Muslims in neighborhood of Toulouse jihad mass murderer: "Mohammed Merah, you know, he’s a hero, he’s a martyr of Islam"

We're always told that the Vast Majority of Muslims abhors and rejects violent jihad. Yet again and again we see stories like this one. Apparently Les Izards is full of misunderstanders of Islam. "Neighborhood Is Torn Over a Killer’s Legacy," by Scott Sayare in the New York Times, December 19 (thanks to Block Ness):

TOULOUSE, France — In the spring, shortly after her son’s murder, Latifa Ibn Ziaten took a taxi to Les Izards, a hard-up immigrant neighborhood here, hoping to understand. She approached a group of young men to ask, “Do you know Mohammed Merah?”

Mr. Merah, a 23-year-old French-Algerian who claimed to have ties to Al Qaeda, had killed Ms. Ibn Ziaten’s son Imad, a sergeant in the French Army, with a gunshot to the head. Before dying in a police raid in March, Mr. Merah admitted that killing and those of two other soldiers, a rabbi and three Jewish children. He spent much of his short life in Les Izards.

“Mohammed Merah, you know, he’s a hero, he’s a martyr of Islam,” the men said, Ms. Ibn Ziaten recalled. “You haven’t seen what it’s like to live here?” they continued, gesturing toward their neighborhood of beige housing projects and gravelly concrete. “At least he showed the French what power is.”

She then told the men who she was; one began to cry, she said. A man took her hand, and she worried he meant to hit her.

“I’m sorry, we’re sorry, madame,” he said. They told her of feeling unwanted. “We’re never listened to, here in the projects,” one of them said. “For them, we’re just trash.” They insisted the police would not have killed Mr. Merah had he not been Arab.

“These youth, they feel humiliated,” said Ms. Ibn Ziaten, herself an immigrant from Morocco. They are treated as North Africans in France, she said, and as French in North Africa. “They don’t know where their place is,” she said. Nor did Mr. Merah.

“He took what was dearest to me; he took my son, my friend, my prince,” Ms. Ibn Ziaten said. “But he was a victim of society.”

Other residents of this depressed place say the same, though most do not celebrate Mr. Merah’s crimes. He committed the unconscionable, they say, but he was one of them, shaped by the same forces of rejection and discrimination that they say they know and resent. They understand, to a degree, and they will not denounce him.

To much of France, Mr. Merah was a terrorist, a determined killer who reviled this country, who set out for Afghanistan and Pakistan for training in jihad. In Les Izards he was, and remains, simply Mohammed. The gap between those images, both true but neither complete, seems only to have deepened the sense of alienation in the neighborhood.

“We’re still a bit in shock,” said Frédéric Mercadal, 37, who heads the local soccer club and knew Mr. Merah well. He had his troubles, Mr. Mercadal said, and was frequently childish and needy. But he could also be “courteous and kind,” even “filled with joie de vivre.”

This is invariably a feature of stories about jihad murderers. They're all decent fellows.

Like Mr. Merah, many local youths identify with the Palestinian cause, said Younouss Zeroual, 17, whose closely trimmed black hair peaks in a meticulous ridge. During his standoff with the police, Mr. Merah told negotiators that he had targeted soldiers who were fighting Muslims in Afghanistan — like Ms. Ibn Ziaten’s son — and then chose to shoot Jews, when a separate target failed to appear, to avenge Palestinian deaths.

“Everyone says he was wrong,” Mr. Zeroual said. “But they understand the message he wanted to get across.”

Conspiracy paranoia:

Still, Mr. Zeroual said he believed Mr. Merah was perhaps framed by the government. As an Arab, he had “the look of a criminal” in the eyes of the state, Mr. Zeroual said. Witness descriptions of the killer did not match Mr. Merah, he said.

Lakhdar Chadli, 25, who used to play soccer with Mr. Merah, added, “We didn’t see his body.”

There is ambivalence, even pride, in his crimes. Some young men seem to enjoy the horror they can provoke by calling him a hero, residents and social workers said. Some surely believe he is.

“We’re trying not to talk about it, to move on to something else,” said a local social worker, requesting that his name be withheld. When he has tried to engage young people about Mr. Merah, they have responded only by calling him a “god.” “You can’t have a real exchange.”

In his violence, Mr. Merah has left the area feeling under siege, too, residents say, from the police and the news media, which descended en masse after the killings, and from politicians who have made Les Izards a watchword for violence and hate. In response, there has been a sort of closing of ranks. Residents discuss Mr. Merah among themselves, they say, but consider it a betrayal to discuss him with outsiders.

