Jewish Press publishes Muslim writer's whitewash of Islamic antisemitism

Sinem Tezyapar was so proud of this article that she sent it to me directly. I read it with great interest, as we're constantly told by Muslim and non-Muslim spokesmen in the U.S. that when jihadis justify their violence by referring to the Qur'an and Sunnah that they are misinterpreting and misunderstanding those sources, and that they really teach peace and tolerance. But rare indeed is a detailed explanation of exactly how the Qur'an and Sunnah teach peace and tolerance. So I read this to see if it could fill that gap. No such luck.

In this entire lengthy piece that purports to establish that Islam "does not command war against Jews," Tezyapar never mentions Qur'an 5:82, which designates the Jews "the most hostile of men to the believers." She never mentions 5:51, which tells Muslims not to take Jews or Christians as friends and protectors. She never mentions Sahih Muslim 6985, in which Muhammad says that “the last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”

In an article purporting to show that Islam doesn't command war against Jews, these omissions (and there are others) make the whole piece highly questionable. If Sinem Tezyapar really wanted to strike a blow against Islamic Jew-hatred, she could have explained why those and other passages should not be taken at face value, and shown how Islamic antisemites were actually misunderstanding them (if such a thing could really be done). Pretending they do not exist may fool credulous kuffar into complacency, but it will do nothing to stop Islamic Jew-haters from reading such passages and acting on them.

So why did the Jewish Press publish this exercise in soothing deception?

"Listen to Me: Islam Does Not Command War Against Jews," by Sinem Tezyapar in the Jewish Press, January 6:

In an op. ed. piece for the Jewish Press, I cited from the Qur’an to show that war is an exceptional matter for Muslims, an unwanted obligation to be fulfilled in limited circumstances, and for defensive purposes only.

In response, I’ve been denounced and accused of being a Trojan horse, the wolf trying to devour Little Red Riding Hood, of not being a Muslim or being the worst kind of liar, misguided, deceiver, of practicing taqiyya, of disseminating propaganda with the intention of deceiving Israelis & Westerners, of using jihadist tactics in disguise, etc.

The most moderate reaction has been that I am young, naive… and don’t know my religion and the real world.

Despite the criticism, I stand behind my words, and I say further that Hamas or any other Islamic group that uses violence against civilians is doing wrong according to the Qur’an and that Jews, Christians, and Muslims must and can live co-exist together in harmony and peace. The reactions to my statements have been along the following lines: “What about the jihad verses in Qur’an? What about taqiyyah? What about abrogation of the verses which counsel peace?”

Let me clarify these misconceptions about Islam so that there is no excuse for warmongers and those who wish to shed oceans of blood.

She then goes on at great length, sidestepping the real issues, and thereby raising the question of whether she really wants to take away the "excuse for warmongers," or aid and abet them.

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Sinem Tezyapar would do well to read Andrew Bostom's book, as she is in serious need of a reality check:

The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism: From Sacred Texts to Solemn History (2008)

The link to the original article ("In an op. ed. piece") is:


http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/according-to-islam-muslims-should-not-be-at-war-with-jews/2012/12/12/

MUSLIM ALLY

According to Islam, Muslims Should Not Be at War With Jews

The problem with writing like this is that it really doesn't matter one whit if this person's interpretation of Islam is well-grounded in Islamic texts, or is not well-grounded, or whatever. The reality that the world has to deal with is that millions of her fellow Muslims do NOT share her peaceful, tolerant interpretation of Islam. And that's why it's so hard to grant any of these Islamic apoligists any well-meaning motives: if they were truly interested in propogating a peaceful, moderate Islam, surely they would spend their time and effort convincing "extreme" Muslims, and not non-violent Westerners?

Put it this way:

why should we buy mental tosh from a female who is no more than chattel according to her own 'religion?'

Why should we bother with the da'awa efforts of a Muselmanic female who is only worth half of a man, according to her own belief-system?

Not to be taken seriously.

You're right on one level. But on another level, it does matter that Muslims like Sinem Tezyapar exert their struggles to be understood; for innumerable Western idiots (like the Jewish publishers of her jihad of the pen) will perceive her to be an exemplar of the hypothesis that there exist many other Muslims like her -- and this perpetuates the Myth of Moderate (or Lax, or Ignorant) Muslim.

And this myth, in turn, reinfornces our own anxious (and therefore) powerful prejudice we have (including many in the Counter-Jihad) of thinking we cannot discriminate against all Muslims in the interest of our safety.

