Robert Spencer and Michael Coren discuss Obama's reelection

And where is Obama making his first post-election visit to a foreign country? To Egypt to support the persecuted native Copts imperilled by his favoured arab spring? No, to Burma to put pressure on the government there to help out the so-called "Rohingya" Bangladeshi muslim land-grab interlopers. It's a matter of priorities.

The sound on my computer is currently on the fritz, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but my take away from the election is this:

Islam has never had a better friend than the one that it has in Obama, and that this will surely produce terrible consequences for decades to come.

We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know for certain that the cruel cult of Mohammedanism is the exact opposite of what it claims to be.

Islam is no "Religion of Peace." Islam is primarily a religion of "injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence." The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur'an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur'an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.

Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."

Sharia is Islam. Islam is sharia. The laws of the sharia have been extracted from the Islamic texts themselves. They certainly were not created out of thin air.

Among other evils, the vile Qur'an calls upon Muslims to "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." (009.029)

With zombie-like obedience, the Islamic scholars and khalifas followed murderous little Muhammad's every word and deed and elaborated upon the dictates of the Qur'an which are to be applied in jihad against those who do not accept Islam nor agree to pay the Jizya. The infidel males capable of bearing arms are to be massacred; the infidel women and children are to be enslaved; the movable properties of the infidels are to be plundered; their lands are to be expropriated; their places of worship are to be destroyed; their priests and monks are to be killed and their scriptures burnt.

Those who agree to pay Jizya are to be treated as dhimmis who are allowed to live and work for the Islamic state under the following 20 disabilities: (1) they are not to build any new places of worship; (2) they are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the Muslims; (3) they are not to prevent Muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship; (4) they are to entertain for three days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes, and for a longer period if the Muslim falls ill; (5) they are not to harbour any hostility towards the Islamic state, or give any aid and comfort to hostile elements; (6) they are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam; (7) they have to show respect towards every Muslim; (8) they have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings; (9) they are not to dress like Muslims; (10) they are not to name themselves with Muslim names; (11) they are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle; (12) they are not to possess arms; (13) they are not to wear signet rings or seals on their fingers; (14) they are not to sell or drink liquor openly; (15) they are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their inferior status, and which separates them from the Muslims; (16) they are not to propagate their customs and usages amongst the Muslims; (17) they are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of Muslims; (18) they are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the Muslims; (19) they are not to observe their religious practices publicly, or mourn their dead loudly; and (20) they are not to buy Muslim slaves.

The “law” of Islam also prescribes death penalty for those who (1) question the exclusive claim of Islam as the only true religion, and of Muhammad as the last prophet; (2) try to revert to their ancestral faith after having been forced or lured to embrace Islam; and (3) marry Muslim women without first getting converted to Islam. Non-Muslims are also discriminated against in matters of testimony in law courts, taxation, and appointment to public offices. To sum up, the status of non-Muslims in an Islamic state is that of hewers of wood and drawers of water. They are subjected to every possible indignity and pressure in order to force them into the fold of Islam.

Michael,

What explanation would you offer for the reported boost in Catholic votes Obama received, even after all he tried to do (and, now, WILL do) to Catholic organizations? The explanation I've been getting elsewhere is "They're CINOs" but I don't know that adequately explains it. Your thoughts? Thanks...

I don't know that Rasool Obama is a Mahoundian or not, but I do know he wears the 'Golden Ring of Allah', as a wedding ring...Supposedly he has been wearing it for years...but took it off so that Michelle could slip it back on his finger as a wedding ring...The ring has shahada and Allah's name engraved on it, where Allah's name touches the skin 24/7...Does that make him a Mahoundian? I don't know, but if you wear Allah's wedding ring it must mean something...

November 5, 2012 GAFFNEY: Vote for Obama to restrict free speech

Four more years to push anti-blasphemy law

... The documentary opens with Mr. Obama's astounding pronouncement at the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 25: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."

Now, Obama begins his overthrow of the government. He will continually weaken, then destroy financially and politically. In fact, many of his actions will not make sense to the casual observer because most people could never fathom what he is actually after. The truth is, he feels he can only achieve his true place in government after getting the congress and the Supreme Court out of his way. And he can only do that after collapsing the economy, and more specifically financial collapse such as Germany when Hitler became Chancellor. Germany's economy had already collapsed when Hitler became Chancellor, but was very weak politically and still holding on. The government was no match to stop him and he quickly dissolved the Constitution, and the political system, then he became Fuhrer.
Obama has a little more work too do, but the end result will be the same. The current "fiscal cliff" may, or may not take place as he wants, but he has more than one way to get there. Even if it does happen, he will have too keep chipping away until he brings down that house of cards. The Democrats in the Senate only need to buy him a little more time. Signing the U.N. Small Arms Treaty will also be very helpful.