“I think the neighborhood has had enough of being stigmatized,” said Martine Croquette, a deputy mayor in Toulouse....

The victims! Oh, the poor victims!

The neighborhood is small, with about 4,000 residents, mostly Arabs from North Africa or their children. Many are observant Muslims. About half the youths are unemployed.

Residents “know they’re marginalized, they know people don’t give a damn about them,” said a local businessman and Muslim organizer, requesting anonymity for fear of local reaction. Children are urged into vocational schools instead of universities, he said. Young men say they are turned away from nightclubs because they are Arab.

Yeah, nobody gives a damn about them. That's why they're only getting $25 million (read on).

Residents complain that when potential employers see their postal code, 31200, they are immediately disqualified. Many young men here “go bad in reaction,” said a local woman, a retired nurse, who asked not to be quoted by name. Some turn to the drug trade, others to Islam, though the few radical currents that exist in Toulouse have little hold here, residents say.

Yeah, obviously.

There are occasional concerts, though, a weekly open-air market, the library. “It’s the projects,” the woman said, but the neighborhood can also be “pleasant to live in.”

Meanwhile, French authorities are affirming that terrorism works by forking over the jizya in response to the jihad murders:

The killings have accelerated plans for an urban renovation program here, an investment of about $25 million from the City of Toulouse. The central government recently designated the area for additional law enforcement resources, though many residents do not feel kindly toward the police.

Two days after police commandos killed Mr. Merah in a raid in March, a gray Peugeot sedan rolled to a stop before a cluster of young men in Les Izards. A plainclothes police officer in the passenger seat held his hands to the window, residents recalled, gesturing in celebration of his colleagues’ bloody handiwork: 1-0.

The officer, despised in the neighborhood since well before that episode, still patrols there.

Oh, the poor victims!

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They don't belong in France or in Africa? I am sure they belong more in Africa, where so many speak French anyway.

If I moved to a country and then felt I didn't belong, I would go home. Wouldn't anyone? They moved to France...they can move again. They are not stuck with glue to France.

Last night I was talking by phone to a Muslim who wanted to come to the West. I told him he didn't belong here specifically because he had told me months ago how M Merah was justified in killing French people "because of Iraq." That sentiment immediately disqualified him from living amongst us.

I would like to see immigration officials make a start on reimposing healthy discrimination by asking Muslims what they think of Jews, of people such as Merah, and so on. Of course they might well lie, but lie detecting is quite easy to a trained mind.

Note to Muslims: Unless you want to find yourself face to face with Allah and Mo in Hell, do not praise that murdering bastard Merah in my presence. And yes, Guy Macher is my real name.

The "god" Mr. Merah gave a sweet little Jewish girl a point-blank!

What pantywaist sissies these ver-men are. Just because they feel some way doesn't make it true. They create their own alienation, then blame others. At least they know they are numerically superior and destined to destroy the developed world, for whatever that means to them. Of course, the Chinese will destroy them after they destroy us. Good riddence.
These bigoted, twisted islamobots, are not the "Other", WE ARE, as in free civilized people. And our pool, already a minority, is shrinking fast. Curse these complainers all you can until you can't, or remain silent, it matters not. Look at the Copts, Assyrians, Jews, etc. They are attacked by the Islamonazis either way.

"Neighborhood Is Torn Over a Killer’s Legacy"
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Is Newtown, Long Island, torn over the legacy of Adam Lanza, who shot up a school full of elementary school kids?

Hell no. I'm sure people in the neighborhood have slightly different takes on the situation, as one might expect: some simply hating the killer, while some may also feel somewhat sorry for someone so tortured by mental illness that they were driven to such a horrific crime.

But does *anyone* consider this homicidal loser a "martyr"? I would very much doubt it. But then, there aren't a lot of Muslims in Sandy Hook...

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TOULOUSE, France — In the spring, shortly after her son’s murder, Latifa Ibn Ziaten took a taxi to Les Izards, a hard-up immigrant neighborhood here, hoping to understand. She approached a group of young men to ask, “Do you know Mohammed Merah?”

Mr. Merah, a 23-year-old French-Algerian who claimed to have ties to Al Qaeda, had killed Ms. Ibn Ziaten’s son Imad, a sergeant in the French Army, with a gunshot to the head. Before dying in a police raid in March, Mr. Merah admitted that killing and those of two other soldiers, a rabbi and three Jewish children.
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Notice that Imad Ibn Ziaten is not considered a hero, but the murderous Mohammed Merah *is*...

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He spent much of his short life in Les Izards.
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Why was Mohammed Merah's life short? Average life expectancy in civilized France is over eighty years.

