Petraeus and Allen asked socialite to stop radio host planning to "deep fat fry" the Qur'an

Petraeus and Allen knew that if this happened, Muslims in Afghanistan and elsewhere would like start rioting and killing innocent people. And rather than stand up and say that it was madness to rampage and kill over a stunt by a man named Bubba the Love Sponge (or anyone else), they tried instead to stop the stunt from happening. Petraeus and Allen thereby reinforced (yet again) the principle that violent intimidation and terrorism work, signaling to Islamic supremacists and jihadists that if they were willing to kill people to shut Americans up, rather than stand up for the freedom of expression they would work to shut Americans up as well.

"Petraeus asked socialite to avert anti-Islam stunt," from AFP, November 17:

WASHINGTON — A Florida socialite at the heart of a scandal that brought down the CIA chief was once asked by him to stop a radio talk show host who was threatening to "deep fat fry" the Koran, US media reported early on Saturday.

That account, which comes from emails sent by socialite Jill Kelley, offers a new glimpse at her relationship with Petraeus and other senior military officials.

In March, a Florida radio talk show host named Todd Alan Clem but known as Bubba the Love Sponge said he was going to "deep fat fry" a copy of the Koran as a stunt, the reports said.

Gen. John Allen, commander of US and NATO troops in Afghanistan, and CIA director David Petraeus, both asked Kelley, who lives in Tampa, to try to intervene and stop the radio host by contacting the city's mayor, Bob Buckhorn.

"I have Petraeus and Allen both emailing me about getting this dealt with," Kelley wrote to the mayor, according to NBC News.

The generals saw the "Bubba" announcement as a potential threat to the safety of US troops stationed in Islamic countries.

Defacing the Koran is forbidden in Islam and in the past plans to burn the Muslim holy book by a controversial Christian pastor in Florida sparked deadly protests across the Muslim world....

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Bubba the Love Sponge said he was going to "deep fat fry" a copy of the Koran.
I'd like to think he'd fry it in Lard.

Full support of sharia...Well, Rasool Obama himself said it, 'There is no future for those who insult the
Prophet'...So what insults the 'Prophet' (Islam)? Just about anything...The Generals were just paying homage to Allah...

"Bubba the love sponge?" Ha, ha, ha...what a crazy country we live in.

Mahometans attack Catholics and Jews religiously but some dope fat-frying the Koran will lead to trouble?

Is this any way to run a war?

Clear lunacy. The truth hurts and the truth works. The truth works like the water Dorothy threw upon the Wicked Witch of the West. Religionists like the truth about as much as cockroaches like bright lights.

Give'em what they don't want: truth and ridicule.

Bubba the Love Sponge? I love it.

Given the First Ammendment, both Petraeus and Kelly knew that their public condemnations of Qur'an burnings are perfectly legal in our country. Indeed, they are sworn to the support and protection of our Constitution.

I'm sure they each also knows that the average "noble" Afghani is illiterate, has no idea what the U.S. Constitution even is or what it says, and that every slight to Big Al, Mo, and Islam can be easily manipulated by Islamic "scholars" into whatever rioting and violence fits the situation.

IMO, they were each willing to posture and grovel, in public, in order to minimize the rioting and the likely revenge attacks against ISAF forces that would surely follow such burnings.

Does anyone here really believe that either Patraeus or Kelly has subordinated the U.S. Constitution and the UCMJ to the shari'ah?

Really?

I personally believe that the safety of the personnel they were responsible for at that time was the impetus for their pleas; pleas that were meant to moderate the expected behavior of those noble, illiterate Afghanis.

Ooops. Should be:

both Petraeus and Kelly knows that Qur'an burnings are perfectly legal

"Defacing the Koran is forbidden in Islam and in the past plans to burn the Muslim holy book by a controversial Christian pastor in Florida sparked deadly protests across the Muslim world...."

That being the case, Westerners ought to be burning the Koran several times a day. Let the Moslems tear their countries, and each other, apart.

