Nigeria: Muslims murder six Christians at Christmas service

CNN says 12 people were massacred, not 6

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/25/world/africa/nigeria-christmas-attack/?hpt=hp_t2

Will the "islamophobia" ever end in Nigeria?.

For every bad or evil done by a muslim,

you can find 10 good things done by muslims to non-muslims

example : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Charity

"you can find 10 good things done by muslims to non-muslims"---

Besides thief, buffoon.

Muslims take anti-Christian protest to St Paul's Cathedral on Christmas Eve

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/418051/20121224/muslim-protest-christmas.htm

Savages, an apt description.

Meanwhile....

U.N. General Assembly voices concern for
Myanmar's Muslims

http://www.mobile.reuters.com/regional/article/idCABRE8BO00T20121225?edition=ca

What about concerns of the Nigerian christians? What about concerns of the pakistani christians and hindus.?
What about concerns of the thailand bhuddist?
What about the indonesian christians.
What about the iraqi christains
What about the irani christians and zoroasterians
What about the christians in syria
What about the christians in Egypt ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Muslims continue destroying Jewish antiquities on Temple Mount

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/163528

"The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force".

----John Quincy Adams, 1829

"The precept of the Koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force".

----John Quincy Adams, 1829

come on Robert

-the only way you will get any attention for the Christians being slaughtered is if you blame the Jews or ISraelis even better

Even the Popes (yes plural) only whine when they can blame the Jews

you know that!

The Popes would NEVER start a fight with the muslims-because they are afraid.

It's not like these Popes are attached to any moral principle truth, honor and sacrifice-they are corrupt politicians living la vida in red velvet slippers and gold embroidered robes-

-kinda nauseating, don't you tink?

@Charlston: when your Allah and his paedophile profit's followers kill, maim, rob and intimidate christians, they don't differentiate between Catholics and protestants.
One more thing the pope(s) have never nor will ever fear anyone least of all the muslims the western world owe the "popes" who organised the crusaders to defend it from Muslim invasion and incursions. So take you nonsense somewhere else

Ladies and gentlemen

the yahoo stringofletters whom I will refer to, for short, as JUuVA, above, and which is rabbiting on about nonexistent Mohammedan 'charity',

all the while hoping we won't remember that no zakat is supposed to go non-Muslim recipients and that zakat pays for, among other things, JIHAD (as explained, for example, in a very astute book called 'Alms for Jihad', which was heavily suppressed, but which some managed to read before the Muslim Lobby got it shut down),

and hoping that we won't remember Quran Surah 48: 29, about harshness/ sternness/ cruelty to non-muslims and compassion *only* among the Ummah [not much in evidence there, either, actually], and that we haven't heard about the core Islamic principle of al-walaa wa al-baraa, 'loyalty [to Muslims of the right variety, ONLY] and enmity [preferably expressed physically and politically, not merely in speech or thought] toward non-Muslims', and the fact that any Muslim 'charity' toward non-Muslims is given if and only if the Muslim thinks there is a chance of 'reconciling hearts', that is, of *buying the recipients'' conversion to Islam, there are ALWAYS Islamic strings attached

is nothing other than the egregious 'peter', formerly also known as '45ch' and, a long time ago in these threads, as 'loveverybody'.

I'd swear to that.

Ignore it. It's a Muslim or a dhimmi, but most likely a Muslim, and it's a dreadful bandersnatch and sand-thrower.

Muslim anti-Semitism in France

'When ...Sarkozy proposed a minute of silence in schools for the [Toulouse] victims, Muslim students in some schools were unwilling...

... Since the beginning of this century, Muslim anti-Semitism has become the most extreme form of Jew-hatred in France

... We told the leaders from representative Muslim bodies that they should condemn the Merah murders. They did condemn them, but mainly to try to prove that Muslims were also victims of Mohamed Merah, because his deeds had fueled "Islamophobia"'

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12638

aaarrrggghhhh......there's that GUNMEN baloney yet again! EVERYDAY it's GUNMEN killing Christians around the world! Gunmen, rebels, militia, insurgents, assailants, blah, blah, ad nauseam - no, you idiot lily-livered media it's ISLAMIC MUSLIM TERRORISTS doing these RELIGIOUSLY ISLAMIC INSPIRED HATE CRIMES AGAINST CHRISTIANS AND OTHER RELIGIONS- GOT IT??!!! For once, tell it like it really is!!! Even many of the most thick-headed liberals are starting to get irritated by this anonymous "gunmen" nonsense judging by the comments they leave on these daily reports.

