Pakistan: Islamic supremacists, outraged by paintings, threaten violence

If these paintings depicted Catholic priests, the artists would be getting grants and articles praising them in the New York Times, which would suddenly remember that it's against censorship. No Catholics would be threatening any violence. But this story is just more of the same: Muslims outraged by perceived "insults to Islam" reacting with violent threats, and the objects of those threats caving in. No one will take particular note of this. "Paintings Outrage Islamic Hard-Liners in Pakistan," by Asif Shahzad for the Associated Press, December 28:

Pakistan's leading arts college has pushed boundaries before in this conservative nation. But when a series of paintings depicting Muslim clerics in scenes with strong homosexual overtones sparked an uproar and threats of violence by Islamic extremists, it was too much.

Officials at the National College of Arts in the eastern city of Lahore shut down its academic journal, which published the paintings, pulled all its issues out of bookstores and dissolved its editorial board. Still, a court is currently considering whether the paintings' artist, the journal's board and the school's head can be charged with blasphemy.

The college's decision to cave to Islamist pressure underscores how space for progressive thought is shrinking in Pakistan as hardline interpretations of Islam gain ground. It was also a marked change for an institution that has long been one of the leading defenders of liberal views in the country.

Pakistan is an overwhelmingly Muslim nation, and the majority of its citizens have long been fairly conservative. But what has grown more pronounced in recent years is the power of religious hardliners to enforce their views on members of the population who disagree, often with the threat of violence.

The government is caught up in a war against a domestic Taliban insurgency and often seems powerless to protect its citizens. At other times it has acquiesced to hardline demands because of fear, political gain or a convergence of beliefs.

"Now you have gun-toting people out there on the streets," said Saleema Hashmi, a former head of arts college. "You don't know who will kill you. You know no one is there to protect you."

The uproar was sparked when the college's Journal of Contemporary Art and Culture over the summer published pictures of a series of paintings by artist Muhammad Ali.

Particularly infuriating to conservatives were two works that they said insulted Islam by mixing images of Muslim clerics with suggestions of homosexuality, which is deeply taboo in Pakistan.

One titled "Call for Prayer" shows a cleric and a shirtless young boy sitting beside each other on a cot. The cleric fingers rosary beads as he gazes at the boy, who seductively stretches backward with his hands clasped behind his head.

Mumtaz Mangat, a lawyer who petitioned the courts to impose blasphemy charges, argued the image implied the cleric had "fun" with the boy before conducting the traditional Muslim call for prayer.

A second painting shows the same cleric reclining in front of a Muslim shrine, holding a book by Brazilian novelist Paulo Coelho in one hand as he lights a cigarette for a young boy with the other. A second young boy, who is naked with his legs strategically crossed to cover his genitals, sits at the cleric's feet. The painting has caused particular uproar because verses from Islam's holy book, the Quran, appear on the shrine.

Aasim Akhtar, an Islamabad-based art critic who wrote an essay accompanying the paintings in the journal, wrote that Ali's mixing of images was "deliberately, violently profane," aimed at challenge "homophobic" beliefs that are widespread in Pakistani society.

"Ali redefines the divine through a critique of authority and the hypocrisy of the cleric," wrote Akhtar, an Islamabad-based art critic who is also listed as a potential defendant in the blasphemy complaint.

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"Pakistan is an overwhelmingly Muslim nation, and the majority of its citizens have long been fairly conservative. "

Over 70% of Pakistani Muslims support DEATH FOR BLASPHEMY and DEATH FOR APOSTASY.

That's not "fairly conservative". That's monstrously to the right of Genghis Fucking Khan, you bloody idiots, Asif Shahzad "for the Associated Press" and all his white non-Muslim editors and publishers at the Associated Press.

"Particularly infuriating to conservatives... "---

You're "right-wing/conservative" if you're an islamonazi and you're "right-wing/conservative" if you're a non-muslim westerner who opposes islamonazism.

Oh, the buffoonery. Will it ever end?.

