Miami imam testifies that he lied about supporting the Taliban just to get money

This imam sounds like so many other Islamic supremacists do when they're cornered: accuse the non-Muslim who is questioning them of being insane (as Hussein Ibish did to me when I asked him how he could be sure that the Palestinian state he advocates would not be used as a base to launch new jihad attacks on Israel), lie outright in flagrant contradiction to their earlier statements (as innumerable jihadis have done when asked about their recorded pro-jihad statements), and refuse to answer direct questions, instead launching into rambling off-the-point tirades (as Mubin Shaikh did in debate with me last night, as have numerous other Islamic supremacists I've debated).

Anyway, now Hafiz Khan has now admitted that he is a dedicated and habitual liar. How can we tell that he isn't lying now?

"Miami imam testifies that he lied when he professed support for the Taliban," by Jay Weaver for the Miami Herald, February 20 (thanks to Darcy):

In testimony that was at turns deadly serious and comical, a Miami imam accused of aiding terrorists testified Wednesday that he lied about his ostensible support for the Pakistani Taliban because he wanted to obtain $1 million from a purported Taliban sympathizer — who was actually an FBI informant.

Hafiz Khan, 77, the one-time leader of a Miami mosque, said he repeatedly deceived the informant, known as Mahmood Siddiqui, because Siddiqui had promised him the money to help poor victims of war between the Taliban and Pakistan army in the Swat Valley near the Afghanistan border.

Khan, accused of sending money to the U.S.-designated terrorist organization, was unaware that his conversations — in which he wished Americans would die in pursuit of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden — were recorded by the FBI.

“What I said was all lies,” Khan testified in Pashto through an interpreter. “It was just because of the money.”

Khan, on trial in federal court since early January, spent a second day on the witness stand in his own defense on charges of supplying at least $50,000 from 2008-2010 to the Taliban, sworn enemies of the U.S. and Pakistan governments. Khan, charged with four counts of providing material support to a terrorist organization, has maintained that the money he sent from Miami to Pakistan was for his family members, the poor and a religious school, or madrassa, in the Swat Valley — not to arm the Taliban.

“They are totally our enemies,” Khan testified about the Taliban, despite his ardent statements of support in the FBI-recorded phone conversations.

Khan, a naturalized U.S. citizen who came to this country in 1994, sparred during cross-examination with Assistant U.S. Attorney John Shipley, who grew frustrated as the frail yet feisty imam dodged his questions about his true beliefs about terrorism.

At one point, Khan said: “I kindly suggest to you that you go to a hospital. You have a mental problem.” He added that the cross-examination was a waste of time.

“I’ll let the jury make that determination, Mr. Khan,” the prosecutor said.

The 12 jurors tried to stifle their laughter, at which point U.S. District Judge Robert Scola excused them to take a break.

Scola then advised the defendant to bring his testimony down a notch. “You are never going to convince Mr. Shipley to change his mind about you,” the judge told him. “The only chance you have is to convince the jury to believe you.”

Shipley peppered the defendant with questions about his recorded conversations with the FBI informant, in which he praised the attempted 2010 bombing in New York’s Times Square.

There are many times I am agreeing with him, but that does not mean that I mean it,” Khan testified.

Shipley, however, pointed out that Khan made similar comments in other telephone conversations with friends and relatives that also were intercepted by the FBI. The prosecutor repeatedly tried to compel the defendant to admit that he believes it is justifiable to kill Pakistani police and government officials because they have supposedly committed killings and atrocities themselves.

“What you are suggesting is exactly what the Taliban and al-Qaida have suggested for years. And we heard it in this courtroom,” Shipley said.

Khan admitted he made those statements in the recorded conversations, including saying to the FBI informant: “May God give the government to the Taliban.” Khan said he was expressing moral outrage over the Pakistan Army’s killing of women and children in the Swat Valley during its war with the Taliban.

At the same time, he seemed to suggest he endorsed an eye-for-an-eye philosophy.

“I did say this, yes. Now I will explain,” he told Shipley. “They killed people by cannon. They were innocent people killed in their homes. ... The entire public said they committed atrocities.”

Khan frequently attacked Shipley’s questions, calling them repetitive and refusing to answer them. The witness also gave rambling speeches that evaded the prosecutor’s questions, especially toward the end of the day when he spoke nonstop for almost 15 minutes....

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The problem with telling a lie is that once I know that you lied, I will ALWAYS wonder if this is the time you telling me the truth or if this is just another lie.

That's the gravamen of having lied in the past, whether you admit to having lied or you've been proven to have been a liar. In either case your credibility to tell the truth has been impeached.

"Now which story do you want the jury to believe, the story you told 3 months ago or the story you're telling today?"

Muslims are habitual liars, no ifs and buts! One can never trust them even when they say they lied earlier. They lie so much that they even don't know themselves whether they are lying or telling the truth, well they never tell the truth anyway.

Great, now we can post in an instant without waiting for that circle to stop circling!!

The upshot to frequent Muslim use of TAQIYYA is to ask them 'How do I know you are NOT using TAQIYYA in talking to me now?' We obviously can't tell, and it would be foolish of us in that evident to trust one word of what the Muslim says. Muslims who use TAQIYYA declare to us that they are at war with us and will do anything to defeat us.

Furthermore, the accusation of INSANITY to anyone who questions Islam is as old as Mohammed. He frequently used the INSANITY accusation, wording it in the paraphrastic manner of the day: 'those in whose heart is a disease'. The Arabs believed thinking occured in 'the heart'.

Today they use the newly-invented mental illness 'Islamophobia' to disguise their attempt to censor blasphemy against semi-divine Mohammed.

I wonder what secrets this imam knows that could help the government fight terrorists...if only he were a patriotic American, but we already know he is a TRAITOR who should be deprived of his American status and exiled after serving time.

Another slippery muslim--who should never have been allowed in this country--who will look you in the eye and say, "But I was lying then! Honest!"

To tell you the truth, I was lying!

Clown!

The problem of lying to others in Islam is that it is sanctioned by Mohammed! (lying to your enemies to advance muslim interests is considered a "righteous" duty)

He is lying in order to prolong the trial and thereby his stay in the US. He sure as hell knows he wont survive a day in his 'pure land' ie Pakistan.

The judge should call his bluff and send him back to his Islamic Paradise[ which is same as the real Paradise]

They clearly have no compunction about lying to each other, either.

These people have no morals or ethics whatsoever.

Rope. Give. Hang.

I am quite, quite sure that the attorney *and* the Judge - both of whom would have a long, long experience of BS-artists of all kinds, during their careers in the law - can see what this malevolent creature is up to. Because in the end, though Muslims have lying and nonsense and BS down to a fine art, non-Muslim crooks and shysters deploy many of the same tactics, though (unlike the Muslims) they don't have societal/ cultic sanction to do so.

And the entire court full of non-Muslims - especially the jury, who have to listen and pay attention and take notes - are getting an earful and an eyeful of typical slithery and nasty Mohammedan posturing and nonsense, too.

The more he drags it out (which is, in and of itself, annoying people no end, I'll bet, the jury do not want to be sitting there for hours and hours listening to nonsense and lies) and waffles and slithers and contradicts himself, the more he shapeshifts like an octopus trying to get out of a tight spot, the more pzzed off the judge - and the jury - are going to be.

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