The stunt of "deep fat fry" a copy of the Quran is rather pointless and doesn't seem to make much senses. What there is a point to and does make sense is to understand that the early Christian Church in the first century was based on the Gospel of Christ. As for example as in First Corinthians 15:1-8. Later, in contrast what Muhammad gave the world was the Quran which is in reality another gospel this is a gospel that is in great contradiction to the Gospel that was given to the Christians by the Christian apostles. Furthermore, Muhammad even, at times, claimed to get this information he had spoken by an angel that eventually went into the composition of the Quran [another gospel]. Such a thing was forseen by Divine inspiration so a warning was given about such false messages as that of Muhammad. For the Christian apostles in the Bible warned "Though we,,or an angel from heaven, preach any other gosple unto you let him be accursed. As we said before , so i now say again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than ye have recived, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:8,9. [KJV]

She stuffed the Quran with bacon, burned it, gave up her name and full address.
Muslim reaction: NOTHING.
In the face of true courage, Muslims are pure cowards.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/04/one-great-american-woman.html

It is now clear that intermarriage and a lack of pork enzymes have induced a pandemic of imamotoxicity among the believers. The imamotoxins manifest themselves as little worms adorned with turbanettes that displace the cranial matter responsible for logic and decision-making with a ball of gas suspected of being some form of flatulence.


Joan D'Arc Barnhardt rules, and should any harm ever befall her in connection with islamics, she has nevertheless, bravely, well and successfully demonstrated the simple truth of Freedom of Speech, for what she did, while hurting absolutely no one, just a thing, a book, a tool, a contrivance. But the evil islamics did and do, is always typical gangland crime, with which they have been getting away, usually, for 1400 years. Isn't it about time to go after the criminals, not the innocents? Always?

The same problem of others of naive and illogical, factually deprived individuals in attacking the gun, still goes on in the minds of far too many in the West, the gun, knife and car are are merely tools, contrivances, but are used increasinly often as deadly weapons, by individuals, on occasion for ill purpose or carelessness. Even inside the most secure prisons, knives and shivs are found, constantly, and used. They cannot be prevented. Of course a very high percentage of mental disturbances are found therein also, compared to the general population.

The common problem is that of people who have no respect and regard for life, as islamics are taught from infancy, usually, especially inside madrassas, to have no respect for life. That islamic percentage, whatever it is, who may have some regard for life available, is always under pressure from the written trilogy texts of evil intents, when they get around to reading the final versions in their native languages (which often leads them to reject islam outright, when they finally learn what is really expected of them), and pressure from those others verbally and personally, whom they accept falsely, as so called leaders, and the constant inculcated fear.

The Western peoples typically have respect for life from infancy, but sometimes lose touch grievously, with that respect and regard, sometimes for outside environment reasons, and sometimes for medical derangements internally of the mind. That respect and regard for individual life is intimately related to the concept of Liberty and Freedom for All.

I posit that the mosks, the so called clerics, and the trilogy of texts, are deadlier than the sword, the gun, knife, and car. If one were to forbid anything at all in this world, it should be the mosk, the cleric, and the trilogy texts.

The mosks are the vehicle, the node, the focus, by which the moslem is kept in line, kept from assimilating, kept under the thumb of the gang. They are key, and should be forbidden most of all.

Responsibly exercising Freedom of Speech, telling the truths of evil unforgivable intolerable islam, must continue and accelerate, as it is the more practical peaceful manner of building resistance among the uneducated and more easily naive trusting types, while still available, before all-out war is required, and getting across to the islam members, the wisdom and benefits of turning their backs on islam.

To sum, Petraeus and Allen were trying to take the path of least resistance, the easiest path, maybe the laziest path, and an unprincipled path, out of a bad situation in which they found themselves, with bad ROE, and a less than realistic intent for the war of Iraq and Afghanistan. In so doing, they create unforgivable damage to our Constitutional protections and principles, in the minds of the less well educated, of which their are way too many, in Amerca and the West.

Other than that preceding commentary, Pok' Fat Rules, fry up some bacon and eggs, for America, for breakfast!

