Pro-jihad Canadian Leftist and Muslim protesters get aggressive with Sun News team

Paige T. MacPherson of Sun News Network went to an anti-Israel, pro-Hamas protest in Toronto. Ezra Levant aired her report. Note the ignorance, self-righteousness, open hypocrisy, and increasingly intimidating behavior on the part of the pro-Hamas protesters. (Thanks to Blazing Cat Fur.)

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@1:35 The woman in the black cap stumbles over "kind of like a little person against a big person" reaching for but struggling with the "David and Goliath" simile, perhaps because her brain is catching up with her mouth and she's realized that David was the future king of Israel and Goliath was a Philistine.

From the UK I don't have a problem running video on JW or BCF. ? browser related. I'm still using IE8.

@2:24 Bespectacled long haired man with Khefiyya "[Israel] has been blocking staples like chocolate....." ROTFL.

That's them, that's who they are...Allah likes them a lot...
It's obvious that all the 'Palestinians' problems come from the bully Israel...I'm amazed Allah doesn't directly intervene...When Mahound was alive Allah didn't tolerate that kind of behavior out of Jews...He struck terror into their hearts, and destroyed their villages by night and by day...He declared Jews the supreme enemy of Mahoundians and turned some Jews into apes and pigs as examples...Where is Allah when the 'Palestinians' need him? Did he jump ship? Has he deserted them in their hour of need...
Every Mahoundian needs to know...If they have been abandoned, there is no point worshipping Allah any longer...

@1:38 These rockets have actually no fire power?
Warhead weight:
Qassam 1: 5kg; Qassam 2: 10kg; Qassam 3: 20kg; Qassam 4:~10Kg
Grad: ~ 20 kg
Fajr-3: 45 kg
Fajr-5: 90 kg
Sounds like firecrackers to me.

By the way, is that Ok for Israel to fire these "firecrackers" back? They are "harmless" after all.

Didn't those harmless rockets just kill three people? The only reason most of them are harmless is because the rocketeer is a lousy shot, but you do have to give them an E for effort and a P for persistence...Palestinian Rocketeer is a risky job that doesn't pay much, but there is some satisfaction in getting your rockets off...It's an activity Allah approves of...

Canada is much more tolerant of Muslim terrorists than the USA is. That's why the Canadian-US border must be secure.

Again, what benefit accrues from blaming the "left"? The right, meaning the GOP, is the stalking ground of those Americans proclaiming a special relationship with an invisible friend from the spirit world. Is it a serious suggestion that those who cannot distinguish reality from make-believe are in a superior position to defend western pluralism?

those Americans proclaiming a special relationship with an invisible friend from the spirit world.

You don't have one of those spirits? I can lend you one of mine...

If a persons is knowledgeable of a cause they are supporting or demonstrating about then they should be proudly capable of defending their positions. And they should not shy away from giving their opinions just because a particular media outlet has different sympathies.

Clearly those protesting here reflected not only a very slanted view of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict but also an overwhelming dhimmified ignorance of the problem.

As a fellow atheist, I must point out how illogical your assumption is, jake-a-runi.

It is entirely possible for an individual to ignore facts and logic and gain comfort and emotional well-being from their religion, while still being able to put that to the side and focus on facts, logic, and critical thinking on other issues. Most all of Western Civilization's technical achievements have required that ability. If man weren't able to do so, you wouldn't be reading this.

On the other hand, when one is incapable of doing so, you see what happens in Islamic countries and their history. It truly must be their religion at fault. Everything modern and advanced beyond the iron age is recent and completely dependent on the developments of others, as they have achieved nothing. Instead, they have wallowed in the Death Cult of the Moon God.

The ignorant leftist who are dupes for the Islamic supremacists in the video are no better.

Using Israel and its discordant relations with its neighbors as an illustration of Islam’s designs upon civilization is a depiction which is unacceptably limited, like the field of vision afforded by cheap binoculars.

First, the scope is infinitely more vast than that small strip of land that constitutes the Jewish state (All the world belongs to Allah and the Believers!), and

Israel simply does not appear to have clean hands. Those who question this can peruse Steven Spielberg’s Munich, specifically the depiction by the Moussad handler regarding the actions required to found the sovereign state. An ardent curiosity will lead to discomforting findings.

