#MyJihad in Chicago: Muslim gets 14 years for misunderstanding Islam, playing role in plots to "murder on a grand, horrific scale"

He was involved in a plot by a Pakistani jihad group to "decapitate Danish newspaper employees and toss their heads onto the streets of Copenhagen" because of cartoons of Muhammad. That same jihad group was also behind the Mumbai jihad attack, in which 160 people were murdered and a tiny Chabad house was the primary target: the pious jihadists there brutally and savagely tortured and murdered a rabbi and his family.

We're talking a serious misunderstander of the Religion of Peace and Tolerance. Yet how many programs are there in mosques and Islamic schools in the U.S. and Canada to teach Muslims not to fall for this widespread misunderstanding of Islam? Why, none. None at all.

An update on this story, which is where the quote can be found characterizing his plots that I used in my headline. "Canadian sentenced to 14 years for role in 2008 Mumbai attack," by Stewart Bell for the National Post, January 17 (thanks to Michael):

A Canadian businessman was sentenced to 14 years Thursday for his role in a plot by a Pakistani terrorist group to decapitate Danish newspaper employees and toss their heads onto the streets of Copenhagen.

A U.S. District court judge in Chicago imposed the prison term on Tahawwur Hussain Rana, 52. The conspiracy was retaliation for a cartoon in the Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten showing the Muslim prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban.

He was also convicted of providing material support to Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, the Pakistani terrorist group that attacked the Indian city Mumbai in 2008 killing 160 people, two of them Canadians.

A former Pakistani army officer who immigrated to Canada before moving to Illinois, Rana “provided critical support” to terrorists overseas,” said Lisa Monaco, the U.S. Assistant Attorney General for National Security....

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A former Pakistani army officer who immigrated to Canada before moving to Illinois,

They let most anyone in here now a days...
But of course we know he is not a savage and Islam has nothing to do with his behavior...

While he may have Canadian citizenship (which should now be stripped from his worthless carcass), please don't call this "former Pakistani army officer who immigrated to Canada before moving to Illinois" a Canadian. There is nothing remotely Canadian about him.

Is there a way to 'upgrade' this sentence to 'capital punishment'?

RS asks: "How many programs are there in mosques and Islamic schools in the U.S. and Canada teaching Muslims not to fall for this widespread misunderstanding of Islam? Why, none. None at all."

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And I ask: Yes, why ARE there no Islamic schools in the U.S. and Canada teaching Muslims not to fall for this widespread misunderstanding of Islam?

Hmmmm.....let me think now.....could it be that to face squarely the violent and inhumane commands contained in the so-called "perfect Qur'an" would prove that the Qur'an and the so-called "perfect religion" of Islam is not so perfect after all?

But the "perfect Qur'an" does indeed say that Islam is a perfect religion. The Quranic verse below was translated into English by 3 different devout Muslims who would rather die than make Islam look bad or misinterpret the Islamic holy book.

Hmmmm.....me thinks there might be something fishy going on with this Islam thing.....ya think?

We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that the absurd, über violent cult of Mohammedanism is a wholesale fraud.

Qur'an 005.003:

Yusuf Ali:
...This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Shakir:
... This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion; but whoever is compelled by hunger, not inclining willfully to sin, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Pickthall:
...This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you, and have chosen for you as religion al-Islam. Whoso is forced by hunger, not by will, to sin: (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Islam is no “religion of peace.” Islam is primarily a religion of “injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence.” The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur'an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur'an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.

Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."

There is this interesting information,which could make some Muslims leave Islam:

"The Koran,the Way it Expresses Itself,says the Torah of Jesus’ day was Alright,which Proves Islam to be False"

http://www.antisharia.com/2013/01/19/the-koranthe-way-it-expresses-itselfsays-the-torah-of-jesus-day-was-alrightwhich-proves-islam-to-be-false/

AND ALSO

"What to Say to Koran-Only Muslims:the Koran Verses they Can’t Say have a Different Meaning"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/10/24/what-to-say-to-koran-only-muslimsthe-koran-verses-they-cant-say-have-a-different-meaning/

"What to Say to Koran-Only Muslims:the Koran Verses they Can’t Say have a Different Meaning"

I have debated Quran only Mahoundians...They don't have many good arguments...They reject hadith all together and are evasive about sharia...They accept Allah's demanding and punitive nature in Quran, but hesitate to call those edicts sharia...On one hand they have to agree that Allah's words apply for all time...On the other hand, they argue that one ayat leads to another ayat that leads to a specific event,
so those orders no longer apply...But if that is the case, Allah's holy book degenerates into a history book...and not a very adequate one...Then they deny that as well...But if Allah's words do not apply for all time, a history book is what it is...

