Mali: "Welcome to the city of Sharia"

"There's really no such thing as just Sharia, it's not one monolithic Continuum - Sharia is understood in thousands of different ways over the 1,500 years in which multiple and competing schools of law have tried to construct some kind of civic penal and family law code that would abide by Islamic values and principles, it's understood in many different ways..." -- Reza Aslan

And yet whenever we see Sharia implemented, it looks the same. Now, why is that?

"Under the Mali militants’ reign of terror: refugees tell of life under Islamist rule," by Colin Freeman for the Telegraph, January 19 (thanks to Lookmann):

Having routed the Malian soldiers who were supposed to keep them at bay, the masked fighters toured the neighbourhood, dishing out sweets to children and stern religious sermons to adults.

Lest anyone fail to get the hint, they also laid waste to Diabaly’s church, used by the small Catholic community that has dwelt among the Muslims there for as long as anyone can remember.

They removed the church’s cement cross and destroyed it,” said Asseye Touré, 26, who fled Diabaly on his motorbike on Friday, driving 20 miles down a track through rice paddies and onion fields to the government-held town of Niono.

“They said they didn’t want to harm us, but that we should all live under Islamic law.”

Mr Touré, a farmer, was among hundreds who hastily left Diabaly on Friday, some by minibus and others crammed 15-a-piece on the back of rice carts towed by motorbikes.

The militants had rolled into the village in a 40-vehicle convoy on Monday, proving they could still capture new ground despite the onset of the French military offensive against their strongholds across northern Mali.

For proof of just how easily they had done so, Mr Touré brandished a picture he had taken on his mobile phone, showing the corpse of a Malian soldier dumped amid the rushes of a nearby river.

“I saw about three dead bodies there,” he said. “The Malian military could not stop them.”

This weekend, the French military appeared to be having rather better luck, with air strikes forcing the militants to flee Diabaly into surrounding forests near the Mauritanian border.

Even so, officials in nearby Niono remained anxious that the militants might suddenly strike there too, and last night (SAT) a column of French armour arrived to secure the town.

“People are still worried, because there are lots of ways into Niono,” said Moriba Coulibaly, the town’s mayor.

Mr Coulibaly’s words echo fears that Mali’s militants may prove rather more resilient than the French initially thought, and that if they cannot compete in a conventional battle, they will respond with insurgent tactics.

This was demonstrated by last week’s mass seizure of hostages across the border in Algeria.

Critics point out that if a police state such as Algeria cannot stop serious terrorism incidents, then Mali’s coup-weakened government will stand even less chance — with or without foreign military support.

France’s president, François Hollande, ordered the intervention amid fears that Mali, one of the poorest nations in Africa, was on the point of hosting a “terrorist state” on its vast northern desert flank.

The action, expected to involve a total of 2,500 French troops, has been backed by British transport planes, raising fears of a prolonged Western entanglement in another predominantly Muslim region....

In Timbuktu last week, the first hint that the militants might be losing control came in the form of yet another gun-enforced edict.

Having already banned most forms of temptation, including music, dancing, drinking and smoking, the city’s “morality police” warned locals not to take any pleasure in the fact that French warplanes had been bombing their bases and supply dumps.

“On Wednesday night, the Islamist people went round telling everyone not to show any happiness or joy because of the French intervention,” Timbuktu’s mayor, Halle Ousmane, told The Sunday Telegraph.

“They warned that if they did, they would come to their houses and attack them.”

By then, though, the militants’ ability to enforce their threats already seemed to be diminishing.

The French bombardments had already forced many to flee into the surrounding Sahara desert, while those still in the city were said to be panicking every time they heard an aircraft in the distance.

“Until last week, everyone was scared, all the women were covered up except for the eyes,” said Mr Ousmane, 60, who was visiting Bamako when the bombing began.

“But when I spoke to my wife on Thursday morning, she said that she had taken her veil off, as had most of the other women in Timbuktu. The French military intervention has finally brought us some hope.”

The takeover of the north followed a coup last March by the Malian army, whose poorly equipped soldiers were suffering heavy losses in a guerrilla war against the lighter-skinned nomads of Mali’s Tuareg separatist movement.