His life was short because murdering Jews, native French people, and Muslims he deemed "un-Islamic"—like Latifa Ibn Ziaten's son Imad—were more important to this pious savage.

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“Mohammed Merah, you know, he’s a hero, he’s a martyr of Islam,” the men said, Ms. Ibn Ziaten recalled. “You haven’t seen what it’s like to live here?” they continued, gesturing toward their neighborhood of beige housing projects and gravelly concrete. “At least he showed the French what power is.”
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*Grotesque*. If they don't like living in France, they can damn well leave. They are almost certainly living better than they would back in some Islamic hellhole—and many of them are living off the French taxpayer, as well.

It is noteworthy, as well, that this Muslim *does not consider himself French*.

Also, look at their idea of "power"—murdering people.

I grew up under similar circumstances, and my idea—which I have largely achieved—was to "show" society by getting an education and living a good life—not so pious Muslims.

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She then told the men who she was; one began to cry, she said. A man took her hand, and she worried he meant to hit her.

“I’m sorry, we’re sorry, madame,” he said.
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Would their reaction have been the same had this been eight-year-old Miriam Monsonego's Jewish mom come looking for answers? I very much doubt it...

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They told her of feeling unwanted. “We’re never listened to, here in the projects,” one of them said. “For them, we’re just trash.” They insisted the police would not have killed Mr. Merah had he not been Arab.
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What absolute crap. As though "feeling unwanted" gives you the right to go on a murder spree. Has it occurred to this Muslim that one reason they might feel unwanted is that they are prone to going on murder sprees? Somehow I doubt it...

Also, the idea that Merah was killed by police 'because he was Arab' is ludicrous—he was trying to murder police for hours, up until the very end. It's not as though he tried to surrender.

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“These youth, they feel humiliated,” said Ms. Ibn Ziaten, herself an immigrant from Morocco. They are treated as North Africans in France, she said, and as French in North Africa. “They don’t know where their place is,” she said. Nor did Mr. Merah.
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What crap. You can say this about *any* immigrant. Why should Asian immigrant kids in America respond by studying hard, and Muslim kids in France respond by murdering French people? This has nothing to do with the nature of immigrant experience, and everything to do with Islam.

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“He took what was dearest to me; he took my son, my friend, my prince,” Ms. Ibn Ziaten said. “But he was a victim of society.”
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Good grief. So Ms. Ibn Ziaten has decided that her son wasn't really killed by a fellow Muslim, but by the filthy Infidel...what a surprise...sarc/off

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Other residents of this depressed place say the same, though most do not celebrate Mr. Merah’s crimes. He committed the unconscionable, they say, but he was one of them, shaped by the same forces of rejection and discrimination that they say they know and resent. They understand, to a degree, and they will not denounce him.
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It's not just that they "won't denounce him"—bad enough—but that so many of them consider him a "martyr" and a "hero"—that is, they consider him a good Jihadist.

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To much of France, Mr. Merah was a terrorist, a determined killer who reviled this country, who set out for Afghanistan and Pakistan for training in jihad. In Les Izards he was, and remains, simply Mohammed. The gap between those images, both true but neither complete, seems only to have deepened the sense of alienation in the neighborhood.
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Really? And will that "alienation" breed more Jihad murderers?

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“Everyone says he was wrong,” Mr. Zeroual said. “But they understand the message he wanted to get across.”
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And what was that message? That Muslims better not assimilate, adopt Western values, or ever stand with Infidels against other Muslims; and that Jews are not safe from murder anywhere—even at Jewish schools in the civilized West.

What a lovely message...sarc/off

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Conspiracy paranoia:

Still, Mr. Zeroual said he believed Mr. Merah was perhaps framed by the government. As an Arab, he had “the look of a criminal” in the eyes of the state, Mr. Zeroual said. Witness descriptions of the killer did not match Mr. Merah, he said.
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More of that same Muslim cognitive dissonance—Mohammed Merah is both a heroic "Martyr" *and* a victim framed by the filthy Kuffar—just like Osama bin Laden and every other violent Jihadist.

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Lakhdar Chadli, 25, who used to play soccer with Mr. Merah, added, “We didn’t see his body.”
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Unlike the barbaric Muslims, we in the West are not in the habit of parading dead bodies in the street.

And what do you think would have happened if Merah's body *had* been displayed? His coreligionists would have carried all around Les Izards, while Muslim chanted "Allahu Akbar!" and vowed "revenge".

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There is ambivalence, even pride, in his crimes. Some young men seem to enjoy the horror they can provoke by calling him a hero, residents and social workers said. Some surely believe he is.

