Soros-funded Human Rights Watch: Iran's genocidal calls for annihilation of Israel not "incitement," but "advocacy"

How compromised and in thrall to Islamic supremacism is the Left? This much. "Dancing Around Genocide," by David Feith in the Wall Street Journal, December 4 (thanks to Paul):

Is promoting genocide a human-rights violation? You might think that's an easy question. But it isn't at Human Rights Watch, where a bitter debate is raging over how to describe Iran's calls for the destruction of Israel. The infighting reveals a peculiar standard regarding dictatorships and human rights and especially the Jewish state.
Human Rights Watch is the George Soros-funded operation that has outsize influence in governments, newsrooms and classrooms world-wide. Some at the nonprofit want to denounce Iran's regime for inciting genocide. "Sitting still while Iran claims a 'justification to kill all Jews and annihilate Israel' . . . is a position unworthy of our great organization," Sid Sheinberg, the group's vice chairman, wrote to colleagues in a recent email.

But Executive Director Kenneth Roth, who runs the nonprofit, strenuously disagrees.

Asked in 2010 about Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's statement that Israel "must be wiped off the map," Mr. Roth suggested that the Iranian president has been misunderstood. "There was a real question as to whether he actually said that," Mr. Roth told The New Republic, because the Persian language lacks an idiom for wiping off the map. Then again, Mr. Ahmadinejad's own English-language website translated his words that way, and the main alternative translation—"eliminated from the pages of history"—is no more benign. Nor is Mr. Ahmadinejad an outlier in the regime. Iran's top military officer declared earlier this year that "the Iranian nation is standing for its cause that is the full annihilation of Israel."

Mr. Roth's main claim is legalistic: Iran's rhetoric doesn't qualify as "incitement"—which is illegal under the United Nations Genocide Convention of 1948—but amounts merely to "advocacy," which is legal.

"The theory" to which Human Rights Watch subscribes, he has written in internal emails, "is that in the case of advocacy, however hateful, there is time to dissuade—to rebut speech with speech—whereas in the case of incitement, the action being urged is so imminently connected to the speech in question that there is no time to dissuade. Incitement must be suppressed because it is tantamount to action."

Mr. Roth added in another email: "Many of [Iran's] statements are certainly reprehensible, but they are not incitement to genocide. No one has acted on them."...

Not yet, anyway! So relax!

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ezridersos | December 10, 2012 6:30 AM | Reply

I must disagree with you Mr. Spencer.

Many have acted upon Irans reprehensible statements. But, thank God, none have been successful.

miriam rove | December 10, 2012 9:05 AM | Reply

Roth: that is usually a Jewish last name. PC liberal jews. They are the worst.
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Buraq | December 10, 2012 10:02 AM | Reply

Kenneth 'grapes of' Roth is a clown!

David Dowse | December 10, 2012 1:15 PM | Reply

Article:

"Mr. Roth added in another email: 'Many of [Iran's] statements are certainly reprehensible, but they are not incitement to genocide. No one has acted on them'...."
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Huh? "...incitement to genocide?"

How does that work? One either commits genocide or not. One cannot "incite" genocide. That is why it is such a nasty thing. It requires governments and organizations and money and ideologies and religions to commit it effectively.

Mr. Roth is delusional because he's a typical, lefty equivalence-monger.

dr.music13 | December 11, 2012 1:29 AM | Reply

Soon Google and Yahoo and CNN and whatever
you can think of will be owned by muslims.
It's expected.This is just the start of
sharia law. It's starting.
You can't say this and you can't say that
and then how can you think that and then don't think.
Get ready. islam is coming .....The rout
of the planet will not be documented because the documenters will be long d e a d . What a planet it will be. While we were looking thru our microscopes and
telescopes we did not see islam draw it's sword behind us. Even while islam
drew it's sword at us we complimented it on it's sharp edge. And while islam
de-headed us we were still admiring it's battle-cry in arabic.
islam will take over on the 21st of dec
this year .
i think the mayans saw the future and dropped the chisel in shock.
Too much b l o o d.....even for the mayans.
Did you know .....Among the many many many dirty-islamic tenets the one that calls
for world- notice is the tenet of dirty-islam which says that in any
non-islamic country which is not under muslim-zombie rule, wherever there is a
conflict between muslim-zombie law and the law of the land, the former must
prevail over the latter and a muslim-zombie will be justified in obeying the muslim-zombie
law and defying the law of the land.
The
brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is brotherhood
of Muslim-zombies for Muslim-zombies only .

Putin and the rest of the non-muslim-zombies leaders have to
get together and remove and shunt islam out of our planet. Whatever our
suspicions of each other at this point have to be put aside and a total bond
over the wipe-out of islam has to be concentrated on. It will be expensive but
it has to be done. The oil has to be shared absolutely equally by all ...big
and small non-islamic countries. No
in-fighting and bitching . We have a task at hand. Let us not waver for many
years. And don’t tell the arabs for
EARTH's sake !!

dr.music13 | December 11, 2012 1:33 AM | Reply

Putin and the rest of the non-muslim leaders have to
get together and remove and shunt islam out of our planet. Whatever our
suspicions of each other at this point have to be put aside and a total bond
over the wipe-out of islam has to be concentrated on. It will be expensive but
it has to be done. The oil has to be shared absolutely equally by all ...big
and small non-islamic countries. No
in-fighting and bitching . We have a task at hand. Let us not waver for many
years. And don’t tell the dumb arabs for
EARTH's sake !!

David Dowse replied to comment from dr.music13 | December 11, 2012 11:25 AM | Reply

Ummmm...that's an interesting bit of rant there, but there are some factual inaccuracies, if you don't mind:

"...islam will take over on the 21st of dec
this year .
i think the mayans saw the future and dropped the chisel in shock.
Too much b l o o d.....even for the mayans."
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I hate to tell you, but the end of the world isn't coming in 10 days, dr.music13. And what that has to do with Islam, I haven't the foggiest.
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Anyway, it is interesting to compare 7th Century Mayan life with that of 7th Century Islam. Both were, indeed, warring cultures, but the key difference is that the God of the Mayans (whether Tikal or Palenque or Naranjo or later Chichen Itza) was shared by all warring factions...blood.

The war between Isalm and the West is a war of ideologies - radically different paradigms of societal organization. The internecine warfare of the Maya was most assuredly associated with a sort of religion, but this religion was shared by all the dynasties doing the warring.

Finally, it is instructive to note that while Islam was rising in the East, under the sword (and imposed ignorance), Mayans in Tikal and Palenque were in the thralls of the great rise of their cities and culture during the Classic Period, mastering time, astronomy, geometry, the marking of the equinoxes, hydro-engineering, etc., etc., etc.

In the Dark Ages, while Europe was still laboring along in squalor and the lack of a concept of 0, the Mayans were creating a sublime culture of investigation, which, yes, was in large part based on a morbid (but sacred) belief system. They created the only, complete system of writing among the ancient cultures of MesoAmerica.
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To associate a phony understanding of the end of a 144,000 day Mayan Calendrical cycle with anything Islamic is like comparing apples and asteroids.

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