I support Israel and I would like CNN to rebroadcast the recorded celebration by the Palestinian Arabs on the evening of September 11th, 2001. (This apparently was shown exactly once and was pulled as offensive; I would like every American to see it and be offended.)

But I appreciate the truth like bungee jumpers appreciate rubber, and establishing a sovereign state contrary to the wishes of the local inhabitants required moral compromises. These compromises should not be allowed to diminish the appreciation of the stakes involved in the West’s struggle to prevent itself from being swallowed by the tsunami of violent ignorance that is Islam.

Dear Jihad Watchers:

I didn't realize this but I saw the beginning of the phenomena known as "Pallywood" back in the '80s.

The muslims in the West Bank and Gaza have long tried to portray themselves as impoverished victims of Israeli and Western oppression.

This spew was even going on back in the 1980s. During that time I was having to interact with “Christian ministers” who were actually liberation theology advocates (remember that movement). One in particular was a woman whose daughter spent large amounts of time as an “activist” in Israel and the “occupied” West Bank. Think of her as an ’80s version of Rachel Cory. The mother in private admitted she held no Christian beliefs whatsoever, but liked the privelige and standing the title of “minister” gave her. The daughter was more of a vicious anti Semite than her mother was, which was sayin a lot if you knew these psycho-bitches.

I am an American Indian and because of that, these women kept trying to get me over to their pro-PLO & more causes. I guess with them being leftist radicals… if they were to get an “American Indian” on “their side” it was somehow a gold star in their communist leaning credenitals “report card.” I heard the spew about West Bank (WB) being a prison and/or concentration camp, a “South African homeland or bantustan” and when they encountered me… it was “just like a reservation.”

First neither of these women had ever been to a reservation. So, I was “courted” by these women in the sense of getting me to their side. This was the days before personal cell phones could take video feeds which could be posted on the net and be seen by thousands in mere hourse. Instead I remember looking at the daughter’s scrapbooks and photo albums. More like a summer camp or vacation than a rez or any of the other type of “camp.”

I saw our ’80s Rachel Cory in snapshots in business areas, in arab shops, market places, recreational areas, private home, etc. The “poor muslims” who would be in the pics with her were well groomed, fashionable and well fed. I especially liked the pics of arab families in their living rooms filled with every 80s tech gadget available at the time and of the arab kids in THEIR SWIMMING POOLS.

These weren’t PLO leadership elites living off of donations from liberal European governments. These people were “average” residents of the West Bank. Many lived comfortable lifestyles while not working at all- now these WERE courtesy of European AND other Western Allied nations opening their wallets, as well as “we-feel-guilty” churches, humanitarian aid groups and of course the ISRAELI TAXPAYER and the SALARIES of their Israeli-Arab relatives who would send paychecks and Israeli products, clothing, food, etc to the West Bank.

There was no “aparthied wall” as the current defense barrier is called in existence back in the ’80s. West Bank residents would travel across the border into Israel to work, sell or buy, practice professions, go to school, go shopping, attend recreational facilities (museums, zoos, cinemas, etc).

Some of the pics were of ’80s Rachel withthe children of her WB host families (she lived with several arab families while in WB over time). She had to escort the arab children into BIG BAD ISRAEL and their she was… at restaurants, parks, arcades, to (what I guess was) the Jerusalem Biblical Zoo. The “horror” these children had to experience? They had to go past checkpoints with Israeli soldiers where GASP! The little arab darlings saw BIG BAD JEWS WITH GUNS! Ooooohhhh Nooooo!

I was pressured by a lot of these pro-PLO types to join the oppressed arab’s “plight” because… one) WB arabs live worse off than American Indians on reservations… and two) Palestinian arabs are “indigenous” to that part of the middle-east and as an America Indian, I should support them!

Well, I never joined their cause or organizations- which were sucking money out of deluded do-gooders. I especially wasn’t popular with the pro-PLO crowd when I explained to them and much to their shock that Palestinians ARE NOT AN INDIGENOUS PEOPLE and that many other American Indians I know were very supportive of the Israeli nation’s right to exist. The look of shock on their faces when I said those things was hilarious.

Also, I am learning much on the anti-Islamist movement sites. One term I’m learning is “Pallywood” which describes fake video shoots and internet uploads which portrays muslims as “victims to Jewish/Israel violence.”