And if you're feelin' elegant, and sympatico for our true American, English, French, and Canadian brethren, then treat yourself and make it classic Eggs Benedict, my personal favorite. A true celebrations of freedom, the saucery of the French, the great muffin honoring the English, and the bacon named to honor the Canadians, and more, the inventiveness of the professionals of the Delmonico kitchen of NYC.

Basically, it's a great sauced up bacon and eggs, on toast, ha. Who say Pok' Fat doesn't Rule?

I'm a vegan, can I just have toast?

OK, duh swami, for you, with lotsa butter, from cows? But if you're one o those total vegans, use olive oil, and think of what you're missen, to honor all "the people of the book"! That'll make it great! Good one on ya, ds, had a good chuckle didn't see that one comin...

What a waste of good cooking oil. Couldn't they have just sliced up some potatoes instead?

As a Christian, I hold no candle for the Qur'an. I'm on record as saying that I think it is the word of man rather than of God, and a kind of pretentious collection of half-digested folklore rather than a serious borrowing from the Old and New Testaments; and revelatory of nothing save its author's abysmal ignorance. However, I'm not really into book burning.

The thing that is worse is that our affirmative action president told the world that the future must not belong to those who slander Muhammad (by repeating what they learned in the Qur'an and Hadith, BTW) so shortly after issuing an order that religious employers must provide contraceptive and abortion coverage to employees. And now the American sheeple have given this despiser of the First Amendment four more years to wreck their country.

"The Koran is a remarkably badly plagiarized, turgid, boring collection of nonsense."

Yes indeed David! But you're being too kind. I would add that the quran is wholly evil and was inspired from the pit of hell! There, I'm satisfied ...

The difference is the Bible is a "done list" and the Quran is a "to do list".

Kepha, I add the following to your reminder of the famous potus remark: "the future must not belong to those who slander Muhammad"

One additional aspect of this complete mess is that we have a potus, a regime and a military leadership in the form of Petraeus and Allen, who have appeared all too ready to allow or partake in disrespect of the history of America, the Constitution of the USA, those founding principles and protections of civility and Americans, perhaps for expediency against ridiculous ROE in the conduct of war, fighting against an enemy who has no rules, no ethics, no morals, and no uniform, whatsoever. The worst disrespect was shown to the most vital core principles of America, the First and Second Amendments. This disrespect must cease. Credit given for military accomplishments, but the Constitution and Liberty, and America, Love of Country, is what is all for, and about, full time 24/7/365.25, damn it.

It has been a disappointment for some time to have seen Petraeus not displaying public Patriotic understanding nor fervor of and for the First or Second Amendments, evidenced by his remarks and public criticism, and other matters, of the First Amendment right to burn a book, any book, and the right to make many other criticisms of islam, in any form of speech, including videos.

Islamics have been exercising freedom of speech and other freedoms for themselves against the kuffir, in writing, speech and brutality through the ages, plenty. And as usual with islam, no one else but they can have the right.

The worst aspect of this especially is a potus who is no leader, who understands neither the true history of America, nor the founding principles, nor the protections of the Constitution, totally regardless his claiming to be a Constitutional lawyer or professor or whatever (doesn’t matter anyway, he spent millions to have it all sealed from us all, because he is so afraid and embarrassed of the real truth about himself getting out).

His statements ("the future must not belong to those who slander Muhammad")and demonstrated values and behavior is at odds with all American history. Worse, he states in his own words, that if “the political winds shift in an ugly direction”, “he will stand with our enemy, the islamics (muslims)”. (Audacity of Hope, in case the reader is not by now familiar) And that last stated quote, is especially what we should fear, because we can see manifestations ongoing.

That all speaks volumes, as a mere beginning.

"The future must not belong to those who side with or support our enemy, the self-declared and behavior proven enemy of the West and America, that is islam, nor belong to those who do not support the American Constitution!"

That is a more America friendly and appropriate, more reflective of loving the Greatness of America quotation, to be spouting off, and beats the hell out of the potus of whatever land he thinks he is in, or potus of.

His remarks, behavior and lack of true pride in the Greatness of best of America's example to the world, have been undermining America, American heroes, America's respect, leadership, and power both in-country and throughout the globe.

