#MyJihad in Australia: Muslim leader misunderstands Islam, says, "Army of Muslims...went to China, India, and the Maghreb. That is jihad."

Yet again the culprit here is easily identifiable.
Hashish that is.
M

Australians once had a reputation for not tolerating what they call 'bullshit'. The word has many meanings including lies, whining, special pleading, etc. and this cleric typifies what they hate.
Hopefully Aussies have retained their contempt of his sort and 'throw out the garbage' ASAP

From the article - "Queensland Liberal MP Steve Ciobo said the sheik should adopt Australia's values of tolerance and a fair go for all or "pack up and ship off"."

SECONDING THAT, SIR.

I read the rest of the article. I think Mr Ciobo, MP, may have been doing his homework.

'Mr Ciobo said if Mr Al-Wahwah held dual citizenship the government should facilitate his move to another country more to his liking.

{HEAR, HEAR! - dda}

"I couldn't care less if he preaches to five people or 5000," he said.
"It only takes one or two crazies to take his message of jihad and to cause problems.

PRECISELY - dda.

"If he's going to preach a message that this country needs to be under sharia law then he should go to where he can live under sharia law - and that is not in Australia."'

Ladies and gentlemen (I address all Australians reading and posting here): we need to get behind Mr Steve Ciobo and PUSH.

Write to him. Thank him for plain speaking. Encourage him.

Back him up; say that we, too, would like to see Sheik Wahwah's Australian citizenship cancelled and the Sheik - a rabble-rouser and seditionist if ever I saw one, and a standing menace to all Australian non-Muslims - packed off back to whatever Islamic country he originally came from and where, via citizenship of that country, he maintains a foothold.

Furthermore: I do think Mr Ciobo needs to be educated just a little bit more.

He said, reportedly: "This Sheik Al-Wahwah needs to be slapped down from moderate Muslim supporters who recognise there is no place in Australia for these kinds of attitudes...".

Mr Ciobo needs to grasp that there is, in the end, only Islam, Islam, Islam; there are Muslims, committed to islam, or there are apostates.

That Jihad, which Sheik Wahwah is advocating, is hardwired into Islam.

He needs to read Conor Cruise O'Brien, and he also needs to read Ali Sina, on 'moderate' Muslims.

Here's ex-Muslim Ali Sina:

http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/2010/03/13/exposing-the-myth-of-moderate-islam/

Exposing the Myth of Moderate Islam

'Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire.

' For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

'It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not.'

And Conor Cruise O'Brien, in 1995:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-lesson-of-algeria-islam-is-indivisible-1566770.html

CONOR CRUISE O'BRIEN
Friday 6 January 1995
The lesson of Algeria: Islam is indivisible

Excerpt:

“Fundamentalist Islam" is a misnomer which dulls our perceptions in a dangerous way.

'It does so by implying that there is some other kind of Islam, which is well disposed to those who reject the Koran. There isn't.

'Islam is a universalist, triumphalist and political religion. It claims de jure dominion over all humanity; that is God's will. The actual state of affairs, with unbelievers of various sorts dominating most of the world, is a suspension of God's will anda scandal to the faithful. The world is divided between the House of Islam and the House of War, meaning the rest of us.

'For more than two centuries now, the House of War has been in the ascendant, and the House of Islam has been abased.

'The remedy for this unnatural and intolerable state of affairs is jihad.

' Jihad is defined as "the religious duty imposed on all Muslims to wage war upon those who do not accept the doctrines of Islam". The Prophet Mohamed himself not merely preached but waged jihad. God's word, dictated to the Prophet and preached by him, is binding on all Muslims, and his example is their inspiration.

'In the glorious centuries of expansion, the jihad carried Islam from Arabia, to the west as far as the Atlantic; to thenorth as far as Vienna; to the south as far as the Sahara and down the east coast of Africa to Madagascar; and to the east across Persia and the Indian subcontinent into part of China and Indonesia....'

{Exactly what Sheik WahWah was referring to - dda].

"**What is going on today in the Muslim world is not the advent of some aberrant thing called Islamic fundamentalism but a revival of Islam itself - the real thing...** {my emphasis - dda}.

"All the great religions are the same" is the idea.

"Only they aren't.

"The Clintonian world view {O'Brien had just quoted a particularly fatuous statement, made in Jordan in the 1990s - dda} obscures the hard specificity of Islam.

"The Prophet Mohamed did not offer his followers a chance to live in harmony with their neighbours. He taught them to fight their neighbours, if they were unbelievers, and kill them or beat them into submission. And it is futile to say of those Muslims who faithfully follow those teachings today that their actions are "not intrinsically related to Islam".

"We are facing an Islamic revival...".

"How the West should cope with the Islamic revival is a complex matter.

"But one thing is clear: we can never get it right if we go on trying to believe that there is something called "Islamic fundamentalism" which is somehow not intrinsically related to Islam itself."

MP Steve Ciobo needs to refine his understanding of the problem; he is partway there, but he needs to come to the Awful Realization that there is only Islam, Islam, Islam; that Sheik Wahwah is preaching perfectly orthodox traditional bog-standard Islam and that far from being 'one or two crazies' those who are likely to heed and attempt to implement the Sheikh's programme will be those Muslims who take Islam to heart; who just want to practise Islam the way it's supposed to be practised.