Well, I guess I must have seen “Pallywood” in its embryo stage years ago back in the ’80s. Refer to ’80s Rachel and her numerous photo albums where pics of children with rather comfortable lives were seen. Well, at “mid-east awareness” events she would have poster board of ragamuffin looking kids sitting in dusty roadsides are next to garbage cans out as a display. She would also at presentations show SLIDE SHOWS depicting the same kids looking rather dejected.

Folks, I saw pictures that were apparently taken in or around the same time as the display or slide pics. The garbage cans were in front of nice homes or apartment houses where the children lived…. the kids WERE PUT IN RAGS specifically for those pictures… ie they were if anything”play clothes” complete with all the wear, tear, dirt, etc- that comes with it. Those children dressed well and expensively. Finally, I saw pics that went a few yards to the left or right or behind the pics of “poor arab child sits in dusty road” that had been on the display poster. The surroundings of those children was not some over crowded refugee camp. They were in nice neighborhoods, one was actually in a PARK FILLED WITH FLOWERS AND GREENERY. However, if you TAKE ANYONE and dress them down and place them on a dusty hot roadside…. you to would be oblivious that a short distance away were water fountains, flower beds and Jews and Arabs intermingling on park benches in the backdrop.

Hey, I saw the origins of “Pallywood” and didn’t even know it!

For people supporting Palestswine causes… the arab children DO NOT SUFFER BECAUSE OF ISRAEL, in fact if they have any stability, hot meals, shelter, education or happy childhoods IT IS BECAUSE OF ISRAELI GENEROSITY.

Standing 100% with Israel in this and any current or future conflict with Islamic cult murderers.

It is disappointing to see that their are Canadians that will align themselves with the murderous Islamic cult.

Israel doesn't have clean hands? Huh-uh. What nation does? Did Britain have clean hands during WWII? Did the young American nation rebelling against Britian during the Revolutionary War have clean hands?

Look, no nation is lily pure and expecting such is highly unrealistic. What is important is realizing the difference between civilized nations which have faults and uncivilized polities which have gigantic faults. Try starting from this premise and you will engage in far less error of thought, far less moral equivalency thinking, than you have exhibited so far on this thread.

You're a clown!

Islam's hands are drenched in blood! 250 million victims murdered in the name of Islam over the last 1,400 years. How's that for guilt!

And don't tell me about the Inquisition. All told, a few hundred died. Peanuts compared to the death cult of Islam that is trying to commit genocide against the Jews. Yes, in the 21st Century, there is a so-called religion that wants to wipe out every man, woman and child that is of one specific race, the Jews.

You're a pathetic clown!

If the leftists in the video were U.S. citizens, they would have voted with wild enthusiasm for Barack Obama - a grim thought to be sure.

Their support for the murderous Hamas is simply appalling. Not only do they side with vicious killers, but they are stupid as well. In things large and small, they reveal this. Note the goat-bearded, longhaired moron complete with retro mod glasses and de rigueur kaffiyeh who says at 2:30,

“…Israel has been blocking essential medicines from entering Palestine…It [Israel] has been blocking staples like chocolates…”

Since when is chocolate a staple in the same category as corn, wheat, rice, beans, or soy? Has any NGO reported mass starvation in Gaza? No doubt, this would-be Minister for Nutrition expects that his opinions and his thoughts, such as they are, should hold sway generally; but his entire answer to Paige MacPherson’s question suggests congenital idiocy, a worthless education, or both.

Chocolate is a staple, and according to another of the protesters, "Israel should be gone." Well that's brilliant.

Andy Warhol really did see the future and was on to something when he said, “I only eat candy.”

Don't "anti-Israel protesters" believe in personal hygiene and grooming standards?

I have to take issue with your claim that Canada is "easy" on islamic terrorists. We actually haven't had anywhere near as many incidents as the USA has had.....and we've been much tougher on "honour" murderers".

Does anyone remember the war in Kosovo? Then, the progressives--most of them cranky old Trots and their fellow travelers--opposed NATO's intervention in Kosovo, on the grounds that NATO was supposedly aiding and abetting 'Islamic Fundamentalists,' at the expense of a Socialist bastion like Serbia. Of course, all of THAT was thrown into the Memory Hole, and now these same progressives are supporting an avowedly Islamist insurgency, against a nominally secular state (Israel). The only commonality is that both the Albanian Kosovars and Israel enjoyed U.S. support, making them progressive pariahs.

