Egypt: Muslim preacher says Christian women should wear veils unless "they want to get raped on the streets"

This reflects the core Islamic assumption that male self-control is the female's responsibility. She has to cover up, and if she doesn't and gets attacked, that's her own fault. "FEATURE-Preacher alarms many in Egypt with calls for Islamist vice police," by Yasmine Saleh and Shaimaa Fayed for Reuters, January 9 (thanks to Block Ness):

Jan 9 (Reuters) - Many Egyptian viewers were horrified when preacher Hisham el-Ashry recently popped up on primetime television to say women must cover up for their own protection and advocated the introduction of religious police.

That an obscure preacher could get publicity for such views was seen as another example of the confused political scene in Egypt since the revolt that toppled Hosni Mubarak gave birth to a cacophony of feuding voices.

"I was once asked: If I came to power, would I let Christian women remain unveiled? And I said: If they want to get raped on the streets, then they can," Ashry told Nahar TV last week.

Introducing a Saudi-style anti-vice police force to enforce Islamic law was "not a bad thing", he said, and added: "In order for Egypt to become fully Islamic, alcohol must be banned and all women must be covered."

Few take Ashry, who admits he flew to the United States dreaming of a Western lifestyle and romance but instead found truth in preaching, seriously. But his views have stirred emotions.

With the economic downturn and rising food prices putting pressure on the government, moderate Muslims, Christians and others worry their new-found political freedom is at risk of being exploited by hardline Islamists bent on imposing their values on a society that has been traditionally moderate....

Egypt's Grand Mufti, the country's most senior Islamic legal official, has dismissed the self-styled preacher's views.

"This sort of idiotic thinking is one that seeks to further destabilise what is already a tense situation," Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa said in a statement to Reuters.

"Egypt's religious scholars have long guided the people to act in ways that conform to their religious commitments, but have never thought this required any type of invasive policing."

The Muslim Brotherhood of President Mohamed Mursi, who was brought to power in an election last year, has also distanced itself, if somewhat cryptically.

"The case of promotion of virtue and prevention of vice is within the jurisdiction of the authorities and not individuals or groups," said Brotherhood spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan. "It is not anyone's right to intervene."

Mursi has pledged not to impose Islamic codes of behaviour and to protect adherents of all religions equally. But he has also enacted a new constitution that has more Islamic references than its predecessor and that critics say fails to protect freedoms and the rights of Christians and other minorities.

Activists say although Mursi's camp is not keen on religious austerity, stronger condemnation is required at this sensitive time.

"As long as such actions are not seriously condemned by the officials in public speeches, it leaves room for radicals to freely act and impose things on people," said human rights activist Gamal Eid....

"Islamist officials need to take a clearer stand on their views about rights and freedoms and act strictly if those rights and freedoms were threatened."...

More re Ashry:

"He advocates what I believe is right," said Ahmed Mahmoud, 18, in Cairo. "It is about time to enforce God's law in order to be rescued from all the corruption we live in."

Ashry is just one conservative influence among many. In the six months since Mursi came to power, preachers and vigilante groups have been flexing their muscles on the streets.

In July, a young man holding hands with his fiancé was stabbed to death in Suez, and in October, a face-veiled teacher cut the hair of two 12-year-old girls who were not wearing scarves. Just last month, an Islamist group in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula threatened to launch a campaign against cigarette smoking and drug use in the lawless desert region.

Radical Salafi figures called for Muslims not to greet Christians at Christmas, celebrated by Egypt's Copts on Jan. 7. Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt's 84 million population, which is majority Sunni-Muslim....

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"Radical Salafi figures called for Muslims not to greet Christians at Christmas, celebrated by Egypt's Copts on Jan. 7."

Oh brother, why not make it 365 days a year, if it's THAT important to them.

I seriously doubt that the Christians living there even care, since being shunned by muslims does not stop the flow of Joy from one another or from the LORD Himself!

Silly muslims, makes me laugh over their false sense of importance on others or in general.

Muhammad, if he ever existed, was himself a deranged and deviant sex freak possessing zero self-control. And Muslims are told in the "perfect Qur'an" that Muhammad has left them "a beautiful pattern of conduct" to follow.

Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:

Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

Qur'an, 033.021
Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.

'' ... She has to cover up, and if she doesn't and gets attacked, that's her own fault...''

And if she **does** cover up, and gets attacked, that's her own fault, too, right ?

Her eyes must have been deliberately enticing some poor man, and he just couldn't help himself. But it's all *her* fault.

In fact, she really shouldn't be outside at all.

Looking forward to more "Slut Walk" protests over this .... but not holding my breath!

Mahoundians are such ravenous sexual beasts, even the sight of a hairless dog can set off a deluge of out of control lust...Women should be aware of that and cover up at all times to prevent the overflowing passions of a passing male from wrecking her day...If she chooses not to cover up, and she is lusted after, she has likened herself to a hairless dog and deserves what she gets...Mutah doesn't count...

If the woman is raped she'll probably be arrested....

"...moderate Muslims, Christians and others worry their new-found political freedom is at risk of being exploited by hardline Islamists bent on imposing their values on a society that has been traditionally moderate...."

Yes, so "traditionally moderate" that in the past some Copts have even moved to the Sudan to get away from such "moderation".

"New-found political freedom"? Well, they only had that for a few minutes, before they threw it away. And now they are merely "worried", with Morsi at the helm? Even though his "camp" [the Muslim Brotherhood, no less] is "not keen on religious austerity"?

What a peculiar piece of writing!

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