Robert Spencer: Israel and the Ever-Elusive Muslim Unity

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In FrontPage today I discuss how Ahmadinejad’s visit to Egypt shows again why the Muslim world will never be united — except in hatred of Israel.

the first visit to Egypt by a President of Iran since the founding of the Islamic Republic of Iran in 1979. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived in Egypt Tuesday to an enthusiastic welcome from Egypt’s President Mohammed Morsi and top Egyptian officials. Yet underneath the kisses and expressions of mutual regard, the visit revealed yet again how deep the divisions are in the Islamic world – and why Sunnis and Shi’ites may only be able to unite on the basis of their mutual hatred of Israel.

Then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said of the Islamic world in January 2007:

“There’s still a tendency to see these things in Sunni-Shia terms. But the Middle East is going to have to overcome that.” Rice’s statement, of course, was staggeringly naïve, and manifested a deep ignorance of the region, as well as of Islam. No one should be surprised that six years later, Sunnis and Shias still haven’t “overcome” their tendency to “see these things in Sunni-Shia terms,” and chances are that in six hundred more years, they still will not have done so, for the Sunni-Shi’ite divide goes back to the earliest days of Islam, and yet in fourteen hundred years has not burnt itself out, but still rages today as fiercely as ever.

And so it was that as Sunnis and Shias war against each other in Iraq and Pakistan, the Shi’ite President of Iran touched down in Sunni Cairo and was almost immediately scolded by Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar University, the foremost institution in Sunni Islam, for Iran’s meddling in Bahrain. Almost seventy percent of Bahrainis are Shias, but the king and the ruling elites are Sunnis, and in Bahrain’s version of the “Arab Spring,” the “pro-democracy” protesters were Shias who wanted either closer ties with Iran or for Bahrain to be annexed outright by the Islamic Republic, in line with Iran’s claim that it is actually an Iranian province.

But al-Tayeb told Ahmadinejad to back off, and to recognize that Bahrain was a “sisterly Arab nation” – i.e., within the Sunni Arab, not the Shi’ite Persian domain. And according to a senior al-Azhar cleric, Hassan al-Shafai, al-Tayeb and Ahmadinejad quickly began squabbling about Sunni-Shi’ite theological disagreements. His assessment of the meeting was far from positive: “There ensued some misunderstandings on certain issues that could have an effect on the cultural, political and social climate of both countries. The issues were such that the grand sheikh saw that the meeting … did not serve the desired purpose.”

However much he got mired in theological issues with al-Tayeb, however, Ahmadinejad still had another hope for Islamic unity: mutual hatred of Israel. “The political geography of the region will change,” he asserted, “if Iran and Egypt take a unified position on the Palestinian question.” He expressed the hope that the people of Gaza would allow him to pay them a visit: “If they allow it, I would go to Gaza to visit the people.”

Why wouldn’t they? Iran already crosses the Sunni-Shi’ite divide to fund Hamas; billboards in Gaza proclaim: “Thanks and gratitude to Iran.” The Sunni-Shia split, according to Islamic tradition, goes all the way back to the death of Muhammad. According to the Sunnis, he left no instructions as to who should succeed him. According to the Shia, he chose his son-in-law, Ali ibn Abi Talib, who was then passed over three times as caliph, leader of the Muslim community, until finally he got the job, only to be assassinated five years later. When Ali’s son Hussein was killed at the battle of Karbala in 680, the Sunni-Shi’ite split became definitive, with both sides considering the other heretics and violence remaining a constant of their interaction.

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"... except in hatred of Israel."

Heil Hitler, Heil Muhammad … 'Just Issue orders TO KILL every Jew in the country.' Bukhari Book 1, Number 6

http://schnellmann.org/heinrich-himmler.html

Four people were arrested...One of them threw a shoe...It missed its mark, or it would have been known as, 'the shoe that was heard around the world'...Sunni/Shia, 'Still crazy after all these years'...

"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived in Egypt Tuesday to an enthusiastic welcome from Egypt’s President Mohammed Morsi and top Egyptian officials."

Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood are clearly thinking that they can use Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Islamic regime of Iran to help them wipe Israel and the Jewish people off the map in their bid to installing a new caliphate.

Then of course the Sunni will attempt to wipe the Shia and all those who are not Islamic enough off the map. More slaughter on the road to the horrors of Sharia and total submission to Islam.

We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that the cruel, über violent cult of Mohammedanism is a despicable fraud.

Islam is no "religion of peace." Islam is primarily a religion of "injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence." The fact is, if we non-Muslms were to say about Muslims what the Qur'an says about us we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur'an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.

Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."

