Greetings to Robert Spencer from a new convert to Islam: "may the curse of god be on you and you die a slow and painful death"

As time goes on, I am convinced Islam will attract more and more nominal atheists and self-described nonreligious people because (1) it condones the violence many of these people already have in their hearts but aren't fully free to express (the target of their violence doesn't matter - they just long to cut loose with it), and (2) it's simple to get by in Islam just going through the motions of external rituals and works, and saying all the "right" things, all the while harboring and nurturing every same old vile wickedness in your heart.

I believe we'll be seeing this phenomenon more and more in Europe, where people have been left empty and without purpose by decades of ubiquitous hatred for all things Christian (whether they actually were or not). As the economies of Europe slide further, they'll want to cling to something. Islam is right there, waiting to turn their fear, confusion and hatreds any direction it chooses.

Like e.g. crucify according to the sadist Allah:

EVIL Quran 5:33 "… crucifixion who made mischief (trouble)"

... and in the Hereafter the evil punishmet for the brave hero Robert Spencer goes on forever:

e.g. 4:56 "Those who reject Our Signs (i.e. Quran), We shall soon cast into the Fire; as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the Penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise."

http://schnellmann.org/kuffar-crucifixion-to-quran.html
(graphic video)

Allah appeals to the mentally fragmented...

Michael didn't learn to be a jerk from Islam...He had a degree in jerkism way before he converted...Pre-conversion he was not qualified to make jihadi threats and wishes for painful death, remarks in Allah's name...Now that he is fully qualified to speak for the 'Religion of Peace', he takes full advantage of his new found, and religiously cool, ability to make threats and ill wishes in the name of Allah...He is on his way to being a really good Mahoundian...If he keeps it up, Allah will give him a promotion and a 'special' vest...Ain't Islam grand...

Right from the City of London, Cheapside area.

For any and all threatened by dirtbags, some thoughts:

http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2009/10/this-all-assumes-you-live-in-the-city-you-probably-know-most-of-this-stuff-alreadystart-at-the-curb-going-in----if-you.html

And Merry Christmas to all of you.

You know what really gets to me about these violent Muslims who send threatening emails, post comments on YouTube, etc.?

1) They are illiterate. I can't tell you how many threats I've read that are written this way, or worse!

2) The level profanity/vulgar talk. This one shocks me. These people are supposedly fighting for their religion, and yet their god approves of them using such filthy language?

Has this point ever been discussed anywhere? It seems to me that this should be addressed. What does Islam teach about this, if anything?

sad,this mental midget needs to try a new vocabulary.i guess the truth about islam
has struck a nerve.robert,keep telling the truth
as you have.people are listening.may you and jw
readers all over the world have a blessed christmas and a happy new year.may the forces of evil recede from this planet in the coming year.

Mo,

As far as I know, Islam either doesn't say much at all about what you point out or it's simply tolerated/overlooked for the good of jihad.

This much I do know: true personal holiness has never been something that attracts people to Islam because Islam makes provision for indwelling sin - only its external fruits (in that, it has much in common with today's corrupted, apostatized Christendom).

It is an undisputed fact of history that despite their religious trappings Muslims are among the most heathenish, unrestrained people on the planet. They behave as literal pigs. Incidentally, I suspect this is why so many homosexuals in the West, who are under no direct threat of Islam at present, are so tolerant of what they know Muslims do to sodomites under Muslim rule...the west's sodomites secretly long to submit to Islam's allowance of sodomy as long as it's kept under wraps, so a few of their number being hanged for appearances sake now and then is, to them, worth the price of the eventual sodomistic Caliphate. For this reason, I think we'll also see many homosexuals "convert" to Islam within the next few decades.

Whatever the average Muslim might know about the biblical concept of personal holiness, it is probably viewed with contempt either because it contradicts their current Islamic license to fornicate, rape, steal, destroy and murder, or they simply view it as a sign of weakness to be eradicated.