The Tuaregs, who have long been in tension with the black Africans of the south, had returned to northern Mali with heavy weaponry after fighting as mercenaries in 2011 for Col Muammar Gaddafi.

But while the coup easily toppled the regime of President Amadou Toumani Touré, the ensuing chaos left the north open for takeover by the Tuareg separatist militia, the National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad, more commonly referred to by its French abbreviation of MNLA.

And with the separatists came fighters known by a much more sinister acronym — AQIM, or al-Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb.

Having initially formed an alliance of convenience with the Tuaregs, AQIM quickly staged a coup of its own, sidelining the separatists and turning Timbuktu not into a Tuareg homeland, but into a mini-caliphate.

At the entrance to the city, twinned with Hay-on-Wye in Wales in 2007, a new sign went up saying “welcome to the city of sharia”.

While the city’s governor and prefect left, Mr Ousmane decided to stay, requesting a meeting with Timbuktu’s self-declared new masters.

It brought him face-to-face with a short, taciturn al-Qaeda leader named Abu Zaid, whose unassuming appearance belies a brutal reputation.

In 2009, he is believed to have ordered the murder of Edwin Dyer, the British hostage, kidnapped along with three other European tourists after attending a Tuareg cultural festival near the Mali-Niger border.

“At first they didn’t even let us speak at the meeting, and Abu Zaid, along with others, just recited verses from the Koran,” said Mr Ousmane.

“They said we have to talk about religion, and I told them that we were already Muslim people, so why were they here? They said they wanted sharia not just in Timbuktu, but all over Mali. And they told me, 'You are no longer mayor’.”

A Taliban-style regime then took hold, turning a city recently famed for its world music festivals into one where the only melodies allowed — even on mobile telephone ring tones — were Koranic verses.

Those who broke the rules were hauled before a sharia court in a former tourist hotel, where punishments such as flogging by camelhair whip were dispensed.

Suspected thieves would be strapped to a chair and have a hand amputed — sometimes with a painkiller administered by a doctor first, sometimes not. Mr Ousmane’s daughter was arrested by the Islamic morality police simply for wearing a veil that was not black.

“They told her it looked too pretty, and that they could smell the perfume she was wearing at 100 metres,” he said.

Mr Ousmane decided the safest thing to do was to tell his fellow citizens to co-operate, fearing they would be killed if they were provoked into retaliation, such as when the Islamists began destroying Timbuktu’s mud-built Islamic shrines for being “idolatrous”.

“It was horrifying when they did that, but what they destroyed is only mud, and we are Muslims in our hearts,” he said. “The day they leave, we can rebuild them.”

Also nursing reconstruction plans is Sadou Diallo, 57, the mayor of the northern city of Gao, whose private property empire incurred Islamist wrath for rather different reasons.

Not only did he own two raucous nightclubs, frequented by hip hop DJs and local ladies of the night, he also had a chain of hotels rented out to US special forces teams, who until last year, were training troops in Gao as part of a counter-terrorism strategy.

“All of my properties were burned down and I lost about £500,000,” said Mr Diallo, whose office wall in Bamako bears a “certificate of appreciation” from 1st Bn, 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne).

“When the French attacked last week, I felt alive for the first time since last year.”

Quite how long Malians’ new-found love affair with their former imperial masters will last is another matter.

While some see it as a benign intervention that could heal old colonial wounds altogether, others think it will simply reopen them, especially if it attracts even more jihadists to the country.

And while France has pledged to stick with the mission “as long as it takes”, the military side is just one aspect of it.

Equally daunting is the task of holding fresh elections, slated for later this year, that will find a credible replacement for the ousted Mr Touré, whose corrupt, ineffectual regime achieved little more than giving democracy a bad name.

“We used to have a usually very tolerant brand of Islam, but bad governance is pushing people into embracing militant causes,” said one Malian development worker....

That leaves open the question of why people choose Sharia in places not significantly marked by "bad governance." Is Turkey re-Islamizing and discarding Kemalist secularism because of "bad governance"?