Capital punishment? are you a mohammedan or what? Capital punishments are reserved for old ladies who dare disagree with Islam!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/um-kerfa-oum-kerfa.html

BBC is worried on arrest...

plot by a Pakistani terrorist group to decapitate Danish newspaper employees and toss their heads onto the streets of Copenhagen

Islam...feel the love

#MyJihad in Chicago: Muslim gets 14 years for misunderstanding Islam, playing role in plots to "murder on a grand, horrific scale"
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This is what happens when Muslims "dream big". The horror of 9/11 is still the "gold standard" that every pious believer measures his efforts at waging violent Jihad against. *Ugh.*

More:

He was involved in a plot by a Pakistani jihad group to "decapitate Danish newspaper employees and toss their heads onto the streets of Copenhagen" because of cartoons of Muhammad.
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Restricting freedom of the press, Islamic style...

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That same jihad group was also behind the Mumbai jihad attack, in which 160 people were murdered and a tiny Chabad house was the primary target: the pious jihadists there brutally and savagely tortured and murdered a rabbi and his family.
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Violently targeting India isn't enough, now—they're "branching out"...

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A Canadian businessman was sentenced to 14 years Thursday for his role in a plot by a Pakistani terrorist group to decapitate Danish newspaper employees and toss their heads onto the streets of Copenhagen.
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A "Canadian businessman"? I share the disgust that many other posters have over this Pakistani Muslim, who had set up a beach head in the civilized West, being described as "Canadian".

This is grotesque—but all too common—where a Muslim who has bveen able to finagle citizenship from the foolish Kuffar is then treated as a full Canadian—or American, or Briton, or German, or Frenchman, or Swede—it's just ridiculous, and very, very false.

Most people who emigrate to Canada or the United States are looking to start a new life, free of the strictures of the "old country".

Not so many Muslims, who just see the country that has given them haven as awn easy place to raise Zakat and from which to wage violent Jihad—either against their own new countrymen, or against their neighbors, as he4re.

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A U.S. District court judge in Chicago imposed the prison term on Tahawwur Hussain Rana, 52. The conspiracy was retaliation for a cartoon in the Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten showing the Muslim prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban.
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And if it wasn't that, then it would be Lars Vilks' "MoDoggies", Qur'an burnings (real or imagined), "Submission, part 1", or the "Innocence of Muslims" film. Or the "Satanic Verses". There is *always* a Muslim "grievance de jure".

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He was also convicted of providing material support to Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, the Pakistani terrorist group that attacked the Indian city Mumbai in 2008 killing 160 people, two of them Canadians.
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"Two of them Canadians"—and then Canada, foolishly, invited the very people who had killed their nationals abroad to set up at home, and use that base to attack their neighbors.

Madness—but not uncommon madness, which makes it all the more insane. There is not a Western nation—including my own, the United States—which doesn't do this on a regular basis.

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A former Pakistani army officer who immigrated to Canada before moving to Illinois, Rana “provided critical support” to terrorists overseas,” said Lisa Monaco, the U.S. Assistant Attorney General for National Security....
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Yet more proof—as though we needed it, at this point—that Pakistan is enabling violent Jihad at every level. How much longer are we going to treat them as an "ally"?

Minoria wrote:

There is this interesting information,which could make some Muslims leave Islam:

"The Koran,the Way it Expresses Itself,says the Torah of Jesus’ day was Alright,which Proves Islam to be False"
................................

To be honest, Minoria, I'm not sure this will make much difference to truly pious Muslims—and, likely, none at all to Muslims who were not already questioning their vile creed.

They would either claim that the perfidious Jews had simply changed the Torah right after Jesus' (Isa's) time, or else that archeologists are lying about having found examples of the Torah from the first century CE.

Notice, while Muslims claim that Jews and Christians have changed their holy scriptures, they never actually say how, or point to *any* evidence for taking such a position. They just vaguely claim that the Torah and Bible used to agree with the Qur'an before they were "corrupted".

The only "evidence" for such a claim from the Muslim point of view is that if the texts hadn't been 'corrupted', that all Jews and Christians would immediately have embraced Islam when it was first "revealed" to Muhammed. There is considerable evidence that the "Prophet" expected them to do just that, and was enraged when so many Jews and Christians continued to remain true to their own faith.

More:

"What to Say to Koran-Only Muslims:the Koran Verses they Can’t Say have a Different Meaning"

http://www.antisharia.com/2012/10/24/what-to-say-to-koran-only-muslimsthe-koran-verses-they-cant-say-have-a-different-meaning/
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To be honest, I find "Qur'an only" Muslims nothing but a distraction. Firstly, all mainstream Muslims also embrace the Hadith and the Sira along with the Qur'an. Since the life and sayings of "the Messenger" is considered by almost all Muslims to be as important as the Qur'an itself, I doubt that this is likely to change.