Next to leftism, Islam the purest form of delusional mass psychosis in the modern world, and in our worsening social climates, its numbers can only grow.

"Most atheists are far to bright (pun intended) to fall for that rubbish."

Let me clarify. I'm not talking about the relatively tiny, adamant minority like Richard Dawkins. I said *nominal* atheists, which to me means basically the same as merely nonreligious people who do not necessarily consider themselves atheistic but live pretty much as if they were. They have no sense of spirituality per se and no sense of meaning...and they're okay with that as long as things are going well. But before too long, THESE people will be longing for something - anything - of apparent stability and transcendence to give meaning to the chaos that's going to erupt around them. In Europe, Christianity is already excluded a priori. Statism won't work because it's failing and is precisely the reason for their problems. Eastern religions have been dabbled with but are without substance.

All that's left is the (perceived) rock-hard certainty and order provided by Islam. When all else collapses, they'll flock to it in numbers that will probably stagger both of us.

Another total (and only semi-literate) loser has become a slave of Allah. Nothing new here.

islam attracts liars and the lowest of the low, doesn't it? ...and keep up the good work Robert by presenting the truth about islam & company!

A slow and painful death?

Hmm...like this one?

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
(Bukhari 5.59.713)

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/03/muhammads-death.html

With regard to Islam attracting the disaffected, How can heterosexual males for relationships with liberal women today? With feminism, a heterosexual Western male is defacto are out casted. There is more potential for them to find respectful and agreeable mates once converted. And liberal women, they vote democrat do that the enemy will win. It's sexual, they are attracted to the more rapine. The neo Western male cannot even stand up to their derangement, but the Muslim male can. Western society now hates the world and any kind of reality. Silly conservatives deny this, but Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, and it has not even begun to gain its momentum and they are going to win.

threats are the first thing that converts learn
m

If you think Muslims are benign - think once again - this is what you will vote for the future in your neck of the woods -

http://vimeo.com/47539935

"the curse of god..." etc.

No need to fear a god or gods. There are plenty of gods to go around. Allah is one of any number of gods men worship.

Robert, a Merry Christmas to you, even if my credal commitments make the holiday adiaphoric at best. Keep up the good work, and don't be discouraged in the face of fools like this person "Michael". Then again, those of us who've been here a while know that you won't be.

And I'm sure you note that while Jesus Christ is body and soul in heaven, from whence he will return again to judge the quick and the dead, Muhammad lies in the sand of Medina awaiting that day of judgment.

slow and painful death? Ironic isnt it? Islam is painful and slow death. he has yet to learn it.
m

Merry Christmas, dear Robert and Hashem will bless you, no doubt about that. No matter what the stupid mahoundians say. All the best to you and your loved ones.

To check the score - I looked at this site:
http://pa.newham.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=neighbourComments&keyVal=M07PA5JY01R00&neighbourCommentsPager.page=1

This is about a petition in the London, UK to build a Mega-Mosque in a run down region. I checked the name of each Yeh and Na 'makers'. Each supporter is a Muslim without an exception. There was one Muslim who was a Na 'maker' and his comments were repeated from word to word under a different name also a Na 'maker'.

Every Muslim supported the project and each normal person objected the project.

Conclusion: It is very difficult to trust a Muslim

The concept of "indwelling sin" is predicated on a literal interpretation of the story of "the fall" in the book of Genesis. You are saying that Adam and Eve really existed.

I too think the wave of people converting to Islam has just barely begun. For now it's the loonies and the vicious, and some dopes who actually think there is something "spiritual" about Islam. But later there will be others whose job prospects might be enhanced by converting, who fall in love with Muslim girls, then those who think Islam is a winner, and atheists who are only atheist because they hate Christianity but who might find Islam robust and masculine enough for their liking. Then there are the "first peoples" who will be attracted by its victim and revenge mentality. Then the usual sheep.