Spencer doesn't mention whether Sinem Tezyapar adequately explains (away) the other Koran passages of relevance -- including their tafasir without which no Koran commentary is to be treated with any seriousness -- such as 9:29-34. I can't imagine how Tezyapar could twist those passages (and their tafasir) into pacifist verses.

So why did the Jewish Press publish this exercise in soothing deception?
...........................

Because, like so many other hopeful or just frightened Infidels, they "want to believe".

More:

In response, I’ve been denounced and accused of being a Trojan horse, the wolf trying to devour Little Red Riding Hood, of not being a Muslim or being the worst kind of liar, misguided, deceiver, of practicing taqiyya, of disseminating propaganda with the intention of deceiving Israelis & Westerners, of using jihadist tactics in disguise, etc...

“What about the jihad verses in Qur’an? What about taqiyyah? What about abrogation of the verses which counsel peace?”
...........................

Notice that she never actually addresses these issues? So much better just to mention them, and then act as though they are so absurd that she needn't comment on them further...

And she's an old hand at such whitewashing.

Here she is, noting that Muslims can marry Jewish women—without mentioning that there is a long, ugly history of Muslims' kidnapping and raping Jewish women—the loathsome "Prophet" did it himself—and that any children from such union must be raised Muslim. She also sidesteps the fact that no Jewish man would be allowed to marry a Muslim woman.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12568

Here she is, urging Turks and—unbelievably!—Israelis to aid the opposition—Jihadists—in Syria:

"Syrian people need urgent help from Israel, Turkey"

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=294336

And here she is, slamming Pamela Geller for daring to tell the truth about the violence of Islam—and claiming that pointing out violence is—somehow—itself violence:

"Murder on the Rail: Pamela Geller’s NY Subway Anti-Islam ads and the Language of Peace"

http://newsrescue.com/murder-on-the-rail-pamela-gellers-ny-subway-anti-islam-ads-and-the-language-of-peace/#axzz2HbHUmqiA

This attempted whitewashing or a cover up of the antisemitism is nothingless then trying to hide the truth about the wicked things that Islam teaches about the Jewish people. For example,the president of Egypt call Jews "apes and swine." Where does anyone think get got that idea. From nowhere else the from the Quran itself. As for example in 2:65:7:166:5:60. Furthermore , the reason for this has do do with the history of the life of Muhammad himself. This is because for a time Muhammad liveed among the Jewish people and he liked then at first. Later then they would not accept his claim of being a prophet he then took a dislike to them that turned into hate. So in his bitterness towards them he spoke many terrible and awful thing about them. These words of hate were written down on different thing and then, in time, eventually went into the composition of the Quran. Thus is the anti-Jewishness of Islam. Moreover,as a Christian I can keyboard Muhammad might had indded been a prophet But the important to understand that Muhammad was NOT a prophet sent by God. Instead, he was a lying deceptive false prophet sent by Satan who started a false religion. which is Islam. Jesus,in fact,predicted and warned about the coming of such men as Muhammad. For Jesus taught "Beware of false prophet,which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matthew 7;15. Also the Bible further warns that "many false prophets aregone out into the world." First John 4:1. [KJV]

To find out more about the Bible and other things about Islam and the Quran there is the internet site answering-islam.org

Very good additional information and analysis, gravenimage.

Just goes to show what Hugh Fitzgerald long ago wryly noted, that among many glibly (and seemingly) Westernized Muslim apologists, there is in fact a literal "taqiyya about taqiyya" -- i.e., a disingenuously innocent-seeming denial of the fact of taqiyya.

And, of course, this only works to the extent that too many Westerners among us are blithering idiots about Islam.

Believe me, Jews are every bit as ignorant of Islam as anybody else.
They may even be more ignorant, as a critical and realistic view of Islam could be misinterpreted by minority-sensitive Jewish liberals as some sort of prejudicial activity. A lot more Jews would be alive today if more of them had taken the time to study "Mein Kampf".

PC liberal jews are the worst enemies of Israel and the rest of the Jews. 10000 times more that the Islamists are.
M

Yes, while PC MC afflicts various types of people (by the millions throughout the West, as well as among its former colonies like India and the Philippines, to take just two examples) across many different sociological and cultural categories "without discrimination" (pun intended), the Jewish flavor of PC MC is distinctive, imbued with a soupçon of irrationally misplaced Holocaustophobia -- precisely aiding and abetting the grotesquely wrongheaded tendency to regard Muslims as "the new Jews" potentially to be "rounded up" and "put into camps" by the evil white West (yes, the same evil white West that spent money, time, and its own blood to help defeat Hitler; but never mind that).

