Wild fight breaks out after "Afghan" women disrupt ceremony honoring Canada's war dead

What do you think would happen to the non-hijabbed woman if she walked around in Kandahar dressed like that? "Wild Video: Fist Fight Breaks Out After Anti-War ‘Afghan’ Women Disrupt Ceremony Honoring Canada’s War Dead," by Jason Howerton at The Blaze, November 13 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

Canadians honored the nation’s 158 soldiers who have died in the Afghanistan war during a remembrance ceremony in downtown Toronto on Sunday. It was not a political event by any stretch of the imagination.

But that didn’t stop two women, who claimed to be “Afghan women,” from screaming at the participants at the ceremony, making known their opposition to Canada’s involvement in the war. The incitement led to a chaotic scene where fists were thrown and police intervention was needed.

“Where’s freedom? All you do is bomb other countries like mine,” one of the women shouts.

“Who’s going to remember the Afghans who were killed in this illegal occupation,” the other woman yells.

A short time later, all hell broke lose. While it’s unclear what started the initial physical altercation, two men can be seen on video throwing punches and wrestling. Neither man was identified so it is uncertain whether one of the men was with the anti-war group.

Police quickly arrived to break up the scuffle and briefly detained the apparent male aggressor. However, they did not end up putting him in handcuffs or arresting him.

Some cross talk — and a lot of obscenities — were exchanged between the anti-war group and others but there didn’t appear to be any further violence.

Our friends Sun News have more details from Canada, including an email from the two female protesters...

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Hey, free nations of the world!

Don't allow these idiots to give you a false impression of Islam. Devout Muslims don't behave in such ways. Just put out the welcome mat, open your doors wider, and let them all in.

You'll see.

PGuud

Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

Defacing war memorials, disrupting Remembrance Day ceremonies......who let these savages into my beautiful country? And why?

Today in Toronto, Canada's largest city, and the hub of Canada's economy, whites are in the minority. This has happened, slowly, stealthily, over the past 40 years. What a sad statistic.

Loudmouth jihad is valid...The girls get brownie points with Allah for that...When people act like that around here, they get arrested for 'drunk in public'...

Hey ladies! Maybe the application of more Islam will fix the problems in your beloved Islamic homeland of Afghanistan!

Ya think?

>>>>>

Should Women Respect Muhammad and His Islam?

Muslims love to claim that Islam has granted women equal rights. Sadly, this is not true. The Qur'an states several times that women are to be granted less rights then those enjoyed by men.

This article will examine the status of women and their rights according to Islam, as well as some of the many disgusting things that Muhammad said regarding women.

The inherent oppression and degradation of women in Islam is abhorrent. For every good thing Muhammad’s Islam says about women, one can easily find a passage referring to women in the most unkindly of lights. Such is the reality of the fundamentally contradictory religion of Islam. One minute Islam is the perfect religion of peace and justice - the next it commands Muslims to maim, murder and subjugate others. Muslim women should learn the truth about Islam, and fast, if they truly care about their daughters and the future of women in general.

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In controversial verse 4:34 of the Qur'an, men are told to beat their disobedient wives after first warning them and then sending them to sleep in separate beds. This horrendous verse approves of and even sanctions, domestic abuse. As we shall see momentarily, Islamic theology also permits slavery and rape. No person of sound mind and good heart could believe that this is the wish of god. Islam is nothing more than the cult of a long dead, selfish little mad man named Muhammad ibn Abdullah.

Qur'an, 4:34

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme.

Here is an examination of how other translators render this controversial passage:

Pickthall: "and scourge them"
Yusuf Ali: "(And last) beat them (lightly)"
Al-Hilali/Khan: "(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)"
Shakir: "and beat them"
Sher Ali: "and chastise them"
Khalifa: "then you may (as a last alternative) beat them"
Arberry: "and beat them"
Rodwell: "and scourge them"
Sale: "and chastise them"
Asad: "then beat them"

Hadith, Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Number 2142:

Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

The Qur'an permits men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls if they want to do so:

004:003 "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice"

According to Muhammad and his Islam, a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man’s:

002:282 "Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her"

The Qur'an allows men to marry pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated.

065.004
YUSUFALI: Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

PICKTHAL: And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.

SHAKIR: And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Muhammad said that women are deficient in intelligence and religion and than they make up the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire.

Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 1, Book 6, No. 301:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

Muhammad was a deranged con man who has betrayed women. Muhammad has betrayed all of mankind, in fact. Here is some more of what Muhammad said and did:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 460:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

"By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel's saddle." -- Ibn Majah 1854

She is a Muslim supremacist, dedicated to insulting her host country, Canada.

Clearly, she should be encouraged to go to live in her beloved Afghanistan. Unfortunately, due to utterly lax immigration 'policy,' so many other Islamic hostiles have been allowed into the West.

“Where’s freedom? All you do is bomb other countries like mine,” one of the women shouts.

Then what are you doing HERE? Why aren't you in your OWN country, if you love it so much?

reply to PMK----THERE IT IS! America the country "they" LOVE (to HATE). GO HOME. I agree, thanks,and thanks to R.S. THE MAN

mean while the Talibans(afghans) are murdering other afghans to the tune of thousands. what a D...bag.
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Robert,

She is about as innocent as all the "hijab people" who shined laser lights into pilots landing in TX airports, a few years ago, in the hopes of killing the Bushes.

This little fun activity continues today ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174983/JetBlue-pilots-eye-damaged-laser-attack-plane-landing-JFK.html

Look at that story!

Aviation experts say the attacks are far from harmless pranks -- they can potentially blind pilots as they land.

In 2005, the first year the Federal Aviation Administration began tracking the attacks, there were just 289 recording a 12-fold increase in just six years.

Wonder if those little "hijab people" are at it again.

The whole incident appeared to be staged ...

"who let these savages into my beautiful country? And why?"

We did.
Great civilizations don't die, they commit suicide.
We're killing our own babies.. free choice, right?
We are responsible, and we deserve it.


Neither of these women has ethnic Afghan features - one appears caucasian and the other hispanic or negroid, perhaps infonesian - hence converts to islam but who claim Afgahistan, rather than Canada, as "our country", Where have I heard that one before? In my 69 years I have never hit a woman. These 2 would have made me deliver the killer blow and without sorrow. Much better though I'd have deported them to "our country"- afghanistan. Far better punishment

Islam means dictatorship, violence, war. See

Quoting Islam

Traeh,

Another very interesting, relevant, and informative link.

As usual!

Thank you.

This is just an anti-war protest, nothing to do with Islam.

I am against Islam but I am also against war especially in Afghanistan and the one we had in Iraq. If we are to believe the official story that we were told about 9/11, then we should be attacking Saudi Arabia instead of having them as our trusted partners and allies.

"Neither of these women has ethnic Afghan features - one appears caucasian and the other hispanic or negroid, perhaps infonesian..."

As with the blond Palestinian gal, in the other video, there is confusion about 'race,' here. There is no such a thing as an 'Afghan' ethnicity. Some Afghans are fair-skinned, with hazel, or blue eyes. Others (Uzbeks, etc.) look more East Asian, South Asian (Pashtuns), and so forth. The country of Afghanistan, just like other parts of Central Asia, never had an ethnically coherent population.

And SOMEBODY defaced a war memorial, in Canada:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/13/canada-will-burn-praise-allah-vandals-deface-toronto-war-memorial-on-remembrance-day/

Of course, the usual progressive apologists are trying to frame this as some sort of inflammatory set up.

Where's the freedom? Right on the corner screaming obsenities...They should go to Afghanistan and try to use some Islamic freedom entitled to Afghanistan women....

Dear Jihad Watch:

Years ago I remember Mavis Leno; the wife of TV personality and stand-up comic Jay Leno speaking about her Feminist Majority charity and the group's attempt to help the women in Afghanistan. I was horrified of the status of women there. Every basic aspect of human dignity- protection from domestic violence and rape, access to education and healthcare, the ability to practice a profession, being virtual prisoners in their own homes... was so brutal and cruel.

However, welcome to the reality of Islamic woman hatred and oppression. Honor killings, facial disfigurement as punishment for defying sharia, being stoned to death... Islam's "gift to women" was active in Afghanistan.

The military presence in Afghanistan by the coalition forces, and the Western civilian aid organizations that followed them have finally given women in Taliban-Land opportunities that have been out-of-reach for decades. Also, the presence of the West has made it easier for countless Afghanis to then be immigrants in foreign lands including Canada.