@ SaleemSmith

"... We ex-Muslims living with Islam's formal and informal death penalty for apostasy (Q. 4:88-89)"

4.88-9 (Hilali-Khan) … Comment: AliSina.org This verse is a command to slay apostates. “emigrate in the way of Allah” (Arabic: “yuhajiroo fee sabili Allahi”, transliterated: “make Hijra in the way of Allah”) means; interpreting “hijra” in its spiritual sense, to “become Muslim” and thus people who “turn back” are turning back or away from Islam - i.e. becoming apostate....

... form: http://schnellmann.org/undercover-mosque.html

Yes, and moreover, what I find most odd about Islam's many non-Muslim supporters is that they seem incapable of making the leap of logic to grasp the fact that when non-Muslims support and/or defend Islam, they are supporting and/or defending the following:

* Slavery:

Qur'an 16:71
And Allah hath favored some of you above others in provision. Now those who are more favored will by no means hand over their provision to those (slaves) whom their right hands possess, so that they may be equal with them in respect thereof. Is it then the grace of Allah that they deny?

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Slavery#Islam_Permits_Slavery

* Sex Slavery:

Hadith, Sahih Bukhari Vol.7, Bk.62, No.137:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection."

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Concerns_with_Islam:_Sexual_Slavery_in_Islam

* The death for penalty for the apostates of Islam:

In Islam, the rejection in part (of any of the pillars, or individual principles of Islam), or discarding the faith as a whole, amounts to apostasy. It is not a quick or easy affair for an apostate or heterodox believer of Islam, as the punishment for apostasy in the Islamic faith is death. Though it may be argued that this is not clear through the Qur'an alone, scholars have found justification for the penalty from within its pages, and there are also numerous Sahih (authentic) hadiths confirming this punishment as attested by Prophet Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57 we see it as “Allah's Apostle said, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him'”, and it was also one of only three reasons given by him where killing a Muslim is permitted.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy

* Child molestation:

Qur'an, 065.004
And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Sahih Bukhari, Vol.7, Bk.62, No.88:

Narrated Ursa:
The prophet wrote the [marriage contract] with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e.’ til his death).

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

* 100 Lashes for unmarried adulterers: Qur'an 24:2

* Stoning for married adulterers:

Sahih Bukhari, Vol.8, Bk.82, Number 826:

Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid:
Two men had a dispute in the presence of Allah's Apostle. One of them said, "Judge us according to Allah's Laws." The other who was more wise said, "Yes, Allah's Apostle, judge us according to Allah's Laws and allow me to speak (first)" The Prophet said to him, 'Speak " He said, "My son was a laborer for this man, and he committed illegal sexual intercourse with his wife, and the people told me that my son should be stoned to death, but I have given one-hundred sheep and a slave girl as a ransom (expiation) for my son's sin. Then I asked the religious learned people (about It), and they told me that my son should he flogged one-hundred stripes and should be exiled for one year, and only the wife of this man should be stoned to death " Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, I will judge you according to Allah's Laws: O man, as for your sheep and slave girl, they are to be returned to you." Then the Prophet had the man's son flogged one hundred stripes and exiled for one year, and ordered Unais Al-Aslami to go to the wife of the other man, and if she confessed, stone her to death. She confessed and was stoned to death.

Thank you for verifying The glide path to kuffar ruin...If you support Islam, you support Allah's word, and his laws...sharia...If you support sharia, you will get everything you have coming to you...Karma is a btch...Allah willing and he always is...

Yes, and let's not overlook the fact that Obama and Mohammed Morsi and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Allah are all the best of friends working in the service of the malevolent cult of Islamism.

Is this a some lost, cutting room floor, nightmarish episode of the Twilight Zone we are watching unfold on the world stage or what?

Just as few know how bad cigarette smoke smells more than ex-smokers, so is it the case that few know how awful Islam really is more than ex-Muslims, like yourself Saleem. Hope you're doing well and glad to see you posting here at JW regularly.

Was Rice lamenting that divide? Thank goodness for the Sunni-Shia divide, only wish there were many more such major divisions. Such a stupid religion. Still amazed any educated person could be a true believer in such an obvious 7th century hoax.

Yep, Islam reeks like something awful alright. I'm doing well and hope you're well as well and good to see and hear from you as well, Wells.

Any Muslim alliance is little more than a temporary friendship and therefore an easily broken one.
The best analogy of this is a Hitler-Stalin alliance except that both sides (Sunni and Shia) are secretly playing the role of Hitler, ever ready to stab their ally in the back as soon as it suits them.
They can gain some victories whilst united but in the long term they will never win the war for their perpetual suspicion of each other will cause their fragile illusion of friendship to eventually fall apart!

Twilight Zone is about right...Rod Serling couldn't have written better fiction than what is happening now for real...

Very clever, Saleem. My compliments.

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