"Bring your Fake full of lies Robert Spencer Quran"

Woops, bad link. Should be:

http://www.quranbrowser.com/cgi/bin/get.cgi?version=transliterated&layout=auto&searchstring=005:017

Can I have some of those leaflets?! In the city here on Saturdays a group of very smooth, oily Muslims are handing out leaflets full of lies. Well, not strictly "full" of lies. The friend who gave them to me, a Krishna devotee, said you will find (according to Praphupada) there will be 70% truth and 30% lies in the work of liars. After reading the leaflets, with anger mounting, I could see what he meant.

My Krishna friend, by the way, used to brush my concerns about Islam away and preach to me about Kaliyuga, the material world, and so on. Then he started to admit he would, actually physically defend the ISKON building...and he has come a long way since then. We had quite a good talk yesterday about how ALL religions (except Islam, of course) must rediscover their "masculine" side to deal with this threat. Does God, or Brahma, or Krishna, or any higher being really want to see us acting like pansies as we are encouraged to do by our leaders, both political and spiritual, at present?

At the end of the 24 hours the groundhog comes up for a look around. If he sees a muslim he zings back down that hole like a shot. And it's another 6 weeks of winter...

PJG

If you would like to be put in touch with Davegreybeard - a very nice American gentleman, Vietnam veteran, who has been posting here at jihadwatch for *years* - indeed, I think he was here before you found your way here - I can do so, since Dave and I are in email communication.

So: would you like to be sent Dave's email contact?

Dave

have you been put in touch with PJG?

If you haven't, I can be of assistance.

PJG

are they handing out the 'Discover Islam' (sic: Cover Up Islam, is what I mentally call them) leaflets/ booklets?

If so, until Dave can send you his material, you may find the following to be of use:

The author, one 'kamala', was a regular poster at jihadwatch. S/he went through a selection of the 'Discover Islam' pretty posters and booklets and took them to pieces, one by one.

http://revuse.wetpaint.com/page/Discover%20Islam?t=anon

Kamala also did a masterly dissection of a book by a lying American muslimah, which was called 'The Muslim Next Door ' ( sort of like Walid Aly's 'People like Us' da'wa/ victimhood effort).

You might find that one helpful, as well.

http://revuse.wetpaint.com/page/Ten+Questions+for+the+Muslim+Next+Door?t=anon

If the Mohammedan da'wa artists and PR team are peddling the same sorts of claims that the Mohammedan female in the 'Muslim Next Door' book was peddling, you may find it entertaining to ask them the same ten little questions that Kamala came up with.

"Bring your Fake full of lies Robert Spencer Quran"
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Umm...exactly what Qur'anic research does "Muhammad Jack"—love that moniker—want Robert Spencer to perform?

No worries—the erudite Mr. Spencer just gave him a whole boatload of Qur'anic research to wade through. Likely we'll never hear from him again, despite his over-the-top bellicosity.

Davegreybeard wrote:

This is the same general idea of a leaflet that I am working on.
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Dave, I may be able to work on the graphics for your leaflets, if that would be helpful. I've worked in this field for over thirty years. We can talk about it when we meet. Looking forward to it.

I have two leaflets “ready to go” at present.

One is titled “Muhammad” and is his biography, which chronicles many of the murders, assassinations, rapes, etc. that he committed during his life as documented in the “Sirat Rasul Allah”, the Hadith of Bukhari and Muslim and the Quran. The leaflet explains that Muslims believe that Muhammad is uswa hasana “The Model of Conduct “ and al insan al kamil “The Perfect Man”. This leaflet has been revised and “polished” over several years and I believe it is pretty effective.

The second leaflet is titled “3 Questions for Infidels” and asks “why do they hate us?”. It consists mostly of direct quotes from the Quran that command Muslims to make war on their neighbors, kill the Infidels wherever you find them, if your wife is disobedient, beat her, etc.

Both leaflets are designed to be passed out to individuals or at events to “get the truth out” about Islam.

I would caution anyone who has the courage to pass these leaflets out to “watch your six”. It has been said that “Jihad works both ways”. So make no mistake when you distribute these, you are launching a weapon aimed at the evil heart of Islam, a weapon it cannot withstand – the Truth.

ahaha! ..very funny, George :)

And Robert doesn't need 24 hours to prepare! He stands ready to meet the challenge at a moments notice put forth by this Jaaack character. Yea Robert would make mincemeat out of this whiny weasel--or groundhog (whatever).

My thoughts on Jihad

01/18/13

There's a bruhaha over that "myjihad' thing. Ahmed Rehab from CAIR is sueing Pamella Geller for basically telling the truth. They sure as hell can't confront her on the issues; they'd end up looking like idiots. There is an all out campaign against anybody who dares tell the truth about Islam. Be it the “Islamophobia” sham. Or the attempts to ban free speech outright, (See UN Res 16/18, the OIC, the Cairo Declaration.), They always take the cowards way out. (See MSA students disrupting lectures on Islam. Or Muslims attacking and actually stoning Christians who dared to merely talk about Christianity at a Muslim Festival.)