That it is the 'moderate' Muslims who are - at best - simply slackers, and at worst sleepers, fifth columnists, 'slow jihadists', lying low and increasing their numbers, infiltrating and subverting our communities and institutions, always getting as close as they can to the levers of power, and waiting till the Ummah in Australia is much bigger and stronger and can make its move with more likelihood of success. A Fast Jihadist like Sheik Wahwah upsets their programme by shooting his mouth off and giving the game away - and alarming the Infidels while the Infidels are still so much more numerous and powerful than the Mohammedan advance bases that have been established in the past forty years.

Strangely enough, flowers HAVE had a role in "carrying the light of Islam to the world.
Remember "San Francisco"..."be sure to wear some flowers in your hair", and "Eat flowers and kiss babies, LSD" and such nonsense that we all used to hear in the sixties. Well, those crazy hippies have a lot to answer for, by contributing so mightily to the infantilisation of the West.

"Peace, man!"
(Even if it kills us...)

He's with Hizb ut Tahrir.

Paging all Australians here present.

Let's start campaigning to A/ get Hizb ut Tahrir BANNED in this country.

and B/ to get Sheikh Ismail Al-Wahwah stripped of his Aussie citizenship - how the *hell* did he manage to *get* Aussie citizenship in the first place, given his devotion to sharia, which flatly contradicts everything we are and everything we do? - and DEPORTED. ASAP.

Hizb ut Tahrir is not banned in Australia but many people think it should be. It seems that the Australian authorities are letting it exist out in the open so they can monitor it. It is banned in many muslim countries.

yes to Dumbledoresarmy and yes to MP S. Ciobe
kICK THE barstards out. Kick out these traitors who practice sedition. Come on pm Gillard you and your party should do what's right and not what's politically advantageous to the labor party, cause the Australian people are fed up.WE have had enough.We don't want your games and your hand outs and your bullshit. We want freedom and you should be constitutionally strengthening the ethic of the Australian diggers who have made this country great.Don't you dare turn your back on them or they will rise from their graves and stand with freedom lovers to overturn this tide of political correctness that plagues the land like a cancer.Those that want sharia obviously haven't read "the lord of the rings"
Mordor loses.Just as it is prophesized.

Robert, I don't believe (and that's just me) that by exposing the hypocrisy of CAIR will serve any good measurable purpose. They've already been exposed for that which they stand for...and most who are paying attention know....it's not good.

I would focus on their sharia law - even backing up their desires with actual writings from their koran. This is where the fight is. It is for them (cair). I would take them up on that fight (if I had a voice). I know that you have in the past. But I think you need to make in termes that a ten yr-old can understand - because when it comes to persons who have been put in positions of authority - a ten yr-old level is what we're dealing with. Besides that - such an argument leaves those who promote murder are left with no excuse.

I hope you're not offended with my thoughts. But I do believe we are in a real war (and not one that we instigated). That is what is need to be conveyed. We are in a real war...one that was declared upon us (those who do not bow to the islamic god).

I don't believe you'll get far with mocking. I do believe in Pamela's 'advertisements' (I call them warnings or better yet - a wake up call). But it's such a 'small wee voice' - more needs to be done.

Focus on their sharia law - which you have done in the past. Keep doing that. And, as usual, back up your claims with proof. That leads me to the leaders...as it should everyone. What exactly are they doing when it comes to the ever-so-important humanitarian leadership that they are so proud of? (or so they claim). This is where the fight needs to be taken. I think you have lost sight of that. Just my opinion.

With much hope,

Beth

Dumbledoresarmy , I think thats a excellent idea. I've always enjoyed your posts. Any time you want to get together, let me know. It would have been great if you could have made it to the lunch with Robert about a year ago; I still hope to meet you in person one day { the obvious security considerations not being ignored}.
I'm doing my own little bits and pieces but would very much like to work with other like minded individuals.
Best wishes,
Fightback

I would bet anyone, a dollar to a doughnut, that they can't produce one 'moderate' Mahoundian...
As far as Allah is concerned, you are either pious, or you are kuffar...There is no in between...

Sharia blasphemy laws heading my way in my state of NSW in Australia.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ofarrell-moves-to-strengthen-hate-laws-20130112-2cmh5.html

David

just in case you may pop back in to this thread, since you have remarked that there is a place for mockery in the counter-jihad, here are two simply sizzling examples by an Australian, one Tim Blair who blogs over at an Aussie tabloid, the Daily Telegraph (in Sydney; not to be confused with the 'Telegraph' in the UK).

Here he is simply skewering Sheikh Ismail al-Wahwah (and seizing upon the opportunity for a little interlinguistic punning).

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/mullabaloo-over-bit-of-great-hare/story-e6frezz0-1226553115648

Mullabaloo over bit of great hate
Staff Writer The Daily Telegraph January 13, 2013 9:18PM

And here he is, briefly taking the mickey and taking no prisoners, as he gets stuck into another Islam-related story that aired in late December, when we discovered that the grand mufti of many of Australia's Muslims had gone off to jihad fortress Gaza to schmooze with the genocidal Jew-hating Hamasniks.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/joy_in_the_land_of_jihad/

JOY IN THE LAND OF JIHAD

(Read the comments, David, most of them you will find highly enjoyable; Aussie humour at its most biting. I did like the poster who inquired, hopefully: "Does the IDF accept cheques for airstrikes?".)