Conservatives aren't any better. Conservative god Ronald 'Alzheimer' Reagan actively supported an Islamist insurgency (Mujahedin) in Afghanistan, and conservative media (e.g., National Review) wrote glowing, sloppily effusive coverage of the Mujahedin 'freedom fighters.' Nevermind the misogyny, pederasty, and opium-trafficking of these Qur'an-thumpers. And Bushes I-II defended Salafist Kuwait and Saudi Arabia against Iraq, and blew hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of U.S. lives on deposing a secular regime in Iraq, so that Islamist groups could move into the vacuum. And, where money is involved, conservatives suddenly turn philo-Islamic, as when Mark Steyn, Rush Limbaugh, and others supported the Dubai World Ports deal.

Unlike Kosovo, which is on Western Europe's doorstep, Israel has zero geopolitical relevance to the West. Most of the Christian population emptied out, long ago--the victims of a pincher movement between Jews and Muslims. Israel/Palestine has virtually no natural resources, and economies largely propped up with foreign aid and some token investment (e.g., that Intel plant that the Haredis hate).

And, notwithstanding weird conspiracy theories about President Obama's religion, no U.S. politician will commit to offering anything more than moral support to Israel. Israel can NOT expect military aid from the U.S., especially as that country is swimming in red ink, and has just ended a bloody and costly war in Iraq. Nor, with the Western world's economies in the creaky state they are, will the U.S., or any other country risk another oil embargo. Even the very pro-Israel Harper government has issued very muted criticism of the conflict, calling on 'both sides' to de-escalate. Israel is on its own, here, and much of the blame can be laid on Binyamin Netanyahu ham-fisted handling of everything from the settlement issue, to the U.S. election.

Your reference to Ronald 'Alzheimer Reagan reveals you as the jerk that you are. Reagan was a great President and a moral genius. You, by contrast, are a total low-life with ideas that are pedestrian and wrong. Get lost. You convince no one of sense and knowledge who posts here at JW. Be gone, troll.

Ronald Reagan’s Alzheimer didn’t make him forget who is who on the world stage. His Alzheimer never confused him about the truth of the Evil of the Soviet Empire and he played masterly available to him cards and brought down the beast. Supporting Afghan resistance against the Communist invader that brought about its defeat was one of the cards. For the countless millions of people of the East Europe he is their liberator from the communist tyranny.
His Alzheimer has no power over the memory of the people he liberated.

Whereas a little hateful, incapable maggot like yourself is remembered only as long as the revulsion with your lies is still fresh.

The problem with our alliance with the mujahideen in the 80s is not that we made that alliance; it's that we didn't realize, keep in mind, and prepare for the fact that the mujahideen -- though at that time seemingly so retrograde and primitive they seemed geopolitically harmless -- were fanatical followers of a far more dangerous and virulently anti-Western and anti-Everything-Good ideology than were the Communists who, in that delimited window of time, were the worse threat.

I.e., after arming the mujahideen to fight Soviets, we should have taken all their weapons away, by force, and strategically bombed them to make sure we broke their legs, so to speak.

Hi, thomas h. Hope you're doing well. Just for the record, Ronald Reagan's doctors swore upon their professional honor that the first signs they ever detected of Reagan's Alzheimer's was in September of 1993, more than four and a half years after Reagan left the Presidency. Those asserting that Reagan had Alzheimer's while President, like the maggot you addressed, are non-qualified and irresponsible. Again, hope you are doing well.

"Reagan was a great President and a moral genius."

Ronnie armed the Mujahedin--boy-raping misogynists, who spawned the Taliban. He granted asylum to the first torrent of Mexican illegals. His administration blew hundreds of billions on dead-end porkbarrel projects, like NASP and SDI. And this started America on the road to insolvency, with a huge increase in the national debt. Why conservatives idolize this washed-up actor is beyond me.

Again, there was a direct line from the Reaganite support of the Mujahedin, and the slaughter of 9/11. Secular Afghans warned the U.S. about the danger of supporting an Islamist insurgency that raped little boys, treated women like dirt, and exported smack by the tonne. Nevermind the puke-worthy propaganda about Mujahedin 'freedom fighters,' in the conservative media. And the Reagan Administration turned Waziristan into Salafi Islam's armoury. This was pure insanity, and everyone knew where this was headed. And the Bush Administration lied about a WMD threat in Iraq, in order to justify the overthrow of a secular regime, at the cost of over 4,000 dead U.S. troops and over $3 TRILLION.

