Australia offers asylum to 7,000 Hazara Shias from Pakistan

A warm-hearted humanitarian gesture. But what are the Australian authorities going to do to make sure that they aren't importing jihadis and Islamic supremacists among these persecuted Hazaras? Probably nothing. And once Muslim countries are completely homogeneous, with all the Shias and Christians and Jews and Bahais and all other religious minorities safely in non-Muslim countries, who will protect them from the Muslims there who may wish to carry on the jihad in their new countries? And what will the sanctuary nations of the West do as they offer asylum to jihad's victims and the jihadis, having driven out all the kuffar, focus their attention on those non-Muslim nations?

"2,500 Hazara families offered asylum," by Inamullah Khattak for Dawn, February 20:

ISLAMABAD: The Australian government has offered asylum to over 2,500 Hazara families of Balochistan and urged the United Nations refugee agency in Pakistan to facilitate migration of the community facing sectarian violence, Australian embassy sources said.

Jim O’Callaghan, assistant secretary of the humanitarian branch of the Department of Immigration and Citizenship Australia, had held a meeting with UNHCR officials last week and discussed the asylum offer with them, First Secretary Australian High Commission Sherief Andrawos told Dawn on Wednesday.

The UNHCR was informed that Australia was willing to accommodate 2,500 families or 7,000 individuals of the Hazara community, keeping in view attacks on them.

“Yes we have started work on facilitating members of Shia minority and other people prone to sectarian violence for giving them refuge in Australia. The Australian government wants our assistance in this regard,” Maya Ameratunga, deputy representative of United Nations High Commission for Refugees in Pakistan, confirmed to Dawn.

On Saturday, over 100 members of the Shia Hazara community were killed in a bomb attack in Quetta. The dead included 33 registered Afghan refugees, triggering condemnation from the UNHCR that asked authorities to protect the lives of refugees in this hour of sadness....

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This report was 'clarified' by the Aussie High Commissioner [envoy] 2 days back.

ISLAMABAD: Responding to reports of Australian government offering asylum to 2,500 Hazara families of Pakistan, the Australian High Commission in Islamabad on Thursday stated there were no new arrangements for any particular ethnicity or people from a particular part of any country.

It was reported earlier in the day that a representative of Australian immigration department met with United Nations officials to make the asylum offer.
“Australia is not introducing a new program to resettle Hazaras out of Pakistan,” the press release clarified.
According to the Australian High Commission, refugees – including Hazaras – wanting to be resettled in Australia must be recognised by UNHCR as meeting the criteria for refugee status.

The release added that there were no quotas for particular groups of people.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/510558/resettling-hazaras-no-special-arrangments-says-australian-hc/

I would let in only those who consent to being surgically rendered irreversibly infertile. No muslimitos. A sunset provision on their presence.

I could be wrong on this one, but, I have a feeling that Sunni Muslims are much more inclined to violence than their Shia counterparts.
I'm not talking about the Shia regimes.

"Australia offers asylum to 7,000 Hazara Shias from Pakistan"

Suicidal insanity. The result of this is that both Australia and Pakistan will become more Islamic; life will become more onerous and more dangerous.

I'll bet that 7000 is an estimate, not a count. 2500 families in this case may amount to about 13000 to 14000 people, based on Pakistan fertility rate of 3.42 (i.e., family size averaging 5.42 people, assuming monogamy...with instances of polygamy it will be higher).

What Australia (and other Western countries) should be doing is pressuring Islamic countries to fix their problems there in their own countries. Simply transfering people to Australia doesn't solve the problem; it simply changes it from one where Sunni Muslims are persecuting Shia, to one where Shia Muslims are persecuting non-Muslim Australians.

I don't see much difference in terms of violence. They both persecute each other, depending on who is in the majority position. Besides, both are for the most part murderously hostile toward non-Muslims, support terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda (Sunni) and HizbAllah (Shia), and want to impose sharia on non-Muslims. They both subscribe to the same basic ideology--death for apostates, death to blasphemers, hatred of non-Muslims, offensive jihad to conquer the non-Muslims, permission to rape non-Muslim women and girls, etc.

Australians are besotted with Hazara Muslims.

Poor average Austrialian. Probably he/she has no clue the government is inviting the enemy. Well we do the same here; look at rhe Somali Muslims all over the place in the USA.

Jihad comes with every Muslim you bring into the country. Just wait a few months , the same ungratefuk wrectes will satrt plotting against Australians - there is no doubt about that. Never ever trust a Muslim. Never let him in your country - it will be like the camel and the tent. The Islamic camel will take over your country if you let him in!!