It may be important to listen to what Mahoundians say, it is even more important to watch wha they do...What they say and what they do do not always resemble each other...Like 1984...The ministry of Peace wages war...

Yes, LemonLime, you are Miriam are sadly correct. Thanks for the feedback.

Dear Mr. Spencer,

As a Zionist and a Jewish believer from Jerusalem, I would like to thank you for defending the Jews against the Islamists who spread hatred and terrorism against my people. However, I would be delighted to see a similar approach toward Christian Jew-haters. History shows that Christianity has preached against the Jews and engaged in horrific violence against them, much more than the Muslim world ever did. Moreover, the Christian friends of Israel in our times often hide their true beliefs about the Jews being a cursed race that faces brutal destruction when Jesus returns. So, in a strange sort of way, many Christians are blaming moderate Muslims for doing exactly what "friendly" Christians are doing: They are being nice to us on the surface, but deep down in their hearts, they pray to God to destroy the People of Israel, because as long as the Jews exist on this planet, they prove that Christianity cannot replace God's True Word to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David and all those characters from the Hebrew Bible. The Christian true motive is world domination, not some pure, angelic love for God's Chosen People.

Jews often say: "With friends like this - who needs enemies?"

Shalom (= Peace),

Ehud Tokatly

I don't believe for a minute that you're a Jew and a Zionist from Jerusalem. You're a lying Muslim troll.

There is no wish, expressed or not, for Christians to wish the Jews any ill-will. Quite the contrary! The Christian Bible says that the Jews are God's people.

You also wrote: '..Christian friends of Israel in our times often hide their true beliefs about the Jews being a cursed race that faces brutal destruction when Jesus returns.'

Where do you get that garbage from? Give a chapter and verse quote.

Clown!

Buraq, Deuteronomy 28,Matthew 24, Revelation 13 and all the prophets, really. Our love for the jews is best expressed by telling them and those of all nations, to heed the warning in Ps. 2


Buraq,

This ehudtokatle character is a clown indeed, but why do you reject the possibility he might be a Jew?
Because, besides being a clown, he also is an idiot, liar, hypocrite and hater?
I assure you these traits are as common among Jews as they are among Gentiles. Jews can individually be as evil and dumb as non-Jews. There are perfectly normal people.

The last sentence should be "They are perfectly normal people".

Jeez, do you own a mirror? Quit whining about being hated and examine your own hatred and paranoia towards Christians, you big baby!

And then come back after you've grown up ...

"I don't believe for a minute that you're a Jew and a Zionist from Jerusalem. You're a lying Muslim troll."

I agree, Buraq ...we've seen this silly routine played out over and over again by muslims; where they try to get the attention off of evil islam and onto something else. Typical mohammedan behavior. Such pathetic slaves of allah.

Poster "Ehud Tokatly" is a mohammedan troll, and he's aiming at making Jews and Christians look bad; as we know, muslims HATE both Jews and Christians. It's his "jihad" coming out loud and clear.

This mohammedan has been exposed and he isn't fooling anyone here ...


''She then goes on at great length, sidestepping the real issues, and thereby raising the question of whether she really wants to take away the "excuse for warmongers," or aid and abet them''

Oh, aid and abet them, definitely. And to send such an article to you, Mr. Spencer, clearly underlines, yet again, the contempt which mohammedans feel for us, and their own short-sighted stupidity.

Did she really think you wouldn't pick up on her omissions ?

And as gravenimage noted, this seems to be the latest mohammedan tactic du jour; acknowledge that the *words* exist, (abrogation etc) but then airily skip past any actual discussion of their meanings. They really do think most of us are total idiots.

But sending her puerile little article to **you**, of **all** people ! is really entering shooting one's self in the foot territory.

Re 'Ehud', above.

A few remarks.

First, his claim that all Christians who identify as friends of Israel are only doing so out of some kind of sinister concealed agenda, is false.

I am a Christian - a convinced, old-fashioned Christian who, when I recite the Apostles' Creed or the Nicene Creed, assent fully to each statement, a Christian who believes that the risen Lord Jesus left footprints in the dust (i.e. that he was not a fiction nor an illusion nor a hallucination, but *real*, in space and time and history).

And far from being offended or threatened by the existence of the House of Israel, nor by the restoration of the Jewish state of Israel, I see the near-miraculous survival of the Jews, and the recent restoration of their tiny polity on their traditional homeland, despite everything hurled at them historically, as a strong evidence for the faithfulness of God. It doesn't challenge my faith; it *strengthens* my faith.

