"There is one treatment for Shiites — it is called jihad"

Oh, you mean helping them with their taxes and dropping off their kids at school?

"Pakistan Reels With Violence Against Shiites," by Declan Walsh for The New York Times, December 3 (thanks to Bill):

QUETTA, Pakistan — Calligraphers linger at the gates of an ancient graveyard in this brooding city in western Pakistan, charged with a macabre and increasingly in-demand task: inscribing the tombstones of the latest victims of the sectarian death squads that openly roam these streets.

For at least a year now, Sunni extremist gunmen have been methodically attacking members of the Hazara community, a Persian-speaking Shiite minority that emigrated here from Afghanistan more than a century ago. The killers strike with chilling abandon, apparently fearless of the law: shop owners are gunned down at their counters, students as they play cricket, pilgrims dragged from buses and executed on the roadside.

The latest victim, a mechanic named Hussain Ali, was killed Wednesday, shot inside his workshop. He joined the list of more than 100 Hazaras who have been killed this year, many in broad daylight. As often as not, the gunmen do not even bother to cover their faces.

The bloodshed is part of a wider surge in sectarian violence across Pakistan in which at least 375 Shiites have died this year — the worst toll since the 1990s, human rights workers say. But as their graveyard fills, Hazaras say the mystery lies not in the identity of their attackers, who are well known, but in a simpler question: why the Pakistani state cannot — or will not — protect them.

After every killing, there are no arrests,” said Muzaffar Ali Changezi, a retired Hazara engineer. “So if the government is not supporting these killers, it must be at least protecting them. That’s the only way to explain how they operate so openly.”...

The murders in Quetta, for instance, involve remarkably little mystery. By wide consensus, the gunmen are based in Mastung, a dusty agricultural village 18 miles to the south that is the bustling local hub of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the country’s most notorious sectarian militant group.

Like so many Pakistani groups that combine guns with zealotry, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi thrives in a wink-and-nod netherworld: it is officially banned, but its leader, Malik Ishaq, was released from jail last year amid showers of rose petals thrown by supporters. Now Mr. Malik lives openly in southern Punjab Province, protected by armed men who loiter outside his door, allowing him to deliver hate-laced statements to visitors. Shiites are “the greatest infidels on earth,” he told a Reuters reporter last month....

In the worst killing this year, militants dragged 26 Hazara men from a bus headed for a religious pilgrimage site in Iran, and executed them in front of their wives. The episode occurred near Mastung....

Now largely confined to home, Mr. Hussain is still not safe. Threats come via Facebook and Twitter, he said, through taunting messages about the “Shia kaffir” — infidels.

The campaign of fear has forced the Hazara to retreat into ethnic enclaves on the edge of the city. Businesses have moved from the city center to Alamgir Road, a Hazara quarter where discreetly armed men stand watch on street corners. Even the ambulance drivers are armed.

One driver cocked his pistol before leading the way to the site of a recent attack. Across the street, the flag of a banned Sunni group fluttered from a shop with graffiti that read: “There is one treatment for Shiites — it is called jihad.”...

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One dot for New York Times, a giant leap of connection for PCMC-kind.

The situation in Pakistan shows the inevitable deterioration of any Muslim country that dabbles in democracy, however thin. The only safety in Muslim countries is to have a strongman government, unaccountable to public opinion, and willing deal out extremely harsh punishment to jihadis.

A democratic government is susceptible to public opinion. The natural presence of large, organized groups of religious fanatics in Muslim countries not only victimized their targets, but puts pressure on the police and military to take the path of least resistance and look the other way.

The US is unfortunately making matters much worse in such countries by insisting on democratic forms of government, which is positively dysfunctional in countries where sharia law is taken seriously by a significant proportion of the population.

“There is one treatment for Shiites — it is called jihad.”...

That's supposed to be inner spiritual struggle jihad, but quite a few Mahoundians keep getting it wrong...

Anyone ever notice how the NY Slimes never cry much for the Christians who are regularly murdered and persecuted by muslims?

I'll bet these same Shitites would be screaming Allah Ackbar along w/their Sunni brothers if they were killing Jews, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists.

"There is one treatment for Shiites — it is called jihad"

...Shiites are “the greatest infidels on earth,” he told a Reuters reporter last month....
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Muslims are as savage with their other-sect coreligionists as they are with non-Muslims—sometimes even more so.

More:

For at least a year now, Sunni extremist gunmen have been methodically attacking members of the Hazara community, a Persian-speaking Shiite minority that emigrated here from Afghanistan more than a century ago...
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And why did they do that? Why, to escape homicidal persecution from the pious Sunni Afghans.