"Blocking medicines and essential...." That's a fucking lie. The only real "blockade" that there is is by SEA. They let thousands of tons of stuff into Gaza. And these scum aren't starving as can be seen by the vegatable and fruit markets they don't show on mainstream mdeia. And the comment about "pipe bombs in basements" Is he fucking kidding??? What did they shoot that jet down with? A fucking sling-shot??? They're using all the fucking weapons looted from Libya the stupid jerks. I'm listening to these brain-dead assholes and these are the intelectuals in the bunch? These are the "brainy people"? Yeah, and the goons only want to talk to those like the mainstream media who would spread their Nazi propaganda. It just made me sick to my stomach listening to those cowards who didn't even have the guts or the courage of their convictions to express their "beliefs" to whoever. I pray Canadian Intelligence, (probably a misnomer like our CIA) had the good sense to document these assholes for future reference. And the idiot rooting for Reagan obviously didn't suffer under the sonofabitch when he was Governer. And the guy nailed it not only did he arm the Taliban he gutted the mental health system in California. I'm pretty sure he's THE guy responsible for us not being able to humanely take the mentally ill off the street because he gave them "rights". I could go on about Bush who literally helped to murder an innocent man who was on death row in Texas. Anybody who doesn't realize that citizens are getting it from both sides of the aisle is a Useful (less) Idiot.

READ The Haj by Leon Uris and pass it around like a religious tract. It'll give you the TRUTH about the sham that is the so-called right of return. Here's some more:

I recently sent these links to UNRWA's Facebook page. The next day they were gone and my ability to post was removed. UNRWA and the UN are unapologetic mouthpieces for terrorists.

History of Israel & “Palestine” in VERY easy to understand maps
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

The "Mandate for Palestine" is the Best Reply to "Occupation"
http://www.mythsandfacts.org/article_view.asp?articleID=162&order_id=1

Palestinians ‘Peoplehood’ Based on a Big Lie Eli E. Hertz
http://www.mythsandfacts.org/article_view.asp?articleID=53&order_id=2
There is No Palestinian State by Efraim Karsh
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/16/there-is-no-palestinian-state.html

Why a Special Issue on UNRWA? By Steven J. Rosen
http://www.meforum.org/3344/unrwa-special

UNRWA Resists Resettlement by Alex Joffe (Personally I like the pdf version.)
http://www.meforum.org/3350/unrwa-resettlement

Teaching “The Right of Return” in UNRWA Schools
http://www.israelbehindthenews.com/library/pdfs/RightofReturninUNRWASchools.pdf

UNRWA's Anti-Israel Bias
http://www.meforum.org/2996/unrwa-anti-israel-bias

(Nazi Propaganda by John Ging. Total F-ing Denial.) Statement by John Ging, UNRWA Director of Operations in Gaza7 January 2009 http://www.unrwa.org/etemplate.php?id=357

Hamas from cradle to Grave by Matthew Levitt
http://www.meforum.org/582/hamas-from-cradle-to-grave

Arafat's Swiss Bank Account by Issam Abu Issa
http://www.meforum.org/645/arafats-swiss-bank-account make sure to check out foot notes.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/plocca-2002-empty-words

Investing in Yasser Arafat By Michael Kelly
http://www.levitt.com/newsletters/1999-01.html#THIRD

Palestinians enraged that Romney told truth about their lack of interest in peace, call him "ignorant" and "prejudiced". Great examples of how “safe” Israel would be next to a Palestinian state.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/palestinians-enraged-that-romney-told-truth-about-their-lack-of-interest-in-peace-call-him-ignorant-print.html

Islamists Project Islam's Worst Traits onto Christians by Raymond Ibrahim
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/9669/islamists-project-islam-worst-traits-onto

Muslims Project Islam's Worst Traits onto Israel and the Jews by Raymond Ibrahim
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/8348/muslims-project-islam-worst-traits-onto-israel

David Horowitz Chilling Exchange With Muslim Student
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=ownvVnxRaUY&NR=1

Israel Delilah missile-Missile specifically designed to avoid civilian casualties
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvMH-Z5IFjI

“The Muslim Brotherhood in America: The Enemy Within.”
http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/

The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam (pdf)
http://frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/ViolentOpp.pdf
The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/videos/108/the-violent-oppression-of-women-in-islam/

IslamWorld
http://www.islamworld.net/ (Even though this is a Muslim website it's a pretty great resource.)