For the rest of us, forced dhimmitude is our future, if our governments continue to be so damned bipartisan about immigration and PC and bowing and scraping before Muslims at home and abroad.

I get furious when people who I am trying to educate about Islam tell me that I am interested in it because I secretly want to convert. How could they get such an idea after what I tell them about it? It's a worry; I think it is because they are themselves becoming Islamised - accepting of halal food taxes, sharia finance, restrictions on free speech, the Palestinian propaganda, and much more.

There is a little bit I cut out of a newspaper article, an interview, and the interviewee quotes someone saying "If you live by an outmoded code of ethics, people take you to be a fool."

Merry Christmas all, from a "fool"!

Fifty-seven Muslim majority countries have an average of ten universities each for a total of less than 600 universities for 1.4 billion people; India has 8,407 universities, the U.S. has 5,758. From within 1.4 billion Muslims Abdus Salam and Ahmed Zewail are the only two Muslim men who won a Nobel Prize in physics and chemistry (Salam pursued his scientific work in Italy and the UK, Zewail at California Institute of Technology). Dr Salam in his home country is not even considered a Muslim.
Over the past 105 years, 1.4 billion Muslims have produced eight Nobel Laureates while a mere 14 million Jews have produced 167 Nobel Laureates. Of the 1.4 billion Muslims less than 300,000 qualify as ‘scientists’, and that converts to a ratio of 230 scientists per one million Muslims. The United States of America has 1.1 million scientists (4,099 per million); Japan has 700,000 (5,095 per million).
Fact: Of the 1.4 billion Muslims 800 million are illiterate (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). In Christendom, adult literacy rate stands at 78 percent.
Consider, for instance, that Muslims constitute 22 percent of world population with a 1 percent share of Nobel Prizes. Jews constitute 0.23 percent of world population with a 22 percent share of Nobel Prizes.

The combined annual GDP of 57 Muslim countries remains under $2 trillion. America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. Even India’s GDP is estimated at over $3 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).
Oil rich Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $430 billion; Netherlands alone has a higher annual GDP while Buddhist Thailand produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Interesting paratopical discussion above:

Author Profile Page No Fear replied to comment from eromnodd | December 24, 2012 2:03 PM | Reply

The concept of "indwelling sin" is predicated on a literal interpretation of the story of "the fall" in the book of Genesis. You are saying that Adam and Eve really existed.

Author Profile Page Tom Billesley replied to comment from No Fear | December 24, 2012 3:46 PM | Reply

That "fall" stuff is original sin. Indwelling sin is a different doctrine.

I was kind of lazy this past October & November and didn't get around to raking the yard, and as winter has not brought any snow yet to my area, I still have a lot of "fall" stuff that piled up.

Also, when I go to the supermarket (or the PC MC Whole Foods store) shopping for food, and if I'm ever concerned about what I'm buying, one handy thing to do is look past the label on the box or bag, and take a gander at what is called the ingredients. If you're trying to avoid something -- like gluten -- or, alternatively, if you want to make sure you're getting what is advertised (like actual maple syrup rather than a brown gooey concoction of water, food coloring and corn syrup) -- then the list of ingredients will help; but often the label is not only unhelpful, but might be even misleading.

So it is in the supermarket of ideas and the cafeteria of comparative philosophy & religions. Neither the Christians nor the Jews invented the concept of sin, or of fallenness; the reality to which those concepts or symbolisms point was known -- under different labels, but with essentially the same ingredients -- by Homer, Hesiod, the pre-Socratics, and SPA (Socrates, Plato and Aristotle), as well as socres of later philosophers like Plotinus, not to mention the later Latins (Cicero, Chrysippus, Marcus Aurelius, to name three out of dozens more).

The answer or solution to the existential questions raised by the experience of fallenness does, however, involve new insights brought to mankind by the pneumatic revelations of Israel (what Voegelin called a "leap in being") and of Christ -- even if that answer was not an answer that ended the mystery of history, but only raised new questions: or rather raised the perennial Question to a higher luminosity.