“We’re trying not to talk about it, to move on to something else,” said a local social worker, requesting that his name be withheld. When he has tried to engage young people about Mr. Merah, they have responded only by calling him a “god.” “You can’t have a real exchange.”
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Not if you're an Infidel who expects a civilized response...

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In his violence, Mr. Merah has left the area feeling under siege, too, residents say, from the police and the news media, which descended en masse after the killings, and from politicians who have made Les Izards a watchword for violence and hate.
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Uh—they bred a Jihad murder, and then regard him as a "god". Sounds like violence and hate to me...

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In response, there has been a sort of closing of ranks. Residents discuss Mr. Merah among themselves, they say, but consider it a betrayal to discuss him with outsiders.

“I think the neighborhood has had enough of being stigmatized,” said Martine Croquette, a deputy mayor in Toulouse....
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Poor babies! And we all know what's likely to happen when Muslims feel "stigmatized"...

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Some turn to the drug trade, others to Islam, though the few radical currents that exist in Toulouse have little hold here, residents say.
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How can *anyone* say that with a straight face under the circumstances?...

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Two days after police commandos killed Mr. Merah in a raid in March, a gray Peugeot sedan rolled to a stop before a cluster of young men in Les Izards. A plainclothes police officer in the passenger seat held his hands to the window, residents recalled, gesturing in celebration of his colleagues’ bloody handiwork: 1-0.
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"His colleagues' bloody handiwork"? This is how the journalist regards police taking out a mass murderer? **Unbelivable**. I notice that he doesn't refer to Merah's horrific Jihad murder spree as as "bloody handiwork"...

Mr. Merah, the poor misunderstood misunderstander was "filled with joie de vivre"? Non, pas du tout! He was filled with the lamp of Islam, the joy of killing, or the joy of the Qur'an and Jew hatred.

It's long past time for the French government to call out France's imams and Muslim clerics to explain why Islam does nothing to contribute to liberté, égalité, fraternité, but everything to animosité, stupidité, et mortalité.

We ought to ask our government to do the same thing.

The Muslims in France have strong sense of entitlement. When I was in a Muslim country, invited to an official meeting in the interest of their national security, the official, in the midst of a discussion, expressed his contempt for Christianity. I, as a foreigner they considered influential, was invited to be indoctrinated lest my influence be counter to their national interest. When I saw the plight of Christians whom they oppressed, France is much kinder a nation towards its minority. Christians in Muslim country are treated less than Muslim women; it's fair to say that Christians are better treated than dogs, since in some circumstances money can buy respect as it is in the west; however, poor Christians cannot expect to be employed by Muslims, nor can they expect social welfare; they are left with scavenging rubbish or be held as slaves. They are despised and scourged. They have cruel masters. They raped and physically disfigured by cruel treatments.

Is it true to you that the French treat Muslims worse in France than Muslims treat their treat Christians minority?

Muslims in Europe are well deserved to be despised after all the hospitality they received. They are damned haughty beggars.

The green slimey creatures called muslims have elevated victimhood to a fine art. It is ALWAYS others' fault, not theirs. No wonder they are despised in all infidel countries.

Mahoundians are always the victims. But reality is different. A French friend sent me a video, there was the pic of a T-shirt with the number 93, that's the number of the département Seine-St.-Denis, not far from Paris. Underneath was a map of France and it said: "Je niquerais la France jusq'à ce quelle m'aime". I'll screw France until she loves me. That means the mahoundians think they've already taken number 93 in France.

My friend sent me a link to a French article as well where a policeman had his say anonymously, of course. He said, we're no cowards, we'd love to do something but our politicians don't allow it.

http://ripostelaique.com/Nos-videos-les-plus-spectaculaires-6408.html
These are videos which are permanently linked on RiposteLaique, a very good French site, they show illegal Friday prayers in Paris, where streets are blocked and the police don't do anything about it. This happens in the capital of European culture where human rights were declared first long time before the U.N. was born. But Muslims are victimised. Bullocks!

Whoever says that, sucks up to them. France isn't the only country in Europe, there are lots of others which have got the same problem with the cancer of Islam. The U.S. is like heaven compared to Europe. Ask Robert, he's been here, he knows about the sinking ship called Europe.

But the victims are Muslims and Brutus is an honourable man.

What mohammedans call martyrs and heros are really murderers and zeros. What, are they incapable of recognizing and telling the truth? Obviously!

These people have high moral values, but Allah has twisted them beyond recognition...A little more inner spiritual struggle jihad might help them get their priorities straight...Look what it has done for Rehab...

This story is a grotesque piece of pseudo-journalism-cum-propaganda. I wish Spencer had, in his interlinear-&=bolded editorial, highlighted more explicitly the main theme of the entire piece: Poverty and Discrimination Cause Terrorism.

