Fort Hood jihad mass murderer wants to be spared death penalty because earlier judge wanted him to shave his beard

HasanBeard.jpgThis beard is waging a courtroom jihad


But his beard was not forcibly shaved. The judge who ordered this was removed for his horrifying "Islamophobia." The never-ending chutzpah of this jihad mass murderer and his attorneys is a disgrace, and that it is entertained at all is a sign of how compromised our military has become.

"Fort Hood shooting suspect wants death penalty out," by Angela K. Brown for the Associated Press, January 25 (thanks to Kenneth):

FORT WORTH, Texas — The new judge in the Fort Hood shooting rampage case faces a controversial decision next week: whether to spare Maj. Nidal Hasan a possible death sentence and let him plead guilty in the worst mass shooting on a U.S. military installation.

Defense attorneys said Hasan wants to plead guilty to 13 counts of premeditated murder, but Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea in a death penalty case. If the death sentence is removed, Hasan's punishment would be life without parole — which he already faces if convicted of the 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the 2009 attack on the Texas Army post.

The date for his long-delayed trial has not been set, but pretrial hearings are scheduled Wednesday through Friday so the new military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, can reconsider several defense requests previously rejected by the former judge. That judge was removed after the military's highest court said he appeared to show bias, a ruling that ended appeals that had delayed the case more than three months.

Defense attorneys argue that Hasan should be spared a possible death sentence because his rights have been violated — including by the former judge who ordered that Hasan's beard be forcibly shaved. Hasan first showed up in court in June with a beard, later saying it was required by his Muslim faith, but facial hair violates Army rules.

He also murdered thirteen people because of his Muslim faith. That should be taken into account as well.

Defense attorneys also claim Fort Hood's commanding general was not impartial when he decided in July 2011 that Hasan would face the death penalty, and had been influenced by high-ranking government officials. Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, has not yet entered a plea.

Osborn has full authority to decide on the death penalty issue because she is ruling on legal matters raised by the defense, said Jeff Addicott, director of the Center for Terrorism Law at St. Mary's University School of Law in San Antonio.

"I think the case will go forward as a death penalty case, because it's dragged on for years, and if ever there was a case fitting of the death penalty, this is it," said Addicott, who is not involved in the Hasan case, adding that he believed Hasan is "a radical extremist ... and he has no remorse."

He said defense attorneys are simply trying to quickly end the case by having their client plead guilty and avoid a death sentence.

Witnesses have said that a gunman wearing an Army combat uniform opened fire after shouting "Allahu Akbar!" — or "God is great!" in Arabic — inside a crowded medical building on Nov. 5, 2009, where deploying and returning soldiers received vaccines and other tests. Hasan was also about to deploy to Afghanistan.

A Senate report released in 2011 said the FBI missed warning signs about Hasan, alleging he had become an Islamic extremist and a "ticking time bomb" before the rampage at Fort Hood, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth. Officials also said Hasan exchanged emails with Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical U.S.-born Islamic cleric killed in Yemen in 2011 by a drone strike.

Osborn was appointed to oversee the Hasan case in December after the military's highest appeals court ousted the former judge, Col. Gregory Gross, and tossed out his order to have Hasan's beard forcibly shaved before his court-martial....

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wellington and I discussed this yesterday. He should not get the death penalty. death penalty is the easy way out. He should rot in jail for the rest his life. 23 hours a day in a shithole reciting the AL-KORAN!!!!
m

I'm old school, so I support capital punishment, and I would love to see this man hung like saddam hussein; but of course that is too much to hope for in this case.

But if he were put to death for murdering American servicemen, he would have killed and been killed in the cause of Allah, as per Qur'an 9:111, and accordingly would get a lifetime VIP pass to the celestial Playboy Club. Does he not know his Qur'an? Or worse, does he not believe that's what awaits him upon his quietus?

O ye of little faith!

SPARED THE DEATH PENALTY BECAUSE A PREVIOUS JUDGE WANTED TO SHAVE HIS BEARD?

WTF?