It is long overdue, that all members of government, from the clerk to the potus, focus on, what is good for Amerca and Liberty first, maximizing value and minimizing cost, and especially needless waste, not looking out for each selfish individual person first. If it is good for all of America, each individual's Liberty, and the opportunities to prosper freely under American Freedom, then each government individual can take pride in himself, and the job being done.

See censorship in America today:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/abc-censors-conservative-comedian-again/

And read of the additional involved government leaders to be interviewed about the unclear mess of Benghazi, to be called to testify, in remarks by a true heroin Michelle Bachman, very high among many Patriotic Americans:

“National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, FBI Director Robert Mueller, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and their subordinates in their respective chains of command who carried out their directives all should testify before Congress so the American people get the answers they deserve,” Bachmann said.

at this spot: http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/bachmann-weve-got-more-benghazi-questions/

I've a feeling she may be even more informed than the hero Peter King, so we'll see.

These people, and many more connected and not connected to these people, like Robert Spencer, are the Patriotic Americans, the one's who give me pride yet in America, which is sold out, and laid low, by such a great quantity, of low education Americans, around half of America, that is.

Jill Kelley is not merely a "Florida socialite" -- she is a "Lebanese American" and her middle name is "Khawam".

Read Debbie Schlussel's column about Jill Khawam Kelly (and her sister):

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56333/jill-kelley-helped-muslim-nations-hezbollahs-lebanon-infiltrate-central-command-macdill-base-go-to-girl-for-muslim-parties-w-generals/

It seems evident that she has deep influence not only on Petraeus and Allen, but on one of the most important army bases in the US military. According to Schlussel:

Jill Khawam Kelley "...was well known in the Muslim Arab embassies of Washington for doing their bidding and hosting their parties at and near MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, where our nation’s top generals are based. It’s where Central Command–the U.S. Armed Forces’ leadership over wars and military personnel Middle East–is headquartered."

Only after reading Schlussel's article (and her more recent follow-up) does it become clear that Jill Kelley and her sister have been, in effect, "Mata Haris" for Jihad.

I want to know if he did fry a Quran and how did it taste. Some of the CIA think it is wrong to fry it but there's no law against it so what they can stuff it and shut their pie holes

Excellent heads-up, Lemon Lime, thanks so much for benefit of all of us here. Debbie minces no words, but I hadn't checked her site for a number of days, my bad. Thanks, man, she has some straight between the eyes hard hitting info, for all to digest, about Kelley, aka Khawam (the closet 'Christian' muslim? or what), and military leadership and the new current culture of the high end military, since our potus has been around, and all his henchmen. She covers some other stench in the heads of other Bureaus or Departments, very well, too.

This is getting thicker by the day, continuously. I wonder who knows most or all of this info or more, in our examining committees on these affairs? Go Bachman, King, Issa, et al, relentlessly. There is a fire behing this smoke, just how big and how wide is the fire. Find it, before it sinks us.

Yet more examples of the U.S. military failing to uphold, defend, and support the constitutional right to free speech, etc. Yet another violation of oathes of office.

Petraeus and Allen asked socialite to stop radio host planning to "deep fat fry" the Qur'an
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Grotesque misuse of power.

Sure, deep-frying a Qur'an is pretty cheesy—but every American citizen has the right under the First Amendment to do just that with their own property if they so choose. This is absolutely protected speech.

More:

Petraeus and Allen thereby reinforced (yet again) the principle that violent intimidation and terrorism work, signaling to Islamic supremacists and jihadists that if they were willing to kill people to shut Americans up, rather than stand up for the freedom of expression they would work to shut Americans up as well.
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*Exactly*. Anyone who believes that enforcing "blasphemy" laws will make us safer is deluding themselves.