"Islam is the fastest growing religion"

Meningococcus is the fastest growing bacteria. You don't hear me crowing about how meningococcus is culturally enriching us all.

What's the problem the Muslims have with Robert anyway? All he's doing is collating news articles from around the world about Muslims & then presenting them here, it's not like he's making anything up. He's like a Google for Muslims, these critics should have a problem with the Muslims making the headlines, not Robert.

Here's an article about how the US will overtake the Islamic countries soon in oil production, hopefully it will then stop pandering to them like it is now. Merry christmas all.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmoney.cnn.com%2F2012%2F11%2F12%2Fnews%2Feconomy%2Fus-oil-production-energy%2Findex.html&ei=oXLZUPPhCoWjigfe5IHgDw&usg=AFQjCNGZKOFy89o12rQCpWJ2ZOOlSBB-Ow&sig2=xE1ZZMR6cR9YulAkvghSWQ

David

I couldn't resist I had to respond to this guy:

Your message to Robert shows you have absolutely no class. Your fellow Muslims should be ashamed of you. In one fell swoop you just destroyed, yet again, the myth of Islam being the "religion of peace".

Did you cite Taha? Did you cite a "moderate" message from Maulana Muhammad Ali's Holy Qur'an? Nope. You did the "typical" Muslim thing and wished evil on an "enemy". At least you make that clear; that you're an "enemy".

Unfortunately, once again, you show how stupid and unprepared Isamists are for rational debate. Or to offer anything even remotely resembling a debate.

I sometimes kick myself because I get a little carried away myself. I go into my own form of "tirades". Except that what I like to do is respond to articles like Gideon Polya's Jesus was a Palestinian and take on those in the comment sections. This particular one was at Alternet. Feel free to go check it out. I don't hide behind a "moniker" like some cowardly dog so you can immediately know who wrote what.

Anyway, my point is that what I like to do is respond with articles and books that I've already read to different articles and comments related to those articles.

What can I say, it's fun. You people are generally idiots and it's fun taking you on.

To a point. I have to admit it gets boreing after awhile. All you people can do is call people names and hurl insults.

Tell you what, let's see if I have better luck with you. Here's a segment I submitted on the Alternet comments section

Hope you don't mind I submitted your link:

AlterNet

http://email.alternet.org/comments/belief/jesus-christmas-and-palestinian-genocide-humanitarian-jesus-was-palestinian#comment-747207902

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Did it ever occur to you that you are being obsessive about this?

Yeah, I know sometimes I get carried away. But it's so much fun making these guys look like idiots. And hey, this time I brought a friend:

Urban_soundz4@hotmail.com

He's another Islamist Moron who can do nothing but call people names.

Go ahead and jump in and address the following:

I'm going to hazard a wild guess and assume you're one of those "right of return" dummies.

Read The Haj by Leon Uris. And ask these questions:

Questions for “Palestinians”:

What year did the nation of Palestine come into existance?

What were its national borders and what year did it cease to exist?

What currency did the nation of Palestine use and why is there no history of it?

Name one leader to the “nation of Palestine” prior to Yasser Arafat.

Below is an exerpt from my "ON JIHAD" letter in my Facebook Notes. But before I do that here are a couple of things to stew on:

I'd like to know, when I look at the pictures of the wild-eyed, frothing at the mouth fanatics in pictures and TV, where is that spirit of love and forgiveness when they're shouting “alahu-akbar”? I can't even find it in Taha's Second Message of Islam. Here's an exerpt of what I DO find;

I've got a neat little "poster"; one side is a picture of a bunch of screaming, frothing at the mouth Arabs and on the panel beside that a picture of a Jew in a labcoat. The caption below says: "In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days. Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10 countries during this time... ....while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize."