I hope the Christians fight back.

Yup, JUuVA is the disgusting 45ch/loveverybody/peter mohammedan dementor, trying its whataboutery again.

It pretends that the - time-limited, and distinctly space-limited - conquest of Canaan (which represents an absolutely *minuscule* portion of the earth's surface) is equivalent to the Mohammedan dream of Total World Domination and the enforcement of the hideousness of sharia willy-nilly upon every single human being on the face of the planet, all six or so billion non-Muslims, and upon every inch of the planet.

It pretends that countless regional jihad genocides - of Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, animist black Africans (and of deemed-inferior black Muslim, and of Christians - at least 2 million black Christians slaughtered, robbed, raped, enslaved in southern Sudan by allahu-akbaring mohammedthugs - didn't happen and aren't happening.

I wonder what excuse the Dementor will offer if the Muslims in Egypt start in in earnest on the wholesale public butchery of the eight to ten million Christians in Egypt? If *all* two million or so Christians in Syria are butchered down to the last man, woman and child?

Will it still be robotically squawking, 'but what about Deuteronomy!!!'?

Jacques Ellul, on Jihad. Just to repeat.

http://www.dhimmi.org/Foreword.html

"...a major, twofold fact transforms the jihad into something quite different from traditional wars, waged for ambition and self-interest, with limited objectives, where the "normal" situation is peace between peoples - war, in itself, constituting a dramatic event which must end in a return to peace.

"This twofold factor is first the religious nature, then the fact that war has become an institution (and no longer an "event"). Jihad is generally translated as "holy war" (this term is not satisfactory): and this suggests both that this war is provoked by strong religious feeling, and then that its first object is not so much to conquer land as to Islamize the populations.

"This war is a religious duty.

"It will probably be said that every religion in its expanding phase carries the risks of war, that history records hundreds of religious wars and it is now a commonplace to make this connection.

" Hence, religious passion is thus sometimes expressed in this manner.

"But it is, in fact, "passion" - it concerns mainly a fact which it would be easy to demonstrate does not correspond to the fundamental message of the religion.

"This disjuncture is obvious for Christianity. {memo to the Mohammedtroll: Christians do not regard the temporal instructions issued at the time of and solely for the Conquest of Canaan, or perhaps in connection with the ancient Israelites' self-defence - once established in Canaan within defined boundaries - when attacked by neighbours, as having any relevance at all to their personal or national existence; these statements are part of past history, finished and done with. - dda}

"In Islam, on the contrary, jihad is a religious obligation. It forms part of the duties that the believer must fulfil; it is Islam's normal path to expansion.

"And this is found repeatedly dozens of times in the Koran.

"Therefore, the believer is not denying the religious message.

"Quite the reverse, jihad is the way he best obeys it.

"And the facts which are recorded meticulously and analyzed clearly show that the jihad is not a "spiritual war" but a real military war of conquest....".

Joseph Schacht said the same, plain and clear, in his scholarly tome, 'An Introduction to Islamic Law':

"The basis of the Islamic attitude towards unbelievers is the law of war; they must be converted, or subjugated, or killed".

The Hebrew scriptures - yes, even the harshest and most archaic portions of the TaNaKh *never* envisage Israel embarking upon a temporal program of ruthless conquest with the aim of forcing all nations everywhere, upon the entire face of the globe, to submit to the Mosaic code; nor did Israel ever exhibit any inclination or attempt to carry out such a programme. They show no imperial ambition such as was seen in, for example, pagan Rome. There are warlike passages in the Psalms, but they must be read in the context of Israel's self-defence against much larger and more powerful surrounding nations.

Anyway, back to the Islamic doctrine of Jihad, which John Roy Carlson, having met the big bosses of the Ikhwan or Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo in the 1948, summed up (in his book 'Cairo to Damascus', 1951) as 'Islam, Islam, Ueber Alles'.

Here's another very astute and lucid westerner summing the whole thing up, back in 1994.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/26087

Monday, 22 February 2010
From The Annals Of Serendip: Patrick L. Moore

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/GUERRA.HTM
FROM "COLD WAR" TO GUERRA FRIA?
Patrick L. Moore

"There are five especially critical aspects about Islam's doctrine of jihad which must be brought out to properly understand the significance of Islam as it relates to the United States and the West (and, for that matter, to every non-Muslim society and polity on earth, past and present - dda).