I know that *I* fail and fall; I know from history that the church has fallen flat on its face countless times, not least in the wretched, murderous - and, actually, if one thinks about it, heretical - nonsense of the deicide charge made against all Jews qua Jews by foolish and deceived Christians who in scapegoating Jews tried to evade their own human complicity, as sinners, in the death of the righteous one. But I know, from the history of the Jews, that failure is not final, that God is committed to us and that though he chastises us he can also be relied upon to restore us and raise us up. That there is never, never, never an end to love.

SEcond, his claim that "the Christian friends of Israel in our times often hide their true beliefs about the Jews being a cursed race that faces brutal destruction when Jesus returns."

WRONG. I was raised in a Christian home, read lots of Christian books, and I had never encountered this idea in even one book or sermon that I heard..*not one*. It is NOT part of orthodox Christian teaching; it is not part of the creeds (the only political/ ethnic entity that gets a mention, obliquely, in the creeds, is imperial Rome: 'he [Jesus] suffered under Pontius Pilate').

As a teenager I read Corrie Ten Boom's The Hiding Place, and her description of that defining moment where she stood in a street in Holland, having realized what the Nazis were planning to do to the Jews, and made a vow to God: "Lord Jesus, I offer myself for your people. Any time. Any thing". That vow took her to Ravensbruck; that vow, shared by her father and sister, led to their deaths.

It is possible to be a full-on convinced orthodox Christian and feel nothing but sincere love of and friendship toward Jews, and the House of Israel. As is shown sufficiently by James Parkes, Anglican clergyman, and by Jacques Ellul, Righteous Gentile, in his book 'Un Chretien Pour Israel' and in his later book 'Ce Dieu Injuste? Theologie Chretienne pour le Peuple d'Israel" (where he shows, among other things, that certain texts that have been historically used - and, in fact, misused - by 'christian' antisemites as 'proof texts', need not and indeed ought not to be read or used in that way).

'Ehud', if he is very strongly Orthodox, would probably claim that a Jewish-born-and-bred friend of mine, who became a Christian - a follower of the Jesus way - in adulthood, and is now indeed a theologian and a parish priest, has ceased to be 'Jewish'. I don't agree; she is a Jewish Christian, just as a Welsh Christian is a Welsh Christian (and if there are persons, Jewish by descent, within Israel and citizens thereof, who are atheists and agnostics and Buddhists or dabble in Hindu ideas and visit Hindu gurus, why should the ethnic/ ancestral and *cultural* Jewishness of someone who follows Jesus - who was, after all, Jewish by birth and rearing -be denied). My friend's *ethnicity*, her family lineage, her Jewish 'nationality', so to speak, has not altered, and she maintains a close and loving relationship with and loyalty to her whole ethnic community of origin, including parents and sibling (who are Jewish) and she stands up boldly for the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state (she and I are entirely in agreement that the war waged by Arabs against Israel is a Jihad).

Finally:

"History shows that Christianity has preached against the Jews and engaged in horrific violence against them, much more than the Muslim world ever did."

I would not be so sure about that. The 'Christian' record is awful, a total contradiction of *the* core principle of charity that Jesus taught, and it makes me feel deep grief and shame every time I contemplate it; but the Muslim record - much less well documented, is far, far worse than most people think. The Muslim record has been assiduously *whitewashed* and covered-up.

There is also the phenomenon of dhimmitude, a mindset of denial; those who live or lived as dhimmis, no matter whether they be Christians, Jews, Hindus, Zoroastrians - tend to *deny* what is being done to them, or what was done to them (if they have physically escaped from dar al Islam), for dhimmis are conditioned by their Muslim masters and Abusers into enduring the most appalling treatment without complaint or resistance, like one sees happenign with severely abused children or spouses. (Ehud should read 'The Third Choice: Islam, dhimmitude and Freedom', by Mark Durie, which goes into this psychodynamic in great - and grim, gut-churning - detail).