O/T:
Last night I got kicked out of the pub again. I had been kicked out a year or so ago for saying to the man next to me, "So you wouldn't pick up a gun to defend your country?" The barman overheard me, said, "We don't like guns here," and told me to leave.
I heard there was a good band playing so I sneaked in quietly last night. Didn't work. Eyes turned. Did they think I was Clint Eastwood coming in to take revenge? (Well, I'm a woman...Annie Oakley?) After a little while (it was Cajun music!)a man there bravely gave me a dirty look and told me I had to go. He told me I was a "racist".
On the way home I wondered how being in favour of defending your country when necessary can be seen as "racist".
Silly me. If our country is attacked, it would probably be by foreigners. But the concept of foreigner is gone in this PCMC world, so firing back at a foreigner would be "racist". Much better to put your hands over your eyes, I suppose, so you don't have to see the gun pointing at you.
I think that's the logic, anyway.
Pity about the Cajun music!

A bit confused in my thinking there...but it can be difficult tyring to fathom the PC mindset. Maybe LemonLime can explain it better.

Pakistan: Islamic supremacists, outraged by paintings, threaten violence
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Don't they always? No Western critics, no matter how outraged, react with violence.

More:

Officials at the National College of Arts in the eastern city of Lahore shut down its academic journal, which published the paintings, pulled all its issues out of bookstores and dissolved its editorial board. Still, a court is currently considering whether the paintings' artist, the journal's board and the school's head can be charged with blasphemy.
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Cringing compliance is never enough. Examples must be made. Heads must roll. (And unlike in the civilized West, one cannot be sure that this is just a figure of speech).

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The college's decision to cave to Islamist pressure underscores how space for progressive thought is shrinking in Pakistan as hardline interpretations of Islam gain ground. It was also a marked change for an institution that has long been one of the leading defenders of liberal views in the country.
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Pakistan has been abysmal since its bloody founding in 1947. But now—like so much of the Muslim world—it is further Islamizing, with all the predictable constriction of freedom that that entails...

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The government is caught up in a war against a domestic Taliban insurgency and often seems powerless to protect its citizens. At other times it has acquiesced to hardline demands because of fear, political gain or a convergence of beliefs.
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These are one and the same. Pakistan cannot properly protect its citizens against the Taliban because most Pakistanis—*including those in government and the military*—largely agree with their vile aims.

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"Now you have gun-toting people out there on the streets," said Saleema Hashmi, a former head of arts college. "You don't know who will kill you. You know no one is there to protect you."
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No. In fact, the pious populace would likely throw rose petals at the killer...

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Particularly infuriating to conservatives were two works that they said insulted Islam by mixing images of Muslim clerics with suggestions of homosexuality, which is deeply taboo in Pakistan.
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Adult men—including Muslim clerics—abusing and raping boys is extraordinarily common in Islam. It is widely winked at, but not to be mentioned...

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"Ali redefines the divine through a critique of authority and the hypocrisy of the cleric," wrote Akhtar, an Islamabad-based art critic who is also listed as a potential defendant in the blasphemy complaint.
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No one would bat an eye at such a "deconstructionist" approach in the West.

In the "land of the Pure", though, they just threaten to bring you up on blasphemy charges, and then murder you...

A bit confused in my thinking there...but it can be difficult tyring to fathom the PC mindset. Maybe LemonLime can explain it better.

(I hope this doesn't come up twice. This comment section has gone a bit mad lately.)

PJG wrote:

Last night I got kicked out of the pub again...
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Good grief, PJG. Where is this happening?

It usually takes a lot more to get not only kicked out of a bar here, but actually banned. I'm trying to think what might accomplish that—maybe regularly starting bar fights and smashing up the place?

Even here in the oh so politically-correct, anti-gun San Francisco bay area, I couldn't imagine anyone getting thrown out and banned for suggesting people take up arms and defend their country. You might not have a lot of drinking buddies, but that's about as far as it would go...

They are probably depictions of Allah's Paradise where there are 'boys pure as pearls'...
They come in handy when the virgins need to take a break due to sheer exhaustion...

you are right on the money. After all 72 virgin servicing thousands of martyrs is a monumental task!!!!!
M

This is sunny Australia I'm talking about...an inner-city area, where if ther's any sand around people kick it in their own faces, if you know what I mean. Patriotism is OUT: totally uncool; the Australian flag is considered "divisive" and people think we don't need an army. Disband the army and hope for the best, a friend suggested, unforgettably.

hang in there and keep up the fight. It will be our turn some day. that is for sure. Mar xmass!!!!
M

Am in complete agreement with you, LL. One of the most abused words nowadays in English is the word "conservative." I wish folks who abuse this word would stop being ignorant (either by way of stupidity or complicity).