" In summary,

"the meaning of jihad in its primary sense is military and coercive;

"it is central to the universalist doctrine of the Islamic belief system;

"its operational aim is political domination of non-Islamic territories (i.e. rather than forced conversion);

"it is offensive or aggressive in nature in the first instance (and not merely "defensive");

"and, finally, jihad is continuous in character (i.e. pending the ultimate victory of the forces of Islam)."

(And for Muslims, that 'ultimate victory' will only be when every human being on earth has become a Muslim, or become a despised and abused dhimmi near slave, or been exterminated; and when Muslims rule, everywhere, from the North Pole to the South Pole and all points in between. and only sharia, sharia, sharia, complete with the head-choppings and floggings and stonings and the wedding and bedding of prepubescent girls, and when all music, all representational art, and even the innocent keeping of pet dogs, have ceased to exist ).

The proper response to the time-wasting, sly, sneering, sand-throwing likes of JUuVA is the response of Gandalf to Wormtongue in the Hall of Rohan - 'Down, snake! Down on your belly!...I will not linger here to bandy crooked words with a serving man till the lightning falls".

The sly and despicable mohammedan BS artist above continues with his attempts at whataboutery and BS, engaging in sophistical nit-picking.

At all costs he is out to divert our attention from and prevent us from intelligently discussing what Mohammedans are doing to outnumbered and largely defenceless Christians in Nigeria - Christians whose leaders oppose private vigilante violence and have in general counselled their flocks to rely upon the duly established government for the restraining of the evil engaged in by the Mohammedans.

You will notice that he has not expressed even the tiniest squeak or whimper of sympathy for those suffering Christians; he has NOT posted anything condemning the Muslim murderers; and he is instead taking up large amounts of bandwidth trying to pretend that Christianity and Judaism are just as bad as Islam, and that Christians and Jews are as genocidally violent as Mohammedans have always been. (I doubt that he sees genocidal violence engaged in by *Muslism* as a bad thing; all he's trying to do, is to confuse, and to press guilt buttons).

He hopes we haven't heard of Ibn Khaldun, a Muslim who himself clearly distinguished the imperative of universal conquest that is hardwired into Islam, as part of the religion, from the very different Jewish and Christian way of thinking about war and violence.

Muslim war was offensive, to spread Islam and to gain dominance over all others (and, of course, Ibn Khaldun being an out and out Mohammedan supremacist, sees *nothing* morally wrong with this at all, at all, at all); jewish and Christian warfare was primarily *defensive*.

That was how Ibn Khaldun saw it.

I like to which all Christians merry Christmas and happy holidays …a little late ..

I am sorry about all the Killing Christians are facing all over … it pains me to read about it …

The of killing every day by Muslims among themselves and against others,

becoming a blur …it is dizzying ?

Savage Islam, begets Savage Muslim … it is that simple .

He was being sumpn', all right; not sure it was "aphorismic", however...

@Juvva you wrote

The whole mess was started by a devout Catholic
named Nzeogwu.
On 15 January 1966, Major Kaduna Nzeogwu and
other junior Army officers (mostly majors and
captains) attempted a coup d'état. It was
generally speculated that the coup had been
initiated by the Igbos, and for their own primary
benefit, because of the ethnicity of those that
were killed. The two major political leaders of the
north, The prime Minister, Sir Abubakar Tafawa
Balewa and The Premier of the northern region,
Sir Ahmadu Bello were executed by Major
Nzeogwu

If you want to talk about history why not say it as it should be. Nigeria has experienced a lot of successful and unsuccessful coup d'etat's by the military of that countries. What happened in 1966 is not an excuse for what is happening now. Matter of Fact in 1967 Nigeria fought a civil war which the Muslim north proceeded to kill over 2 million Igbo's ( a genocide that went unnoticed by the MSM as the igbos were termed rebels ). This was the first full scale jihad as Egyptian, Algeria and Sudanese Fighter jets came to the aid of the Nigerian Army bombing villages filled with defenceless women and children.
The present predicament of the Nigerian christians is as a result of muslim refusal to accept the democratically elected president who happen to be a Christian from the Igbo tribe. It is also important to note that since the end of the civil war in Nigeria 1967- 1970. All successive "military" dictators have been Muslims, Up until 2010 when the current president Goodluck Jonathan.
Boko Haram the islamic sect that is responsible for terrorism in Nigeria was established in 2011.
So stop claiming the victim ( I know it hard since you're a muslim ) and start telling the truth

Jeez some nincompoop wrote this:

“muslims do a lot more good than bad”

wow whatta bald-faced lie!!! ...hey not even John Deere could carry out that load of crap.

