Australia: "Very religious" Muslim stabs his brother for insulting Muhammad

Islam mandates death for non-Muslim subjects of the Islamic state who mention "something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam" ('Umdat al-Salik, o11.10), and such laws go back to passages in the Hadith and Sira in which Muhammad orders the murders of people who have insulted him, including Abu ‘Afak, who was over one hundred years old, and the poetess ‘Asma bint Marwan. Abu ‘Afak was killed in his sleep, in response to Muhammad's question, “Who will avenge me on this scoundrel?” Similarly, Muhammad on another occasion cried out, “Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan?” One of his followers, ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adi, went to her house that night, where he found her sleeping next to her children. The youngest, a nursing babe, was in her arms. But that didn’t stop ‘Umayr from murdering her and the baby as well. Muhammad commended him: “You have done a great service to Allah and His Messenger, ‘Umayr!” (Ibn Ishaq, 674-676)

Then there was Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf. Muhammad asked: "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" One of the Muslims, Muhammad bin Maslama answered, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" When Muhammad said that he would, Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab)." Muhammad responded: "You may say it." Muhammad bin Maslama duly lied to Ka'b, luring him into his trap, and murdered him. (Bukhari 5.59.369)

"Man allegedly stabbed over prophet insult," by Lauren Turner for AAP, December 3 (thanks to Lachlan):

A YOUNG man tried to stab his brother to death for insulting a Muslim prophet, a court has heard.

Safaa Allami, 22, is accused of attempting to murder his older brother Ali Allami during a row at their Cloverdale home in Perth's eastern suburbs.

Ali Allami was rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries, prosecutor Nicholas Cogin said.

It is claimed he was stabbed seven times in the chest, back and flank, suffering a pierced liver and kidney that could have cost him his life.

A Supreme Court jury heard on Monday that Safaa Allami left the family home shortly after the stabbing on October 12, 2010, before police arrived.

Mr Cogin said he went to the home of his friend Elyas Ali, his clothes stained with his brother's blood, and was recorded confessing to the crime later that day.
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Safaa Allami, who was born in Iraq and denies he attempted to kill his brother, then tried to make a getaway and bought a ticket to Brisbane the following day, the jury was told.

"The state says that Safaa Allami is a very religious man, but his brother wasn't, and that his brother defamed the prophet," Mr Cogin told the court.

"As a result of that, that was the final straw that caused Safaa Allami to stab his brother."

During the recorded admission made to Mr Ali, Safaa Allami is alleged to have said he "would do it again" if the opportunity arose, the court was told....

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you mean their own flesh and blood!!! No!
m

Article:

"A YOUNG man tried to stab his brother to death for insulting a Muslim prophet, a court has heard."
_________

I think I just saw a pig fly by my window...

"...for insulting a Muslim prophet,..."
______________________________________

It's not the whole nine yards, but at least the indefinite article found its way into the, well, "article".
______________

I am expecting sun spots to appear later in the day.

Yes, most certainly, Miriam.

Leon Uris ('The Haj')-

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life.
It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father;
my family against my cousins and the clan;
the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world
and all of us against the infidel"

As a Muslim your sole allegiance is to Allah and his Prophet, as the quote demonstrates. If Allah wills it you must murder anyone He demands.

Will we see the outcome of the trial?
100 hours of Community Service would show him!!
Maybe not- that would be Islamophobia and Racism...

According to Muhammad's teachings, Safaa Allami has done nothing wrong. On the contrary, he behaved like every True Muslim should, he behaved like a Mohammedan, like a true follower of Muhammad, like the vermin Muhammad was, like the vermin he is.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2012/03/assassin-english.html

Check out:

"Akbar(1542-1605),the Greatest Mughal Emperor of India,Apostate of Islam and Founder of a New Religion"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/05/14/akbar1542-1605the-greatest-mughal-emperor-of-indiaapostate-of-islam-and-founder-of-a-new-religion/

AND ALSO

"About Saparmurat Niyazov(1940-2006),the Turkmen and Muslim President who wrote a Book that he said was the Equal of the Koran"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/09/27/about-saparmurat-niyazov1940-2006the-turkmen-and-muslim-president-who-wrote-a-book-that-he-said-was-the-equal-of-the-koran/

Australia: "Very religious" Muslim stabs his brother for insulting Muhammad

"The state says that Safaa Allami is a very religious man, but his brother wasn't, and that his brother defamed the prophet," Mr Cogin told the court.