I've really heard it all now.
Hand him over to me and I will dish out of justice. No fee. FREE OF CHARGE.
It will save the American tax-payer thousands.
In fact, I bet I'm not the only reader of Jihad Watch blog who gladly offer the same!

Death is too easy.

A lifetime of humiliation, sitting in his wheelchair, in his Depends, unable to walk on his own, unable to do much of anything on his own is a far tougher penalty.

The survivors of his victims deserve to know that he will continue to suffer, physically and mentally, until he ultimately dies in prison years from now.

Definitely, Hasan has no right under army law to cease shaving. Add that insubordination to his rap sheet. The JAG is obviously saying, 'Big deal, compared with the 13 murders.'

Hasan is grandstanding and indeed, as someone already wrote, he shows no remorse for his jihad. He speaks for the silent majority of Muslims worldwide who applaud him.

When are Americans going to get it? Islam is not your friend.

well said. Please see my post above.
M

Agreed 100%.

Do we want justice or revenge? If it's revenge, killing him is good enough...But if you want justice, you have to keep Hasan alive...That's because, no one has ever got justice out of a dead man, and no one has ever successively punished a corpse...Death stops justice in it's tracks...For some murderers, the DP is too good for them, they need to be kept alive so that years of justice can be applied to them...Hasan fits the model...

If Obama has it his way, this terrorist will be out in less than twenty years - period.

At that time, Obama will still be President, and
offer Hasan a job as an adviser...

"If Obama has it his way, this terrorist will be out in less than twenty years - period."

Precisely why the death penalty is more just ...

Fort Hood jihad mass murderer wants to be spared death penalty because earlier judge wanted him to shave his beard
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Well, of course—*hasn't this poor man suffered enough?* sarc/off

More:

But his beard was not forcibly shaved. The judge who ordered this was removed for his horrifying "Islamophobia."
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Oh, the humanity! Of course, Hasan figures that a military foolish enough to remove a judge for attempting to enforce non-sectarian norms might just be foolish enough to go for this, as well... You can't fault a good Muslim for trying!

More:

The date for his long-delayed trial has not been set, but pretrial hearings are scheduled Wednesday through Friday so the new military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, can reconsider several defense requests previously rejected by the former judge.
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Yes—because dhimmi Judge Gross was such an old meanie! What has the US military become?

More:

Defense attorneys also claim Fort Hood's commanding general was not impartial when he decided in July 2011 that Hasan would face the death penalty, and had been influenced by high-ranking government officials.
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Insanity. If the worst mass shooting in army history is not enough to incur the death penalty, what is?

I actually have fairly complicated views of the death penalty myself.

But for those who say that Hasan shouldn't face the death penalty because life in prison is a greater punishment, all I can say is that clearly he himself doesn't believe that, or else he and his lawyers wouldn't be fighting the sentence.

Either Hasan believe that America will be even more dhimmi in the future, and he will be released, or else he is not properly looking forward to those 72 virgins in the vile Islamic "paradise"...

Mr, my argument yesterday respecting the sparing of the death penalty for yet another dysfunctional, despicable, deadly Muslim (re the Bombay massacre) was because of possible vital testimony by that low-life which helped convict others. Here there are no similar mitigating circumstance for yet another murderous Muslim cretan to be spared capital punishment. I say execute the bastard.

I'm not interested first and foremost in what would be the most appropriately retributive punishment for one more lethal Muslim psychopath. True, such a matter is worth academic discussion, preferably over several beers, but, I would argue, more important is just simply terminating the life of a useless, heinous human being who has helped prosecutors in no way whatsoever. Pronto like.

Hope you are enjoying fine cigars and good Scotch regularly, mr. Take good care.

that is why he should be jailed for life. it is going to be worth it to wait say 45 years to see the virgins. all 72 of them!!!! Though with thousands of jihadists all making the same journey to see the 72 virgins, I highly recommend to hassan to make sure he takes a few condoms with him to his grave!!!!!!!! Time foe a cigar and a stiff scotch to warm up!! It is freezing here in the greatest city on earth, NYC that is!!!!!!!!!
M

All here that believe Hasan should be spared should have to contribute to what will be his extraordinary care expenses.