If Islam is the religion of peace, where in Abdullah bin Humaid's article on jihad can I find the equivalent of “Love Thy Neighbor”? “and good will toward men”? And explain its prominence in a book that's considered second only to the Koran. (My Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari and Qur'an.) Also address “jihad” as it's defined in Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. Also compare Humaid's “jihad” and Emmet Fox' Sermon on the Mount and tell me which one best represents a spirit of Love and compassion.

Work in Progress ON JIHAD

I've sent out dozens of requests to Muslims to compare these two works; Humaid's article on jihad...

Link here:

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?233460-Jihad-in-the-Qur-an-and-Sunnah&s=4df3fc2e4e0596eb3b38115ef4b8f506 ),

And here:

Jihad in the Qur'an and Sunnah by 'Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid

http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=77&id=129

…and Emmet Fox's Sermon on the Mount; and and to tell me how Islam can possibly be the “religion of peace”.

I've never gotten a response. Correction, I received a NON-answer from Dr. Mohsen El-Guindy suggesting that I read his books. I didn't read his books but I printed out and read several of his lengthy “articles”. I can't believe this guy is able to put a “Doctor” in front of his name. He not only sounds like a crazy man but he does absolutely nothing to respond to my challenge. To this day, nobody else has either.

Another man, who does have a deserving title in front of his name, is the Reverend Richard Wurmbrand. It's men like him, and his experiences as a Missionary in Communist Russia, that teach me the differences and the realities of who the legitimate men of God are. A perfect example is the description of the word “martyr” on page eight of his book “Tortured for Christ”:

“According to the original Greek, “martyr” means “witness”. The writer of Hebrews states that “we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses [martyrs]” (12:1), and Jesus instructs us in Acts 1:8, “You shall be witnesses [martyrs] to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” The New Testament martyr not only personally testified to the truth and power of Jesus Christ, but was instructed to take that witness to others, regardless of the cost. Later in the book of Acts, we read about the stoning of Stephen, making him the first to pay the ultimate price for that witness. It is at this time that the word martyr took on a much stronger meaning as one who not only is a witness but as one who is willing to give his life or to be martyred for that cause."

In my copy of Tortured For Christ I've got the last four words double underlined; “martyred for that cause”.

Sheikh bin Humaid uses the word “martyr” in his article on Jihad eleven times. I'm pretty sure that those martyrs aren't meant to die without a sword in their hand. (Or dynamite and ball bearings wrapped around their waist) Which reminds me of the one aspect of the challenge I included when I asked Muslims to compare what would have to be the ultimate in their respective works:

If Islam is the religion of peace, where in Abdullah bin Humaid's article on jihad can I find the equivalent of “Love Thy Neighbor”? “and good will toward men”? And explain its prominence in a book that's considered second only to the Koran. (My Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari and Qur'an.) Also address “jihad” as it's defined in Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. Also compare Humaid's “jihad” and Emmet Fox' Sermon on the Mount and tell me which one best represents a spirit of Love and compassion. Explain.

The world over Muslims are murdering Buddhists. And using the word “murder” is putting it kindly. In all of Islamic literature; Sahih Muslim, Sahih Bukhari, The Koran and especially Reliance of the Traveller where can you find teachings that would result in the following story?:

This is from the book “the Wisdom of Forgiveness” by His Holiness the Dalai lama and Victor Chan. Pages 47 and 48:

“Whenever the Dalai lama talks about forgiveness, he likes to use as an example the story of Lopon-la, a Lhasa monk he knew before the Chinese occupation. 'After I escaped from Tibet, Lopon-la put in prison by Chinese', the Dalai Lama told me. 'he stayed there eighteen years. When he finally free, he came to India. For twenty years, I did not see him. But he seemed the same. Of course looked older. But physically OK. His mind still sharp after so many years in prison. He was still same gentle monk. He told me the Chines forced him to denounce his religion. Thery tortured him many times in prison. I asked him whether he was ever afraid. Lopon-la then told me: 'Yes, there was one thing I was afraid of. I was afraid I may lose compassion for the Chinese.'”