See what I mean? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: ALL our top US military men are Four-Star Whores. Each and every one. As for those socialite girls, they are cracking me up. Both Paula Broadwell and Jill Kelley: each has a thing for generals, each gets around, each is a magnet for wacky generals. Then, all of a sudden, Paula Broadwell starts a big cyber-catfight with Jill Kelley, causing a big turmoil and seismic shifts in the US government, intelligence and military establishment. As i said here before, I immediatelly got a feeling that this shake-up might be for the better. And I have been proven absolutely right. Look how it is shaking out so far: the Whore Petraeus is down and out. And if the Obama administration hoped that it would cover-up their Benghazi travesty, quite the opposite is happening, just as I predicted here: the US Congess has summoned Petraeus to testify anyway, and the Obama administration is being exposed before the American people, the whole truth coming out. The Obama administration lying about the whole thing. The Obama administration denying the Amb. Stevens and other Americans in Benghazi any security assistance, loath to "offend" "their heroes",that is, the Arab Spring jihadis. The Obama administration blaming it all on the video and that little Coptic Christian Nakoula guy who made it. Hillary Clinton actually vowing to arrest and put him in prison. And then, the administation actually going through with this politically motivated prosecution of that little guy, the real reason being his exrecising his freedom of speech. Throwing this little Coptic Christian guy to the Muslim hyenas, like the Romans threw the original Christians to the lions. And more things just keep coming to light: Gen. John Allen sending the socialite girl Jill Kelley 20,000 to 30,000 flirtatious and sexually explicit e-mails! Man, I don't think any of us here have logged that many posts on this website. And as if Jill were not enough by herself, it turns out there are not just 1 but 2 of her: her twin sister Natalie, an exact identical copy of her, and not just physically: a prolific socialite like herself. We are now learning of the bizarre attempt to influence the judge in Natalie's child custody case, with both wacky generals, Petraeus and Allen, writing to him on her behalf. Whatever they are, those 3 socialite girls having the wild party run of CENTCOM are a huge improvement over the 3 Muslim Arabs from Hell who had enormous influence in that very CENTCOM right there in Tampa in the'80's and '90s. Sami al-Arian, the leader of the genocidal Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the US. Khalil Shikaki, a brother of Fathi Shikaki, the world leader of the Islamic Jihad. Ramadan Shallah who later succeded Fathi Shikaki after Israel did him in on Oct. 26, 1995. Hell Muslim Arabs! Hell Muslim Arabs! Hell Muslim Arabs! The 3 had practically taken over both the University of South Florida in Tampa AND CENTCOM, lecturing on Islam there and exercising enormous influence over all those students, academia and US Army generals! And the American people never woke up to that sinister situation, not even after Steven Emerson described those ominous goings-on in great detail in his book "American Jihad". Another man tried to wake up AT LEAST our US military to that: a veterean Israeli Zionist Yigal Carmon, a counterterrorism adviser to several Israeli Prime Ministers. He gave a lecture in the Pentagon to the top US military brass, warning them that the greatest national security threat to the US is posed by the infiltration of Islamic fundamentalists. Carmon later recalled: "After the lecture, they shook my hand, said thank-you, very polite. But I could see it in their eyes that they thought I was nuts". Later that day, Carmon was packing his bags in his Washington, DC hotel room, getting ready to fly back to Israel. The day was February 26, 1993. The TV was on. Suddenly, the regular programming was interrupted for an emergency news break: the first attack on the New York World Trade Center had just been carried out. As if to underscore what Carmon had just been trying to tell the US military! And yet, not even that woke the nation up. Instead of defending against the Muslim enemy, the US had actually joined the Muslims in the murderous jihad on Serb Christians. Just 2 years later, on September 11, 2001, the Muslims had rewarded the US with the biggest mass murder of American civilians in history, had actually hit the Pentagon where Carmon tried to talk basic sense to the American generals, and came close to decapitating the entire US government.
And yet, beyond any comprehention, even 11 years after 9/11, dhimmitude pervades the US government and military. This rotten state of the Union is intolerable. This is why I welcome this big shake-up of the establishment. Kudos to the 3 party girls! I'll take them over the 3 evil Muslim Arabs any time! Because the whole thing started as a sex scandal, it got the attention of the American people, who are awake and tuned in for a change. And they are getting a valuable cause-and-effect lesson. The cause: dhimmitude of the governments of France, England and the US who had militarily intervened on the side of the Arab Spring jihadis. The effect: the jihadis have taken over Libya, Egypt and Tunisia, have murdered 4 of the very same Americans who aided their jihad, and are now threatening a vast regional upheaval that will devastate economies and security of the Western democracies. And the Obama administration is now being called to account for its role in bringing about this disaster. Before the entire world. This time around, not a chance of any cover-up at all. Whatever the motivations of the 3 girls, whatever in their airheads made them to act the way they did, they ended up performing great public service. And let's not forget "the shirtless FBI guy" Fred Humphries, one of Jill's fateful entourage, who was apparently so eager to be her "knight in shining armor" and "save" her from (then anonimous) "threatening cyber-stalker" Paula Broadwell, that he went berserk on his own FBI bosses, accusing them of a "cover-up" of "the threatening e-mails", and then went rioting in the halls of the US Congress, blowing the whole thing wide open. Whatever their intentions, if any at all, the actions of those 3 girls and a guy had set off a chain reaction of events that wrecked havoc on our stagnant, rotten government, military and intelligence establishment. I am loving it. And I am having a hearty laugh every time I think of those 3 girls who, without intending to, had brought about this welcome storm through their flirtations, sex adventures, partying and the fateful catfight. Call it the Catfight of the Century. LOL.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, Normally Enraged, But Laughing Right Now.

