Tanzania: Muslims destroy dozens of churches, demand heads of all church pastors

Will the Islamophobia never end? "Dozens of Churches Destroyed In Tanzania; East Africa Violence Spreading," from Worthy News, November 13:

DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA (Worthy News)– Dozens of Christian worship places have been destroyed by Islamic extremists in Tanzania and church leaders are fleeing its heavily Muslim island of Zanzibar, as the persecution of Christians spreads throughout East Africa, a human rights chief said Monday, November 12.

“As of May [about] 25 churches and convents have been destroyed. This destruction is mostly confined to [semi-autonomous] Zanzibar where the population is 99 percent Muslim and openly hostile to Christians,” explained William Stark, regional manager for Africa of advocacy group International Christian Concern (ICC)

In one of the latest just revealed incidents, violence broke out last month after a Muslim boy encouraged a Christian boy to urinate on a Koran, deemed a holy book by Muslims, on the outskirts of Dar es Salaam, the capital.

“As a result of this meeting, the Christian boy was threatened with being beheaded and at least five churches were destroyed,” Stark said.

Bishop Fabian Obeid, the Chairman of the Pastor's Fellowship in Zanzibar, stressed in published remarks that when the two boys met, the Muslim boy bragged that if someone was to urinate on the Kuran, that person would be turned into a snake, a dog or a rat.

CHRISTIAN BOY

"The Christian boy [was] interested with this scenario and without giving it a second thought urinated on the Koran," he added in a statement distributed by ICC.

When the Muslim boy informed his parents, they allegedly decided to confront the parents of the Christian boy. After discovering they weren't at home, the Muslim parents reported the incident to a nearby mosque in a move that eventually sparked violence, Christians said.

“Days later, a mob of Muslim youths gathered at the mosque after being stirred up at Friday prayer. Their intent was to punish the Christian boy for desecrating the Koran. Police were alerted of the situation and the boy was detained for protection against the mob,” well-informed Stark recalled.

They apparently demanded that police hand over the boy to the crowd and behead him, seen as an appropriate punishment for desecrating the Koran according to ultra conservative interpretations of Islamic law.

“When the police refused to release the boy, the mob began to riot…the mob decided to turn their rage on churches and other Christian property in the area,” Stark said,

TORCHED CHURCHES

The mob burned down five churches, including the Seven Day Church, the Anglican Church and the Assemblies of God Church, Christians said Other property belonging to Christians in the area was also destroyed including a car belonging to the Anglican Church pastor, according to ICC investigators.

“As the riots continued, the Evangelical Assemblies of God Church in Tanzania was pulled down. In the following days, unrest in the Muslim community continued, leading to the destruction of more properties across the country and the lives of Christian leaders being threatened,” Stark said in a statement obtained by Worthy News.

The violence also spread to Zanzibar, where on October 18, a mob of Muslim protestors carrying clubs, swords and machetes invaded two churches shouting "We want the head of Bishop Shayo" as they tried to enter his Roman Catholic church, Christians claimed.

When they failed to break into the church, the mob moved on to the Anglican church of Reverend. Emmanuel Masoud where the crowd broke windows and were seen hacking at the doors while chanting: "We need the head of Masoud!" and We want the heads of all the church pastors in Zanzibar!"

Pastor Lucian Mgaywa of the Church of God in Zanzibar, said in a statement that, "These chants caused a lot of panic and some pastors, fearing for their lives, fled the island of Zanzibar to the mainland of Tanzania," though the government later “intervened and provided security.”

NO ARRESTS

However, “To date, no arrests have been made in connection with attacks on churches in Zanzibar, leading many to question whether the local government condones these activities,” Stark added.

Most violence has been linked to the Islamic separatist group 'Association for the Islamic Mobilization and Propagation' (UAMSHO) which wants Zanzibar to become independent from mainland Tanzania. “In recent years, UAMSHO has become increasingly fundamental in its religious convictions and has been involved in several attacks on Christians in Zanzibar,” Stark noted.

“After the Evangelical Assemblies of God Church was destroyed [last month] a flag belonging to UAMSHO was raised over the ruins of the church," said Bishop Fabian Obeid, Chairman of the Pastor's Fellowship in Zanzibar.

Stark observed that the spreading Islamic attacks in Tanzania coincides with “an increase of Christian persecution throughout East Africa.” Even in countries such as Kenya, which is 80 percent Christian, Islamic extremist groups like al-Shabaab are beginning to take root and perpetrate more acts of violence against Christians.

“These extremist groups often use incidents like the boy desecrating the Kuran to stir up tensions in Muslim communities that have lived in peace for generations with their Christian neighbors,” Stark added....

