New York: Three Muslims charged with misunderstanding Islam, training to be jihad-martyrdom suicide bombers

Still more Muslims succumb to the all too prevalent misunderstanding of Islam that gets the crazy idea that it teaches some kind of violence. Yet no Muslim group anywhere has any program for teaching against this view of Islam. Now, why is that?

"Three Men Appear in Court in Mysterious Terror Case," by Mosi Secret in the New York Times, December 21:

Three men appeared in Federal District Court in Brooklyn on Friday on charges that they had trained to be suicide bombers with a Somali terrorist group.

The defendants, Ali Yasin Ahmed, 27, Mahdi Hashi, 23, and Mohamed Yusuf, 29, were arrested in August by authorities in Africa while going to Yemen. They are accused of participating in weapons and explosives training with Al Shabab, a United States-designated terrorist group linked to Al Qaeda, during a four-year period beginning in 2008. Court documents show no connection between the alleged crimes and the United States.

Much of the case is shrouded in mystery. For four months, the case remained under seal, and the court documents unsealed on Friday contained little elaboration on the crimes or any indication of why the case was brought in New York. Even the nationalities of the men were unclear. They appeared in court with the aid of a Swedish interpreter.

The case is not the first brought in New York involving foreigners accused of acts of terrorism abroad. In June, an Eritrean man, Mohamed Ibrahim Ahmed, pleaded guilty in Federal District Court in Manhattan to conspiring to support Al Shabab. More than 30 defendants have been prosecuted in this country for supporting the group.

Al Shabab is known for a strict Islamist ideology calling for amputations and public stonings for violations of Islamic law....

There we go again with "strict." There is no version of Islamic law that doesn't call for amputations and stonings. Islamic law is by its nature "strict."

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In the light of this new article is is very important to repeat that such a way of thinking as these jihadists have is in reality the result of the mind programing by the imams and mullahs from the Quran of a paradise with many virgins,houris, for the jihadits who dies for the cause of Islam. Such false teachers as these imams and mullahs who very thoroughly indoctrinate this type of myth/ doctrine into the hearts and minds of their students[victims] were predicted in the Bible. Which reads "For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate {endure} sound and wholesome instruction, but having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teachers after another to a considerable number, cjosen to satisfl their own liking and to foster the errors they hold, and will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man- made fictions." Second Timothy 4:3,4. Furthermore, this man, Muhammad, who started this all was just one of the "many false prophets[that]have gone forth in the world." First John 4;1. Also Islam has its own false message, false angle ans the false teachers of it,the mams and mullahs,are accursed by God, Galatians 1:6-9.


THE AMPLIFED BIBLE

In my last Bible quote in Second Timothy 4:3:4 I keyboarded error that should have read "chosen to satisfy..." Please forgive my mistake. By the way the reader might have noticed that the imams and mullahs who brainwash other people into the mindset of actually wanting to be suicide /homicide bombers are never the ones who go out and commit the act of suicide bombing all these Islamic clerics do in mind program other people into want to do it that then the imams and mullahs sent them out to the commit the act of suicide bombing. [Talk about using people] All at the same time thses same imams and mullahs sit in their nice safe homes. That in itself says a lot about the real character of these imamd and mullahs.

'All at the same time thses same imams and mullahs sit in their nice safe homes'.

And they send their children to premier institutes in Western[infidel] countries for
education.not to 'martyrdom' which is reserved for poor idiots.

These are good Muslims. They are true to their faith. Many, who go to church every Sunday in the US or Europe, are not nearly true to their belief. They make Christianity a laughing stock. They halleluah on Sunday; after Church they no different then the rest of the world. They are indifferent to the plight of Christians in Muslim countries. Christians in Muslim countries are true Christians because they must choose to die or give up Christianity.

Another three to add to the slammer.What is it about Islam that creates so many criminals?And what is about Islam that encourages criminal types to convert?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1416712/posts

only three this time?
M

Islam does not create criminals...It is not a crime in Islam to follow Allah's direction in Quran and the examples of Mahound...This is not crime, it is a blessing...and pleases Allah greatly...What you see as crime, they see as holy work...

Toronto canada has a similar problem with Somalis being coached to go jihad for allah. The head of a Somali group had the nerve to blame canada and insist the Government assure somali youths a 100% employment to steer them away from jihad.
WOW.....so when a somali muslim doesn't have a job the first fallback position is to be a suicide bomber???

From the article: "The defendants, Ali Yasin Ahmed, 27, Mahdi Hashi, 23, and Mohamed Yusuf, 29, were arrested in August by authorities in Africa while going to Yemen..".