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"... Sharia is understood in thousands of different ways over the 1,500 years" US clown Reza Aslan

(video) "human" Shari'ah vs. evil Qur-ân
ALLAH IS 100% PURE EVIL

e.g. Q. 5:38 "(thieves) AMPUTATE their HANDS"
vs. German Constitution Article 2, Paragraph 2 "Everybody has the right to life AND PHYSICAL INTEGRITY"

http://schnellmann.org/human-sharia-vs-evil-quran.html

"LOVE ALLAH" for his determent & his "wisdom" not to kill the thieves :-)

“They (devout Muslims) said they didn’t want to harm us, but that we should all live under Islamic law.” ... according to Allah's Quran 9:29 "... until they (Jews & Christians) pay the Jizya (protection tax to Allah) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued (as so-called dhimmis, 2nd class citizens with NO RIGHT to rule a land)."

We used to have a usually very tolerant brand of Islam...

What brand is that? And what does 'usually tolerant' mean?

Winning the war against Islamic militants is not necessary, but they must be constantly weakened by drone strikes and swat teams. The militants have only one ideology and it is that of gaining a larger share of the nation’s wealth. Pacifying militants by giving them the opportunity to become drug dealers is a workable option.

"That leaves open the question of why people choose Sharia in places not significantly marked by "bad governance." Is Turkey re-Islamizing and discarding Kemalist secularism because of "bad governance"?"

Absolutely, the AKP has actually brought corruption down and cleaned up much of the mismanagement of the past administrations. Istanbul was a dirty malfunctioning city before the AKP took over.

"Absolutely, the AKP has actually brought corruption down and cleaned up much of the mismanagement of the past administrations. Istanbul was a dirty malfunctioning city before the AKP took over."

I suppose Hamas has actually brought corruption down in Gaza and cleaned up much of the mismanagement of the past Fatah regime. Germans, in large numbers, chose the Nazi party because of the bad governance inherent in the Weimar Republic. Hitler brought self-respect and prosperity to Germany. Americans voted for Barack Obama due to the dirty malfunctioning of George W. Bush and the Republicans; his filthy wars and all. Many believe Obama has brought self-respect (we are still waiting for prosperity) once again to America.

Only liars and the underinformed, call them 'militants'...They are jihadist's fighting in Allah's cause(s), in order to fulfill the orders given them in Quran and the examples of Mahound...It is fine with Allah if they enrich themselves, at kuffar expense, while removing obstacles from the spread of Islam and installing sharia...You cannot pacify the jihadists by giving him anything...He will take your money and kill you anyway...because, money will not get him into Allah's Paradise, the price for those virgins is his life, he can't buy them...

@wildjew,

irony is a double-edged sword.those in hurry will take it at its face value and feel perplexed.

well, i for one, liked it very much.

I'll take freedom and corruption over no freedom and no corruption (if such is possible) any time.

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Wellington

re lebel's comment about 'corruption' and also his reference to Istanbul being 'dirty' and then having been cleaned up the sharia-isers under Erdogan.

Let us never forget that terms like 'corrupt', 'corruption' and 'dirty' or 'unclean' mean something different in Islamspeak from what they mean for us infidels.

'Corruption' seems to mean, in Islamspeak, 'anything not-Islam/ contrary to sharia, or, anything that may just possibly incline Muslims to become less Islamic or to leave Islam'.

So, for example, Christianity = corruption.

Judaism = corruption.

Western enlightenment philosophy = corruption

The religious music of J S Bach or W A Mozart = corruption

The pieta = corruption.

Ordinary modest non-Muslim female dress = corruption.


Etc.

As for 'dirty'...well, we all know that in Muslim eyes we are najis kuffar, filthy unbelievers, no matter how often we bathe and how scrupulously our infidel municipal councils maintain the sewerage system and take away the garbage.

We know that 'dirty' and 'impure' = kuffar/ anything-not-Islam and 'clean' and 'pure' = islamic/ sharia-compliant.

A live girl receiving a text message from a boy = dirty.