And these days, I always note the name of the reporter for these MSM pieces. Here we have "Scott" Sayare -- yet another foreign-looking name: either a Muslim himself, or a Third World dhimmi. Not that we don't have plenty of homegrown idiots in the West in news media to pen such nonsense.

Corrigendum: The = should have been a - (readers may imagine, or vocalize, the pertinent Victor-Borgeisms).

You play the piano too? I fall off the stool a lot, and I don't even play piano...

Gravenimage

I have to say: you've said it all; you've left the rest of us with little to add.


However, just to refresh people's memories, and for the benefit of new readers at this forum who may not have been paying attention when it all happened back in March this year, here's a link which gives potted biographies of the victims: the people that Mohammed Merah attacked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17443337


*They* are the ones whose families and communities the French journalist should have been interviewing.

It should be noted that one of Merah the Meshugga's victims, Loic Liber, not killed but left in a coma (though, reading the BBC account just now, I found he had recovered enough to 'communicate by making signs') was a *black* non-Muslim soldier - French Antillean, his parents have very French Catholic names, Jean-Luc and Emilienne Jean-Baptiste. And so far as I can see, he seems not to have seen himself - black, from the Caribbean - as a victim nor wasted his life whining and complaining and feeling entitled.

I would also draw people's attention to the fact that among those Merah murdered was one Abel Chennouf, also of North African Arab *ancestry*) who is probably best-described as a fully-assimilated-into-France *apostate* from Islam. His family, having jettisoned Islam and prudently abandoned lost-to-Islam Algeria, seems to have been flourishing in France.

The BBC's potted biography called him 'a practising Roman Catholic with North African roots'; he bore the Biblical name Abel (eerie coincidence, that), and he was laid to rest in a Catholic cemetery, after a full-on Catholic requiem mass in Montauban Cathedral, with his parents and grieving native French fiancee - very pregnant then - in attendance. (A quick google round has told me that she had the child, a little boy, called 'Eden', in early May this year, only two months after his father was murdered).

Somehow I suspect that Abel Chennouf's parents won't go anywhere near the Islam-maddened Muslim banlieues that spawned Mohammed Merah...they left all that behind them, a generation ago at least. They were 'Kabyle [that is, Berber] and Catholic'.

This link includes an English translation of the homily delivered by the chaplain of the 17th RGP, Christian Venard, at the funeral service for Abel:

http://galliawatch.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/homage-to-abel-chennouf.html

I don't know whether Mohammed Merah *knew* that Abel Chennouf was a Catholic rather than a Muslim; probably not. But had he known, he would have viewed him with even greater enmity; not merely as a French infidel soldier, or as a 'collaborator', but as an apostate, marked for death by the sharia of Islam.


From the article:

“Mohammed Merah, you know, he’s a hero, he’s a martyr of Islam,” the men said'...

“At least he showed the French what power is.”

Let's just remind ourselves what he did (and as he did it, he *filmed* what he was doing, and then he sent a polished video of the butcherings, including the slaughter of the Jewish children, to Al Jazeera; the video of the ritual murders was intercut with 'songs' and Koranic recitations).

He shot soldiers - who were on leave, unarmed - from ambush.

And he shot an unarmed rabbi, and two utterly defenceless little Jewish boys, and another teenaged Jewish boy (who survived, though badly wounded) and he grabbed an eight-year-old Jewish girl, Miriam Monsonego, by the hair, and held her, and put a gun to her head, and blew her brains out. There was absolutely no possibility of his being hurt in so doing. He was an adult man; ritually murdering a helpless little girl. And *that* is what those despicable, despicable, accursed Mohammedthugs, in that interview we've just read, describe as having 'showed the French what power is'.

Riiight. So now we know the Mohammedan definition of 'power'. The Mohammedan definition of 'power' = "murdering defenceless children".

That definition is the definition of the psychopath and the sadist; it is the same definition of power that is enacted by the kind of person who enjoys torturing small animals to death.

And a lot of his fellow Muslims call him a 'hero' and a 'god'.

To repeat, this is what that 'hero', that 'god' - may his name be erased - **did**.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9154350/Toulouse-shooting-little-girl-cornered-in-school-and-shot-in-head.html

'Toulouse shooting: little girl cornered in school and shot in head

'It was shortly after 8am on a leafy street in a quiet suburb of Toulouse and children were being dropped off at the gates of the Ozar Hatorah Jewish school.

'The dark motor scooter pulled up and a man described as "determined and athletic" dismounted. Without removing his helmet or saying a word, he opened fire.