I'd like to know, when I look at the pictures of the wild-eyed, frothing at the mouth fanatics in pictures and TV, where is that spirit of love and forgiveness when they're shouting “alahu-akbar”? I can't even find it in Taha's Second Message of Islam. Here's an exerpt of what I DO find;

I've got a neat little "poster"; one side is a picture of a bunch of screaming, frothing at the mouth Arabs and on the panel beside that a picture of a Jew in a labcoat. The caption below says: "In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days. Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10 countries during this time... ....while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize."

Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid's article on Jihad should be a discussion all by itself:

Jihad in the Qur'an and Sunnah by 'Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid

http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=77&id=129

Islamophobia: Exposing Malicious Malarkey “3.Why is there a ‘Book’ of Jihad in each of the four major hadith collections?)

http://islamophobiaexposed.wordpress.com/tag/reliance-of-the-traveler/

Islam Exposed (scroll down the article to The Reliance of the Traveller reference.)

http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html

To Our Great Detriment: Ignoring What Extremists Say About Jihad Stephen Collins Coughlin Major, Military Intelligence, USAR This is the report that every official, at every level of government, is criminally negligent for not reading:

http://www.carlisle.army.mil/DIME/documents/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf

Here's a footnote on the Humaid article: 27 Sheikh ‘Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Humaid, Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia, AppendixIII - “The Call to Jihad- (Holy Fighting for Allah in the Qur’an Statement),” located in Interpretation of the Meanings of the Noble Qur’an in the English Language: A SummarizedVersion of At-Tabari; Al-Qurtubi, and Ibn Kathir with Comments from Sahih Al-Bukhari, trans. and commentary by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, (DARUSSALAM: Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1995), 963, 964.

And this is an excerpt from a previous letter I posted on Jihad Watch:

[I ordered the Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari online. My hair stood on end when I read the article on Jihad by Sheikh Humaid the ex-Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia. So help me God, I thought they had mailed me the wrong book. I thought they'd sent me one of their wahibi texts they reserved for their more radical buddies. The essence of this article is illustrated on page 1089 in the third paragraph:

“The foundation of the military spirit as they say: obedience and military discipline. Allah has gathered these foundations in the Verses of his Book (The Qur'an).”

And is summed up in the words of Muhammed himself:

“I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then come back to life and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred. Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 4 Hadith No. 54]

Along with Humaid's article on Jihad this should convince you to finally realize that when Muslims say that jihad means “inner struggle” they're lying. Lying through their teeth.

And this bares repeating: This book also puts in a plug for the mass murderers of 331 school children in Beslan Russia. P-863 Check out where they call the spread of Islam by the sword “missionary work” on the same page. (Another good reason to read Nicolai Sennels 2010 articles "Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society” and “ The connection between Muslim inbreeding and terrorism.” here's a quote: Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1,400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool.” I attached to these articles a copy of a poster of a bunch of raving, ranting Muslims beside a picture of a stout fellow wearing glasses standing in a laboratory with the caption: “In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days. Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10 countries during this time...while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize.”)

Also, at least my edition, the Bukhari is an unholy, stinking unorganized mess. The book doesn't even have an Index. Whenever chapters and verses are cited online I can never find them in my Summarized Bukhari. This speaks volumes about this religions credibility. When you cite the Bible there is absolutely no confusion. As a matter of fact I was watching an old Columbo episode and it was funny, Gene Barry playing a character in the episode made a crack about the detective's tenacity by saying “He'd look for flaws in the Old Testament.” You'll never hear this type of endorcement of the Koran or Sunnah. It just won't happen.

A “search” of the word “jihad” in Sheikh Humaid's article comes up with these sentances in the first four pages:

Praise be to Allah swt Who has ordained Al-Jihad (the holy fighting in Allah's Cause):

So when you meet (in fight... Jihad in Allah's Cause) those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives).

Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad againstthe disbelievers till they embrace Islam

Then, at that time Allah permitted them (Muhammad pbuh and his followers) the (Jihad) fighting but He did not make it obligatory.

Then after that He made (Jihad) "fighting" obligatory against all those who fight you (Muslims); not against those who didn't fight you.

Allah (swt) made "the fighting' (Jihad) obligatory for the Muslims and gave importance to the subject-matter of Jihad in all the Surah (Chapters of the Qur'an)

March forth whether you are light (being healthy, young and wealthy) or heavy (being ill, old and poor), strive [ hard with your wealth and your lives in the Cause of Allah. This is better for you if you but knew. (V.9:41).

Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know. (V.2:216)

A “search” for “inner struggle” results with:

Nothing.

The word “Love”:

“I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then come back to life and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred. Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 4 Hadith No. 54

They strove hard for him with all their efforts, and preferred his love to the love of (their) fathers, offspring and wives.

At first Muslims disliked it (Jihad), but later they loved it and said: "We listen and obey."

(He will give you) another (blessing) which you love,-help from Allah (against your enemies) and a near victory.

How soothing are they for the hearts of every lover of good (And that “good” person is someone dancing down the street tossing rose petals in the air?)

...it(Jihad) includes all kinds of worship both hidden and open, it also includes (a great) love for Allah

I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then come back to life and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred. " (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 4, Hadith No.54).

Verily! Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in rows (ranks) as if they were a solid structure. (V.61:4).

Hey! Here's one:

And Allah loves the patient ones. (V.3: 146).

Never mind, (Imitation of Lily Tomlin's Operator Lady)

And many a Prophet (i e many from amongst the Prophets) fought (in Allah's Cause) and along with them (fought) large bands of religious learned men. But they never lost heart for that which did befall them in Allah's Way, nor did they weaken, nor degrade themselves. And Allah loves the patient ones. (V.3: 146).

All the “love” has to do with love of war and a god who promises perpetual sex with 72 Houris of your choice. Yeeehaa!

I referenced “Reliance of the Traveller”. This is another good resource to finally put to rest the argument, or rather lie that jihad means “inner struggle” to most Muslims. The following is THE definition of Jihad in “Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law” It's found on the book shelves of every Muslim Imam and Cleric in the world right next to their holy Koran. (This book also puts in a plug for the mass murderers of 331 school children in Beslan Russia. P-863):

The Reliance of the Traveller P-599

Chapter O-9.0: Jihad

(O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said as he was returning from jihad.

"We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.''

The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b-7) is such Koranic verses as:

1- "Fighting is prescribed for you'' (Koran 2:216);

2- "Slay them wherever you find them'' (Koran 4:89);

3- "Fight the idolators utterly'' (Koran 9:36);

and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

"I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah'';

and the hadith reported by Muslim,

"To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the whole world and everything in it.''Details concerning jihad are found in the accounts of the military expeditions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), including his own martial forays and those on which he dispatched others. The former consist of the ones he personally attended, some twenty-seven (others say twenty-nine) of them. He fought in eight of them, and killed only one person with his noble hand, Ubayy ibn Khalaf, at the battle of Uhud. On the latter expeditions he sent others to fight, himself remaining at Medina, and these were forty-seven in number.)

Just for the hell of it I decided to check the Index for “extremism” and lo and behold I did. To be perfectly honest I don't look forward to finding anything in their holy books that can put them in a good light but I do make the effort. In this case my heart caught in my throat when I saw the word “religious extremism” and with trepredation went to page 707. p75.23 and found this:

EXESSIVENESS IN RELIGION

p75.23 Allah Most High says,

"Say 'O people of the Book, do not be excessive in your religion'" (Koran 4:171).

