Petraeus testifies that CIA reported al-Qaeda involvement in Benghazi attack, but that line was removed

I guess we must conclude that POTUS, the imbecile John Brennan, and most dangerously the counter-intel chief at CIA (an actual convert to Islam) are all Fellow Travellers with violent Jihadists. At Benghazi, they seem to actually be trying to protect the killers of our people after the fact.

... If Obama were a Republican, Congress would be making a serious investigation of this coverup and all his lies to cover his support for jihadists in Libya. ... Robert

Robert,

You understate.

If Obama were a Republican, the Dems would be launching a Watergate style investigation, and collaterally be drafting articles of impeachment. That obama skated through all this in the midst of an election speaks worlds to the power of the bully pulpit, and the PURE IDIOCY of the current American electorate.

I often see Europe and the European eagerness to please Islam being roughly treated on the comments section of this blog. I can partly agree with this ...aw heck, I can largely agree with this.
But when I again look at how Islam in general and the Brotherhood in particular have managed to gain influence within the administration and the security services of the United States ...I scoff at the rough treatment given Europe.

"Former CIA Director David Petraeus testified in a closed-door hearing Friday morning that his agency determined immediately after the Sept. 11 Libya attack that "Al Qaeda involvement" was suspected -- but the line was taken out in the final version circulated to administration officials, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed." -- headline

The line was taken out? ...well there's your smoking gun!

Of course this all leads back to obama. What a lying snake.

(video, 4:55 Min) Frm. Mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani "... this is a cover-up!"

http://schnellmann.org/obama-the-liar.html

The truth is going to bite Obama and Hilli real hard. This is not the only lie they told us. what about work related violence as they put it related to Nidal?

QUOTING ROBERT SPENCER:

"If Obama were a Republican, Congress would be making a serious investigation of this coverup and all his lies to cover his support for jihadists in Libya. Instead, the truth dribbles out here and there, with ample time given for the administration to formulate new...talking points."

Robert.....What is wrong with you?

This is twice in two days that you jump to conclusions that are not supported by evidence, but which could easily appear to resonate with an irrational, emotional attachment to, rather than rational agreement with the premises you have brought forward in the past.

In fact, your conviction and projection that Obama is lying about this issue, is totally unsupported by any evidence available at this time.

What I'm beginning to see is a person (Robert Spencer) who is continuing to spiral down into the mud pit of emotional sensationalism, rather than intellectual persuasion.

What happened to that man that I so respected when he appeared in the film "Islam - What the West Needs to Know"?

The lies start at the top...find the man at the top and you will find the liar...

Responding to dug Swami's question as to whether or not I am someone special...

In fact, I am a very ordinary citizen. I am also a person who is willing to question anyone, at any time when I feel it necessary.

Robert Spencer captivated my attention several years ago when I saw his brilliant and comprehensive description of the Islamic way of life in the movie I mentioned in my original post. My personal perspective was forever changed by that experience and I’ve followed his activities on and off ever since that time.

That being said, I am in NO WAY, a Robert Spencer acolyte who will follow wherever he goes, forever abdicating my judgment for his.

When I see a person who has proved his status as an intellectual dedicated to a dispassionate, intellectual, and rational projection of ideas based on documented facts, waver in his or her path and begin to exhibit tactics that are idiosyncratic, emotional, and fantastic, rather than ordinarily rational, I find it necessary to inform that person that they are risking my trust.

If a person who has established my trust based on dispassionate and objective truths, resorts to speculation and exploitation of emotional, personal attachments, then I begin to question whether or not ANYTHING that person has stated in the past is true.

Obama said that when his National Security people (unnamed) informed him of the attack, he told them to do all they could to protect American lives...So what was his reaction when he found out they didn't make any attempt to do that? His orders (if he actually gave such an order) was disobeyed, and the Americans were killed...He should have been loudly pzzed off...He should have demanded to know from his people exactly who ignored or changed his orders...Instead he goes on a fund raiser...Seemingly not the least upset that his orders were ignored or changed...This whole episode does not pass the smell test...Don't blame me. I didn't vote for him...

Petraeus testifies that CIA reported al-Qaeda involvement in Benghazi attack, but that line was removed
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More whitewashing. This is all deeply disturbing—but few are paying much attention to this issue now, as they are distracted by the tawdry scandal.

More:

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who spoke to reporters after Petraeus testified before the House Intelligence Committee, indicated he and other lawmakers still have plenty of questions about the aftermath of the attack.
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Glad to see that Congressman Peter King is still on the job. His understanding of Jihad and its threat is not perfect, but it is *much* better than that of most lawmakers.