Islamists are scared shitless of any kind of close scrutiny when it comes to their baseless claims of Islam being a religion of peace and especially Islamists long-term goals here in the United States. (See Frank Gaffney's 10 Course Lecture on the Muslim Brotherhood.)

Once upon a time, after reading The Haj by Leon Uris and The Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright I decided to try to find out what the “Isamic” thing was all about. So I did some research and ordered some books.

Here are a few of the books:

Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law
Sahih al-Bukhari (With Sheikh Humaid's article on Jihad)
The Koran: Pickthall
The Quran: Yusuf Ali: Translated by Prof. Syed Vickar Ahmed
Holy Qur'an with Commentary: Maulana Muhammad Ali
The Second Message of Islam by Mahmoud Mohamed Taha

One of the first things I discovered was that even Taha, whom I call the Mahatma Ghandi of Islam, villifies the Jews. And who justified early jihad and “the use of the sword” by saying that “we may describe it as a surgeon's lancet and not a butcher's knife.” I'm sure there are about 200 million dead people that would disagree with him.

Then in, (the “moderate?”) Maulana Muhammad Ali's “Holy Qur'an and Commentary” I discovered some bald faced lies, infering that Christians and other religions happily “accepted the message of Truth in vast numbers” and “Idolatry was wiped out from the face of the country, while many of the Jews and Christians accepted the Religion of Truth” and “enlightened” the whole world from the East to the West.” (I did'nt see the words “massacre” or “jihad” referenced in the footnotes where I found these quotes. And where ever jihad is mentioned it's always with a footnote and some happy horseshit about “striving”. It also mentions something, in another footnote, about Islam spreading to every corner of the earth. Which I personally don't find real comforting.

What I found most disturbing though, and is the reason I'm commenting, is the Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari I ordered and received in the mail.
I usually use the term “my hair stood on end” when describing my experience as I read Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid's article on jihad which features prominantly in the book.

Now let's pause here a minute.

I ordered this book from Noorart Inc. A company that sells books online. The book is published by Abdul Malik Mujahid of Sound Vision a multi media Islamist propaganda enterprise. Mujahid is the former president of the Islamic Circle of North Amnerica, an organization which has been directly linked to Al Qaeda. He's also the publisher of the infamous book, “Commanders of the Muslim Army”. A book promoting jihad.

You can usually see Mujahid's “plug” for Humaid's jihad article whenever you see it online. I won't waste a lot of time on Mujahid (\muhahid=one who wages jihad). Here's a link at Creeping Sharia telling you a little bit about him:

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/chicago-imam-qital-killing-is-an-essential-element-of-islam/

Now; in this: the Sahih Al-Bukhari; “the most authentic and true among the books of the Prophet”. A “holy book” placed Right Next to the “holy Qur'an” in every Imam's or “true believer's library...

...of all the articles. Of all the “Introductions” to those wanting to learn about “the religion of peace”. This is the “Ambassador” they pick.

Let's repeat how Humaid start's his article introducing “the religion of peace” to the masses:

“In the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
THE CALL TO JIHAD (FIGHTING FOR ALLAH'S CAUSE) IN THE QUR'AN”

And continues:

Praise be to Allah swt Who has ordained Al-Jihad (the holy fighting in Allah's Cause):
1.1. With the heart (intentions or feelings),
2.2. With the hand (weapons, etc.),
3.3. With the tongue (speeches, etc., in the Cause of Allah)

Let's take this Step by Step

“Praise be to Allah swt Who has ordained Al-Jihad”

“(THE HOLY FIGHTING in Allah's Cause)”

“FIGHTING” for Allah's cause. NOT tossing rose petals into the air. NOT sitting on a mountain top contemplating your belly button.

“holy fighting”
and below it “1”, “2” and “3” it explains what you are to fight jihad WITH! It doesn't say jihad has anything to do with “the heart”, or “the hand”, or “the tongue”. It says that you USE These Things in the furtherance of jihad. Just like Humaid says later that you use “planes, tanks and missiles” in the furtherance of jihad.

You fight/jihad; USING your heart, your hands and your tongue. NOT the other way around. The intentions and feelings aren't jihad. They are a SUPPLEMENT to jihad/holy fighting. You can “inner struggle” or “good deeds” or STRIVE all you want. But right up top, practically as a Masthead; WTF am I talking about? It IS the frigging masthead:

“THE CALL TO JIHAD... IS ...(FIGHTING FOR ALLAH'S CAUSE)

“FIGHTING”

This whole article is about hate. Not love. War. Not peace. Not the spirit of multiculteralism or multi-ethnic harmony. Or anything even close to jihad being an “inner-struggle or self examination. Or ANY kind of soul searching or “striving”. It's about waging war/jihad on the un-believers and “killing” them. And the next three articles after it? There all about the “unpardonable sin” of being Christian; or a “shirker” a “polytheist”.

