India: Wahhabi preachers converting cultural Muslims to "purer form of Islam"

"The influx of scholars" from at least 25 countries are from neighbouring Pakistan and they move about in Tablighi Jamaats..... "

And they do that on tourist visas, just like in Europe, in the U.S. and Australia.

In reality these 'scholars' are terrorists and missionaries, enemy spies and soldiers of allah. The method of spreading the message of jihad and the preparation for it is unparalleled in any society and a testament to the evil genius of Islam.

The ease by which these missionary bandits can marry (and divorce) in any of these Muslim communities is mind boggling to anyone not familiar with the system. It beats any immigration laws just about anywhere, because there are always allowances for religious visas, spouse visas, and multiple other possibilities to gain entry.

Revoke their visas as soon as they are found to be not "tourists". Or better still, keep Pakistani Muslims out of India completely. Their "tourist" rupees are not worth the trouble.

Why can't laws and regulations be changed in OUR, ie non-Muslim, favour? Instead, they are changed to suit the Muslims who are barging in and pestering us. The law-makers don't have to SAY they are changing the laws to prevent Muslim nuisance; they can surely find other "reasons".

India: Wahhabi preachers converting cultural Muslims to "purer form of Islam"

As I have noted many times, jihadists and Islamic supremacists present their understanding of Islam as the pure and true version, the genuine article, pointing to the many violent passages in the Qur'an and Hadith to make their case...
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V ery, very true. And this is why, while there are quite a few lax Muslims, there are very few actual moderates.

What do I mean by that? Simply that there can be no moderate Muslims *on Islamic terms*—just non-devout Muslims who are getting away with what they can, and who generally try to keep a pretty low profile with their more pious coreligionists.

This is also why any society that experiences an Islamic revival—as so many are, as we speak—they *invariably* become more oppressive and vicious.

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...and they gain recruits among peaceful Muslims by doing so.
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These peaceful Muslims, as a rule, generally wind up a lot *less* peaceful after getting a heavy dose of that "ol' time religion"—when the religion in question is Islam.

That is why we can never count on peaceful Muslims remaining that way—not so long as they are Muslim at all.

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"‘Wahabi’ Islam gaining ground in the country"
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The problem is that "Wahabi" Islam is simply serious Islam, taken straight up. That's why it so easily "gain ground" in such diverse places as India, Nigeria, Turkey, Western China—and in the West.

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The Indian visa regime does not allow entry to Pakistani nationals if they do not have local sponsors and also bars entry to preachers of faith. Hence, all the scholars travel on a tourist visa.

The invites to the Pakistani Islamic scholars are extended by various well- known Islamic organisations like Tableeghi Jamaat Nizamuddin Markaz, Islamic Research Foundation, Ahl-e-Hadis and Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind among others.
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All this means is that India—like so many parts of Dar-al-Harb—has barbarians within its gates already. So this program is no safeguard whatsoever.

Ultra-conservative brand of Islam? Here we go again. Translation: ultra-conservative = reactionary = pure Islam.

Words mean things, deconstructionism and other modern nonsenses and obfuscations notwithstanding.

Very silly times in which we live. How else could a decrepit, desultory, despicable, destructive belief system like Islam presently be in comeback mode?

This is the travesty of Hindus. They did not understand Muslims and Islam way back in the time of Prithviraj Chauhan and let Mohammad Ghori let go 16 times, nor in the times of Mahatma Gandhi who let Muslims live in India even after giving them a nation of their own, nor do the present rulers of India and the usual MSM of India understand Muslims now. The result is Pakistani Army enters India and kills two soldiers, beheads them and takes away the head of one solider. How inhuman these Muslims are, can one imagine? And the Indian media and the leaders have such a muted reaction, one cannot believe they have the responsibility to defend the nation. It is in the same vein, these Wahabi preachers are allowed to come to India and we are seeing the consequences of this stupid policy.

Nobody can save Hindus from their own folly!!

From the report:

...the Wahabis, who trace their origin to Saudi Arabia and preach a purer form of Islam, are not new to the country and they had even participated in the ‘Gadar’ of 1857.