'Witnesses described how the gunman aimed at whoever was in his path, first shooting Jonathan Sandler, 30, a rabbi and teacher, along with his two sons, Aryeh, six, and Gavriel, three, as they waited for a minibus to take them to their nursery. All three are dead.


Then, when his 9mm weapon jammed, the killer switched to a .45-calibre gun, entered the school gates ** and chased children as they fled for cover.**

{A 'god'? A 'hero'? A 'martyr'?? - SPIT. PUKE. - dda}

'He shot a 17-year-old pupil, who is now fighting for his life in hospital,

'and then cornered eight-year old Miriam, the daughter of the school principal, Yaacov Monsonego. He put the gun to her head and shot her.'

"He was calm and determined. In cold blood he assassinated them as if he was killing animals," said Nicola Yardeni, the regional president of CRIF, France's Jewish organisation, after viewing CCTV footage of the shootings from surveillance cameras.

"You see a man park his motorcycle, start to shoot, enter the school grounds and chase children to catch one and shoot a bullet into her head. It's unbearable to watch. He was looking to kill."'

(He was equally despicable in his murder of the soldiers. Here is a quote, from the same article, about what he did:

'A witness described how the gunman approached one soldier who was wounded and attempting to crawl away, turned him over with his foot and fired three more shots into him before getting back on his scooter and making his escape.'

And even that report left out the worst of it; which we learn, here:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4205221,00.html

Toulouse killer executed the little girl'


Eye witness accounts of Toulouse school shooting reveal killer's savagery, state he carried out execution-style killing of 8-year-old Miriam Monsonego, shooting her repeatedly in order to confirm kill

'Jonathan Sandler was the first one to be shot at short range by the killer. He was holding his son Gabriel in his arms. Gabriel was hit and fell to the ground and then Arieh followed.

'According to eye-witnesses, the gun then jammed, temporarily putting a halt to the rampage but the killer swiftly changed weapons and headed into the school.

'He grabbed Miriam as she tried to escape, grasped her hair and shot her.

'Then, as she bled to death on the floor, he lifted up her head and fired two additional bullets."

And remember: he was *filming* all of this; and when he was holed up, before the French police found him and disposed of him, he had time to coolly go through and edit all his footage of ritual butcherings, and intercut his favourite Koranic verses and chants.

I am *glad* that this creature is dead; and that he didn't succeed in taking any of the French police with him, though he tried.

He was neither hero nor martyr nor 'god'; this contemptible Mohammedthug was a monster, and he is dead and damned.

Speaking as a Christian, I derive some small comfort from contemplating the fact that, beyond death, the shrivelled soul of the Muslim murderer will have had to endure the bottomless chagrin of discovering that the Islamic jannah is a lie and a delusion; and that, moreover, the *real* Judge of Heaven and Earth is not the infernal allah but, rather, a holy and shining One **with the face of a Jew**.


Three articles for the benefit of persons new to this site and this subject, which discuss the disgusting Mohammedan habit of posing as victims whilst carrying out despicable deeds and/ or applauding their fellow Mohammedans who have carried out despicable deeds.

First, David Thompson, on the subject of Muslim 'grievance theatre' and pantomime of victimhood.

1. It's OK to Dislike Islam

http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/03/intimidation_re.html

and 2. 'The Passive-Aggressive Jihad'

http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/03/the_passiveaggr.html

From article no 1:

"One of the creeping, unanalysed myths of our time is that it is somehow wrong to dislike Islam, or any part thereof, and wrong to take a dim view of its tenets and demands, and wrong to take a still dimmer view of the figure who founded it. I can practically hear the distant tutting and grunts of disapproval. Poor Islam. Poor Muslims. Their beliefs are being mocked. How hurtful. How 'racist.' How terribly unfair.

"No. It's not unfair at all.

"What's unfair is a demand for unearned deference and a unilateral exemption from the testing of ideas.

"What's unfair, indeed despicable, are efforts by Islamic groups to cow dissent and stifle criticism with a well-rehearsed pantomime of victimhood and the projection of false motives.

"**Pretending to be hurt in order to assert one's will over others, even violently** {my emphasis - dda} or to gain unreciprocated favours, or to exert control over what others may say and think, is cowardly and malign.

"Let me say that once again. It's cowardly and malign."

'Cowardly and malign'.

Now *that* is the character of Mohammed Merah, and of his fellow Mohammedans who admire him, in a nutshell.

He, and they, are cowardly and malign.


And so to my second analyst, 'Daniel Greenfield', of the 'Sultan Knish' blog.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html

Sunday, November 13, 2011

'The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances

'There is no surer path to Muslim violence than through the legitimization of Muslim grievance.