In addition, though, while a few discrete horrors of Islam might become less common, such as stoning "adultresses" to death, little else would change.

The fact is that the Qur'an itself codifies the murder and oppression of Infidels and women.

Even if the entire Ummah became "Qur'an only", the world-wide Jihad would not even slow down, and the imposition of Shari'ah would be almost as oppressive and bloody.

As to convincing "Qur'an-only" Muslims of anything, I believe it is rather a fool's errand, since they are already so unorthodox that they are either practicing Taqiyya or lying to themselves.

They are either Muslims who genuinely want to present a less vicious face of their creed, but are too afraid to actually leave Islam—like Zuhdi Jasser—or else they are just trying to present a plausibly whitewashed vision of Islam to the "filthy Kuffar".

In either case, these are Muslims with a vested interest in claiming that the Quyr'an itself is not a barbaric text.

Please note, I am not intending to be overly critical of your ideas, Minoria—I always look forward to your erudite comments.

Calling Kinana of Khaybar! Are you out there?

Curious what you think about Douglas Saunders demographic claims. This is from an interview about his book The Myth of the Muslim Tide

SAUNDERS: The bottom line is that Muslims in Europe may peak somewhere close to 10 percent of the population - if you include Russia, which has a large Muslim population - by about the middle of the 21st century. And they're really not going to get much larger than that in population. And in fact it may be much lower than that.

And they'll peak at probably somewhere under 2 percent of the U.S. population, around the same size as Jews or Episcopalians. And at that point probably will stop growing because the one thing we have to understand. There's been a revolution in our scholarly and statistical understanding of population growth rates of immigrant groups; is that first of all, the countries they come from, the Muslim-majority countries of the world, are seeing the fastest-falling population growth rates and family sizes in the world right now.

I mean, Iran has gone from seven children per family in the '80s to 1.7 now. It's not exactly a place that - where they go shouting about condoms a lot. And this is true of many of the largest Muslim-majority countries. But also that the immigrants from those countries are having population growth rates and family sizes that are converging quickly within three generations with those of the host countries and so on, which is something that happens with other immigrants, as well.

I find many of Saunders' non-demographic conclusions to be dubious at best. But I'm not sure about his demographic conclusions and wonder if he's correct.

Here's a book excerpt:
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/08/29/book-excerpt-the-muslim-tide-that-wasnt/

my jihad is to get rid of jihadists.
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Kinana, if you see the above comment, you can ignore it. I just found your reply at Hesperado's site.

Seconding your remarks on the epithet 'Canadian' being misapplied to this Mohammedan Fifth Columnist/ forward scout of the Ummah.

I often amuse myself by mentally rewording portions of these sorts of articles.

It's a good way of clarifying things for oneself.

And a way of giving a bit of a hint to any journalists who may be lurking here (I am convinced that there are some who do).

Let's start with the original headline.

"Canadian sentenced to 14 years for role in 2008 Mumbai attack"

I quite like Mr Spencer's revised headline but here's an alternative - "Canadian-Passport-Holding Muslim had role in 2008 Mumbai jihad raid, gets 14 years jail".

First paragraph:

"A Canadian businessman was sentenced to 14 years Thursday for his role in a plot by a Pakistani terrorist group "

rewrite:

"A Pakistani-born-and-raised Muslim businessman with a Canadian passport was sentenced to 14 years Thursday for his role in a plot by a Pakistani Muslim jihad terror gang".


For all occurrences of 'Pakistani terrorist group' read 'Pakistani Muslim jihad terror gang'.

And

"A former Pakistani army officer who immigrated to Canada before moving to Illinois"

=

"A former army officer from Islamic Pakistan who immigrated to Canada before moving to Illinois..".


Once his sentence is served, the thing to do - though I doubt it will be done - would be to strip him of his Canadian citizenship.

And all Islamosavvy Canadian citizens should demand that this evil man, this soldier and spy of the marauding Mohammedan Mob, be sent off back to Pakistan on a one-way ticket - accompanied by all of his family - with instructions issued (along with the full suite of his identifying particulars, including dna sample) to all non-Muslim lands to never permit him to cross their borders.

And wouldn't it be nice if all the assets that he possesses in Canada and in the USA could be seized, liquidated, and put in a trust fund for the benefit of those - especially the poorest and humblest Mumbai residents - who were wounded or bereaved by the Mumbai Jihad raid in November 2008?

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