Even a cursory read of Bat Yeor's 'The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam', or of Part One of Andrew Bostom's 'The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism', shows one that Muslim hatred of Jews is hard-wired into Islam and has been expressed in a relentless grinding-down of Jewish communities within the dar al Islam, punctuated by episodes of mass murder on the grand scale, by many smaller scale pogroms, lynchings, murders and kidnappings, and episodes of violent, forced conversion ( in Yemen, in Islamic Spain, in Afghanistan, in Persia, to name just a few). Ehud should also consult Martin Gilbert, 'In Ishmael's House' and Norman Stillman, The Jews of Arab Lands, or David Littman's 'Exile in the Maghreb' which focuses on the experience of Jewish dhimmis in North Africa. And he should read Maimonides' letter to the Jews of Yemen, which makes it clear that Maimonides regarded Arabs - that is, Muslims - as *the* worst persecutors of Jews.

A final note. Even after the dreadful mass-murder of the Shoah in Western and Central Europe, which was carried out by Europeans who strongly admired Islam and had copied from Islam (Hitler read and studied, assiduously, books by a Muslim jihad fomenter, at the time when he was composing Mein Kampf and inventing Nazism), there were still many, many more Jews within the lands of former Christendom, than had managed to survive within dar al Islam.

A slight correction to the above - the phrase in the final paragraph, which reads (re the Shoah) " which was carried out by Europeans who strongly admired Islam and had copied from Islam " should, on reflection, read "which was instigated by Europeans who strongly admired Islam and had copied from Islam...".

One of Goebbels' pet scholars was one Johann von Leers who was not merely a rabid antisemite but deeply admired Islam; not least because of what he saw as Islam's superior track record to Christianity, in the little matter of suppressing the Jews. After the Third Reich was defeated he scuttled off to dar al Islam and very soon recited the Shahada; thus abandoning an ersatz European reflex of Islam, for the real thing. He wasn't the only Nazi to do so, either, by a long chalk.

There is nonetheless a tension between Christianity and Judaism; how can there not be, when followers of the former claim it to be a fulfillment of the latter, while followers of the latter answer that they don't need any more "fulfillment" thank you very much.

Certainly, this tension is in most cases adjudicated and enacted with civility, intelligence, mutual respect, cordiality and even a sense of humor where appropriate -- utterly unlike how Muslims deal with their differences with their many Others.

But to deny there is any fundamental tension based on the most important principle of each religion seems disingenuous and is not in fidelity to the virtue of truth and honesty cultivated in each.

The philosopher Eric Voegelin offered an interested metaphor about these two religions: Israel is a tree, and Judaism and Christianity are branches growing out of that tree. (Or perhaps one could say Israel is a father, and Judaism and Christianity are brothers with occasional bouts of sibling rivalry and occasionally indulging in "Papa loves me best!")

Dear Buraq, Thomas_H and Champ,

I sincerely apologise for not replying earlier. You may not believe me, but as a Torah observant Jew, I never write or use my computer on the Holy Sabbath, that ended in Jerusalem a few hours ago.

Well, you don't believe me that I am who I claim to be. I can only repeat the truth: My real and only name is Ehud Tokatly. I am an Orthodox Jew and a Zionist. I live with my wife in Jerusalem, where my father's family has lived for seven generations. My mother escaped from Germany in 1933, but most of her family was murdered by the Nazis. I was born in Israel on June 9th 1953 and you can see more details and what I look like here: http://www.hopeways.org/e_ehud02.shtml.

I have no reason to conceal my real identity. Do you?

If you are decent human beings, you would feel the urge to apologise for cursing me (clown, idiot, liar, a lying Muslim troll, hypocrite and hater, evil and dumb etc.).

Now - Dear dumbledoresarmy,

I read with interest your comments and got the impression that you are an honest and serious individual. I would therefore like to clarify:
I did not say that "all Christians who identify as friends of Israel are only doing so out of some kind of sinister concealed agenda". I wrote that "the Christian friends of Israel in our times often hide their true beliefs about the Jews being a cursed race that faces brutal destruction when Jesus returns". I wrote OFTEN, not ALL.

Specifically -
Do you deny that the Christian vision is that the people who do not accept Jesus will be destroyed in the Judgement Day?
Do you deny that one of the most popular interpretations of Matthew 27:24-25 has been that the Jews cursed themselves and their children?

The bottom line is this:
Do you accept the Jews who do not accept Jesus as your equals?
No church has ever done so.

Us Jews have always believed that any human being who believes in One God and follows His basic moral commandments shall surely go to paradise. Jews are no better than Christians and Muslims in that regard. We have no desire to convert anyone to Judaism, nor do we hate any human being who does not threaten us.
So anyone who accepts us AS WE ARE - is our friend.

It's as simple as that.

Blessings,

Ehud


Sorry, I hope my link works better here:
http://www.hopeways.org/e_ehud02.shtml

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