The Western governments have gone insane - why would they let the jihadis in their country. Every Muslim is ajihadi and springs into action at an opportune time when the sudden jihad syndrome strikes him!! The definition of insanity - doing the same thing again and again in hopes of this time it is different. It is never different with Muslims - be he a sunni, shia, ahmadi, sufi or hazara or Baluchi -they are all same!!!

**Why** can we not make arrangements to take in - fast-tracked, top priority for humanitarian reasons - 2500 Coptic Christian families, from Egypt? Or 2500 Armenian and/ or Assyrian Christian families, from Syria?

*They* are in imminent danger of being subjected to wholesale jihad genocide. They have coreligionists already in Australia who could help with their processing and assimilation *and*, most importantly, would be able to help our authorities distinguish between bona fide Coptic, Armenian and Assyrian Christians applying for religious and political asylum, and lying, sinister Muslims pretending to be what they weren't.

As for quotas for particular groups: it's high time that the UNHCR put Copts and other persecuted non-Muslim minorities from majority Muslim lands, **right at the top of the list** of those eligible for refugee status.

It makes me furious, that so many, many Muslims are posing as refugees and being wafted into the West en masse, whilst non-Muslim communities, viciously persecuted by Muslims, are being prevented from escaping from the hell-pits of dar al Islam, or are only being let in to the free world in dribs and drabs.

Kinana is right. And before anybody points out that not all of the world's Shia are like Lebanese Hizbullah Shias, it's worth pointing out that in Afghanistan itself - the origin of the Hazaras, their main party/militia - Hizb e Wahdat - was and is in Afghanistan what Hizbullah is in Lebanon (as Hugh Fitzgerald once pointed out, it's all alphabet soup when it comes to picking names for Jihadi groups). Essentially, while the Taliban and Heqmatyar championed the Pashtuns and Masood's party the Tajiks, this party championed the Hazaras, and was the closest to Teheran in terms of allegiance.

So despite the violence in Balochistan against them, there is no reason for Hazaras to move further. Heck, why don't they move next door to Iran - maybe Teheran could use them to dilute Baloch separatists in their province of Balochistan (both Iran and Pakistan contain parts of Balochistan, each of which is a separate province in their respective countries).

Or, let them move into other mainstream Paki provinces, like Sind or Panjab. After all, we had our former Muslim apologist Horse tell us that Pakistan's president Zardari is a Shia. Since that's the case, Shias should feel perfectly at home in Pakistan.


Shia Sunni what's the difference at the end of the day both believe in Jihad in the conquest and subjugation of non Muslims under Islamic rule. Both believe that they by mere chance of being Muslims are better than all other people and both will never appreciate or be grateful for the help which they receive from the gullible Kuffr. I honestly cannot understand why such people would be allowed into this country when there are so many other better quality people that we can take into this country. Although I don't know about taking Coptic or Assyrian Christians it's better simply not to take anyone from that part of the world save anyone from Israel who might wish to migrate here.

What's wrong with the idea of taking in Copts and Assyrians?

They're Christians; they will assimilate into Australian society, as those who've already managed to find their way here, are doing. We've got Armenians and Maronite Christians who've been here since the late 19th century or early 20th century and have been no particular problem at all.

We just need to make it absolutely plain that any Muslim found to have gotten in here under false pretences, by *pretending* to be a Copt or an Assyrian, will be booted right back to dar al Islam, the moment the imposture is detected.

The Copts in Australia, and in the USA, are losing their dhimmi conditioning; they're starting to speak up. I think they would be perfectly capable of 'vetting' those applying to come, and 'weeding out' the fakes; after all, they don't want the Muslim jackals, who have caused them so much suffering in their original homelands, to follow them here.

Right now, in Australia, we have about 500 000-600 000 Muslims. Just imagine: if we turfed them all out - Return To Sender - and replaced them with an equivalent number of Copts and Assyrians, does anyone suppose that we'd have Copts and Assyrians rioting and calling for people to be beheaded, or shooting each other, or taking over the bikie gangs and the illegal-drug importation/ production-and-distribution 'business', or chopping off each other's heads, or gang raping Aussie girls, or performing FGM and practising polygyny behind closed doors? Nope.

I very much doubt that ASIO worries that mass-murder plots might be a-hatching amongst the monks in the lovely new Coptic monastery in Melbourne.

What could possibly go wrong with such a wonderful humanitarian gesture? (I lost count of the ways...)