A dead girl with a slit throat and 500 stab wounds lying in the gutter after she's been 'honor' murdered = cleanliness, because the family's perverted notion of 'honor' has been 'cleansed'.

For Muslims who practise FGM as per the instructions of the Shafiite school of sharia, a healthy Infidel woman's intact genitalia = dirty, but the hideous scar left on a Muslimah's body after her clitoris and labia have been excised sans anaesthetics and sans antisepsis or antibiotics, after which urine and menses, able only to trickle out slowly through a tiny hole, 'back up' (and fester, and most likely emit foul odours due to ongoing smouldering infections) is 'pure' and 'clean'.


The Gates of Vienna blog is once again inaccessible -- it went down about 3 days ago, then suddenly re-appeared for no apparent reason. It was thought to be just a technical glitch.

Now, for at least the last 24 hours if not longer, GOV is down again. This time, it looks like more than a "glitch". Instead of getting to the blog when you click on its link, you get this Orwellian, Kafkaesque notice:

"This blog is under review due to possible Blogger Terms of Service violations and is open to authors only".

And what "Term of Service" did Gates of Vienna likely "violate"? No doubt this one, found under their "Content policy" page, in which with one hand they claim to support freedom of speech, but with the other -- just as the Constitution under the totalitarian Soviet Union in large print guaranteed rights but took them away in the fine print -- they provide themselves with a broad loophole to arbitrarily invoke the irrational paradigm of PC MC in order to trample that right:

Hate Speech: We want you to use Blogger to express your opinions, even very controversial ones. But, don't cross the line by publishing hate speech. By this, we mean content that promotes hate or violence towards groups based on race, ethnicity, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity. For example, don't write a blog saying that members of Race X are criminals or advocating violence against followers of Religion Y.

Just a coincidence that the two largest most popular counter-jihad sites (Jihad Watch, and Gates of Vienna) get plagued with interference at roughly the same time?

By the way, Jihad Watch still seems to be having problems -- I'm still getting strange differences I never saw before during the sign-in process; and just trying to type and review this comment here was strangely slow and full of hiccups.

As usual, dda, you make a good point. Corruption to a Muzzie does not equate so many times over to corruption as free people would see it (freedom and Islam, as you yourself know too well, being mutually exclusive).

Particularly of interest to me over the past few years is the way Muslims keep insisting that traditional dress for Muslimas is "modest," the implication being, as gravenimage and others have noted here at JW, that non-Muslim women wear what is "immodest."

So tired of this game-playing and holier-than-thou crap by Muslims. Who of sense and knowledge shouldn't be by now?

Hope you're doing well, dda. I trust your eye problem is in significant remission, if not a bother at all anymore. Take care, my learned friend.

"This weekend, the French military appeared to be having rather better luck, with air strikes forcing the militants to flee Diabaly into surrounding forests near the Mauritanian border."

I doubt if "forcing the militants to flee" will destroy the militants allegance to their beloved Prophet. Chasing them around only keeps them from being effective in their quest for the perfect jihad.

Only the truth and proper education throoughtout the world, will end the terrorisum.

Islamspeak in Dar-al-Islam is to appear outwardly pious yet me first, thuggishly corrupt. The order of things the groveling poor rail against. Nonetheless, despite the fatalistic outlook, they scheme to claw their way out of the gutter and reign above the stench from whence they came. The Islamic Thugocrats holding the reigns in the House of Peace is populated with former pheasants.

"They removed the church’s cement cross and destroyed it," -- headline

1 Corinthians 1:18 ...

"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

Mali: "Welcome to the city of Sharia"
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Might as well say, "Welcome to Hell on Earth".

More:

"Under the Mali militants’ reign of terror: refugees tell of life under Islamist rule"
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Whereever Shari'ah is imposed, large numbers of people flee the savagery. Of course, the "Islamists" would just consider these people "insufficiently Islamic".

More:

Lest anyone fail to get the hint, they also laid waste to Diabaly’s church, used by the small Catholic community that has dwelt among the Muslims there for as long as anyone can remember.

“They removed the church’s cement cross and destroyed it”
...............