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Egypt is going through a time of the constitution but Pope Tawadros II has said that Christian should be ignored in Egypt.

Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/11/13/pope-tawadros-ii-says-that-the-constitution-can-not-ignore-christians/#ixzz2C7XlvHeJ

Youssef

"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18

"In Africa alone, every year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity" Sheikh Ahmad al-Qataani

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html

Thea actions the these violent Muslims against these Christians may be explained ,in part,in Proverbs 29:10 of the Bible.Which reads "Bloodthirsty men hate a man of integrity and seek to kill the upright." [NIV]

Hey I'd never waste money on buying a koran. Give me one though and I'd happily p*** on it or burn it. Come for me islamists. I'd guess that, even though now old, I could take out 5 of you cowards. You really like 5 or 10 to one. Good return.
I did ask "honest Ibe" to send me one. He never did.

The boy who urinated on the Qur'an book was apparently ignorant about even the basics of Islam, and the reason for that apparent ignorance is unknown to us.

This account doesn't tell us the age of the boy, so we don't know the capability of the boy to understand Islam's tenets. Apparently, the boy was tempted by another boy's beguiling words -- a situation similar to Eve's encounter with the tempter in Eden. In both cases, the beguiler succeeded. In both cases, the beguiler did not have the best interests of the beguiled-one in mind; the beguiler aimed to destroy the beguiled-one.

I don't know what churches do in regions where Islam is dominant. Perhaps they decline to educate children about the truth of Islam because they fear that Muslim or pre-Muslim infiltrators will learn what they are publicly teaching about Islam, or they fear that children will innocently reveal candidly ("spill the beans", as children do) to other children and adults what they know about Islam and thereby incur the wrath of Islamic people in regions where Islam is dominant.

It is a tough situation. They are walking on eggshells. Their situation requires great wisdom and great courage.

Tanzania: Muslims destroy dozens of churches, demand heads of all church pastors
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And remember, Tanzania *is not a Muslim country*. The nation's population is approximately 62% Christian and 35% Muslim (with about 3% followers of indigenous religions).

But a population that is 35% Muslim is enough, as we well know, to make them murderously aggressive.

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Will the Islamophobia never end? "Dozens of Churches Destroyed In Tanzania; East Africa Violence Spreading"...
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"East Africa violence spreading"—and yet, like so much unspecified violence, this seems to result in Muslims targeting Infidels. Really, it's a mystery...sarc/off

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DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA (Worthy News)– Dozens of Christian worship places have been destroyed by Islamic extremists in Tanzania and church leaders are fleeing its heavily Muslim island of Zanzibar, as the persecution of Christians spreads throughout East Africa, a human rights chief said Monday, November 12.
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Zanzibar was one of the most notorious centers of the Muslim slave trade for centuries, as Muslims enslaved the continent's Infidels.

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“As of May [about] 25 churches and convents have been destroyed. This destruction is mostly confined to [semi-autonomous] Zanzibar where the population is 99 percent Muslim and openly hostile to Christians,” explained William Stark, regional manager for Africa of advocacy group International Christian Concern (ICC)
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*This* is what happens when a nation grants "autonomy" to Muslim-majority districts. The Philippines have, foolishly, just done the same thing with their "restive" (read Jihad-ridden) south. How long will it be before we see similar horrors there?

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In one of the latest just revealed incidents, violence broke out last month after a Muslim boy encouraged a Christian boy to urinate on a Koran, deemed a holy book by Muslims, on the outskirts of Dar es Salaam, the capital.
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Will pious Muslims hold the Muslim boy responsible for this "desecration"? Don't count on it...

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As a result of this meeting, the Christian boy was threatened with being beheaded and at least five churches were destroyed,” Stark said.
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...and, of course not.

How common *is this*? Luring an Infidel child into an act of "blasphemy"—after all, how hard is it for some kid to encourage a little boy to pee on something? I grew up with brothers who were *always* having peeing contests with neighborhood boys. I thought is was gross—but otherwise harmless.

And if that doesn't work they can just falsify it it entirely, as an Imam in Pakistan recently did with a little developmentally-disabled Christian girl...

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Bishop Fabian Obeid, the Chairman of the Pastor's Fellowship in Zanzibar, stressed in published remarks that when the two boys met, the Muslim boy bragged that if someone was to urinate on the Kuran, that person would be turned into a snake, a dog or a rat.
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So the Muslim boy wanted to cause the Christian harm from the beginning—what a surprise. Of course, the Christian child wasn't turned into a snake, a dog, or a rat—he was just threatened with beheading, and his community had at least five of their churches burned down. **Ugh**.

