Where's the outrage against Hamas?

Where indeed? This is a good piece about the double standard against Israel, but it is a bit naive regarding the possibility of peaceful coexistence between Israel and the "Palestinian" jihadists. "Where’s the outrage against Hamas?," by Frida Ghitis for the Miami Herald, December 17:

You say you want to help the Israeli-Palestinian peace process? Here’s one small part we can all do, with thanks to Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal for the reminder.

Meshaal, exiled political chief of Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group, has done us a great service by drawing an incandescent line between those who want peace and coexistence, and those who categorically reject negotiations, seeking only to destroy the enemy.

For those who would like to see peace, the choice is very simple. When Meshaal spoke in Gaza a few days ago, calling for Israel’s destruction, the entire world should have spoken out in outrage.

Of course, that did not happen. Reaction to the horrifying speech was rather muted, particularly in Europe, where some may equate criticism of a Palestinian leader with, heaven forbid, support for Israel. But those who want the best for Palestinians should recoil at the words spoken by the Hamas leader during the group’s anniversary celebrations in Gaza earlier this month.

Nothing could be worse for Palestinians than embracing a position that rejects coexistence with Israel. That is a recipe for stalemate, suffering, and continuing strife.

Hamas leaders, emboldened by the victories of their Muslim Brotherhood brethren elsewhere in the Arab world, have engaged in a self-defeating contest to see who is the most extremist among them. The Gaza-based leadership triggered a near-war against Israel a few weeks ago, and their rival Meshaal has now reiterated, “There will be no concession on any inch of the land,” explaining he demands all of Israel, “from the river to the sea,” including Haifa, Tel Aviv, Safed and, of course, Jerusalem. In keeping with efforts to deny any Jewish links to the city, he declared “Israel has no right to be in Jerusalem.”

When the speech came, European leaders were drafting a statement condemning Israel’s announcement that it is moving forward plans for settlement construction in the controversial E1 area. Condemning Israel comes easily in the EU. But when someone suggested the condemnation should also note that a Palestinian leader said Israel should be destroyed — to the cheers of tens of thousands of ebullient supporters, against a backdrop of a mock missile of Iranian design — the Europeans hesitated.

According to Israel Radio, four European countries — Denmark, Finland, Portugal and Ireland — wanted only to condemn Israel without mentioning the words of Hamas, despite the group’s essentially genocidal charter. More diplomatic minds prevailed and a very brief mention of the awful speech was included in the final EU document.

In the U.S., the writer Michael Tomasky chastised his friends. “The left in the developed world,” he wrote, “has let its hatred of imperialism and occupation prevent it from seeing and denouncing” problems within movements it has supported.

Meshaal’s words did not make a lot of waves. The world doesn’t really blink when someone calls for Israel’s destruction. That’s a pity, because that silence magnifies Israelis’ fears that they cannot trust international opinion, and it makes them more skeptical of diplomacy....

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Sorry to be off topic, but what's happened to the next and previous buttons ?

When the speech came, European leaders were drafting a statement condemning Israel’s announcement that it is moving forward plans for settlement construction in the controversial E1 area. Condemning Israel comes easily in the EU. But when someone suggested the condemnation should also note that a Palestinian leader said Israel should be destroyed — to the cheers of tens of thousands of ebullient supporters, against a backdrop of a mock missile of Iranian design — the Europeans hesitated.
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Shameful—but, alas, hardly surprising at this point.

This author appears to be a very decent fellow, but even he seems to believe that most "Palestinians" just want to build a decent society—but when they say they want to destroy Israel, they really mean it.

Why does the west play the matchmaker for Filitin and Israel? If Israel wants a bride, the west should at least not pick one so ugly for the matching.

ugh!