Once and for all, when describing barbarians on the extreme Right, "reactionary" should be the word of choice. When describing barbarians on the extreme Left, "radical" should be opted for. Of course, both clueless groups could collectively be called "extremists," "wackos," "idiots," or "fools" and this would suffice as well.

After all 72 virgin servicing thousands of martyrs is a monumental task!!!!!

If they are fast they last longer but eventually even the fastest wear out and need some new parts...It's a tough death being a celestial virgin...

I think the correct title should be - "Pakistan: Islamists are outraged and threaten violence"

This is norm in Islam. The rest of the stuff is an excuse.

No matter where, Islamists ALWAYS intimidate and threaten the others.

After all 72 virgin servicing thousands of martyrs is a monumental task!!!!!

LOL, miriam! I imagine that the "martyrs" haven't figured that one out yet!

"There's"
Had to rush. The rainbow lorikeets were all over my almond tree, gorging themselves on MY ALMONDS!!

Pakistan's leading arts school? This must be a hoax.

OT...Your Almonds? You don't own any almonds...other people own them, mostly bridge and road builders...
Seriously, it sounds like you need a tree net...I have seen them but have no idea how to get one over a large tree...

"..images of Muslim clerics with suggestions of homosexuality, which is deeply taboo in Pakistan."

Deeply taboo? why? is it some kind of...cover-up?

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2012/10/was-muhammad-gay.html

I don't think so, miriam rove: those pacifists might kill me!!!

PJG wrote:

This is sunny Australia I'm talking about...
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Thanks, PJG. I *should* have remembered where you were from, but I just couldn't recall. Too much eggnog, perhaps...

The nations of the West are now vying with one another over how suicidal they can be. Before 2008, I would have been rather confident about the United States being one of the most solid anti-dhimmi of countries, but with the election—and even more insanely, the *re-election* of Barack Hussein Obama to the White House, I can no longer be so smug.

I hope you are having a great Christmas week—these idiot pub owners notwithstanding.

OT—my husband is also a big fan of Cajun music. He goes to JazzFest in New Orleans most years, which includes a lot of Cajun music along with Jazz and Zydeco.

Here are some Christmas carols done Cajun style to get you in the seasonal mood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhcFt9KBSg

PJG, I understand how you feel. You don't have to be in public to see many disagree with you. I personally have learned, that even here at Jihad Watch, some people distort my words and said things I have never said then attack the straw man. So I am with you. I am pleased to hear that you wanted me to not give up posting. If fact, I almost did because my words were distorted by some people who jumped into wrong conclusion. They over imagined what I wrote instead of reading what's written. PJG, we are a world apart, but I am in your shoes.

I first joint Jihad Watch in 2006; I stopped posting from 2008 to late 2012. I am here because of Christmas, but after this, I will be too busy. Besides, I get no pay for posting anyway. Nice meeting you. I notice many who came here have quit, except duh swami. I know him since long ago. He never attacked me. He is very funny.

Thanks, but I don't have one as yet. So I put up some "Bird scare" humming tape and a black metal cat in the branches. It's worked, and my garden is bird-free, for now.

H'mmm...it's given me an idea..."Muslim Scare" products: there could be a buck in it.
Whoops, sorry if I've offended all the "moderate Muslims" fans. "Sharia Scare", perhaps?

If these paintings depicted Catholic priests, the artists would be getting grants and articles praising them in the New York Times, which would suddenly remember that it's against censorship. No Catholics would be threatening any violence

Uh, Robert,

I am Catholic, born on Long Island, New York, around the days of Mickey Mantle. If one of these islamic turds so much as insulted Catholicism in front of me, that little islamic turd would wake up in the emergency room of the nearest hospital. Would I threaten it first? In a word ... no.

So, yeah, I guess I haven't threatened the little brainless islamic (aren't they all brainless, really, 72 virgins, martyrdom, ok, etc.,) turd ?

R/

Paleologos

I notice many who came here have quit, except duh swami. I know him since long ago. He never attacked me. He is very funny.

Thanks ssa...I'm happy I never attacked you...
But you are right, I have been posting here a long time, that's because I prefer the company of winners...Sorry you have to leave...Have a good life...as those wise orientals say...'Live long and prosper'...

Oh,

By the way,

"Pakistan's leading arts college" ...

hahahahahahahahahahaha

"arts college"

hahahahahahahahahahaha

Yeah right, "arts" ... what kind of arts, oh wait ...

