Modern, moderate Indonesia: Islamic supremacists seal off churches, prevent Christmas prayers

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“How can we think about Christmas decorations or a Christmas tree when our church is still sealed off from us?” Will the Islamophobia never end? "Beleaguered Indonesian Churches Still Shut This Christmas," by Lenny Tristia Tambun for the Jakarta Globe, December 21 (thanks to Lookmann):

While Christians across Indonesia are busy decking out their churches with colorful Christmas decorations, two congregations on the outskirts of Jakarta are fighting just to be allowed to enter their churches for the holiday.

For the Rev. Palti Panjaitan of the Batak Christian Protestant Church (HKBP) Filadelfia congregation in Bekasi, the lack of a Christmas tree is the least of his worries.

“How can we think about Christmas decorations or a Christmas tree when our church is still sealed off from us?” he said on Thursday.

“Our focus now is just to be able to hold Christmas prayers in our own church.”

The congregation of around 600 has since 2007 been forced to worship on the street outside its church or in members’ homes as the Bogor district administration continues to deny it a permit.

The congregation has taken the matter to the West Java State Administrative Court and the Supreme Court, both of which ordered the district to issue the permit and reopen the church. But the district has refused to comply, citing residents’ opposition to the presence of the church in their midst.

It should be a very straightforward matter for us to get the permit, but they keep clouding the issue,” Palti said.

“In reality, it’s only a few people who don’t want us there.”

The group’s plan this year, as it has been every Christmas since 2007, is to keep lobbying the local community and authorities to allow them to hold Christmas services in their church.

Palti said that if their efforts failed this year, they will have to fall back on their now familiar routine of holding a very brief service at another church in Bekasi.

In Bogor, the GKI Yasmin congregation faces a nearly identical quandary, although in its case it was awarded a permit that was promptly revoked by municipal authorities in 2006.

Rini, a congregation member, said that this year the group planned to celebrate Christmas in its church, which remains sealed off despite a Supreme Court ruling ordering it reopened two years ago.

“Whether or not the authorities permit it, we’re intent on worshiping in our church,” she said.

“That’s all we want, so hopefully we can celebrate Christmas properly this year.”

She added that the congregation had also sent an invitation to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono to be the guest of honor at the Christmas prayer.

The Yasmin and Filadelfia congregations have for the past year tried to draw the president’s attention to their plight by holding joint Sunday services on the street outside the State Palace.

To date, however, the central government has refused to enforce the court rulings in either case, arguing that under the principle of regional autonomy, the local authorities are free to act as they see fit....

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These people need to take a lesson from their Jewish cousins. Jewish law states that anywhere ten people get together to bless the almighty is fit place to pray. Screw their racist, muzzie neighbors.

Jakarta is a long way from Aceh, but sometimes very close indeed.

Aceh region is at the westernmost end of Indonesia and the first area to become muslim. The inhabitants live by the Sharia and naturally are unhappy with the rest of the nation. Contrary to the claims of "modern, moderate Indonesia" Aceh shows us how Islam will likrly become for the rest of the Indonesians.

That would mean that if you pray alone, there is no fit place to do it...
The reason for 'ten or more' is the belief that prayer is more powerful when done by large numbers of people at the same time...I'm not so sure of that, but 'numbers' of religious and occult people are...

Now come on chaps,be reasonable. You know Christmas upsets Allah and His 'Prophet and Messenger.'

I don't think Christians - or Jews, for that matter - think there is more 'power' in prayer if it is said by more people than one.

Look at Elijah and Daniel in the Bible - Elijah all on his own praying, over against the numerous and noisy priests of Baal; and Daniel interceding for the people of Israel, in Babylon ; and then there's the Rabbinic concept of the tzaddik, the one righteous man whose presence can save a city.

The book of James (whose original name, of course, would have been Yaacov), in the Christian scriptures, picks up on this: "the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much".

I think the Hebrew concept of the minyan (ten Jewish men forming the minimum number to be counted as a synagogue congregation), which is revised downward by Jesus/ Yeshua to 'two or three' (and I don't think he specifies gender) when he says, "wherever two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them", is not about power - getting what you want - but about community.

One person alone is...one person alone (though one person praying to YHWH is not one person talking to himself, but a person conversing with Another); two (two friends, two siblings, a parent and child, a husband and wife, or just any two people who belong to YHWH) is a relationship, three - both parents and a child, three siblings, three friends, three co-workers - is an even richer relationship. Take it up to ten and you have a large family or a small society.

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