'And once you accept the legitimacy of the grievance, then you are also bound to accept the legitimacy of the violence that follows.

'Violence begins with grievance.

'Grievance is the pretext for violence and the narrative for the violence...

'...Grievance is the stories that Muslims tell themselves to justify their violence.

'To explain why they kill children and why they murder the innocent..

'Muslim grievances are the frustration of conquerors, the broken teeth of predators who weren't allowed to feed on the world until their stomachs burst..".


"And *that* is what those despicable, despicable, accursed Mohammedthugs, in that interview we've just read, describe as having 'showed the French what power is'."

It is an atrocity as great, what the New York Times did by publishing this piece. For they gave "Scott" Sayare full license to contextualize Merah's atrocity, and the Muslim community's praise of Merah's atrocity, as due to poverty and discrimination -- to "powerlessness" caused by French racism. This is worse than a whitewash, it is a reckless distortion that will help to ensure that more and more Mohammed Merahs will happen in various parts of the West.

It is always the same by muslims. They kill and kill and kill and they are the heros because infidels did something to them or did nothing that is why they killed. No remorse but sick rationalization as their sick prophet did before. Once they reach a certain number in a society like 5 to 10% of the population, I don't think you can get rid of them. The time is now we stop muslim immigration in the USA. Otherwise they will rule the whole world. Ops it is too late, we have Obama as president, elected twice. I am ashamed and we are doomed.

Re. Scott Sayare.

He may not necessarily be a dhimmi (any more than the judge 'Jack Zouhary' in the Randy Linn case).

I have noticed, here in Australia, that more and more one sees Mohammedans with 'non-Muslim-sounding' forenames or nicknames.

E.g we had a 'Mohammed' who took the innocuous-sounding 'Mick' as his 'gang nickname', and a 'Hasan' who called himself 'Sam'. It's only a really careful reporter who does their homework and provides the *real*, original forename as well as the non-Islamic-sounding nickname or camouflage name.

I even read an article - can't give the link at present, don't have time to trawl through my piles of e-clippings, but I do have it - about a Muslim living in Australia who had adopted a non-Muslim-sounding name in order to get interviewed for jobs. It was a typical 'poor me I'm a victim and those horrid Aussie employers are such Islamophobes' whine, but it did let us know that they are *doing* this kind of thing. They've worked out that some of us are wary of people with Islamic names, and so some of them are *changing their names*; either the whole name, or just the forename.

The Muslims running the shop - the ones I have been arguing with - have called their shop "Namaste". Oh, Namaste, eh? They KNOW Islam is loathed, or they would call their shop "Salaam Aleikum" or "Allahu Ackbar".

Very well said, classicus.

Permit me to add that this particular "Muslims In Toulouse -Jihad" piece ought to be required reading by all of the "do-gooder-liberals" here in our America who so idealistically advocate "affirmative action" and "multiculturalism". Simply stated...it just won't work. Here's even more evidence for those willing to look.

This attempt at legislating cultural change by effecting a generalized descent to the lowest possible common denominator is having readily apparent disastrous results to those here courageous enough and actually willing to piece through our liberal media's cover-up of our current administration's amateurishness and ineptitude.

Preaching to our choir here, I know, I know...but maybe, just maybe some truly open-minded liberals might just stumble upon these truths.

Isn't it truly laughable, in a sick sort of way, that these butchering Muslims claim to advocate a "religion of peace"?

As to the "observant" Muslims in America who may chance upon this propaganda-piercing website, I challenge you to shed your chutzpah and hypocrisy and admit that one "can't be a little bit pregnant".

I view these resident Muslim 'free riders' over here as soviet style "moles" and "cells".

How short and minimized our Cold War memories have become...mostly deleted with that faux comfort of out of sight out of mind.

TOULOUSE, France — In the spring, shortly after her son’s murder, Latifa Ibn Ziaten took a taxi to Les Izards, a hard-up immigrant neighborhood here, hoping to understand. She approached a group of young men to ask, “Do you know Mohammed Merah?”

Still haven't fixed it?

Never forget Miriam Monsonego.

By rights, her name should have become a household word...far more so than that of the Pakistani schoolgirl the Taliban shot recently (though one may still remark on the curious similarity in the manner of the two attacks; great big brave gun-toting male jihadist ::spit, puke:: parades the 'Dominance' of his miserable self and of his infernal demon-'god' 'allah', and of the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob, by shooting an unarmed and helpless little girl, half his size, in the head).