If those young women protestors are geniune Afghani ethnicity then they are in Canada probably as the result of the military intervention which allowed them to become refugees and thus begin new lives in Canada.
Lives that even today is incomprehensible to most Afghani muslim women today.

This vile behavior by these women is so typical of Islamadoodles. Had Canadian (and other coalition forces)not intervened in Afghanistan, these women could very well be dressed in rags, confined to a mud hut (surrounded by flies), no modern conveniences, going hungry, receiving NO education or healthcare, possibly sporting hideous disfigurements from acid-in-the-face attacks, not to mention lucky-to-be-alive-and-survive genital mutilation-infections, not to mention gang rapes, etc, etc.

Yet their appearance at this event was not to show appreciation for Canada, but to slander it and its military heroes?

Canadians need to petition their government for a change in immigration laws... and send these monsters back to Afghanistan if they think Canada is such a horrible place to be.

As for the posts to this article- thank you guys I have learned a lot more about passages from the Koran that mention their treatment of women. Mr. Spencer and his readers are keeping the world informed. Thanks guys and gals!

Dear Jihad Watch readers:

Ooops! Made a very bad error in my post above. When I refer to the following in the first paragraph...

"Every basic aspect of human dignity- protection from domestic violence and rape, access to education and healthcare, the ability to practice a profession..."

"...was so brutal and cruel."

I left out the rest of my comment that it IS THE LACK OF... protection from domestic violence and rape... THE LACK OF education and healthcare... and THE INABILITY to practice a profession..." is what is so brutal and cruel.

As long as I am posting again on this topic... these women Islamists oppose the Canadian military presence which has allowed them to live in a prosperous free Canada. The same military that has allowed women in Afghanistan to experience lives with some dignity for the first time in decades and for the younger women and girls; for the first time in their entire lives.

The Canadian public need to demand why their media didn't take these women to task. Why is no one asking these women to explain how come the lives of Afghan women are useless? If you are against the coalition forces and their humanitarian aid to Afghan women and girls; building schools for girls, allowing access to doctors and health care, etc. Then you are by default pro-Taliban. For these protestors to say they are against the Canadian military and for human rights... then what is the "humanitarian", "right" or "moral" with young women like themselves with no chance of freedom, living a prosperous lifestyle or being anythiing other than a 4th class sharia sanctioned citizen, no more than chattel.

Why is no one demanding these women explain this.

And finally, the OTHER 800lb gorilla in the room. The man recording the incident is the only one confronted by the authorities? Welcome to Orwell world in the Land of the Maple Leaf!


“Where’s freedom? All you do is bomb other countries like mine,” one of the women shouts.

Come again? Which country are you in, lady? Canada, or Afghanistan? Are you here permanently, or do you plan to return to your pesthole? And, well, if those "other countries" stopped declaring war against the West, maybe they wouldn't be bombed.

Or is this too logical for your addled brain to digest?

What these two women overlook is that nobody would be in Afghanistan today if the Taliban government hadn't given refuge to al-Qaeda, the group responsible for the unprovoked attack on the US, September 11, 2001. I don't blame them if they overlook that small fact. But I do blame and hold responsible every Westerner who does forget it. And that goes double for politicians.

"As with the blond Palestinian gal, in the other video, there is confusion about 'race,' here. There is no such a thing as an 'Afghan' ethnicity. Some Afghans are fair-skinned, with hazel, or blue eyes. Others (Uzbeks, etc.) look more East Asian, South Asian (Pashtuns), and so forth. The country of Afghanistan, just like other parts of Central Asia, never had an ethnically coherent population."

Sounds like you could work for airport profiling, since you seem to know all about the different peoples of Afghanistan (and, I suspect, about every other Muslim country one could name), by which you could helpfully identify what would far more likely be a Muslim than the methodology we have now, randomly searching people even Norwegian nuns, redheaded octogenarians, white children who look like they walked out of a Norman Rockwell painting, guys who look like Conan O'Brien; etc. Too bad your ideology prevents talented people like you from doing something worthwhile with your time.

Foolish as the poster is, there is something in what he says.

Nearly all ethnicities featured in dar al Islam are also represented by, or visibly similar to, ethnicities found in dar al Harb. Muslims of Indian ethnicity share basic physical form and colouring with non-Muslim Indians; Arab Muslims can pass as Jews if they wish (and vice versa, as demonstrated by that intrepid Arabic-fluent Israeli Jewish documentary maker who tooled around the Muslim colonies in Europe recently, pretending to be a 'Palestinian' Arab Muslim..he got away with it, too, and garnered an enormous amount of very disturbing footage).