I do have some islamic art:

http://intoxicatedmehedi.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/koran_image2.jpg

R/

Paleologos

"Pakistan: Islamic supremacists, outraged by paintings, threaten violence"

Gosh! I never knew Pakistan has paintings left. The Pakistanis know Islam and Art do not mix. Perhaps the Art school students start drawing cartoons instead, LOL.

I can imagine all those cartoons signed by "Mohamad"s - Islam in many ways is wacky twisted and rouged that it is actually hilarious. A cartoonist Muslim called Mohammad - LOL.

PJG replied to comment from duh_swami | December 28, 2012 3:09 PM | Reply

H'mmm...it's given me an idea..."Muslim Scare" products: there could be a buck in it.
Whoops, sorry if I've offended all the "moderate Muslims" fans. "Sharia Scare", perhaps?

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PJG,

Whenever I'm around a bunch of these annoying islamic turds, this poster I carry in the trunk of my car seems to make the muslims vanish, not unlike when you turn on the kitchen light, around 3:25 AM, and to your horror, scatter a few cockroaches ....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HmTnVKpnrks/TybvIqjqZ6I/AAAAAAAAGns/jJsFVXzNWdk/s1600/Crusader.jpg

... which supports my theory that muslims are cockroaches.

R/

Paleologos

SSa " I personally have learned, that even here at Jihad Watch, some people distort my words and said things I have never said then attack the straw man."

My teardrops are doing press-ups in my eyes. You are by no means an innocent as you claim to be ssa. You start provoking others, including me, when I responded you called me a Muslim. Either you apology for that stupid remark of yours or I am going to "correct you" for any mistake you'll make on this site.

The truth always hurts wuslims tender wittle fweelings which includes perceived "insults" about islam ...

And is it an insult to tell someone that their breath stinks? ...especially if it reeks!

Okay perhaps that's a bad analogy where islam is concerned, but you get the idea.

Muslims are a flock of perpetually Angry Birds murderously hurling themselves with the slingshot of Muhammad at those tampering with their precious eggs Just hope the one they direct at you is of the quill variety. That bomb bird is a real bitch...

PJG, I think you have a pretty good handle on our unfortunate situation, beholden to our PC MC fellows -- and not just dastardly Elites, as PJG's story shows, but ordinary guys in a bar for crying out loud.

As for Australia, I realize it's a vast sprawling land with different regions; however, I keep hearing that it's "not PC" down there. One very INcorrect Aussie I knew, who came of age in the late 70s, told me that beginning in the 80s Australia went through a cultural transformation and pretty much became thoroughly PC (with exceptions that prove the rule: Howard would be Australia's Reagan, so to speak).

Yes Wellington; reactionary is the correct term, and it's a shame more editors throughout the mainstream media don't blue-pencil it in to replace their Third World reporters' solecisms.

Hi, BlueRaven! ...yea we know that you aren't a muslim and it makes me laugh that anyone would say that about you. Take care and have a terrific New Year :)

Thanks Champ! Wish you and yours the same. Have a blast.

BlueRave, go to the other post and read my accepting your apology and also apologize to you. Go to the post and read. It will make you very happy as we have never quarreled before. A gentleman speak to a gentleman. You are friend now.

Blueraven, want to see you rejoice before New Year.

"And is it an insult to tell someone that their breath stinks? ...especially if it reeks! "

It is an absolutely brilliant analogy Champ.

If you tell someone that their breath smells like roses ... even if it reeks like a rotten egg, they will like you.

That is pretty much one-to-one about Muslims.

Thank you, BlueRaven, and that's very funny; I couldn't lie to someones face if they had bad breath, lol :) ...and if islam actually had a smell then it would definitely be the foulest smell on earth! ...perhaps like super strong sulfur mixed with dead corpses, oh my that would smell reeeally awful.

BlueRaven, Gravenimage, dumbledroesarmy, I accept your criticisms. Since I already got a handshake with BlueRaven. I am off now.

Happy New Year to all Jihadwatchers.

ssa wrote:

BlueRaven, Gravenimage, dumbledroesarmy, I accept your criticisms. Since I already got a handshake with BlueRaven. I am off now.

Happy New Year to all Jihadwatchers.
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Happy New Year to you, as well, ssa! Despite our disagreements, I hope you continue to post here.

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