(Qurtubi:) According to exegetes, this refers to the extremism of the Jews concerning Jesus in accusing Mary of fornication, and the extremism of the Christians in considering him a god. For both excessiveness and remissness are evil, and both may be unbelief (al-Jami' li ahkam al-Qur'an (y117), 6.21).

The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,

"Beware of going to extremes (in religion), for those before you were only destroyed through excessiveness."

(Munawi:) Ibn Taymiya says, "His saying 'Beware of going to extremes in religion' is a general prohibition applying to all types of extremes, whether in belief or works" (Fayd al-Qadir sharh al-Jami' al-saghir (y91), 3.126).

So much for that. This is obviously not a reference to the perv... ….I mean perfect religion of peace. And I'm not so perfect myself; I had looked at a reference under “Jews” that was just above “Jihad”. Oops.

Lastly, one only has to look at the Muslim themselves and their reaction to anything critical of Islam. They are “terrified”, if you'll forgive the use of the word, of having their violent religion exposed for the fascist ideology that it is; Muslims stoning Christians having a peaceful demonstration in Dearborn, MI, where Christians preaching the Word have been so cruelly treated at the annual “Muslim Festivals”. Even the Dearborn Police and politicians have gotten into the act of persecuting those who not just defies Islam, but offers any kind of alternative.

Or CAIR, who along with the OIC are trying to enact laws in this country to criminalize any criticizm of Islam.

But the worst is our own government and media that actively promote this awful religion but do everything in its power to suppress the opposition.

And last but not least: Ten Obvious Reasons Why Islam is NOT a Religion of Peace:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Top-10-Reasons.htm

Added 10-27-12: The Real Foreign-Policy Failure: A response to Doug Feith and Seth Cropsey.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331787/real-foreign-policy-failure-andrew-c-mccarthy

This is a great article that starts out slow but starts rolling like an avalanche to page five where he absolutely nails it: The answer is found in one word: sharia. Unfortunately, that is a word that Messrs. Feith and Cropsey do not utter — the elephant in the room that many Republican national-security thinkers continue to ignore.

Sharia is Islam’s societal framework, its legal code. The classical interpretation of sharia is the backbone of the ideology we are talking about. As I reiterated on the Corner earlier this week, it is easily accessible: Reliance of the Traveller is an authoritative sharia manual, the English translation of which has been endorsed by the scholars of al-Azhar University (the center of Sunni jurisprudential learning since the tenth century) and by such influential outfits as the International Institute of Islamic Thought, a think tank established by the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States in the early eighties.

Andrew McCarthy is a great resource in understaning exactly what “radical” Islam is. See his articles in “The Corner” at National Review Online.

http://www.nationalreview.com/

This article is a GREAT segue to an article on Reliance of the Traveller refering to an article on Timbuktu: The Ideology Problem in Timbuktu Is Not al-Qaeda’s Making — It Is Classical Islam. (Laying out verse after verse in the Traveller.)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331635/ideology-problem-timbuktu-not-al-qaedas-making-it-classical-islam-andrew-c-mccarthy Mali: no rhythm or reason as militants declare war on music

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/23/mali-militants-declare-war-music/print

It's too bad the above had to take up so much space. There's no feature to condense it and the "comment" comes out longer then submitted. You have to "edit" the crap out of it after you've put it in the comments here.

I'm not getting into the gobbledeegook. I heard someone praise the new "format".

I think it needs a LOT of work.

Sorry

It's too bad the above had to take up so much space. There's no feature to condense it and the "comment" comes out longer then submitted. You have to "edit" the crap out of it after you've put it in the comments here.

I'm not getting into the gobbledeegook. I heard someone praise the new "format".

I think it needs a LOT of work.

Sorry

It's the news ones who are the worst sometimes. I guess he joined because he likes LEGAL VIOLENCE...

Let us bombard the fool with e-mails. I shall recommend he reads the Sirat Rasul Allah and recommend instead of issuing insults he confine himself to reasoned argument.