This man, unworthy of the oxygen he breathes, is an invalid who will bleed the state of resources. If you think his latest demand is unreasonable, get ready for the unending demands yet to come, culminating in an early release--ala the Lockerbie Bomber--because he no longer poses a threat and is expensive to house.

His life sentence will be a life sentence for Americans given our dhimmi politicians and elected morons. Wheel this monster in front of a firing squad now.

Softly Bob suggests he's heard it all now . . .let's see if this story trumps the last:


Human Rights laws stop Algerian terror suspect with links to gas plant massacre group being deported because he is suicidal

But wait . . .it gets even more absurd:

"
The 43-year-old does not dispute he is a threat to national security"

So if a muslim claims to be suicidal, admitting he remains a potential threat to national security. . .in essence a wanna-be shahid with explosive dreams. . .his human rights may be violated if deported.

Hi Wellington, seems we're a small community, you, Miriam, myself and a few other like-minded guys, Robert included of course. But I hope it's growing.

I agree with Miriam on that issue. Nidal shouldn't get capital punishment but should rot in solitary confinement and get pork chops every day. That would be fun. Being Jewish I wish him a pork diet. Besides you never know what you can get out of those bastards, he might give away secrets as well.

But never forget that the poor chap's human rights were violated, because a misbehaving American judge threatened to shave his beard. This judge had no idea what community cohesion is about. That's the way they express in Britain.

I beg your pardon, but I can't help it, I need to be sarcastic.

Love to you and your loved ones, my friend

"Here there are no similar mitigating circumstance for yet another murderous Muslim cretan to be spared capital punishment. I say execute the bastard."

I wholly agree, Wellington ...

wrap him in pigskin and bury him facing west.

I really wish there were a like button!

I surmise S.O.A. prefers to avoid martyrdom?

Well, I see that two of my favorite allies here at JW, epistemology and Champ, have very different takes on what should happen to another low-life Muslim killer. Just goes to show you that reasonable minds, informed minds, can sometimes differ.

Well, for those who believe in freedom, like you ladies and yours truly, as opposed to those who don't, let's see, hmmm, maybe Muslims perhaps, we welcome real differences of opinion. Best to you both.

It's a minor disagreement, miriam.

One way or another, I just want to see this vile mass-murdering Jihdist convicted, and not pulling his "lawfare" crap in our courtrooms anymore.

I hope you enjoy your cigar and scotch and that you keep warn against the nasty New York chill!

The only decent, humane thing to do with this piece of ratshit, if I put it into words here, would get me instantly banned.

I come here recruit Wirgins for holy warrior in heaven. We run short. Re-cycle may be in order. Max.

I say, hang Nidal Hassan.

If we keep him alive, his comrades are likely to take hostages and demand we trade them for him, as they have done for Omar Abdel-Rahman ('The Blind Sheikh') and Aafia Sidiqi.

We need to get into the habit of executing criminal mujahidin, once they are duly convicted of capital crimes. Justice demands nothing less than their blood. They remain threats as long as we keep them alive.

And extradite 'David Chapman' to India. He has plenty to answer for over there. They'll know how to deal with him, if we don't.

How much is all of this game playing by this murderer's defense lawyer costing the United States Taxpayer?
This reads as if we're caught up in Military bureaucracy as well as Muslims' gleeful playing us for fools in the name of "legal proceedures".

What's happened to swift Justice? We've apparently fallen into a trap laid by our Muslim enemy.

I'm no lawyer. That perhaps explains my disgust with the way this is being toyed with by these Muslims.

However, if the new Judge is a woman, then let her exercise her judgement......that in itself has it's own poetry.

In a more perfect world, this Muslim enemy remaining still on trial would've been shot long ago for treason.

This is also an excellent example of how we've been infiltrated and penetrated by our Muslim enemy.

Additionally, let's not permit our infidel selves to be manipulated like marionettesby our Muslim enemy inside our own Military court system.

This is not a valid comparison, I'd guess...apples and oranges...however let's review the stark contrast of one Civilian Prosecutor Carmen Ortiz in a fit of pique can contribute, even indirectly, to the suicide of a young computer prodigy, it's shocking that our Military legal system in time of war against our Muslim enemy....at the same time permits this delay..delay...delay....

