militaries are far better equipped than they were in 1973.

Western countries will offer moral support to Israel, but nothing more. No politician, or party in the U.S., or any other Western (Christian) nation will commit political suicide by involving their countries in a bloody and costly war, in a region with no strategic, or cultural relevance to the West--a tiny sandpit, with majority Jewish and Muslim populations. Outside of a very small Jewish minority (which mostly voted for Obama) and a fringe millenarian Evangelical element, there is general apathy towards Israel among U.S. voters.

Israel needs to take a hard look at its foreign policy, especially with respect to halting settlement construction and accepting the idea of a Palestinian state. The Netanyahu regime gambled on a hawkish foreign policy, building more settlements, and a Romney Presidency, but lost the bet. While retaliating for the rocket attacks is an appropriate response, military solutions are not going to work in the long term.

Observe string-of-letters YGM, barely able to conceal his gloating anticipation of the destruction of Israel.

Any Arab Muslim Islamic State of 'Palestine' that got established in Judea, Samaria and the Jerusalem Old City - and it *would* be, sooner or later, an Arab Islamic State of 'Palestine', not a 'secular' state, we've seen just how long assorted 'secular' states with majority-Muslim populations have lasted everywhere else in dar al Islam, they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell - would become, sooner or later, just like Gaza already has, a launching-pad for redoubled Jihad against the Jews.

As is sufficiently explained here:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/44897
Friday, 16 November 2012
Martin Sherman On The Israeli Folly That Need Not Have Been

Excerpt:

"The policy of yielding land to the Arabs [that is, to the Arab MUSLIMS - dda] in the hope of peace – or even non-belligerent stability – has failed miserably wherever it has been applied, albeit at different rates, in Gaza, Judea/Samaria, Lebanon and Sinai.

"** Any territory transferred to them invariably becomes a base to attack Israel.** {my emphasis - dda}.

"Any future policy initiatives based on this dangerous delusion are no longer acceptable.

"Jews must no longer be made to cower in bomb shelters while their hate-filled enemies shower explosive projectiles down on them at will."

However, as regards the wider strategic situation, with the inevitable collapse of assorted superficially-'secular' dictatorships/ stratokleptocracies, *is* Israel really that much worse off?

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/44876

The Commonsensical Israeli View

As for YGM's continued insistence on the 'Palestinians' and how they *must* have their state (on Judea, and Samaria, and in the Old City, and in Gaza...and, presumably, on land linking the Gaza strip with Jerusalem, and Judea and Samaria? YGM has spoken of 'a contiguous state'; what does he mean by that?...

the answer to *that*, is here:


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/44878
Thursday, 15 November 2012
Fitzgerald: The Arab-Israeli conflict: nationalism or jihad?

Excerpt: "In 1947, the Bishop of Beirut, Moubarac, understood clearly the Muslim basis of the Arab assault on Israel. His speech can be found in Bat Ye'or's Islam and Dhimmitude."

...

"The war against Israel is not an "ethnic" nor a "tribal" war by Arabs against Jews. When rants against Israel are repeated in Pakistan, or by Mahathir Mohamed in Malaysia, or by the assorted Islamic groups in Indonesia, one sees clearly that what is going on is prompted by the belief-system of Islam...".


"To assume that the war between the Arabs and Israel is ethnic or tribal ignores the rhetoric, the appeals, the views of Muslims as expressed through time and space.

"It ignores the simplest and most obvious truth: the entire world in the end belongs to Allah and his people, the best of people.

"And Israel, a sovereign state run by Jews, is a particular affront, not only for where it is situated (seeming to break up the continuity of one uninterrupted Arab Muslim landmass, as Arab Muslims see it -- for them the Maronites, the Copts, the Berbers, the Kurds, have no rights, hardly exist in what Arabs, with a little help from ARAMCO, began decades ago calling "the Arab World" - a phrase that misleads, but stuck, so that it keeps on misleading), but because the traditionally despised Jews, despised because they had no power (unlike the local Christians, who at least could look to powerful co-religionists in Western Christendom) were in charge of that sliver of land.

"The war of the Arabs against Israel is a "religious" war if we consider Islam to be a religion. It is promoted by, it springs from, the tenets, and attitudes, and atmospherics, of Islam.

"The Muslim Arabs know this. Other Muslims know this. Islamochristian Arabs pretend that it is not so. And the Israelis, of course, prefer not to recognize that it is so, because such recognition would also lead them to conclude, inexorably, that there is no end to this war, and that negotiations are merely occasions for Arab duplicity...

"And the Muslims are not taught to permit Infidels to remain with some sliver of land where their rule will prevail -- especially not on land once held by Muslims.

"So the recognition by the Israelis of the true nature of the war against them would also force them to conclude that not only are treaties largely pointless, but that there is no end to this, **for the size of Israel is irrelevant to its acceptance by the Arab Muslims** {my emphasis - dda}..