"As a result of that, that was the final straw that caused Safaa Allami to stab his brother."
.............................

"The final straw"—does that mean that the pious Safaa Allami had come close to stabbing his brother to death *before this*? Almost certainly...

More:

During the recorded admission made to Mr Ali, Safaa Allami is alleged to have said he "would do it again" if the opportunity arose, the court was told....
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How many "Honor Killers" say this? Almost all of them. And why not? These are not killings done in some momentary fit of pique, but are instead very much in line with the appalling tenets of Islam.

Mr. Spencer has cited many texts of Islam supporting the idea of murdering anyone who dares insult the "Prophet".

Here is a Hadith that also praises the idea of fratricide under Islam (it also includes some murderous Jew hatred, as well):

“Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’”
Ishaq:369

The brother, insanely, then immediately converts to Islam. Far from being horrified that his own brother would have killed him if Muhammed had ordered it, he *takes this as a sign of the power of Islam*.

No doubt this is also how the devout Safaa Allami regards the situation.

Islam comes before ties of family—and before love, decency, and sanity, as well.

Safaa Allami is a Mahometan Saint and he ought to be blessed with that designation for he is the a Mahometan who most faithfully actualises the commands of Allah as recorded in the Koran and it is he who most faithfully imitates the "perfect man," Mahomet.

It is time we accorded the faithful men the descriptive, Saint, for, far from being a misunderstander or a hijacker off that religion of peace, men like Safaa are the most faithful of Mahometans.

Saint Safaa; just doing what Mahometan Saints do....

This clearly illustrates that even the caliphate will not be peaceful.

Islam is incompatible with peace, productivity, fairness, and rationality. Why do we tolerate it in our countries?

Just another clear-cut case in which the victim is obviously repsonsible. I mean, did he think he could just run around blaspheming the profit
(poo be upon him)? Ohhh, he thought he was safe because it was his own brother? He won't make that mistake again! If he recovers, that is...

George: Off all people here I did not expect you to drive me into drinking more scotch!!! Please you mean : may shit be upon his face, Right George? Please say so or else my liver is going to get shot!!!!!
M

You wrote - "Will we see the outcome of the trial?
100 hours of Community Service would show him!! "

I think he'll get more than that, in Australia.

We're not as far down the road to dhimmitude as the UK has gone.

Me, however, if it was up to me, he'd be stripped of his Aussie citizenship papers and packed onto a plane back to Iraq on a one-way ticket; never to be permitted to place so much as a toe over the borders of any non-Muslim land, ever again.

(And to make sure of that, every possible identifying detail, up to and including voiceprint, retina scan and dna sample would be placed on record, and circulated to the gatekeepers of other non-Muslim countries, with instructions that this bloke is NOT to be permitted through the gates and should be arrested and evicted back to dar al Islam if so be he managed to sneak in illegally).

if he would kill his own brother for supposedly insulting the so-called prophet, then he is *also* a menace to every *non-Muslim* person in Australia who may happen to 'insult' Mohammed the Mad by describing him in any number of perfectly true and accurate ways.

Looks like all Aussies here at jihadwatch had better write to the Immigration minister inquiring why the HELL we are admitting Muslim 'refugees' and 'immigrants' into Australia, when the orthodox rules of their cult plainly *require* and *command* them to behave in this abominable manner...not only to one another, as demonstrated by this case, but also to anybody and everybody else whom they imagine or deem or (sometimes) may falsely claim has 'insulted' Mohammed/ Allah/ 'Islam'/ Muslims.

And asking, specifically, that as a minimal precaution for the safety of non-Muslim Australian citizens, Mr Safaa Allami should be deported back to Iraq, sans Aussie citizenship or residency, the moment his sentence - whatever it is - is served.


Miriam, you rascal!

How can I live with the knowledge that I've driven you to drink to excess?? But, but...
it's 'PBUH" so I had to use a 'P' word! OK, how about "Piss Be Upon Him?" Does that help?
I was trying to be nice--but I now defer to the interests of your health, my friend!

G

George: Much better!!!!! Excellent!!! Hope you are well. Otherwise my live is going to become an Sponge!!!!!!
M

"Muslim stabs his brother for insulting Muhammad"---

But remember! don't call them savages, call them "peaceful members of the peaceful religion of peace".

A bit more information in these two earlier reports, that came out in September.