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I think there are plans in the pipelines to resettle all of the Maldevians.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/nov/10/maldives-climate-change

Now that is the small problem, what about Bangladesh

Hazaras are being ethnically cleansed by other Muslim groups and are subjected to persecution every bit as bad as that on Christians. They are deserving of asylum but Australia should also consider giving Christians from Syria, Lebanon and Egypt a home. It is too late to help Christians in Iraq who have been almost totally cleansed.

What about instead giving space to 7000 Pakistani Christians who are being persecuted? Their situation is far more dire.

The Australian people are onto the Gillard Labor government for this very type of thing, the polls say Gillard will lose in a big way in the September election. Whether the Abbott Liberal government will be any different is another matter, all western politicians now seem to be puppets of the Islamic controlled UN. The UN says "bring in 10,000 Muslims", the western politicians say "yes sir!".

When I don't encounter Australians who are PC MC (and there are many), I encounter Australians who claim that Australia is not PC MC (I believe a lol is in order at this juncture of my comment). The latter type of Australian reflects what, elsewhere, I have called the "Problem of the Problem of the Problem" (or the tertiary problem): the first problem being Muslims; the second being Western politically correct multi-culturalists (the vast majority of Ordinary People throughout the West leaving not a single polity unblemished, along with their "Elites") -- and the third being a bundle of curious notions held by many in the Counter-Jihad, of which this misplaced pride about Australia is just one.

Infidel,

I'm really impressed by your ethnological and ethnographic knowledge (perhaps with a specialty in central and SE Asia?). Your comment here isn't the first time I've been impressed by it; many times before you note things that I never see anywhere else, but which are very important. I wish you would write a blog that focuses on these kinds of details, including the relevant history.


I suppose these people can be helpful to society any how I dream that your proposal of returning the Muslims here back to Dar al Islam comes to fruition one day we should save them from the dire oppression which they feel in this country and return them to the ''light'' of Islam.

Australia offers asylum to 7,000 Hazara Shias from Pakistan
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Yes, the Hazara are persecuted in Pakistan, just as they were under the Taliban in Afghanistan. This is standard Muslim on other-sect Muslim oppression and bloodshed.

But there is nothing intrinsically less dangerous about Shi'ites in general or Hazaras in particular as far as Infidels are concerned.

And when Hazaras had an opportunity to have input on the Afghan constitution, what was their only demand? Some sort of guarantee of religious freedom? Of equality? Of course not.

They demanded—and *got*—assurance that raping one's wife would not be considered a crime in Afghanistan. That was their big cause—*marital rape*.

"Islamic cleric defends law sanctioning marital rape"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/04/islamic-cleric-defends-law-sanctioning-marital-rape.html

How is *that* going to work out in civilized Australia?

More:

A warm-hearted humanitarian gesture. But what are the Australian authorities going to do to make sure that they aren't importing jihadis and Islamic supremacists among these persecuted Hazaras? Probably nothing.
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One problem is the naïve conviction held tacitly by many Westerners that if an individual or group is oppressed by Jihadists, that that means that they themselves are philosophically opposed to Jihad.

Of course, there has been ample evidence that this is not true, and that Muslims who have entered the West as "refugees" from Jihad-torn lands are quite apt to emerge as Jihadists themselves—often, in fact, now targeting the well-meaning Infidels who have given them sanctuary.

Just look at Somalis in the United States, who were welcomed with open arms by charitable Americans, who are now increasingly finding themselves on the receiving end of Somali Muslim Jihad plots.

There are, of course, many more examples, all over the civilized world.

All anyone has to do (if they are wondering what these "refugees" are apt to do once they are in Australia) is to take a good look at Jordan, once they allowed "Palestinian refugees" into their country en-masse. The citizens of Australia should certainly have something to say about this.

Oh, sorry, WE never had anything to say about the millions of people that were welcomed to this country by our "fearless" - and traitorous - leaders.

I guess it is too much to ask for the citizen-subjects of what were once the greatest countries in the (formerly) free world to have some say about who gets to invade their homeland. Sad indeed.

Hi DA,
I'm with you on this one. It is frustrating, maddening, even halucinatory to think that the representatives of any Western govt. could be so bloody naive as to welcome, feed, house and even television known enemies of the state. Still, there is the bright side (or the Spanish Inquisition) when you know that the mighty janjaweed of Sudan turned tail and ran when the southern Sudanese Christians began shooting back. Suddenly, rape, pillage and plunder carried more than a small risk and many brave Muslim warriors lost heart (or what passes for one in a jihadi's body)and bravely ran away.
Let alone the even mightier Iraqi army, which held Iran at bay for a decade, only to turn tail and run like scared rabbits rather than face the US military. As the advertisement goes...
For sale: 100,000 AK47's, never fired, dropped once.
Bless you.

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