The Muslim man did not win, God won. George Bush provoked 911 and so God sent down Sandy to show the world what he can do. George Bush has to lie and hide God doesn´t. God sent Katrina as a retaliation for Iraq but no one paid heed. Beware people BE WARE.

Probably Ghana's President has better relations with Israel than Obama does.

"President [of Ghana] congratulates Israeli government for rescue mission"

http://www.allghananews.com/general-news/6568-president-congratulates-israeli-government-for-rescue-mission#

Probably Ghana's President has better relations with Israel than Obama does.

"President [of Ghana] congratulates Israeli government for rescue mission."

http://www.allghananews.com/general-news/6568-president-congratulates-israeli-government-for-rescue-mission#

Well said Robert. I think in order for a sea-change or revolution in thinking with the political and media elites to take place, they'd have to be educated on the real Islam and the threat it poses not just to the West but human civilization in general.

That education is not taking place and probably won't because the enemies of freedom will do everything they can to suppress that truth about Islam from coming out and from people 'connecting the dots.' The case of Nidal Hasan is testament to this trend.

My worry is in the future as the Islamo-leftist movement gains in strength and ferocity they will begin to go after whistle-blowers and truth-tellers like us, much as in the same way the Nazis went after dissident Germans or as today in Communist countries.

Once a socialist or fascist regime becomes entrenched, they are very difficult to remove-since they also do away with real democracy.

I think things will definitely get uglier, but I'm with Pamela Geller on this. We need to hold the line for the next 4 years. For every attempt by the Obama administration at destroying our rights and freedoms, we need to get out there in mass protest to make sure he doesn't get away with it.

This global war is really one between those on the side of reason/reality and those who support the supremacy of unreason/delusion (Islam) over the rest of us. Our civilization is great and prosperous because we've largely jettisoned theocracy and allowed science, democracy and capitalism to flourish. These lunatics seek to undo all those gains.

Should we fail to democratically prevent our nations from slipping into theocratic/fascist or socialist totalitarian regimes, the only recourse that freedom-loving people would have left is all out war against these tyrannical states. Seeing Britain today shows how close we are to that nightmarish, Orwellian scenario. The rest of us are not too far behind.

"Now, Obama begins his overthrow of the government... The government was no match to stop him and he quickly dissolved the Constitution, and the political system, then he became Fuhrer.
Obama has a little more work too do, but the end result will be the same."

Sure, Obama is the enemy. He wants to overthrow the government. Obama is hitler!, yup, now you know!

I just recently posted that the right doesn't come across as unreasonable because they - more often than not - look at their political opponent, the liberals, as their enemies and not their opponents. Again, this short piece is a prime example of what I am talking about.

I don't like Obama, but this is ridiculous. Sorry, this kind of rhetoric just turns of the average US voter. Who in their right mind wants to vote for these kind of people?

Robert, you're absolutely right. But you know from your trips to Europe, that over here it's even worse. The problem is the more you give Mahoundians the more they want. Even in Britain where they have 85 sharia courts, they claim to be victimised. There is an old saying: If you the devil your little finger, he'll grab the whole arm. That's what they do. Islam was born in hell.

That by any means,as in by hook or by crook Omama won the election and it is thus no wonder that the Islamist are glad about it. For example during a four night lecture in August during the question and answer part the question was asked "Is Obama really a Muslim ?"
One of the two speakers, Dr.Daniel Shayesteh, who in time past was both a Muslim and a Hezbollah member answered "I don't konw if he is a Muslim of not but his deception is Islamic." Dr. Shayesth also said about Obama that "When is speaks he sounds just like a Muslim." He also added about Obama that "He is going to hurt this country."

What is this "relationship" of which you speak?

Obama stole this election. Here's an interesting article about how Obama lost in every state that has voter ID laws:

http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416

I disagree ..deep down I think obama is a muslim. He may call himself a Christian, which of course he is NOT, but by his actions he's a muslim; add to the fact muslims are permitted to lie (imagine that, allah allows them to lie-tsk, tsk!).

On the subject of Israel that you covered--good analysis. As soon as the election went obama's way (and I DID not vote for the man) I immediately thought about Netanyahu and his next move with regards to Iran. Now Israel may surely have to go it alone. Boy, stay tuned!

This gem from our latest troll.

''Firstly muslims are not allowed to where gold, ... ''

Where I used to live, in the Harehills area of Leeds, which is now chock a block full of paki muslims, there are shops selling gold jewellery on nearly every street corner. Now, if muslims aren't allowed to wear gold, who on earth is buying it all ?