"If Obama were a Republican, Congress would be making a serious investigation of this coverup and all his lies to cover his support for jihadists in Libya. Instead, the truth dribbles out here and there, with ample time given for the administration to formulate new...talking points."

So right, Robert, this is so obvious; and those that disagree with your statement aren't paying attention, or they suffer from willful ignorance/blindness. Probably both.

Yes Champ and Traeh, I don't think those new nicknames are just some random computer accident.

@LemonLIme: Actually you can call me Tyrehl. I don’t know why the system here won’t allow me to post using my Facebook account, so the next best thing is to use my Google identity. Why that creates a soup of characters to identify me I have no idea, nor do I have any power over that.

@Robert Spencer I can imagine that after having spent so much time under attack by people who would ignore your scholarship and assign to you, motives that you do not hold, that it would be easy for you to adopt the posture that all critical comments are of the same sort. When one harvests limes in the field all day, it can become difficult to notice the importance of anything other than green objects when one returns home. You’ve made that mistake with me, and I’ll see if I can help you see the broader spectrum.

First, while for you, the movie I referenced happened almost ten years ago, for me, it was the first thing that brought me to your attention., and that was only late this past summer. It was also the catalyst for me to divert some time away from other life duties to look more closely at what Islam is, since I’ve only had a casual exposure to it. Because of that, as with many other people, I’d assumed wrongly up until now that the Koran was the beginning and end of Islam. You and the others in the film helped open my eyes to that error. I also began to realize that since I am closer to the end of my life, than I am to the beginning, that it would be impractical to believe that I will have the time available to explore the depths of the primary texts. As such I need to place my trust in those who have spent the necessary time doing the heavy lifting and who can describe it in a manner that will allow me begin to understand its nature, rather than personally examine each and every specific detail.

In short, I don’t think it is necessary for one to personally study every page of the Bible to have a Christ Consciousness, nor is it required to sit Zazen for an entire lifetime to see the Buddha nature. Even so, many people get trapped in each of these considerations and become blinded to the forest by the trees.

As for me, I’ve been looking at a wide variety of sources over the past couple months and only within the past few days, have visited your blog with any regularity. I’ve spent far more time watching/listening to video presentations on this subject, since I find that much more can be learned about a person’s perspective when the words he or she projects are accompanied by body language and verbal inflection.

To sum up, I’m a reasonably well educated person, and am not so undisciplined that I, personally, would discount your scholarship in Islam because of a few ill-chosen pronouncements on you blog. However it should not to be ignored that if an intelligent person enters this blog space from a different perspective, without the advantage of having witnessed your scholarship first, and sees the lazy and sensational types of statements such as the two I’ve pointed out in the past two days, you risk ever having that person listen to anything you have to say or looking deeper into what I believe to be the more important ideas at the foundation of your purpose.

Respectfully,

Tyrehl

@ Tyrehl

A question for you: Who do you think we JW posters who are long in the tooth are going to listen to? Someone like you who waltzes in out of the blue with a bee in his bonnet, or the 'rightly guided' Robert Spencer who has wiped the floor with apologists for Islam on several occasions in one-on-one televised arguments?

You're a self-aggrandising clown!

Now, pi** off!

The sheeple on this blog will believe anything the Fox will conjure up.

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I also have long been an appreciative admirer of all Robert Spencer has done to expose the evil nature of Islam. However, do not let us imagine him to be al-insan al-kamil and uswa hasana. None of us are infallible and like https:// I have sometimes winced a little when Robert occasionally has appeared to be making a mountain out of an Islamic mole hill.

Robert Spencer has done stirling work in exposing Islam. All credit and honour to him, but please, we must not acredit to him the same status Muslims foolishly give to Muhammad and assume he is beyond question and reproach.

For example, I was somewhat worried and a little taken-aback by the story about the Muslim judge and alimony payments. It appeared to be off topic and very short of firm informantion, as some commentators pointed out.

We are none of us infallible and beyond questioning. Keep up the good work Robert and thank you for all you have done.

"so the next best thing is to use my Google identity. Why that creates a soup of characters to identify me I have no idea, nor do I have any power over that."

If a commenter finds themself forced to sign in with Google, then to avoid those long-string nicknames, create a Google account, for which you will be asked to create a user name. That user name will then appear here when you sign in. That way, you can avoid these long technically futuristic names that sound like the generator for a starship, and pick a more user friendly name (one that's relatively easy for a person can type when addressing you, for example -- like "Slave of Allah" would do).

Petraeus lies.

Oabama lies.

Rice lies.

Hillary lies.

Paneta lies.

The media covers for their lies with touching naivete about not knowing what to investigate or how or even if it is necessary.

But the Benghazi-gate cover up and lies will implode this Administration at surely Watergate did Nixon's.

We are witnessing Nixon 2.0.