Along with the “hair-raising” part, when I read this article shortly after getting it, I honest to God thought they had made a mistake and sent me a book they usually reserve for their more radical clientel. I was watching the door and listening for the phone for weeks wondering when they were going to call and ask for their book back.

After I got my wits together I saw what I had im my hands even if other people did not. If there were EVER an “Exhibit A” to refute Muslims claims that Islam is a “religion of peace” this article is that Exhibit A.

I still pause in wonder thinking, “This is THEIR holy book. This is a book distributed to literally hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people. That is a book they consider second in importance only to the “Holy Qur'an”.

This would be like ordering an NLT Study Bible and finding exerpts from Hitler's Mein Kamph as the Introduction. Only this article on jihad by ex chief justice of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid, is representive of the whole Islamic religion and ideology as illistrated in the book, the Sahih Al-Bukhari.

I'll give you just one quote in order to give you the flavor of this “holy book”:

Bukhari (52:260) Page-613; "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'”
Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Now at this point you're probably saying to yourself, “This is just one book. I'm sure this isn't 'the law of the land' where Muslims are concerned”.

Here's a link from The Religion of Peace.Com that describes this subject in length:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.htm

Which brings me to “Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”.

I'll let the website “Mapping Sharia” do the talking for me. Here some exerpts from:

http://mappingsharia.com/?page_id=79

“Even given its age, the Umdat al-Salik, (Reliance of the Traveller), is by no means an irrelevant or outdated document. Certificates of authenticity attest to the translation from the governments of Egypt, Syria, and Saudi Arabia– and the text is the first Islamic legal work in a European language to receive certification from the most important seat of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence, Cairo’s al-Azhar University.”

“We certify that this translation corresponds to the Arabic original and conforms to the practice and faith of the orthodox Sunni community (Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’a). — Al-Azhar, the Muslim world’s most prestigious institution of higher Islamic learning (Cairo; February, 1991)

In addition to that here are some people who put their personal endorsements at the beginning of the book:

Dr. Taha Jabir al-’Alwani, International Institute of Islamic Thought (Herndon, VA; December 1990)

'Abd al-Wakil Durubi [stamped] Imam of the Mosque of Darwish Pasha
Damascus, Syria [April, 1988]

Nuh 'Ali Salman [signed] Mufti of the Jordanian Armed Forces
Dr. Taha Jabir al-'Alwani [signed] President of the International Institute of Islamic Thought Member of Islamic Fiqh Academy at Jedda President of the Fiqh Council of North America

General Director of Research, Writing, and Translation Fath Allah Ya Sin Jazar [signed](I think that's what this says) al-Azhar Islamic Research Academy General Department for Research, Writing, and Translation

One should really read the book itself and read the actual endorsements.

Now we come to what jihad means:

The Reliance of the Traveller P-599

Chapter O-9.0: Jihad
(O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said as he was returning from jihad.
"We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.''

The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b-7) is such Koranic verses as:

1- "Fighting is prescribed for you'' (Koran 2:216);
2- "Slay them wherever you find them'' (Koran 4:89);
3- "Fight the idolators utterly'' (Koran 9:36);

and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari (my italics) and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

"I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah'';

and the hadith reported by Muslim, "To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the whole world and everything in it.''Details concerning jihad are found in the accounts of the military expeditions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), including his own martial forays and those on which he dispatched others. The former consist of the ones he personally attended, some twenty-seven (others say twenty-nine) of them. He fought in eight of them, and killed only one person with his noble hand, Ubayy ibn Khalaf, at the battle of Uhud. On the latter expeditions he sent others to fight, himself remaining at Medina, and these were forty-seven in number.)

"We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.''

The “greater jihad” is mentioned this one time and is never mentioned again.

As a matter of fact most Islamic Scholars would probably tell you that this “greater” jihad is one of those “unreliable” hadiths.

Here's another little gem from the Traveller:

“o8.0 APOSTACY FROM ISLAM.... ….When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.”

The Traveller is literally filled with quotes like that and worse.

Back to my Sahih Al-Bukhari and Humaid's article; This book discusses “martyrdom”... ...A LOT! I've seen these ridiculous articles saying that “mujahidin” are “seekers of truth”. Read Humaid's jihad article
“The foundation of the military spirit as they say: obedience and military discipline. Allah has gathered these foundations in the Verses of his Book (The Qur'an).”