The Rape and Murder of Pakistan’s Christian Children
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/raymond-ibrahim/the-rape-and-murder-of-pakistans-christian-children/

Behind the Scenes: Palestinian Demonstrations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDohNq9BORo&feature=player_embedded

SHORT LIST (See Full list Facebook page)
The Haj by Leon Uris
Muslim Mafia by Gaubatz and Sperry
Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel
“Slavery, Terrorism and Islam” and “Holocaust in Rwanda” by Peter Hammond
The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America by David Horowitz
Ivory Towers On Sand: The Failure of Middle Eastern Studies in America by Martin Kramer
The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism by Andrew G. Bostom
The Legacy of Jihad by Andrew G. Bostom MD
A Concise History of the Crusades by Thomas F. Madden
The Book of Jewish Knowledge by Nathan Ausubel
The New Moody Atlas of the Bible by Barry J. Beitzel
The Al Qaeda Reader by Raymond Ibrahim
Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law
Sahih al-Bukhari
The Koran: Pickthall
The Quran: Yusuf Ali: Translated by Prof. Syed Vickar Ahmed
Holy Qur'an with Commentary: Maulana Muhammad Ali
The Second Message of Islam by Mahmoud Mohamed Taha
Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington by Paul Sperry
American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us by Steven Emerson
Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores by Michelle (the hottest woman on the planet) Malkin
Vince Flynn's “Term Limits” as a solution to our political problems.
Taken Into Custody by Stephen Baskerville and The War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Sommers

Islamophobia: Thought Crime of the Totalitarian Future David Horowitz & Robert Spencer
http://frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/Islamophobia.pdf
“The Muslim Brotherhood in America: The Enemy Within.” Frank Gaffney
http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/

Watching the video, I was astonished by how illiterate, ignorant, and inarticulate these anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian protestors are, even the ones who look as though they might have graduated from college one or two decades ago. So, it wasn’t an issue of the reporter asking clueless, non-conceptual, college-brainwashed Valley Gals and Valley Guys questions they couldn’t digest. Clearly universities all over the West have been succeeding in reducing a fair number of young people into babbling, programmed, emotionalist wrecks over at least two generations. There are many more of these pitiful creatures in the U.S., and the reporter could just as well have been interviewing people in New York, Los Angeles or Kansas City. It is utterly futile to expect any one of them to pause and think, because their thinking capacity has been whittled down to the mere perceptual level, such as not crossing the street in front of oncoming traffic and not sprinkling poison as sugar on their Cheerios. Broader abstractions that challenge the pap they've absorbed in schools simply bounce off their consciousnesses. They're gone.

Wellington, amigo.
I’m doing OK, thanks, and seeing you in your fine form makes me doing even better.

And yes, I have read on few occasions that the onset of the illness occurred years after Reagan’s victorious offensive against the Evil Empire. But even not having the information it would have never occurred to me to connect the illness with his, masterfully planned, executed and victorious crusade. That would be as absurd as attributing Mohammad Ali's victory over George Forman to his future Parkinson. But hate combined with natural obtuseness makes one unable to realize how grotesquely idiotic one appears doing just that. The maggot’s constant hateful, pompous gibberish is a perfect example. Gosh, the guy is as pathetic as he is disgusting. Well, enough of it.

Take care, Wellington. Best to you and yours.

''Conservative god Ronald 'Alzheimer' Reagan''

You really are a nasty, sneering, amoral creature.

Alzheimer's is a terrible disease that can overtake anyone. Do you snigger at Down's Syndrome people, as well ? Point and smirk at people with cystic fibrosis ?

In the 18th Century, I expect you would have had a ringside seat at Bedlam.

And your attitude to Israel is equally indicative of your total amorality. According to you, the West should turn their backs on Israel because supporting her wouldn't **gain** the West anything. You have no moral compass at all, do you ?

Aligning with nefarious forces is sometimes necessary for civilization. A fine example of this is the alliance in WWII by America and Britain with Stalinist Russia. So, what Reagan did in Afghaninstan must be seen as a chapter in a far larger war, the Cold War, which eventually was won by the right side. Besides, when Reagan started arming opposition to the Soviets in Afghanistan, he wasn't aware of the very dark underside of such opposition. And I don't believe you when you assert that "secular Afghans" in any extensive or consistent way alerted the Reagan Administration to such a dark side.