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When the Muslim boy informed his parents, they allegedly decided to confront the parents of the Christian boy. After discovering they weren't at home, the Muslim parents reported the incident to a nearby mosque in a move that eventually sparked violence, Christians said.
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Hard to imagine a more classic example of "looking for an excuse"...

Or a clearer example of the horror of Muslim collective punishment of Infidels.

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“Days later, a mob of Muslim youths gathered at the mosque after being stirred up at Friday prayer. Their intent was to punish the Christian boy for desecrating the Koran. Police were alerted of the situation and the boy was detained for protection against the mob,” well-informed Stark recalled.
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Several grimly classic points here. The Muslim mob was whipped up by vicious Kutbas at the Mosque during Friday prayers—never mind that their target was just a kid.

And then you find the situation, so common in Dar-al-Islam, where the *victim* is arrested, *Not* his assailants.

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They apparently demanded that police hand over the boy to the crowd and behead him, seen as an appropriate punishment for desecrating the Koran according to ultra conservative interpretations of Islamic law.
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They wanted to *behead a little boy* for peeing on something.

God, I hate Islam.

And the entire horde was made up of "ultra conservatives"? That kind of pokes a hole in that whole "tiny minority of extremists" thing.

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“When the police refused to release the boy, the mob began to riot…the mob decided to turn their rage on churches and other Christian property in the area,” Stark said,
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Don't assume they would have stopped if they had been given a little child as a sacrificial victim. Emboldened by blood-lust the final toll likely would have been even worse.

Also, then they would have known that police wouldn't even put up nominal protection of the victims.

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“As the riots continued, the Evangelical Assemblies of God Church in Tanzania was pulled down. In the following days, unrest in the Muslim community continued, leading to the destruction of more properties across the country and the lives of Christian leaders being threatened”...
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So—it wasn't just the local Muslims. Somehow, Muslims *all over the country* got the idea that burning churches and threatening to murder Christian clergy was the proper response to a kid's peeing on a book.

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The violence also spread to Zanzibar, where on October 18, a mob of Muslim protestors carrying clubs, swords and machetes invaded two churches shouting "We want the head of Bishop Shayo" as they tried to enter his Roman Catholic church, Christians claimed.

When they failed to break into the church, the mob moved on to the Anglican church of Reverend. Emmanuel Masoud where the crowd broke windows and were seen hacking at the doors while chanting: "We need the head of Masoud!" and We want the heads of all the church pastors in Zanzibar!"
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If we didn't know better, we might well think that the Muslim mob just hates Christians...nah, couldn't be...sarc/off

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However, “To date, no arrests have been made in connection with attacks on churches in Zanzibar, leading many to question whether the local government condones these activities,” Stark added.
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So common...I guess it was just too difficult to find any of the hordes of perpetrators...sarc/off

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Most violence has been linked to the Islamic separatist group 'Association for the Islamic Mobilization and Propagation' (UAMSHO)...
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I've never even heard of these particular "extremists". But what does it matter? If it wasn't them, it would be some other band of pious Jihadists.

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“After the Evangelical Assemblies of God Church was destroyed [last month] a flag belonging to UAMSHO was raised over the ruins of the church," said Bishop Fabian Obeid, Chairman of the Pastor's Fellowship in Zanzibar.
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Also very, very common. This is Muslims both enthusiastically claiming responsibility for the destruction, *and* claiming ownership of the site. That will make it that much more difficult for Christians to try to rebuild. Add this to the Islamic bar on Christians building or even just doing upkeep on churches, and the situation is even worse.

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Stark observed that the spreading Islamic attacks in Tanzania coincides with “an increase of Christian persecution throughout East Africa.” Even in countries such as Kenya, which is 80 percent Christian, Islamic extremist groups like al-Shabaab are beginning to take root and perpetrate more acts of violence against Christians.
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*Yes*. And yet, most of the world is completely ignoring this holocaust.

The boy who urinated on the Qur'an book was apparently ignorant about even the basics of Islam, and the reason for that apparent ignorance is unknown to us.

This account doesn't tell us the age of the boy, so we don't know the capability of the boy to understand Islam's tenets. Apparently, the boy was tempted by another boy's beguiling words -- a situation similar to Eve's encounter with the tempter in Eden. In both cases, the beguiler succeeded. In both cases, the beguiler did not have the best interests of the beguiled-one in mind; the beguiler aimed to destroy the beguiled-one.