@ the 10 good acts troll

Can you give precise info about charity extended by Muslim organisations to help the Jewish families who had their innocent, sleeping children's throats cut by Jihadists, and to the families of the 9/11 jihad attack, and the recent victims of Islamic jihad, who were simply trying to eradicate polio in Afghanistan? Thanks!

Precise info, I said. Not some figure plucked out of the air, you clown!

"This was the first full scale jihad as Egyptian, Algeria and Sudanese Fighter jets came to the aid of the Nigerian Army bombing villages filled with defenceless women and children. "

Yes, but pnly the first 20th century jihad against W AFricans; Muslims had been waging jihad there (and elsewhere in the Dark Continent) for centuries before -- only temporarily slowed down by the intrusion of the Colonial West for a while.

OT: Petition. Folks, please read and consider signing this petition against the Obama administration's blocking of Islam-critical websites from Department of Defense computers. I've signed in and signed it. It only takes a minute.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-lift-dod-ban-websites-critical-islam/TRxYJ7b4

we petition the obama administration to: Immediately lift the DoD ban on websites critical of Islam. Immediately end the Department of Defense's ban of websites critical of Islam! This is a violation of free speech and freedom of religion. Sites such as www.thereligionofpeace.com , www.islam-watch.com , www.wikiislam.net , and others are being blocked on DoD computers on grounds of being hate speech. This is not true! Islam preaches hate, violence against non-believers, and intolerance, NOT its opponents. End this unconstitutional censorship now. People in the Department of Defense, especially members of the military that have to go to these Islam-dominated countries and risk their lives to defend the Constitution of the United States have a right to a balanced view of Islam, including websites that are critical of it. Created: Dec 04, 2012 Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Human Rights, Veterans and Military Families

Some general discussion that is pertinent to the subject of Nigeria, and Jihad, the jihad that the Muslim ummah, steadily grinding its way down through black Africa from the north toward the south for 1200 awful years, is continuing today in Nigeria and in many other places – eg Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya, in South Africa via its beachfront among the Cape Malays, and the Indian Muslims who came in during the period of the Raj, and in West (Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sierra Leone) and Central (Cameroon, Chad, Central African Republic) Africa.

First, former frequent contributor to this forum, Hugh Fitzgerald, on the subject of the Biafra War, which was a classic jihad.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/12/fitzgerald-remember-biafra.html

Fitzgerald: Remember Biafra!

"During the Biafra War of 1967-1969, which was triggered by a massacre by Muslims of Christians, the entire Western world stood by and allowed the Muslims of the North to slaughter the Christian, mainly Ibo, south.

"These Muslims were aided by outside Muslims, including Egyptian pilots who strafed and bombed Ibo villages, killing tens of thousands -- without any opposition, anti-aircraft fire, anything.

"The war was brought on by the Jihad against the Christian Ibo and other Christian peoples of southern Nigeria by the Hausa and Fulani Muslims of the north

(Islam itself was spread most recently in the 1804 Jihad declared by Othman Dan Fodio), and by the desperate attempt of the Ibo (Igbo) people to free themselves from Muslim aggression.

"Tens of thousands of civilians were murdered --- by the Egyptian pilots who repeatedly bombed and strafed them...".

And now for some straight talking about Islam, which again illuminates exactly what they are up to in Nigeria, and makes nonsense of our mohammedan's whining attempt to claim that the Christians in Nigeria are responsible for the mass-murdering jihad raids that Boko Haram are carrying out.

Sultan Knish/ Daniel Greenfield on Islam as a system that, at its core, is pure thuggery, or perhaps Nietzsche's amoral Will To Power, codified and sacralised. A posting called 'Islam Uber Alles', which consciously or unconsciously echoes a chapter title from John Roy Carlson's 'Cairo to Damascus', in which he discusses the Ikhwan, the Muslim Brotherhood, 'World of the Koran: Islam Uber Alles'.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/islam-uber-alles.html

"...Islam only seeks one thing. Supremacy. Contained within that word is the sum of its religious ambitions, its collective will to power and its dream of a better world. When infidels bow, their faith in their own creed is strengthened.