Check out this about Israel:

"Video where Jewish-American Alan Dershowitz,pro-Israel,answers Difficult Questions about Israel"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/12/17/video-where-jewish-american-alan-dershowitzpro-israelanswers-difficult-questions-about-israel/

AND ALSO

"Navas de Tolosa,in 1212,the Epic Battle that Saved Spain from becoming another 100% Muslim Country like Morocco"

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/10/03/navas-de-tolosain-1212the-epic-battle-that-saved-spain-from-becoming-another-100-muslim-country-like-morocco/

Jan wrote:

Sorry to be off topic, but what's happened to the next and previous buttons ?
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Hi, Jan. I believe these buttons disappeared in one of the previous JW "makeovers". I haven't seen them for many months.

And we're back to having to "submit" our comments in the latest "makeover"—even though we were, briefly, able to hit "publish" to post our comments.

More than that, I now have to sign in several times a day—sometimes for every new comment, where previously I only have to sign in once or twice a week.

I know—grousing does not become me. I tell myself that I'm just glad to be able to comment here at all.

But from other's comments and the sadly diminished length of the threads on most stories here in the past couple of months, I believe these glitches have affected a lot of people.

That being said, I hope you are having a wonderful holiday season, Jan. Always good to see your comments.

Hamas is fated to lose in its aganda to destroy the State of Israel because eventhough its menbers may not know it they are striving against the Will of God. This is because God has declared in His Word,the Bible, that this land in that area in the Middle East belongs to the Jewish people. An example of this is Genesis 28:13-15. 35:10-12. Deuteronomy 32;48,49. Psalm 105:7-11. 135:4. Not only does this land belong to the Jewish people by Divine Right but is also belongs to the Jewish people by Historic rights. For example , First Kings 4:20,21,24,25. 8:55,56. So Hamas is in error ,wrong and in Darkness, Isaiah 8;20. Second Timothy 3;16. Nevertheless, there is one way for the menbers of Hamas to convince God to change His Mind and turn His Back on the Jews and thus have the State of Israel be no more.
That way is for them to change the laws of astrohpsics including that of the sun ,the moon and the stars. For God has said in Jeremiah 31:35,36. "Thus saith the Lord, which givth the sun for a light by day and the ordinances of moon and the stars for a light by night...The Lord of Host is His name. If those those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me forever." [KJV]

Thanks, graven. I've been away in Scotland looking after my mother for a month so haven't seen JW ( my mum doesn't have a computer) since the middle of November.

You said:

''Hi, Jan. I believe these buttons disappeared in one of the previous JW "makeovers". I haven't seen them for many months.''

I don't remember exactly the last time I commented, but I think it was sometime in November, and I'm sure the home/previous/next buttons were there then ?

Ah well, perhaps I'm just disorientated !


You also said:

''But from other's comments and the sadly diminished length of the threads on most stories here in the past couple of months, I believe these glitches have affected a lot of people.''

Yes, I noticed the dearth of comments myself; there's a lot to be said for 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'' !

However, as you say, at least we **can** comment.

Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year, gravenimage.

Yes, I've noticed this problem too.

It is *very* annoying...

And slows one down.

However, I am just gritting my teeth and hoping that perhaps Mr Spencer will be able to get some tech help presently.

Now, as to the topic of the posted article.

There *was* at least one Aussie politician, a humble back-bencher, one Tony Smith, representing the seat of Casey, who gave a pretty good speech in Parliament recently, on the subject of the Jew-hating Hamasniks.

He even quoted the Horrible Hadith - the genocidal one that talks about Jews hiding behind rocks and stones while Muslims come to kill them - and told his assembled fellow MPs, in our Federal Parliament, that this text was quoted in the Hamas Charter.

Here's Hansard.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/15qeb6OKzltae83RpSIx1EvG5RC3STrSFLifOZnaUDSgAg7GI_vHoIM7FEZMN/edit?pli=1

and here's a cross-posting of that speech, with commentary:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/45176
Wednesday, 5 December 2012


Canberra, Australia: Tony Smith, MP, Tells the House a Few Home Truths About Hamas


He only had a short time to speak, and got cut off before he could conclude, but he had said pretty well most of what needed to be said, anyway.

Tony Smith for Australian Prime Minister!

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