The one thing I'm sure of, is that our rank and file military and I think some level of the officer core, is very loyal to America, and our Constitution. Those heroes we can be well proud of. Beyond that, developments from before the sexcapades, and accompanying developments of astounding details of security related, deadly serious matters, well beyond the mata haris, are just as crazy and as amateur as the potus described in the famous book, Amateur.

And I add, Jill Kelley aka Gilberte Khawam, is virtually swollen with hubris, not even wildly knowing and understanding her actual and real place in the military, and the community, having never had a security clearance, and now no base pass which she should have never issued in the first place, by any protocol. The situations are all so ridiculous. Based on what is coming out daily, and her behavior as shown by recent and current emails, and her voice recordings made public, the whole family should be thoroughly hard core vetted by appropriate security agencies. And she and her entire family are not the only ones, either.

The earlier heinous and seditious purging of the training of the full, or even any truth of islam, in all our security agencies training manuals, supervised by our enemies, the education of “what direction in which to pee” for our troops, among a retinue of other related travesties, and countless other details of the big sell out to our enemy, the reference to 'allahu akbar' nidal murders "workplace violence" terrorism, no different than those murders which now ensue against our troops in Afghanistan as "workplace violence" murders now, of our good men all of which could be called "work place violence" episodes , by the real crazies of the government, all these preceding examples are a monumental offense against America and reality.

It is all war, the same war carried to us as the acts of war of NYC WTC act of war of 9-11, Lockerbie, Khobar Towers, and countless other acts and attempted acts of war, including a hundred years ago, against Australia, to wit, (On January 1, 1915 two Broken Hill men, both former camel drivers, armed themselves with rifles, a homemade flag bearing Islamic insignia and a large supply of ammunition and launched a surprise attack on the Picnic Train about 3 kilometres outside Broken Hill) in the form of deadly so called terrorism, merely actual real act of war attacks of a declared war, which are simply real attacks of the warring islam gang, damn it.

Absolutely no difference between these acts and what Palestine has been doing to Israel, currently, and for many years. It is all acts of war declared by islam, waged since 1380 years ago. Never forget, 9-11, 12 of 1683 is when they got their behinds handed to them, and ran with their tales between their legs. It Is a major date to them, and not the only one, either. Nor ever forget they are like animals marking their imagined and ill gotten conquered territory with mosks, multipurpose as they are, and never for a good purpose. They delusionally think they own Jerusalem and Israel, because they once conquered a Holy Jewish Temple, upon which ruins they put a marker, the third most important mosk in islam, the al aqsa.