Because I can guarantee the Harehills population is now at least 90% muslim, if not more.

This gem from our latest troll.

''Firstly muslims are not allowed to where gold, ... ''

Where I used to live, in the Harehills area of Leeds, which is now chock a block full of paki muslims, there are shops selling gold jewellery on nearly every street corner. Now, if muslims aren't allowed to wear gold, who on earth is buying it all ?

Because I can guarantee the Harehills population is now at least 90% muslim, if not more.

Sorry about the double post. I got one of those gateway time out thingies.

Ooops I meant to have written muslim men are not permitted. So that still leaves women who wear it.

I no need to quote the verse,s because every one here are already well versed about the scriptures.

A lot of rural and older muslims do not have faith in banks, and prefer to buy gold. The next time a big muslim holiday is coming, if you bother to look, you will see that the gold shops are very busy buying the gold back from the muslim, so that the muslims have money for the holiday.

This way the money stays within the muslim community.

One thing else, most muslims do not drink, so the happen to have more money over to buy other things, such as clothes, smart phones cars or gold.

Well things can't be that bad in Harehills if there is a gold shop on every corner, any way it can't be much worse than when there was a pub on every corner, and the locals pissing there hard earned cash against the wall.

"Obama's reelection" ...

The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results.

He's stereotyping the British as drunken wastrels and praising Muslims as frugal folks who save up their money and don't waste it on drink

No way am I praising the muslims, just pointing out a simple fact that muslims have more cash over, because they abstain from booze.

(he doesn't seem to have heard of those pedophile Muslim sex gangs all over the UK, who drank and drugged as well as plying their underage victims with drugs and alcohol).

Oh yes I have heard about the kids who have fallen victims to the the depraved sex perverts. I believe that those that fiddle with kids should be castrated.

It is disgusting that these kids have been let down by the social services, the police, the teachers and lastly the parents who have not taken their responsibility of their kids, so they become vulnerable to sexual monsters.

It is heartbreaking, that most of these girls come from homes, where there is according to Barnardo’s many risk factors associated with being drawn into exploitation including:
■ violent fathers or stepfathers
■ physical or sexual abuse within the family
■ mothers who were victims of domestic violence and/or dependent on alcohol or drugs
■ drug or alcohol dependence
■ being hungry for attention
■ being keen to ‘escape’ childhood and be regarded as adults.

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/full_london_report.pdf

Above, gs deflects specific attention from Islam, by equivalencing:

"I refuse to single out muslims on this issue, as child sex abuse is not limited to muslims."

No it is not; but *only * Islam, among major belief systems practised today, permits and condones and indeed *sacralises* the wedding and bedding of prepubescent or barely-pubescent girls by adult males, sometimes adult males old enough to be their grandfathers.

A Western pedophile *knows*, at some level, that what he is doing is considered *wrong* and *evil* by his society; that it is both *immoral* and *illegal*.

A Muslim who uses a twelve-year-old girl for sex has no such framework; whether he has done a nikah - a license to f*** with her - in the mosque, or whether he views her as a 'possession of the right hand', he *knows* that Mohammed bedded Aisha when she was *nine*, and anything and everything Mohammed did is worthy of admiration and emulation.

Further: though homosexuality as we think of it in the west is formally forbidden by Islam, and adult males who engage in consensual sex are liable to be killed if caught, in reality, male-on-male sex (in particular, the sexual use of prepubescent boys by older males, a practice which in Western societies is both illegal and immoral) is - according to numerous historic and contemporary reports - absolutely *rampant* throughout the entire Muslim world. The bacha bazi practice is Afghanistan is just one example.

Three articles that should give some idea of the depths of perversion - including sexual abuse of girls and young boys both within and outside of the family - that seem to be almost *routine* inside dar al Islam.

Symposium: To Rape an Unveiled Woman
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, March 07, 2006
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5347

Just a sample:

"The personal literary reports and the official UN analyses on Islamic family dynamics concur in a somewhat disquieting aspect.
They confirm not only the tendency to incest but also an even stronger attitude towards anal sexuality, meaning an unusually high percentage of males preferring anal intercourse to vaginal, especially in the framework of "normal" marital life."

...

"The Arab Muslim culture by definition promotes an incested family, a “closed circle”, and their “Freud” is Abdelwahab Bouhdiba, Sexuality in Islam, Saqi Books, 1998. If you read French, it’s been available since 1975 in the original"

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=d51b2383-01a0-4896-b174-19f115ec0942

Boys of the Taliban
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | 1/1/2007

"...even though homosexuality is officially despised in this culture and strictly prohibited and punishable by imprisonment, incarceration and/or death, having sex with boys or effeminate men is actually a social norm.

"Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women.

"The key is this: the male who does the penetrating is not considered to be homosexual or emasculated any more than if he were to have sex with his wife, while the male who is penetrated is emasculated.

"The boy, however, is not considered to be emasculated since he is not yet considered to be a man.

"A man who has sex with boys is simply doing what many men (especially unmarried ones) do.

"And this reality is connected to the fact that, as scholar Bruce Dunne has demonstrated, sex in Islamic-Arab societies is not about mutuality between partners, but about the adult male's achievement of pleasure through violent domination...".

"...Amnesty International has also reported that Afghan warlords routinely sexually victimize young boys and film the orgies. [5]

(The sexual abuse of young girls in this environment is also obviously widespread)...
REFERENCE BY AUTHOR:
'Author Nawal El Saadawi, gives an account of the horrifying and widespread sexual abuse of young girls in the Muslim-Arab world, a crime for which the perpetrators are exonerated.
'See Sadawwi, The Hidden Face of Eve: Women in the Arab World, pp.12-24.

'While it is obvious that this abuse, as with the abuse of young boys, is connected to the unavailability of women for men in the culture at large, Phyllis Chesler notes that the widespread sexual abuse of female children in the Muslim world “is one of the main ways of traumatizing and shaming girls into obedience [this is how Hannah Shah’s father set out to brutalise her into submission - see 'The Imam's Daughter' - dda] and rendering them less capable of rebellion or resistance when they grow up.” (Chesler, The Death of Feminism, p.145) ."

http://www.merip.org/mer/mer206/bruce.htm

Power and Sexuality in the Middle East
Bruce Dunne

''It is you that is doing the ignoring, you forget about all the other sex deviants, you forget about Richard Price (the nonce Tommy tried to cover up''

Tommy didn't try to 'cover up' Price. He believed, at first, that Price had been stitched up by the police; when Price confessed, he was kicked out of the EDL. Nobody tried to cover-up anything.

''Child sex abuse is not confined to muslims, Jimmy Savile is good proof of that''

No-one ever said it was. However, islam and its disgusting prophet, who 'married' a 6 year old, and raped her when she was 9, is the only 'religion' that actually commends paedophilia.

One of the first laws passed by Khomeni was to **lower the age of marriage for girls to 9**. And isn't islam's disgusting pig of a prophet supposed to be the 'perfect man' whose example all pious mohammedans should follow ?

''If you where so damned concerned, where were you when Nick Griffen forced the governments hand when he got busted In Kieghley for talking about grooming, and calling Islam disgusting.''

I'm afraid you're going to have to elucidate this remark a little more clearly. Are you trying to say my concern is questionable because I wasn't in Keighley ? How do you know I wasn't in Keighley ? Or are you trying to say Griffen should have kept his mouth shut ? Or are you commending him ?

''The Pakistani pimps and their tricks did not target the poor girls because they where kufr, but because the girls where vulnerable. I have not read of a case where Hindu, Sikh or muslim girls are groomed to become child prostitutes in Britain. Why is that?. I bet you will not answer that''

Well, the Sikh community in Luton would disagree with you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167009/The-far-Right-leader-Sikh-headscarf-disturbing-anti-Muslim-alliance-EDL-joins-protesters-angry-grooming-girls.html

The usual garbage abou the EDL, but do please note it was **Sikhs** protesting.

Oh, and Hindu girls.

http://islam-watch.org/authors/65-khan/1024-uk-hindus-sikhs-protest-asian-propaganda-by-media-authority-making-them-culpable-for-muslim-crimes.html

This is almost too easy. You are aware of how the internet works, right ? All one has to do is google ...

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/sikhs-protest-sexual-exploitation-by-uk-muslim-gangs_784804.html

''So by the way you and EDL are focussing on Pakistani child molesters, and ignoring the Richard Prices and Jimmy Saviles, seem to me the EDL are racist,s who are using the anti-jihad movement as a cover''

What risible nonsense. By the way, that's paki **muslim** paedophile gangs; 50 to 60 in each ring. No-one is ignoring the Prices or the Saviles, but, as dda has pointed out, these evil scum know at some level that what they are doing is evil, and illegal.

The leader of one of the **muslim** paedo gangs screamed from the dock, when he was sentenced, that he was being victimised **because he was a muslim**, and the police were **racist**. You see, he didn't feel *he* had done anything wrong, he was a **victim** !! And muslims always are, aren't they ?

''BTW, the EDL site has been up for at least 12 hour, and was up at the time you posted last comment. Strange that you being an EDL member where not able to keep track of the EDL site, It is up.