Something simply isn't right.

I say keep the worthless pos alive. Everyday he should be reminded of not getting 72 virgins.
Since he can't lift his ass on the floor to pray, I volunteer to go to the jail and whack him in the forehead with a board. Just like banging his head on the floor. Oh yeah!
No halal food, no prayer rugs, no queeran, no special anything.
Mentally torture this pos until he begs to be put to death.

Hi, Wellington! ...thank you, my dear friend.

Excuse me, not 'David Chapman', rather 'David Headly' or 'Daoud Gilani'or whatever he calls himself this week. Give him to the Indians.

The Fort Hoot shooter kept yelling out "Allahu Akbar" all the while he was commiting those heinous, brutal act of mass murder. He was and is a jihadist. His religion drove him to it. Therefore, he is guilty of murder and his religion, Islam, which inspired him to those cruel, viscious actions is also guilty of murder.

Five will get you ten the good judge Col. Osborn is already planning her party to celebrate her elevation to General. After all souls don't come all that cheap so the price will makethat party one you would'nt want to miss. She'll probably join Casey and Dempsey in their rabbit hutch at the Head Shed with all the other lovers of Islam and demented apostle. Can we all say dhimmi ?

I say he should get a dual sentence, 1. For every deliberate murder he committed to satisfy the blood thirst of his demon god, he gets a year of solitary confinement, isolate him in a cell far off from everyone else, with no diapers, and with no physical assistance of ANY OTHER HUMAN, Let him ROT in his own feces for 13 Years in this way., and 2. after these 13 years, HOSE HIM CLEAN and institute the death penalty, with 13 Needles simultaneously injecting him with the serum that sends him straight to his 72 virgins! He deserves to suffer in isolation & humiliation before he is given the freedom from this life!


Since he is paralyzed from the waist down and according to reports is devoid of a residual cremistemic reflex, those doe eyed boys and dewy virgins will have eternal lives as boring as he will have and that will really be the He$$ of it all.

To Nidal Hassan, who originally seemed to court so-called "martyrdom":

I stick my thumbs in my armpits, flap my arms, and shout, "buck-buck-buck-AAAA! Buck-buck-buck-AAAA!"

Hang him high, as in Danny Deever. Hassan did far worse than the subject of Kipling's poem.

Let's be realistic here.

If he is sentenced to life imprisonment rather than executed, then he will NOT be kept in solitary confinement, fed on pork chops, or any of the other desirable outcomes expressed above.

He will spend his life making demand after demand for special food, medical treatment, special privileges, etc, etc. All at the expense of the American tax payer.

He may even be released early, on compassionate grounds, or in some shady political deal with the barbarians.

Better by far to execute him now. His ridiculous trial has already cost the taxpayer a small fortune. It's true that he deserves far worse, but the civilised Western law systems are not geared up to provide it. We even make executions as painless as possible!

Just execute him, and forget him.
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Thanks for your kind words, Wellington. You're right, we're individuals with different ideas that lead to different conclusions for different reasons, unlike the muzzies who're herd animals following a self-appointed prophet. I love our diversity.

But we're brothers in arms and we'll carry on my friend.

Avenge vs Revenge

To avenge is to punish a wrongdoing with the intent of seeing justice done. Revenge is more personal, less concerned with justice and more about retaliation by inflicting harm.

According to Dictionary.com,

Avenge and revenge both imply to inflict pain or harm in return for pain or harm inflicted on oneself or those persons or causes to which one feels loyalty. The two words were formerly interchangeable, but have been differentiated until they now convey widely diverse ideas. Avenge is now restricted to inflicting punishment as an act of retributive justice or as a vindication of propriety: to avenge a murder by bringing the criminal to trial. Revenge implies inflicting pain or harm to retaliate for real or fancied wrongs; a reflexive pronoun is often used with this verb: Iago wished to revenge himself upon Othello.

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I'm providing the above information to give those who think that seeking the death penalty for this man as "revenge", when in fact it's seeking to avenge his murders.

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