"The sharia does not allow intermingling of men and women at any place"

Note that the liberal Muslims that are "outraged" by this don't have an alternate version of Sharia that allows the intermingling of the sexes. They don't dispute that Sharia forbids this. They just want the rule set aside, for fear of inciting "Islamophobia."

This gives the lie to the common claim by Islamic apologists in the West that Sharia is nothing in particular, so amorphous as to defy characterization: "There's really no such thing as just Sharia, it's not one monolithic Continuum - Sharia is understood in thousands of different ways over the 1,500 years in which multiple and competing schools of law have tried to construct some kind of civic penal and family law code that would abide by Islamic values and principles, it's understood in many different ways..." -- Reza Aslan

"Liberals fume as leading dargahs in Mumbai bar women from sanctum," by Clara Lewis and Mohammed Wajihuddin for TNN, November 5 (thanks to Lachlan):

MUMBAI: One of the features of Sufi shrines is an inclusive approach to devotees. That character is now being turned on its head by Mumbai's iconic dargahs, which have started segregating men and women visitors. Seven dargahs have banned women from entering the astana (sanctum sanctorum, where a saint is buried) and many more are preparing to do so.

The ban has existed for a year at the Haji Ali dargah, which allows women to offer prayers and chaddar from behind a barrier that is four feet from the mazaar (grave), thus preventing them from touching the resting place of the saint.

At the Mahim dargah-the shrine of Makhdoom Shah Baba-the trustees for six months have been "sensitizing" women to the thought that going near the saint's grave is "un-Islamic".

After the dargah's redevelopment, there will be a separate enclosure for women like the one at the Haji Ali shrine, denying them access to the astana. At present, men and women are allowed into the astana in separate batches.

The development at the seven dargahs was brought to light by the advocacy group Bhartiya Muslim Mahila Andolan (BMMA), which recently surveyed 20 dargahs in Mumbai. "Last March, after our conference in Mumbai, our women activists visited the Haji Ali dargah and offered prayers inside the sanctum sanctorum. But this year, during the survey, we were shocked that the dargah had banned women from entering the mazaar," said Noorjehan Safia Niaz, founder member, BMMA.

Sunni and Deobandi clerics support the seven dargahs' decision. "The sharia does not allow intermingling of men and women at any place. The visit of women to graves is forbidden. It is welcome that the dargahs are following this rule," said Maulana Athar Ali, a Sunni cleric. Senior Deobandi cleric Maulana Mahmood Daryabadi echoes this. "They should have done it much earlier. I am glad they are now following a rule sanctioned by the sharia," he said.

But liberal Muslims are outraged. "This is shocking and shameful. This is a regressive step that will further fuel Islamophobia and encourage the detractors of Islam to allege that the religion practices discrimination against women," said Javed Anand of Muslims for Secular Democracy (MSD).

Urdu columnist Hasan Kamaal called the banning of women from astanas "extreme misogyny". "If women and men are allowed to go around the holy Kaaba, and perform haj and umrah (mini-haj) together, why cannot they pray at the dargahs together? It is an insult to the legacy of Sufism, which is moderate and inclusive," said Kamaal.

Dargah trustees are adamant on their decision. Suhail Khandwani, managing trustee of the Mahim dargah and also a trustee at the Haji Ali dargah, said trustees were only following what muftis, or clerics who issue fatwas, have demanded for long. "Muftis have time and again pointed out that Islam does not permit women to visit a cemetery. While we prefer to call dargahs resting places of the saints, they are in fact graves and the sharia does not allow women to visit graves."...

What worries the BMMA is that dargah trustees may not stop with banning women from entering astanas. "They might bar entry for non-Muslims as well, which would damage the secular fabric of the country," said a BMMA member.

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With all the best intentions 'moderate' Muslims try in frustration to explain how benign their religion really is. Of course, they will get nowhere with their attempts to reform or remould Islam, in fact all they are doing is misleading non-Muslims.
Moderates, who are actually false Muslims anyway, would do best to abandon their religion altogether and convert to another, that way they could leave the 'real' Islam to the liars, sociopaths and degenerates.

Agreed, listening to "moderatea" is to be mislead.

As has been offered before, allowing ANY use of islam here is giving islam a foothold, as though we a trying to find a way to make islam work in our country, our laws , and with our way of life.

Simply, it is a lie. It will not, can not exist here, and then live and let live, it must be in control, FULL control.

Every time islam is cut into parts, saying only this, or that "area" of islam is the trouble, this is the foothold it uses to attack, and will use, to gain full control of our country.

Only a complete rejection of the "faith" of the death CULT that is islam is the answer, the ONLY answer that will halt it's advance.

This is not against islam, in the attempt to deform of its ways and texts, that is up to islam and it's followers. But, as it is now followed by "muslims", in it's now understood, current form, it must be rejected and outlawed as the CULT that it is.

When the Nazis were attacked, it all had to be under assult, even the good inside the nazi programs, the bad outways the good.

Same with islam, it must reform on it's own, not while it is trying to gain strength as it hides it's true goal, total control.

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