The only way to reliably recognise someone as a Muslim at a distance with a passing glance and without speaking to them or seeing their documentation, is if they are wearing some variety of the official Muslim 'uniform'. Because although Muslims may pose as non-Muslims (and in India, a Muslim woman to get employment in a Hindu institution such as a nursery will pose as a Hindu and wear full Hindu religious garb) the reverse usually doesn't happen, so far as I know.

Wherever you see a female in the Slave Rag (which is fairly distinctive, even in its least obviously offensive headscarf form), you can be 90 percent sure that the man with her is Mohammedan, whether he's in western dress and cleanshaven, or bearded and/or robed and/ or kufi'd/ turbanned/ fezzed. And if there's no Muslim male in evidence, you can still safely conclude that there is one somewhere, and that he is strongly sharia-minded.

If they are *not* wearing 'uniform', then by merely looking at them in a public place such as an airport terminal or shopping centre, I don't see how you can tell.

Persons of obvious Nordic ancestry are less likely to be Muslim than most anyone else...but even that is becoming less reliable, given the likes of the fair-haired Boyd family convert-to-Islam jihad plotters, who seem to be becoming more common. And there is always such a thing as hair-dye, and shaving off the beard, for Muslims who wish to 'blend in'.

In Australia, a black African seen in the street , *unless* wearing Mohammedan cult uniform, is at present statistically more likely to be a Sudanese Christian than a Sudanese Muslim: the proportion of Christians among the refugees we've taken in, is a good deal higher than the proportion of Muslims, last time I looked at the official figures (and you will find the black Sudanese in many an Australian church on Sunday, whether Catholic, Anglican or pentecostal/ charismatic/ Church of Christ/ Baptist).

Even the 'white' population in most Western countries is not uniformly 'white'. (I'd say that the majority of Australians are not blonde with blue eyes. Most of my own kin are brunettes; two of my children are *very* dark brunettes though two are light-eyed with sandy-brown hair.) I have relatives, within my extended family, whose ancestry is basically and fully-documented Scots. Yet you could have picked up my father's mother - small, black-haired, black-eyed, olive skin, strong-featured - and dropped her down (in local dress) in Jerusalem, in Madrid, or in Kashmir, and until she opened her mouth and the good broad Scots came out, she could have passed indistinguishably for one of the locals. Most of her eight sibs were similar; and their children, as well. One of her nieces - who can trace her family background back, documented, at least five generations within Scotland, Presbyterian to the backbone - had terrible problems visiting the old Soviet Union as a tourist, back in the day: at first, they were absolutely convinced that she must be an Arab on jihad bent! (She did manage to convince them otherwise, eventually). One of my own sisters, who also takes after that side of the family, once visited India: she blended in perfectly as soon as she put on a sari or a salwar kameez; until she started speaking, people assumed that with her features and colouring she was Kashmiri, or from the Punjab.


Basically, if the person isn't wearing the cult 'uniform', one can only go by demeanour/ behaviour (which will pick up *any* dangerous 'loose cannon' whether Muslim or not) and (if official, such as at an airline security check) background information, rigorously cross-checked.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/15/60II/main324476.shtml
TEL AVIV, Aug. 21, 2002
The Safest Airline
A Secure Example Set By Israel's El Al


http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744426--what-israel-can-teach-us-about-security
What Israel can teach us about security
At Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv, screening is done in 30 minutes. The key? Look passengers in the eye

dumbledoresarmy,

"Foolish as the poster is, there is something in what he says.

Nearly all ethnicities featured in dar al Islam are also represented by, or visibly similar to, ethnicities found in dar al Harb."

Sure, the variety exists among Muslim peoples; but not nearly to a degree to make them anywhere close to being indistinguishable -- for profiling purposes -- from the non-Muslim West.

Unless one feels obliged to assume that we have no other choice than that Muslims profiling either 1) must be perfect; or 2) it's impossible. I prefer to think there's a third choice, one that could minimize -- not eliminate -- the danger posed by innumerable millions of Muslims in the coming decades roiling around from airport to airport and seaport to seaport all over the globe and throughout our societies.


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