And is summed up in the words of Muhammed himself:

“I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then come back to life and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred. Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol 4 Hadith No. 54

And when jihad is discussed it's not in the horses, chariots and spears in ancient history kind of Islam. This is 20th Century Planes, Trains and Automobiles kind of jihad:

The Muslims were ordered to take all precautions against the enemies of Allah and to get ready against them with all they can of power-because that is the first step for Jihad (fighting) and the supreme way for the defence. To get ready (for Jihad includes various kinds of preparations and weapons [ missiles, artillery, aeroplanes (air force), naval ships (navy and the training of the soldiers in these weapons] are included under (the meaning) of the word "force (i.e land, navy and air-force)."

I've summed all this up in a kind of challenge I've sent to dozens of Muslims, incliuding that quack, Dr El-Guidy. Except for a suggestion from Guidy that I read his books I've never gotten a response. (And in the spirit of fair play, even though I didn't read his books I downloaded and read several of his lengthy articles. Or rather rantings. Enough about that.)

Here's the challenge:

If Islam is the religion of peace, where in Abdullah bin Humaid's article on jihad can I find the equivalent of “Love Thy Neighbor”? “and good will toward men”? And explain its prominence, (and significance), in a book that's considered second only to the Koran; My Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari. Also address “jihad” as it's defined in Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. Also compare Humaid's “jihad” and Emmet Fox' Sermon on the Mount and tell me which one best represents a spirit of Love and compassion.

These leaflets are called "learn the basics", and their website is www.iisna.com
The one about Jesus ends with these sweet words:

"God tells the Muslims to come to common terms and understanding between them and the People of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians). He says..." (and they quote Koran 3:64, which basically commands Christians and Jews to convert to Islam.)

*"Common terms and understandings"*...

The rest of it is just as sickening. I hardly need to tell you, do I, the kind of weasily language they use. Yet it is mixed with unmasked outrage against the Christian view of Jesus, which at one point they bluntly call "blasphemy". And they say that Jesus is "worshipped due to having no father". The nerve of these people!!

Thanks, yes to davegreybeard's email, and thanks for the kamala link, which I will now attend to.

What you wrote was most interesting.
I have just one comment: when you say "Love and compassion", I don't think this concept is appropriate in Islam. Love is meant to be directed to Allah and the "Prophet" as a kind of slavish worship rather than what we see as love, while compassion is for Muslims only, and even then only if they toe the line; if not, they can be killed as "hypocrites" or "heretics".

Indeed Islam is shocking.

Great work on the studies, Larry.

Now put your mind to the task of teaching our fellow Infidels what you know about Islam.

Larry A. Singleton wrote:

Letter Re Murtaza Hussain Al-Jazeera Article 1-3-13

“Anti-Muslim violence spiralling out of control in America”...
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Great post debunking this ugly canard, Larry.

I do. Usually by submitting some of the books I've read:

These have pretty much been my Introduction and "Education" to Islam.

The Haj by Leon Uris
The Source by James Michener
Muslim Mafia by Gaubatz and Sperry
Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel
“Slavery, Terrorism and Islam” and “Holocaust in Rwanda” by Peter Hammond
The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America by David Horowitz
Ivory Towers On Sand: The Failure of Middle Eastern Studies in America by Martin Kramer
The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism by Andrew G. Bostom
The Legacy of Jihad by Andrew G. Bostom MD
A Concise History of the Crusades by Thomas F. Madden
The Book of Jewish Knowledge by Nathan Ausubel
Justice Not Vengeance by Simon Wiesenthal
The New Moody Atlas of the Bible by Barry J. Beitzel
The Al Qaeda Reader by Raymond Ibrahim
Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law
Sahih al-Bukhari (With Sheikh Humaid's article on Jihad and plug by Imam Abdul Malik Mujahid)
The Koran: Pickthall
The Quran: Yusuf Ali: Translated by Prof. Syed Vickar Ahmed
Holy Qur'an with Commentary: Maulana Muhammad Ali
The Second Message of Islam by Mahmoud Mohamed Taha
Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington by Paul Sperry
American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us by Steven Emerson
Stop the Ilamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance by Pamela Geller
Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores by Michelle (the hottest woman on the planet) Malkin
Vince Flynn's “Term Limits” as a solution to our political problems.

Good point. I think I'll ponder on that and work on it. Thanks.

I don’t see any books by Robert Spencer or Ibn Warraq, Larry. You should put them on your “to read list”

Also, you can get the complete set of Hadith by Sahih Al-Bukhari (9 volumes) and Sahih Muslim (7 volumes) from Dar-us-Salam Publications (Dar-us-Salam.com). I highly recommend these as works to leisurely browse through with a glass or two of good red wine – gives you a real flavor of that ole time religion.