I don't know what churches do in regions where Islam is dominant. Perhaps they decline to educate children about the truth of Islam because they fear that Muslim or pre-Muslim infiltrators will learn what they are publicly teaching about Islam, or they fear that children will innocently reveal candidly ("spill the beans", as children do) to other children and adults what they know about Islam and thereby incur the wrath of Islamic people in regions where Islam is dominant.

It is a tough situation. They are walking on eggshells. Their situation requires great wisdom and great courage.

its OBAMA's fault, and here comes the obama Depression... prepare to defend your family.

I hope everyone noticed a couple of very small details.

"Bishop Fabian Obeid, the Chairman of the Pastor's Fellowship in Zanzibar...".

'Obeid' is not a name from any of the native languages of Africa; it is clearly an Arabic-derived name.

Looks to me as though we have here either an apostate from Islam, or - like Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali in the UK - a son of an apostate. Could even be a grandson of someone intelligent who left the Mohammedan Mob and became a Christian and raised Christian children.

And here's another:

,"the mob moved on to the Anglican church of Reverend. Emmanuel Masoud...:".

'Reverend Emmanuel Masoud'.

First name: Christian. Second name: Arabic-derived, suggesting Muslim background.

Is the good reverend Emmanuel Masoud an apostate from Islam who has followed a vocation into Christian ministry, or the descendant - son, grandson, great-grandson - of an apostate?

The wonderful man who supervised my Masters paper on Islam was an Anglican Missionary in East Africa for many years. He told me that the Anglican Cathedral in Zanzibar was built on the site of the old slave market, with the altar at the site of the whipping post.

Well over a decade ago I wrote a paper as an undergraduate comparing the then relatively harmonious relationship between Tanzanian Muslims & Christians with the very difficult relationship between Nigerian Christians & Muslims. The prevalence of Swahili in the East (itself a legacy of the Muslim slave trade, with many Arabic loan words) was deemed a unifying force. As was the lack of strong historical inter-tribal animosity. Nigeria did not share these things. Yet here we are still...

Isn't it interesting how there is REGULARLY an escalation of violence after friday sermons and during Ramadan? One would expect - and one sees among Christians - the exact opposite from a religious population around their holy times.

Yet again the call for independence once again manifests itself. Islamic revival movements do indeed all read from the same script and as Mark Durie & others state: Islam may be quite incapable of living as a minority.

Tanzanians speak Swahili, which is a mix of Bantu and Arabic. They aren't far from Arabia, which was NOT always a moslem country, either; it's quite possible their family names go back to the jahiliya (time before islam) when even many of the Arabian tribes were still Christians.

;-)

Tanzanians don't just speak Swahili.

There are no less than 135 different languages spoken in the country.

Only about 2 percent of the population speak Swahili as their mother tongue; the rest speak some other language as their mother tongue, and Swahili (along with English, among the best-educated) as a 'lingua franca'.

The Bible has been translated so far into no less than seventeen different languages (now, one of those would probably be a Swahili translation, but the other sixteen would be non-Swahili) ; seventeen more have the New Testament, but not the Old Testament; fifteen more languages have got portions of Christian scripture translated; the translators have started work in another ten languages.

I think it more probable that the two clergymen I identified are either apostates from Islam, or descended from recent apostates, than that their family lines go back to some distant non-Muslim Arab forebear of the 5th through 7th century.

Liam - I think you're right:

"..as Mark Durie & others state: Islam may be quite incapable of living as a minority."

So, re. the Zanzibar Muslim call for 'independence'...

I think that the non-Muslims of the mainland (originally 'Tanganyika'), should pull the rug out from under the Muslims.

*They* should secede from the union (of Tanganyika and Zanzibar) *first* and tell the Muslims of Zanzibar: you wanted independence? fine, go it alone...talaq, talaq, talaq. *You* want a pure Muslim state? - fine, well, *we* want a wholly NON-MUSLIM state, too; you can have Zanzibar, we'll have the rest.

All non-Muslims currently in Zanzibar, whether apostates or born-kafir, should leave (because if they stay, they will be oppressed, abused, and eventually force-converted, killed or driven out, anyway, like those foolish Hindus, Sikhs and Christians who chose to stay inside what became Pakistan), and settle in the newly-separate majority-non-Muslim nation of Tanganyika.

And ideally, at the time of separation of Tanganyika from Zanzibar, the Muslims within Tanganyika would be told: since you don't / won't want to live in a kafir-majority state, since we *cannot* trust you not to Go Jihad on us sooner or later, there's Zanzibar for you, all to your Muslim selves...GO...or be pushed.