The "Gadar" of 1857 -- that would be the infamous "Mutiny" of 1857, which too many non-Muslim Indians remember only as a victory against the evil White British, while they conveniently forget their alliance with jihadists.

"Cultural Muslims?" "Moderate Muslims?" Tell you what, show me a "moderate muslim" and I'll show you a muslim...

"Devout" is how they're often termed in the media.

more pure, more devout, more mayhem, more death.

... more, close to Moe.

"Devout" is how they're often termed in the media.

more pure, more devout, more mayhem, more death.

... more, close to Moe.

A few days ago, LL was labeling the entire third world (billions of people), as follows

LL - "these Third World people, are they fucking children or little pathetic animals"

and here in his post again, he introduces the skin color issue, and continues his childish under-informed bigotry.

How many posts can LL go, without bringing in the white no-white issue?

In any case, the mainly Hindu protagonists did associate with jihadists, to break up the opposition. However, this would have been the main point of regret, had it not been for the inhuman massacres that followed the 1857 revolts.

as I just twitted Robert, you mean a purer bull s...
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Grrr...the system says it will not accept my comment so I try again...and again...sorry.

Muslim revivalists, going the rounds of the Ummah Fifth Column within India and within many other countries, bringing their slacko brethren right back to that Old Time Religion.

As was pointed out by Conor Cruise O'Brien back in 1995, as he contemplated the brutal jihad being waged by the zealous sharia-pushers against the deemed-insufficiently-Islamic Muslim government there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-lesson-of-algeria-islam-is-indivisible-1566770.html

CONOR CRUISE O'BRIEN
Friday 6 January 1995
The lesson of Algeria: Islam is indivisible

“Fundamentalist Islam" is a misnomer which dulls our perceptions in a dangerous way.

"It does so by implying that there is some other kind of Islam, which is well disposed to those who reject the Koran.

"**There isn't.** {my emphasis - dda}

"Islam is a universalist, triumphalist and political religion. It claims de jure dominion over all humanity; that is God's will. The actual state of affairs, with unbelievers of various sorts dominating most of the world, is a suspension of God's will anda scandal to the faithful. The world is divided between the House of Islam and the House of War, meaning the rest of us. {i.e. 'the West', Infidel Russia, Infidel India, Infidel China, the rest of Infidel East Asia, the Infidel Pacific, etc - dda}

"For more than two centuries now, the House of War has been in the ascendant, and the House of Islam has been abased.

"The remedy for this unnatural and intolerable state of affairs {note: CC O Brien's pen is here simply dripping with acid sarcasm - dda} is jihad.

"Jihad is defined as "the religious duty imposed on all Muslims to wage war upon those who do not accept the doctrines of Islam". The Prophet Mohamed himself not merely preached but waged jihad. God's word, dictated to the Prophet and preached by him, is binding on all Muslims, and his example is their inspiration...

"**What is going on today in the Muslim world is not the advent of some aberrant thing called Islamic fundamentalism but a revival of Islam itself - the real thing** {my emphasis - dda} - which Western ascendancy and Westernised post-Muslim elites no longer have the capacity to muffle and control.

"The jihad is back...".

"The tragic error of the French {and of certain other nations - dda} in trying to cope with the revival of Islam derives from a conceptual error;

"the illusion that "Islamic fundamentalism" is something distinct and separate from Islam itself. If separate, then detachable; if detachable, then eradicable - if necessary, by force.

"So reasoned those Cartesian minds, moving with impeccable logic to an erroneous conclusion, since their basic premise was false.

"That basic error is by no means confined to the French.

"It is very general in the West {and not only within the West, as we see from the laments of our Islamosavvy Indian brethren - dda}, and is affecting American policy, not in the "logical" French form, but in a more sentimental manner.

"According to a report in the Washington Post: "Administration
officials - like many scholars of Muslim teachings - distinguish between Islam as a religion and extremist political acts carried out in its name."

'Or, as President Clinton himself put it during his visit to Indonesia in November: "Even though we have had problems with terrorism coming out of the Middle East, it is not intrinsically related to Islam, not to the religion, not to the culture."...