Of course they did. There can be no churches in the "City of Shari'ah"...

More:

And with the separatists came fighters known by a much more sinister acronym — AQIM, or al-Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb.

Having initially formed an alliance of convenience with the Tuaregs, AQIM quickly staged a coup of its own, sidelining the separatists and turning Timbuktu not into a Tuareg homeland, but into a mini-caliphate.
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This should serve as a message to any who ally with "Islamists"...but it probably won't.

More:

At the entrance to the city, twinned with Hay-on-Wye in Wales in 2007, a new sign went up saying “welcome to the city of sharia”.
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Hay-on-Wye is known as the "Town of Books" for its large number of bookstores and for its huge annual antiquarian book fair. Compare and contrast...

More:

“At first they didn’t even let us speak at the meeting, and Abu Zaid, along with others, just recited verses from the Koran,” said Mr Ousmane.
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But, of course, their takeover has nothing to do with Islam...sarc/off

More:

“They said we have to talk about religion, and I told them that we were already Muslim people, so why were they here?
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They may be Muslim, but they just aren't Muslim enough...

More:

A Taliban-style regime then took hold, turning a city recently famed for its world music festivals into one where the only melodies allowed — even on mobile telephone ring tones — were Koranic verses...
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Wow! How did a "Taliban-style" regime take hold—what could Mali, half a world away, *possibly* have in common with Afghanistan? Might it be...Islam?

More:

Quite how long Malians’ new-found love affair with their former imperial masters will last is another matter.

While some see it as a benign intervention that could heal old colonial wounds altogether, others think it will simply reopen them, especially if it attracts even more jihadists to the country.
...............

Good to know that even the "moderate" Muslims are gearing up to blame the "filthy Kuffar" if their more devout coreligionists prove sufficiently savage...

More:

Equally daunting is the task of holding fresh elections, slated for later this year, that will find a credible replacement for the ousted Mr Touré, whose corrupt, ineffectual regime achieved little more than giving democracy a bad name.

“We used to have a usually very tolerant brand of Islam, but bad governance is pushing people into embracing militant causes,” said one Malian development worker....
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Uh...right. The same old canard—that the imposition of Shari'ah is all about "corruption"...

Or that the only solution to a corrupt regime is the imposition of Shari'ah.

In that case, places like Italy and the state of Louisiana never would have enacted any reforms, but would have gone straight to amputations and stonings...

Besides, even genuinely corrupt states are, in almost every instance, still more decent than the horror of Shari'ah.

And yet another trope is that Shari'ah, while it may be brutal, is still all about "justice".

In reality, this is anything but the case. Not only is Shari'ah incredibly bloody, but—by its very nature—it is arbitrary and subject to whatever biases the local strongman may have—against victims of other tribes, of other Muslim sects, and, in many cases, simply people he would like to get rid of so he can seize their assets.

The concept of Shari'ah is that any miscarriage of justice can be sorted out by "Allah".

More:

That leaves open the question of why people choose Sharia in places not significantly marked by "bad governance." Is Turkey re-Islamizing and discarding Kemalist secularism because of "bad governance"?
...............

And even more than in places like Turkey or Indonesia, why do pious Muslims strive to replace the governments of vibrant democracies such as France and Britain with Shari'ah? What crap...

Lebel wrote:

Absolutely, the AKP has actually brought corruption down and cleaned up much of the mismanagement of the past administrations. Istanbul was a dirty malfunctioning city before the AKP took over.
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Why, yes—Erdogan and the "Islamists" are working to clean up the "corruption" of a semi-free press, the "corruption" of murderers of Christians and "disobedient" women possibly seeing actual prison time, the "corruption" of having a relatively civilized relationship with Jewish Israel, and the "corruption" of having anything resembling a secular state.

Notice: he does not say that the AKP was "elected", he says that they "took over". Because true Islam is always about the seizure of power.

And notice further that "Lebel" has not a word of criticism for the butchers of northern Mali, who are amputating the hands of suspected thieves and stoning unmarried couples to death, leaving their children orphans.

*This* is what he wants to replace Kemalism with...

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