If that separation isn't done straight away, it should happen bit by bit: that is, every time any Muslims on the *mainland*, in Tanganyika, acted up (violent crime, fraud, rioting, pushing for sharia, preaching or plotting or attempting Jihad, burning churches, threatening 'apostates' and 'blasphemers' or attacking same) they and their extended families would be arrested, put on a boat and sent to Zanzibar to live with their fellow Muslims. If they didn't like Zanzibar, well, there's Somalia and (North) Sudan to choose from.

If Kenya, Tanzania (Tanganyika), Uganda, South Sudan and Ethiopia were able to *all* do this - evict the Muslims into Zanzibar, Somalia, North Sudan, and then close and defend the borders, north/east African kuffar would stand a chance of surviving as free peoples.

Despite the fact that *some* from among the Muslims currently in Tanzania are apostasising (I know this from reading Barnabas Fund prayer letter, and other sources), just like elsewhere in Africa, I cannot see that anything but a complete separation will save the non-Muslim peoples. Where non-Muslims are in a strong enough majority they are going to have to turf out the Muslims; or be destroyed both from within and from without.

Wayne R wrote:

This most likely is a lie told by the muslim boy and his parents!
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That is quite likely as well, Wayne. Just like the case where a developmentally-disable Christian girl in Pakistan was supposed to have burnt a Qur'an, when the whole story was ginned up by the local Imam to force Christians to move out of the area.

The only reason the story rang true to me is the aspect of the Muslim boy's *luring* the child into damaging the Qur'an.

This vile meretriciousness—with the stated intent of seeing the Christian boy harmed in one way or another—is what fits so well with Muslim habits that it leads me to believe it is probably true.

Of course, he might also have tried to lure the Christian into "desecrating" the Qur'an, then peed on it himself and claiming the Christian boy had done it if unsuccessful.

In any case, very, very ugly.

Jihadists have been telling us for over a decade exactly their motivation, and what they intend.

It therefor is the lack of allegiance and patriotisum of the White House, Pentagon, Senate, Congress, Dept. of Defense, and Homeland Security that nations throughout the world are still struggling against many millions of jihadists throughout the world.

There is no good reason why the United Nations and other nations can't join (unite) in a serious commitment to end jihadists world wide.

It should be no surprize that these bombings and murders continue against non-Muslims. But the tip of the sword is not jihad with weapons, but jihad politically and socially in the justice departments and courtrooms world wide. The push for Sharia Law in place of local constitutions is the most dangerous weapon jihadists have.....

vnbushman wrote:

Jihadists have been telling us for over a decade exactly their motivation, and what they intend.

It therefor is the lack of allegiance and patriotisum of the White House, Pentagon, Senate, Congress, Dept. of Defense, and Homeland Security that nations throughout the world are still struggling against many millions of jihadists throughout the world.
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That's certainly the motive in many cases, vnbushman—but don't forget "political correctness", abysmal ignorance, and out-and-out denial, as well.

And it's not just in the United States—things in Europe and India and many other parts of Dar-al-Harb are, in some cases, even worse.

But still—having the United States—especially the current occupant of the White House—enabling Jihad is very bad.

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There is no good reason why the United Nations and other nations can't join (unite) in a serious commitment to end jihadists world wide.
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Well, there are several reasons. The cluelessness and denial that I noted, above, and the fact that all too many members of the UN not only are not apt to resist Jihad, but are *purveyors of Jihad themselves*. The appalling 57-member Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) represents a *huge* voting bloc at the UN.

And even none-Muslim UN countries are often more apt to issue resolutions damning Israel's self-defense against Jihad than they are to resist Jihad themselves.

That doesn't mean that I believe it is impossible for the world to finally get a clue and face the Jihad threat in an organized manner—just that inertia and worse stand in the way.

After all, it took years for the Allies to finally come together against Fascism.

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It should be no surprize that these bombings and murders continue against non-Muslims. But the tip of the sword is not jihad with weapons, but jihad politically and socially in the justice departments and courtrooms world wide. The push for Sharia Law in place of local constitutions is the most dangerous weapon jihadists have.....
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Very, very true.

Even many solid Anti-Jihadists—savvy people who fully recognize the threat of violent Jihad—don't appear to understand what it is ultimately for. Sure—pious Muslims *love* to terrorize and murder Infidels, but the whole purpose of Jihad is the imposition of Muslim rule and Shari'ah law.

And the various methods of 'stealth Jihad' that you note are important tools Jihadists use—"lawfare"; fake "civil rights" cases that establish Shari'ah norms; Da'wa through the prisons, the schools, and the press; and No-Go areas and "street Jihad".

All very, very dangerous.

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