While the Taliban is perhaps best known for blowing up priceless artifacts and stoning women to death, they also carried out a campaign of utter terror against the Shi'ite Hazara in Afghanistan.

More:

...He joined the list of more than 100 Hazaras who have been killed this year, many in broad daylight. As often as not, the gunmen do not even bother to cover their faces.
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And why would they? The Pakistani authorities are not going to stop them, most Sunnis agree with this savagery—and it there are any who might dare disagree, they are keeping it to themselves for their own safety—and the Shi'ites are just victims waiting to happen.

More:

Hazaras say the mystery lies not in the identity of their attackers, who are well known, but in a simpler question: why the Pakistani state cannot — or will not — protect them.

“After every killing, there are no arrests,” said Muzaffar Ali Changezi, a retired Hazara engineer. “So if the government is not supporting these killers, it must be at least protecting them. That’s the only way to explain how they operate so openly.”...
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Well, *duh*. Pakistan is just a notch or two up from a full Shari'ah state—most in the government would be fine seeing the "Land of the Pure" rid of "heretical" Shi'ites. Besides, as long as pious Muslims in Quetta are murdering Shi'ites, they have less time for Jihad against the government for being "insufficiently Islamic".

andxornot wrote:

I'll bet these same Shitites would be screaming Allah Ackbar along w/their Sunni brothers if they were killing Jews, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists.
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So true, andxornot. Even though Shi'ites are the victims here, that *doesn't* mean that they are any less homicidally violent than their Sunni brothers when it comes to murdering Infidels.

Indeed, you see Sunni/Shi'ite alliances in groups like largely Sunni Hizb'allah and Hamas, which receive funding from Shi'ite Iran and support from the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood.

But hey—it's all in the "good cause" of slaughtering Jews—something both Sunnis and Shi'ites can agree on—when they are not murdering each other.

I believe a tight open and shut case can me made for such state protection principles of a group or class such as islams and others, being protected, can well be made and demonstrated in USA, from at least the DOJ and on down to local city courts, and with some enforcement agencies, too, as many Americans are learning.

One of many reported examples, (e.g. new black panthers voter intimidation) is here, a classic: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56881/obama-feds-refused-to-prosecute-multiple-muslim-death-threats-i-got-from-dearbornistan/

Bare in mind, Debbie is an active well experienced attorney, a tigress, and she went after the recent sex harassement case involving the Janet Napolitano DHS agency. She is less likey to make a written statement involving an actionable case at law, since she is an esquire, before the bar.

Debbie most definitely understands the many evils of the islam gang, in spades.

If this gal is prejudiced, she is so for the protection of Americans, Israelis, and Liberty, as a Patriot, IMO, against the gang of the world, and injustice from anyone.

Folks: This is no surprise. No faction of Islam recognizes the other and they been killing each other for centuries. That said all factions of Islam are united and agree by this:
Kill the infidel
Kill the jews. No love lost here.
M

There is one treatment for Islam: complete annihilation.
How? by telling the truth about his filthy founder.

http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html

“After every killing, there are no arrests,” said Muzaffar Ali Changezi, a retired Hazara engineer. “So if the government is not supporting these killers, it must be at least protecting them. That’s the only way to explain how they operate so openly.”..."

I believe it.....

From a little-known but very astute 19th century writer, James Freeman Clarke, clergyman and abolitionist, who had diligently done his homework on Islam, using all the sources then available, when he wrote chapter 11 - 'Mohammed and Islam' for his book 'Ten Great Religions' (which may be read online, courtesy of Project Gutenberg).

Section 5, 'religious doctrines and practices among the Mohammedans'.


"There is no recognition, in the Koran, of human brotherhood. It is a prime duty to hate infidels and make war on them. Mohammed made it a duty for Moslems to betray and kill their own brothers when they were infidels; and he was obeyed in more cases than one."

And:

"The two main divisions are into Sunnites and Shyites.

"The Persians are mostly Shyites, and refuse to receive the Sunnite traditions. They accept Ali, and denounce Omar.

"Terrible wars and cruelties have taken place between these sects.

" Only a few of the Sunnite doctors acknowledge the Shyites to be Moslems.

"They have a saying, "to destroy a Shyite is more acceptable than to kill seventy other infidels of whatever sort."' END QUOTE.

Compare this, from the posted article

- 'Mr. Malik lives openly in southern Punjab Province, protected by armed men who loiter outside his door, allowing him to deliver hate-laced statements to visitors.

'**Shiites are “the greatest infidels on earth,” he told a Reuters reporter last month....** {my emphasis - dda}.


Strikes me that if MAD magazine were brave enough, they could replace their 'Spy Vs Spy' comic strip with a new, updated version entitled "Sunni Vs Shiite".

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