The lies, deferral and feinting of the truth of the very real war of islam against us, taking place since this potus and his henchmen got in, are monumentally against America's virtually total noble history since its founding, meaning that our country's founding's intended high purpose of style of government of by and for the people, in which we occasionally make a mistake, but always work to correct our mistakes to move towards the highest ideals for which we were founded. This country has been largely a gigantic hero to the world, and many in the Western world do sing and have sung its praises.

Nice commentary, Ruslan, many nice truths there.

well said enraged, I also want to add that these two Lebanese ladies may well be working for muslim countries to infiltrate our top brass. all for jihad all for allah right? why not? we have Mr Zogby a Lebanese christian who never misses an oppertunity to carry water for his muslim masters.

As for the reason why Obama ordered the CIA to stand down is that he simply did not want to see any muslim "protestors" killed by our guys.
The last thing he wanted was to have the muslim world erupt in anti American protests where his effigy is burned in protest. No, not in the final moments of his re-election. He did not want his re-election to be derailed by such a scenerio. He did not want Romanay to point out his foreign policy failure, not when he has already gave the narrative to the world that Al qaeda was defeated and on the run and the "Arab spring" was his great success.

Folks should read the Koran and not deface it....

Frankly, I think Jill Kelley and Paula Broadwell together gave Petraeus a nice round of a debilitating mental syphilis. It explains his dhimmi behavior. Petraeus is nothing but a bureaucrat in uniform. Real generals don’t need college degrees. So, he was a West Point graduate? So what? All the service academies have been turned into doppelgangers of our civilian universities. Can you imagine someone like George Patton allowing himself to become the subject of a cat fight that is then referred to the FBI? But then, the Petraeus affair revelations were intended to distract everyone from Obama's treason, and it seems everyone's obliging Obama by paying attention to it, instead of his impeachable offense of refusing to allow military intervention in Benghazi. But then, again, why were we in Benghazi in the first place? That question gets lost in the murk of Obama's policies.

Was he planning to deep fry it in lard? That is a obvious 'No, no!!

They should read it first, then deface it...

PRCS has brought up (if I read him correctly) a willfully ignored and nuanced area here about Petraeus as the object of unjustified sneering scorn so eagerly grasped at by people who probably never will ever have his appalling immediate responsibilities towards human lives under their close command, or as "collateral damage", as the immediate risks of political/religious rabid violence rearing up instantly among an emotional, immature, and volatile illiterate population...specifically these terrorizing Muslims in that cesspool over there.

Now, think about that.

There are also here, right now in our America, emotional, immature, volatile, illiterate people who will try to do stupid things which can set off riots against their fellow Americans...like burning a significant book in animal fat. Sounds pretty cute, right? Amusing?

So, surprise....curb that possible rioting whenever that possibility rears up threateningly....as Petraeus apparently had tried to do in that situation.

That Dear Readers, is not being subservient to "sharia" or anything sniffing of Muzzli-philia.

General/Mister Petraeus has not "betrayed" us. Get that cute little turn of phrase out of your mindset.

General/Mister Petraeus has been uncharacteristicly dumb in his relationship with some woman. Who has not? He should know better, right? We, all of us, should've known better than to permit ourselves be used by an ambitious social climbing arriviste, right?

What we perpetually unwashed outsiders will never know, infuriatingly, is what happened during that seven hour period that drone was circling overhead while transmitting data to the White House, and while Obama's Personal Representative, in protocol-speak, was being sodomized and murdered in Muslim Libya by Muslims.....and Obama was doing....what?...exactly?

Hence, direct your scorn and contempt not towards General/Mister Petraeus, but directly against our chameleon Obama who apparently did absolutely nothing to save the lives of his Personal Representative and the other C.I.A. staffers at our facility in Benghazi...not anyone in Tampa Florida.... who acted upon human nature rather than bureaucratic BS and sacrificed their lives for what they thought was right.

Concentrate on Benghazi....Benghazi....Benghazi....don't be misled by crass sex, as lurid as that may appear.