{And even after 2001, and a string of other murderous attacks by proud Muslim raiders proudly quoting the Quran ad nauseam, our religious and political leaders in the West are *still* parroting this nonsense...dda}.

"President Clinton's personal approach to this matter appears to be governed by a kind of woozy ecumenism, fairly prevalent among Western liberal churchmen.

{And, alas, I fear, there is also a Hindu variety of same...the old 'all paths lead to the one god' line - dda}

"As the president told the Jordanian Parliament in October:
"After all, the chance to live in harmony with our neighbours and to build a better life for our children is the hope that binds us all together. Whether we worship in a mosque in Irbid, a Baptist church like my own in Little Rock, Arkansas, or a synagogue in Haifa, we are bound together in that hope."

"**All the great religions are the same" is the idea.

'Only they aren't.** {my emphasis - dda}

The Clintonian world view observes [sic: I think this ought to be ‘obscures’ - dda] the hard specificity of Islam.

"The Prophet Mohamed did not offer his followers a chance to live in harmony with their neighbours.

"He taught them to fight their neighbours, if they were unbelievers, and kill them or beat them into submission.

"And it is futile to say of those Muslims who faithfully follow those teachings today that their actions are "not intrinsically related to Islam".

"We are facing an Islamic revival...".

{And the revivalists are the Fethulla Gulens, the Hizb ut Tahrirs, the Tablighi Jamaats, the Muslim Brotherhood in its multiple wholly-owned franchises and front groups, etc etc and so forth - dda}

"How the West {or, for that matter, India - dda} should cope with the Islamic revival is a complex matter.

"But one thing is clear: we can never get it right if we go on trying to believe that there is something called "Islamic fundamentalism" which is somehow not intrinsically related to Islam itself."

Print this article off, folks. Share it with everyone you know. Share it with every politician you know who has even a glimmering of commonsense. (And this applies to India just as much as to the West).

Winston Churchill is not liked at all by some of our Indian posters and lurkers.

nevertheless, he said something, once, about Islam (that same belief system he described, elsewhere, in 'The Story of the Malakand Field Force' as 'the religion of blood and war'), that applies not only to the Indian situation but across the board, world-wide.

It was in the middle of a speech called 'Our Duty in India' that was made on March 18, 1931, in the Albert Hall, London.

It's a one-liner that neatly defines the 'default' position of Islam, as opposed to that of most other major cultures/ belief systems.

In Islam force, violence, is *the* underlying and overarching principle (a 19th century scholar called Palgrave defined Islam as 'a pantheism of force'), and it is their first and last 'argument' (as Benedict XVI drew to our attention some years ago, when he quoted Manuel Paleologus).

Churchill's aphorism runs thus:

"While the Hindu elaborates his argument, the Moslem sharpens his sword".

It is just as true if one substitutes for 'Hindu' the names of quite a few other groups.

:"While the Buddhist elaborates his argument, the Moslem sharpens his sword".

"While the Jew elaborates his argument, the Moslem sharpens his sword".

"While the Christian elaborates his argument, the Moslem sharpens his sword".

And one could probably insert 'Taoist' or 'Confucian' or 'modern secular atheist' in place of 'Hindu' as well, to allow this aphorism to cover a large portion of infidel humanity.

The Sikhs, born in the collision of Islam with the Hindu world, do carry a sword; in that sense they are *supposed* to be sharpening their swords as well as their wits, primarily in order to be ready to defend against Muslim attack ( just as the military religious 'orders' of late Christendom, the Templars and the Knights of St John, were supposed to be prepared, and as the IDF is supposed to be prepared, ready to spring to the defence of their infidel community at a moment's notice); but of late it is still Sikhs who are being persecuted, attacked and killed in Pakistan, for violence is not their whole raison d'etre.

At present, the Muslim revivalists, the recruiters for Combat Jihad, Jihad of the Sword, are using words (though I would not dignify their words with the term 'argument') as they criss-cross India and other lands; but the words they use are all about whipping up hatred and resentment of the world's Infidels, and getting Muslims to sharpen swords with renewed vigour and malice.

dumbledoresarmy,
Educational and interesting posts. Thank you.