"When the infidels resist, that refusal to submit drives them into a fierce hysteria that is equal parts insecurity and equal parts repression manifesting as violence.

"As a religion, Islam is the faith of those impoverished in spirit, deprived of any aspiration but power over others.

"It is a slave's copy [or, I would say, "a would-be slavemaster's and pimp's and gang boss's occult reversal "- dda} of Judaism, Christianity and the existing religions of the region, turned into a religion of slaves whose goal is the enslavement of mankind.

"Jihad is the only vital element of Islam because it is the only thing that gives it meaning. It is the means of its reproduction and the incarnation of its mission...".

And whenever the Mohammedans who wish to be pimp, gang boss and slavemaster run into any sort of resistance - if they stretch out their claw and someone brings a 4 X 2 down hard and precisely upon it - they squeal blue murder. They whine and moan over their past defeats and nurse their grudges.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html
Sunday, November 13, 2011
The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances

(And legitimizing (imaginary, or in a few cases partially real but grossly exaggerated - dda) Muslim 'grievances' is *exactly* what our Mohammedtroll JuUVa is attempting to do, by various sleights of hand; besides his laughable attempts to paint Islam and the Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, and its Thug Code, its Unlaw or Antilaw that is Sharia, in the rosiest possible colours).

"There is no surer path to Muslim violence than through the legitimization of Muslim grievance.
And once you accept the legitimacy of the grievance, then you are also bound to accept the legitimacy of the violence that follows.

Violence begins with grievance.
Grievance is the pretext for violence and the narrative for the violence.
...
Grievance is the stories that Muslims tell themselves to justify their violence.
To explain why they kill children and why they murder the innocent.
The list of grievances is an endless as the violence.
Every act of violence carries its own narrative.
The endless Muslim conflicts throughout the world all carry their burden of history.
But it isn't a history that can be resolved with a tolerance session.
**Muslim grievances are the frustration of conquerors, the broken teeth of predators who weren't allowed to feed on the world until their stomachs burst.
All the lands they couldn't conquer, the peoples who rebelled against their rule, the inferior civilizations that pushed them back and drove them off. ** {my emphasis - dda}
The swine who build skyscrapers and enjoy the fine things in life...".

Bear those two little essays in mind, when reading reports on the Jihad in Nigeria, or in the Philippines, or Thailand, or anywhere else at all that Mohammedans are attempting to seize turf and crush - or drive out - non-Muslims and/ or invade or (from within) overthrow a non-Muslim polity.

that's the muslims way to say '' merry Christmas ''
i wonder how long will non muslims will keep this policy of appeasement !!! Its time to stand up to those SOBS and If not the free world are not willing to do it then don't expect much from poor Christians in Nigeria to do anything about it

I'm sorry I missed the girl with the long name...She was all over the taqiyya weegee board...Conjuring up the spirits of long dead prophets...Haha...I need to talk to her about inner spiritual struggle jihad...Increasing the duration and frequency would help a lot...

that's the muslims way to say '' merry Christmas ''
i wonder how long will non muslims will keep this policy of appeasement !!! Its time to stand up to those SOBS and If not the free world are not willing to do it then don't expect much from poor Christians in Nigeria to do anything about it

There should be a way to help the Christians of Nigeria who are being persecuted so viciously. This is a great site to stay informed about what's going on but there is a need for readers to know how they cn help. Maybe some information about organizations including in Nigeria who are trying to help the security situation.

Dear Champ and gravenimage,

May both of you and those you hold most dear have a memorable Christmas season. And Happy New Year as well. Take care, my friends.

Archeologists have discovered much about the ancient Canaanites. One thing they did was to engage in conduct to produce children for sacrifice to their false god. Once the children were living, they engaged in terrible acts to kill them for their false god.

One thing that was done was to put the child inside the walls of a new house so their false god would "bless" the structure.

Archeologists have found cemetaries full of jars with the remains of tiny children...thousands of tiny children, besides the remains found in the walls of the homes.

The True God of the Bible is against the perpetration of evil against children, even one's own children, even when done for religious reasons.

This is the "lesson" from Deuteronomy for those who would sacrifice their children to false gods today. For "honor" or any other "religious" false reasoning.

The account there can not be successfully used to justify killing today of innocents who follow Christ.