"If it further shrinks, however, it may tempt an attack,

"and the only way the peace can be kept is if the Arabs have an excuse not to attack. That excuse can be found in the idea of "Darura" or "necessity," which can be invoked to justify inaction by Arab regimes...".



YGM-76700 above, in tones of lordly contempt that match, to me, those of the French antisemitic politician who once called Israel 'a shitty little country':

"a region with no strategic, or cultural relevance to the West--a tiny sandpit..".

'With no strategic or cultural relevance to the West'.

NO cultural relevance?

Good god.

Myself, I think Ugandan ex-Muslim now-Christian Umar Mulinde has much more insight and intelligence than 'YGM' (who is sounding more and more like a Mohammedan in an ill-fitting mask):


http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/44903

Friday, 16 November 2012
Umar Mulinde Stands With Israel

"...One of the people I met was an Evangelical pastor from Uganda by the name of Umar Mulinde. Umar is an odd name for a Christian pastor. “I was named after one of the great leaders of Islam,” he said.

'This is no exaggeration. People who are familiar with Muslim history will recognize that he is named after the Muslim Caliph who established the Pact of Omar which required non-Muslims Jews and Christians to submit to second class-status under Muslim rule.

'The Pact of Omar helped set the pattern for how non-Muslims are treated under in Muslim-majority countries today. It’s a hugely important document.

'People who insist on advocating for their rights and equality engender great hostility from Islamists.

'This hostility contributes to ongoing violence against Israel in the 21st Century and violence against {indeed, open genocide committed upon - dda] Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks in what is now modern-day Turkey in the 20th Century.

'This hostility helps explain why Israelis have been subject to repeated rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip for the past few days.

'**The people who launch these attacks are trying to exercise a veto over Jewish sovereignty and freedom, and ultimately over the existence of the Jewish people altogether. What they are trying to do is to force non-Muslims into accepting the same status they endured under the Pact of Omar.** {my emphasis - dda}.

'Back to Umar. At the age of 20, Umar, who had been prepared to be a Muslim cleric, converted from Islam to Christianity...

'Muslims in Uganda, who represent only 13 percent of the population, are agitating for Shariah law to be established in Uganda.

'Mulinde and his supporters worry that such an action will result in the oppression of women and non-Muslims in Uganda, just as it has in Nigeria.

'In his campaign to prevent the introduction of Sharia into Uganda, Pastor Umar helped organize a petition that received more than 36,000 signatures.

' Mulinde is also a potent supporter of Israel. He filled a stadium with 5,000 supporters of Israel a few years back..."

Muslims attacked Umar Mulinde because of his apostasy from Islam, his resistance to Islamisation in Uganda, and his declared support for Israel.

They doused him with acid.

He is receiving treatment for his horrific injuries in...Israel.

And the article I have linked, continues:

"At one point during the conference, I ['I' being American Christian Dexter Van Zile - dda] interviewed him and the message he gave was a simple one.

**“When you defend Israel, you are defending your children.”** {my emphasis - dda}.

'During our discussion, Umar made it perfectly clear that Israel is just one target of the Islamist attempt to spread Shariah law throughout the world.

'The ideology that motivated the acid attack he endured on Christmas Eve in 2011 is the same used to justify suicide attacks against Israel during the Second Intifada and the rocket attacks that took place over the past few days.

'Christians in Uganda are starting to wake up to the fact that many in the West have failed to understand the threat presented by Islamic imperialism...

“We betray ourselves if we don’t stand with Israel,” Mulinde warns."

To repeat: here is a black African Christian, who *knows* Islam and has left it, for Christianity, for a Christianity that does not deny or reject or curse its Jewish matrix.

He's a 'big picture' man. He can see the Global Jihad. He can see Sharia, the attempt to Islamoform the world.

And this is what he says:


'When you defend Israel, you are defending your children.”

“We betray ourselves if we don’t stand with Israel".


Still banging your tin drum about a lot of nonsense, you wrote:
'Israel needs to take a hard look at its foreign policy, especially with respect to halting settlement construction and accepting the idea of a Palestinian state.'

Israel accepted the idea of a so-called Palestinian state in the past. In 2000,
Ehud Barak offered Arafat 91% of the West Bank, and all of the Gaza Strip, with some Palestinian control over Eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods as a capital of the new Palestinian state; in addition, all refugees could apply for compensation of property from an international fund to which Israel would contribute along with other countries.

Arafat said 'No' and went back home to start a violent intifada.

Israel has made concession after concession, but the representatives of the so-called Palestinians have said 'No'. Why? Very simple! The dispute with Isreal is not about land, it's a religious war. Islam wants to carry out its self-appointed prophet's command to wipe out the Jews.

You and your jihadist friends need to ditch violent jihad and learn to live in peace!

Clown!

It was deja vu watching Morsi ranting in Cairo about the Jews. I wish Fox commentatior had done a switch from Hitler to Morsi. Might have opened some minds.

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