As for Reagan running up the debt, this is yet another inaccuracy of yours. Reagan's tax policies almost doubled federal revenue between 1981 and 1989. The problem was the damn Congress which spent the increased revenue faster than Reagan brought it in. If Reagan had had a line-item veto, the debt would not have increased like it did during his tenure in office (and such debt pales in comparision to what Obama has piled up in less than four years). And it wasn't an increase in defense spending that caused this debt, as sometimes alleged. As Cap Weinberger, Reagan's defense secretary, noted, everytime Reagan sent a budget to Congress it cut defense and increased domestic spending significantly. Get your facts straight on this next time, if you're able, which I rather doubt you are.

Finally, pulling out the old lie that Geroge Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq really types you for the limited, clueless, deceitful person that you are. Every major intelligence agency on the planet thought Saddam Hussein still had WMDs. SH's actions were such that it was only logical to conclude he was stalling and impeding UN inspection teams for a reason, that reason being his desire to retain WMDs. What is absolute fact is that SH had once had WMDs AND had used them. And so Bush acted on the information available to him at that time. It would be the height of folly to expect a US President to have 100% proof before military action would be taken. Such a requirement would be idiotic and immoral. Try growing up, if you can, and see how the world really works. Again, I doubt you have any such ability.

and also @jake-a runi
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think you both make a lot of sense and your comments help to sharpen up my own comprehension of the mideast situation. "me yahoo", I earlier suggested few here would appreciate, much less agree, with your opinions. You really do have the patience of Job. I, for one, encourage you to continue to post.
The boors who high five each other when one insults a contributor because he isn't rabidly pro-Israel avoid serious debate because many are not sufficiently open minded to even consider well reasoned and well informed opposing opinions. Others are simply incapable of sustained critical thinking. Ergo, many of them probably think it was right for the US to invade Iraq because Saddam was threatening to use WMD...and beside he was behind 911. Right? - just ask Cheney.

Bravo Wellington! Thanks for your “top of the line” comment. Focussed, concise, informative and sharp.

Try growing up, if you can, and see how the world really works. Again, I doubt you have any such ability.

It is not so much a matter of ability, as honesty. The man is, first of all a liar. And that precludes growing up. Being also stuck up and obtuse doesn’t help either.

MY GOD THOSE LEFTIES ARE STUPID.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS WORTH WHILE TRYING TO ENGAGE SUCH PEOPLE IN A REAL DISCUSSION.
LET THEM HAVE THEIR 15 MINUTES OF FAME AND THEN LETS MOVE ON.
IN THE MEANTIME ISRAEL NEEDS TO FINISH THE JOB THIS TIME. DESTROY THE ENEMY!! THAT IS HOW WARS ARE WON.

"The boors who high five each other when one insults a contributor because he isn't rabidly pro-Israel avoid serious debate because many are not sufficiently open minded to even consider well reasoned and well informed opposing opinions. "

These words by darmanad might be less hollow and laughable, were he to take the time and trouble to

1) read through the sources provided by "Larry" above
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/pro-jihad-canadian-leftist-and-muslim-protesters-get-aggressive-with-sun-news-team.html#comment-918045

and

2) write out a counter-argument based upon a point-by-point refutation of all the pertinent matter in those essays. (Needless to add, that a counter-argument and a refutation both require sufficient evidence, and mere claims without evidence will simply not do.)

And those essays, as formidable as they are in sheer quantity, only represent the tip of the iceberg of what someone needs to know to get a leg up on the learning curve.

Dick Cheney NEVER said that Iraq under Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11. You lie. What Cheney did say was that SH had connections with al-Qaeda, the presence of Zarqawi in Iraq being partially dispositive of the veracity of Cheney's claim.

Oh yeah, the many commenters here at JW who understand that Israel is the canary in the coal mine are not "rabidly pro-Israel." No, they are "just," in determined fashion, unwaveringly pro-Israel, with deep conviction, because Israel is the only completely free and democratic polity in the Middle East, where Israeli Arabs have more liberty than Arabs do in any Arab-run country. Wise up, stupid.

Yes, thomas h, your assessment of a most deficient one is very much on target. Honesty is indeed his greatest problem. If honest, the truth will follow as a matter of course, with ancillary benefits like not being "stuck up and obtuse."

Always good to hear from you. Ah, the fight continues against ignorance and hate. Must not give up. Ever. Take care, my friend.

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