There's the suggestion that the brother who was stabbed may have been involved in organised crime (surprise, surprise!); he has seemingly changed his story to try to get his murderous bruvva off the hook (again this is totally unsurprising; think of girls and women who've survived attempted 'honor' murders changing their stories and lying to protect the perp; question); and ASIO had been tracking them, or at least one of them.

From September 6, mention of ASIO:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/14766715/asio-embroiled-in-stab-trial/


ASIO embroiled in stab trial

"...four discs containing intercepted calls and documents with more than 50 pages of information recorded in 2009 and 2010 were disclosed."

The attempted murder occurred in October 2010, so it seems that the brothers, or one of them at least, was being tracked by ASIO *prior* to that time.

From September 13:


http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/stabbed-sibling-to-defend-brother-20120913-25uhz.html

Stabbed sibling to defend brother.

A bit more detail about the attack, which was not a hand to hand fight, seemingly, in the course of an argument, but seemingly a sneak attack, like the assassination of Asma bint Marwan:

"It was alleged about midnight on October 12, 2010, Mr Allami stabbed his brother, Ali, as he was sleeping at his Cloverdale home."


another episode for katie couric's "tv show like the huxtables so that people like moslems better".....she got the idiot award in journalism for that.

another episode for katie couric's "tv show like the huxtables so that people like moslems better".....she got the idiot award in journalism for that.

Guy Macher wrote:

This clearly illustrates that even the caliphate will not be peaceful.
.........................

So true, Guy.

Muslims imply to Infidels if only everyone converted to Islam that the whole would be one big love fest.

But, really, *nothing* is bloodier than a completely Islamic society.

Consider Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia—where Muslims slaughter other-sect Muslims, "disobedient" women, any apostate who dares raise his head, and vast numbers of victims deemed "insufficiently Islamic".

**Ugh**.

Georgio, Georgio, Georgio...

Where have you been, my boy?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.
_____________

Still love you though, man.


D

devout muslim = deadly

devout muslim = deadly muslim

George and miriam both:

Guys, the best "P" word to use in that phrase is "pig$hit". At least, that's always been my favorite and the one I use most often.

Love ya both . . .

This story, and the one from this week of the Muslim in Israel who murdered his 15-year-old sister for "honor", puts me in mind of Liberated One and her river in Egypt. It's not as if at the time (and it wasn't that long ago), when those of us chided LO for being way too naive about her own family, there hadn't already amassed over the years, decades, generations, centuries, a veritable mountain of evidence showing that such naivete is not only dangerous for the naif, but also -- to the extent she has public influence on how the danger of Islam is perceived (particularly influential, ostensibly, as the street cred of an ex-Muslim who has lived her whole life in a Muslim country with a Muslim family) -- for us.

On page 369 (554 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, a Muslim says he would cut off his brother's head if Muhammad told him to do so

It's a "charming" story of two brothers, Muhayyissa and Huwayyisa: (To avoid confusing the two brothers, keep in mind that the brother whose name begins with M is the Murderer in the story.)

"The apostle [Muhammad] said, ‘Kill any Jew that falls into your power.Thereupon Muhayyisa bin Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jewish merchant] Huwayyisa began to beat [his brother Muhayyisa], saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'...[Huwayyisa] replied, 'By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?' [Muhayyisa] said, 'Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.' [Huwayyisa] exclaimed, "By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!' and [Huwayyisa] became a Muslim."

Muhammad says there is to be no punishment for murdering someone who insults him

From Sunan Abu-Dawud, a canonical hadith collection:
Book 38, Number 4348:

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

A blind man had a slave-mother [a slave who bore children for him] who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He [the blind man] forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he [the blind man] took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.

He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.

He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.

Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

Another canonical hadith:

Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 38, Number 4349:

Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:

A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.

-- Quoting Islam

Rather like Muhayissa fulfilling the promise he made to his brother Huwayissa - if my prophet orders me to kill you, I would do so without hesitation.

Exactly, Sanjay_111, both the passage from Muhammad's biography, and the news story, show brother without hesitation killing (or trying to kill) brother, at the behest of Muhammad.

This is insane ...especially since muhammad never gave a rats ass about anyone but himself. Defending muhammad, or having so much as one kind thought towards this wicked man, is the height of evil. He isn't worth it. Rot in hell, you pos.

Traeh wrote:

It's a "charming" story of two brothers, Muhayyissa and Huwayyisa...
............................

Traeh, that's the same appalling story I cited.

So I see. A slightly different translation, looks like.

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