Instead of being brought - expensively, and at American taxpayer expense - back to American soil to be - expensively - tried, they should - upon their arrest 'in Africa' - have been first stripped of their American passports and then packed off to Yemen post-haste.

The first mistake made by the Authorities in the Lands of the Infidels (that is, majority-non-Muslim lands, as yet ruled by non-Muslims and with non-Muslim laws still in force, even if we are nearly all now afflicted with expanding and aggressive colonies of Mohammedans) was to let *any* Mohammedans at all inside our gates in the first place.

The second mistake, however, is when we fail to realize that the sensible thing to do, when Mohammedan males of military age from *within* those Mohammedan colonies on our soil choose to *deport themselves* at their own expense back to those parts of dar al Islam where this or that faction is attempting to overthrow another faction deemed insufficiently Islamic or the wrong kind of Muslim, is to **let them go**...and having let them go, to annul their citizenship or residency of our lands, and place an absolute bar on their ever returning into our lands.

Let them go! And, once gone, once we are quite, quite sure that they have departed for purposes of waging Jihad amongst and against their fellow deemed-insufficiently-fervent Muslims, **never let them back in**.

They trained as suicide bombers. Imagine their instructor:

"OK guys I am only going to show you this once"

"..a paradise with many virgins.."

This "paradise of virgins" is the "carrot".
The "punishment of the grave" is the "stick".

A combination of both is the perfect doctrine that drives thousands of gullible Muslims to this kind of despair.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/08/torments-of-grave.html

Given their propensity to procreate, that is, their birthrate, the one-and-one-half billion Muhammadans which constitute slightly under a quarter of human population today, are projected to be over half of humanity before the end of this century. The uterus cannon is aimed directly at us and is firing nonstop.

I have my own ideas on this subject. I would like to hear opinions as to what we must do to prevent this hideous whelping from destroying us. Understand that they threaten us with not only cultural extirpation, but biological as well, as their swelling numbers dilute available resources and attack the very ability of our planet to support life.

Do we have the right to prolong our existence by shortening theirs? Can we not consider this an obligation? Do not two consecutive yeses constitute a mandate for action? And three yeses leave only the question of means, methods and starting point or trigger event.

I’d like to hear some thoughts.

If we the West don't collectively agree to round up Muslims and deport them all, we will be forced to do worse to them. Which is worse: to round them up and deport them, or to do worse to them? Apparently, the Leftists, the PC MCs and the majority of Counter-Jihadists all prefer to do nothing and wait until we are forced to do worse. And in the meantime, they accuse me of being the extremist. I believe the appropriate ejaculation at this juncture is "LOL".

A community of one female and ten males can produce only one baby, at most, every nine months.

But a community of one male and ten females can produce up to TEN babies every nine months.

So the problem seems to be the muslimas, rather than the jihadis.

We should definitely stop turning a blind eye to the polygamy that is rife amongst mohammedan communities (colonies?) in the civilized West.

And stop giving millions of tax-payer dollars to support the population increase in the backward mohammedan countries!

But a community of one male and ten females can produce up to TEN babies every nine months.

Indiscriminate and rapid breeding carries with it inherited blood conditions like hemophilia, other blood conditions, PKU babies emerging as a public health problem in Saudii Arabia...and increased mental retardation in the population...Each male infects ten babies who infect ten babies and so it expands...The bigger Islam gets from over breeding, the weaker and sicker it gets...

Part of the problem is, of course, that polygamy (polygyny, really) reduces genetic diversity over time; because - especially in a system like that run by the Muslims - only a limited number of male gene lines in each generational cohort (and fewer, and fewer, in successive generations) get to perpetuate themselves.

Roughly even numbers of boys and girls are born in human society; but under polygyny only a few of the males monopolise all the females, and this repeats, in the next generation, and the next; whereas long-running monogamy gives most male lines a chance to be perpetuated alongside the female lines, thus maximising diversity.

A polygynous system, to survive longterm - and especially if it abuses and kills off large numbers of its own females [FGM, 'honor' murders, general neglect, underage marriage followed by the girl's early death in first or second childbirth] , so as to make the polygyny-produced 'woman drought' even worse - has to 'cheat' by stealing fresh genetic material (in the shape of new women, representing new gene lines) from outside. It does that by using all its superfluous males - the ones who are prevented from getting wives within the system, and are therefore violent, discontented and horny - as cannon fodder (most of the women they catch in the slave raids and bring back, end up in the harems of the Gang Bosses, anyway).

If the rest of the world were to 'quarantine' the dar al Islam, and vigorously slap down all its attempts at stealing the genetic diversity that the rest of us have been sensibly maintaining by monogamy and outbreeding, then it would ultimately collapse.

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