The Muslims blatantly faked *their* so-called ' martyr', Mohammed Durah; *we* non-Muslims by contrast have a *real* martyr, Miriam Monsonego, and she - in her heartrending innocence, her helplessness - should have been on the front page of every newspaper in the entire non-Muslim world, not just for one day, but day after day after day. Her face should be on placards at every rally we hold in defiance of Jihad. We are fighting so that what was done to her, will not be done to other non-Muslim children.

*She* - and Jonathan Sandler, 29, and his sons Gabriel (3) and Arieh (6), and Abel Chennouf, 24 - are the *real* martyrs, the real victims. And those who were gravely wounded but so far as I know have survived - the young Antillean French soldier, Loic Liber, and a teenage Jewish boy, Bryan Bijaoui, at the school.

Here is my prayer for the families of the non-Muslims who were killed or wounded. That they may be blessed and comforted. That Abel Chennouf’s baby son, Eden, will be baptized in the Catholic faith and grow up to be a strong Catholic and proud Frenchman and that he will bring true – *French* – honour to his family; and that Chennouf’s family will continue to love France and practise the Catholic faith, and that any lingering spiritual bondages from their Islamised Berber ancestors may be completely done away with.

That the Sandler and Monsonego families will be comforted and blessed and provided for, and kept safe, even in the land of Israel at the epicenter of Global Jihad; and that Rabbi Sandler’s final child, born (like Chennouf’s) after the murder of its father, may be a life-giver, strong and brave and wise.

That both France and Israel may withstand and defeat the Jihad.

That Loic Liber will recover fully from his wounds, and resume his service, as a proud Antillean Frenchman.

And that all the bereaved non-Muslim families, French and Israeli, will become fully aware of the fact that it was Islam, Islam, Islam, nothing but Islam pur et dur, that taught the murderer of their loved ones to do what he did; and that instead of being or becoming dhimmis, both in Israel and in France they will join and help lead the resistance against Jihad.


You will notice that I do not place the two Muslim soldiers whom Merah murdered - Muhammad Legouard and Imad Ibn Ziaten - alongside Merah's non-Muslim victims.

If when they enlisted they genuinely placed their allegiance to France ahead of their allegiance to the ummah, choosing to become French soldiers rather than hang about in the banlieu hatching resentment and living off welfare and/ or crime, then they were to that extent apostates manque and may be honestly mourned.

But, alas, since they were continuing to identify as Muslims, it is also possible that they were de facto Slow Jihadists who, had they not been killed by Mohammed Merah the Fast Jihadist, might themselves have one day flipped into 'Fast Jihad' mode and done a Fort Hood style 'insider killing'. Their deaths at Merah's hands may, ironically, have prevented much worse from happening, further down the track. We don't know. We can only go by probabilities.

And so for those two Muslim families, Legouad and Ziaten, whose soldier sons were murdered for being collaborators with the French infidel state, for being insufficiently-Islamic, my prayer is this and only this: that they may be liberated from Islam. That by the sovereign grace of the Holy One their eyes will be opened to see that it is Islam, Islam itself, that caused Merah to murder their sons; and that, per miraculum, they may one day apostasise.


The West loves a *Muslim* victim.
The Pakistani schoolgirl will survive, and become part of the problem, working hard to assure *us* that "The Taliban do not represent Islam; Islam is peaceful and loving", just as her family has already been doing, while Miriam is dead and cannot speak, but to the extent she is recognised will be seen by Muslims as representing a small part of the revenge that is due to them for Iraq, bin Laden, 1400 years of "oppression of Muslims", the "Palestinians", or whatever...they can choose anything and feel okay about it.

The oumma is a pile of blood dripping shit from this totalitarian ideology that is islam.

Dumbledore's Army, thank you for the additional details of Mohammed Merah's horrifying Jihad murder spree.

Here's a picture of little Miriam Monsonego:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-beWzSDylXYs/T2-MtIiZTqI/AAAAAAAAA6Q/nHMW-_FgWcs/s1600/toulouse-miriam-monsonego.jpg

More, in reply to LemonLime:

Re. Scott Sayare.

He may not necessarily be a dhimmi (any more than the judge 'Jack Zouhary' in the Randy Linn case).

I have noticed, here in Australia, that more and more one sees Mohammedans with 'non-Muslim-sounding' forenames or nicknames.
...................

Scott Sayare is either a Muslim apologist, or a Muslim himself.

Here's his fawning story about a thug who embraced Islam and became a rapper:

"A Rapper and Poet Pushes for a New French Identity of Inclusion"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/europe/rapper-abd-al-malik-pushes-for-new-french-identity.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Al Malik is another creep who chalks up all violence in France to "racism" and "poverty".

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