So when you finally post the link, you can also cut and paste, as proxy severs are blocked in Indonesia''

Another lie. The site is **not** up now, and was not up when I posted my original comment.

Do you really think no-one is going to check your statements ?

But again, rest assured, I **will** post the thread your comments were on, as soon as the site is up again.

Not being particularly computer-savvy, (though I **can** use google) I'm afraid your remarks about 'proxy servers' mean nothing to me.

Are you telling us now that you're in Indonesia ? Strange how familiar you are with Harehills, and Luton, and Keighley ...

And this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18092605

The EDL site is up

Here is the latest post on the home page

Wir Sind Alle Tommy Robinson

Category: EDL News Published on Sunday, 11 November 2012 13:22 Written by Ignominius Hits: 265

With a nice big photo from Berlin.

Well not a good week end, 200 @ Norwich, Website hacked by naughty lads from ZHC, Then the remaining diehards are not informed that the site is up, but on a new domain, strange that your RO has not passed on the new address, that is if you really do belong to the Yorkshire division.

Any-way, for you pleasure

http://englishdefenceleague.net/edl-news-2/1823-wir-sind-alle-tommy-robinson

Now it is my turn to call you a liar,

There is nothing wrong with the link. I have EDL home page open now, and the latest posting is

http://englishdefenceleague.net/edl-news-2/1824-the-new-fascism-edl-website-attacked

Category: EDL News Published on Monday, 12 November 2012 13:18 Written by Pyrus Hits: 20

http://englishdefenceleague.net/edl-news-2/1824-the-new-fascism-edl-website-attacked

Open the link you will find a video by Geert Wilders.

Jan, from the soon defunct EDL tries again to imply I am a liar

Well jan, go to the British Freedom Party site, open the link Kevin Carroll: An Urgent Appeal.

There you will find KC giving the same link.

And the link you gave to the Daily Mail clearly states that only one women assaulted.In fact the victim was 19 year-old Sikh woman, who has not been identified, was reportedly beaten and sexually assaulted in the Bedfordshire town by a "Muslim man".

I find that very hard to classify as pedophiliac grooming.

So where am I expressing glee at the demise of EDL, I am sad that it has imploded because of extreme bad management and leadership.

You call me slime ball and liar, yet are thin skinned when you confronted with the fact that EDL is in decline. Where a have flags from the jewish and gay division gone.

I have not seem your points about Khomeini, most of which most probably, came from a very dubiuos anti khomeini website. You will not be able to find one reliable source concerrnning Khomeini alleged sexual perversions, then there is the famous quotes from some book he was supposed to have written, and thousands of sites parrot

"A man can have sex with sheep, cows and camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine."

Khomeini's "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

Yet not one can show a scan of the book or the page. Not even Mr Spencer or Ali Sini.

To day Irans laws are based on Khomeini,s Tahrirolvasyleh, which is basic a rehash of earlier books clarifying sharia law,

In Iran the penalty for sex with animal is death.

OOOp,s I have to make a correction

The Law on Huddud and Qisas (qanune huddud va qisas) consisting of 218 articles was passed by the Islamic Consultative Assembly and the Council of Guardians respectively on 24 August 1982 [03.06.1361] and [27.07.1361] for five years on a trial basis.
Fourth conviction of intercourse with animals (lesser convictions are punished by ta‘zir as determined by the judge).

This was not included in 1991/96 criminal code or other legislation.
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrc/docs/ngo/NGO_submission_ELEI_Add.1.pdf

Now what khomeini did write

The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold.

If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it.

There is no way Khomeini permits animal sex, the above ruling is what to do if such a deed happens

.http://prophetofdoom.net/The_Little_Green_Book_2_10.Islam

If a man – Allah protect him from it! – fornicates with an animal and ejaculates, ablution is necessary.

Allah protect him from it! = God forbid

So In fact Khomeini did not approve of animal sex, and those who persit in spreading these rumour actually are doing harm to the anti - jihad movement.

So Jan

#1 Still no link to back up your allegations why I was banned from EDL.

#2 You have given nothing to prove I am lying about T Robinson.

If the government where trying silence him, they would have have issued an ASBO at the time he was sentenced for assaulted. He is in jailed for breaking the condition of his sentencing.

Ironically, he was sentenced for head butting an ex-service man, so much for his respect for the troops.

#3 It is you that kicked off this debate, over the fact about Obamas hindu styled ring and the prohibition of muslim men not allowed to wear gold.

#4 You accuse me of lying about the EDL site being up.

#5 You challenge me about Khomeini, but you do not follow up.

Pathetic