....and, here's my own remembered "oops"...I omitted this additional comment on this statement:

"Petraeus and Allen thereby reinforced (yet again) the principle that violent intimidation and terrorism work, signaling to Islamic supremacists and jihadists that if they were willing to kill people to shut Americans up, rather than stand up for the freedom of expression they would work to shut Americans up as well. "

I vehemently disagree with this leaping "thought". We're dealing with Muslim animals, Dear Readers, not thinking, rational Westerners. We simply cannot apply our customary thought processes towards Muslims. Try talking out a problem with that pig wallowing in his trough. All you'll get is snorts.

Very good post, Enraged.

Could I just suggest that you should break up your posts into paragraphs ? It would make them easier to read.

"Jill Kelley aka Gilberte Khawam, is virtually swollen with hubris, not even wildly knowing and understanding her actual and real place in the military..."

How do you know this? The Schlussel articles I linked above indicate that Jill Khawam knows quite well what she is doing -- she is engaging in Mata Hari-type espionage against America; indeed, far more elaborately and effectively than the real Mata Hari.

So, to "Charles Griffith" above, this isn't merely "some woman" and Petraeus was not there being merely "dumb" with her in an equivalencist way, as though his faux pas was that of Every Man who cheats. No, he (and apparently numerous other of our military, intelligence and political intelligentsia) got in bed with her, literally and figuratively, and since she is essentially more dangerous than a Mata Hari-esque spy, this makes Petraeus colossally stupid, or a traitor. There is no third explanation.

And he's not stupid.

Bubba The Love Sponge???!!!
All I can say is. Only in America LOL

So it's still okay to burn the flag, bible, etc, but not the Koran?

It shows how the Left are inevitable betrayers of whatever virtues they claim to uphold. They don and discard them like snakeskins.

Charlie Griffith wrote:

There are also here, right now in our America, emotional, immature, volatile, illiterate people who will try to do stupid things which can set off riots against their fellow Americans...like burning a significant book in animal fat. Sounds pretty cute, right? Amusing?
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I have never believed that burning Qur'ans is the most effective form of criticism of the horror of Islam. But it *is* a criticism, and a perfectly legal one.

With respect, the idea that we must curtail our own freedom of speech to accommodate the barbarians is grotesque.

More:

So, surprise....curb that possible rioting whenever that possibility rears up threateningly....as Petraeus apparently had tried to do in that situation.
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*Anywhere*? Charlie, do you really believe that Qur'an burnings—or, in this case, deep fat fryings—are the *only* criticism of Islam that will bring out the homicidal Muslim mobs?

If you do, you must have missed the riots over the "Innocence of Muslims" film trailer, the riots over the Danish MoToons, the riots over Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses", and even the riots over the destruction of a Qur'an by a developmentally-disabled Christian girl—even though this last was *trumped up by the local Imam*.

In other words, any sort of criticism of Islam is enough to give an excuse to homicidal Muslims—and if any excuse is lacking, they'll just make one up.

If you believe we will be safe if only the Bubba the Love Sponge's of the West are kept away from the deep-fat fryer, then you have another thing coming...

More:

That Dear Readers, is not being subservient to "sharia" or anything sniffing of Muzzli-philia.
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Really? And yet, under Shari'ah, one is prevented from "desecrating" a Qur'an, and those are *exactly* the strictures that you—and people like General Petraeus would impose on free American citizens.

That may not be his intent, but that is the result.

And don't you realize that the mere presence of Infidels in a part of Dar-al-Islam like Afghanistan is excuse enough for Muslims to murder us?

More:

"Petraeus and Allen thereby reinforced (yet again) the principle that violent intimidation and terrorism work, signaling to Islamic supremacists and jihadists that if they were willing to kill people to shut Americans up, rather than stand up for the freedom of expression they would work to shut Americans up as well. "

I vehemently disagree with this leaping "thought". We're dealing with Muslim animals, Dear Readers, not thinking, rational Westerners.
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That fact that pious Muslims are violent thugs changes this not one whit—in fact, it makes it worse.

That means that "animals" are dictating what we can say and do, and demand that we show their violent irrationality "respect". *Ugh*.

Again, with respect, realize that the end result of your line of reasoning would shut down *all* criticism and even questioning of Islam by all of us. And one of the first things it would shut down would be Jihad Watch.

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