Afghan clerics warn that Americans will be treated as invaders unless Obama heeds Karzai's demands

Should have bombed from the air and never put any boots on the ground in this pesthole.

Or Iraq.

Let the Sharia-loving loons fend for themselves.

Until the people are so tormented by Islam that they revolt against its inherent Koranic madness there is no hope for them.

They can stew in their psychopathia on their own.

No one from the West need join them.

How can anyone have anything but contempt for the arrogant Hamid Khuzarai?
Think about the absurdity of a situation where a force of mainly Christian troops risk their lives for a regime that severely punishes anyone who converts to Christianity.
Here's what I would do: Maintain our troops at our military installations, but liberate Afghanistan by installing a secular government, then restore the Bamiyan Buddhas destroyed by the savages and invite Chinese immigrants in to reestablish the Buddhist culture wiped out by the Islamic invaders.

"Allah" demands supremacism and nothing less.

Are Muslims suitable immigrants to free countries when their leaders say they can never be led by a kafir?

That line from the ulema in Afghanistan needs to be copied and filed away, and kept for future reference.

"Allah has never allowed Muslims to accept the sovereignty and rule of the infidels".

And that isn't just the case in Afghanistan.

It applies, at bottom, to all Muslims everywhere.

Muslims, the Ummah, regard themselves as entitled to **rule the world**.

They therefore furiously resent the sovereignty and independence of such non-Muslims as are *not* subject to a Muslim despot and/ or the Muslim Mob.

This applies whether the Muslims live in a Muslim country that happens to be next door to a non-Muslim country, or whether they comprise a minority within a country where the majority is not Muslim and the law of the land is not Islamic and non-Muslims naturally enough comprise the majority of those in authority.

This is why Muslim minorities in *any* non-Muslim polity *always* end up as a massive pain in the azz for their non-Muslim neighbours and for the Authorities; why, the moment they feel strong enough vis a vis the surrounding non-Muslims, they *will* begin to attack them, in smaller and in larger ways. It is the fundamental reason why there is Jihad in southern Thailand and in the southern Philippines and in Kashmir, and why the Rohingya and the Uighur and the Chechens would still be stirring up sh*t even if the Burmese and the Chinese and the Russians had always been as decently restrained and respectful of human rights as, say, the Israelis have been toward *their* Muslim Fifth Column.

It doesn't matter how well or badly any Infidel polity happens to treat the Muslims in its midst; the only thing that matters in the end, the thing that causes the most pious and orthodox of the Muslims to seethe with resentful fury, and fuels their attempts to subvert and to overthrow and their ceaseless campaigns to Islamise any place that they are in, is the bare fact that they (the Muslims) are not the Top Dogs and the laws are non-Muslim laws.

This statement by the Ulema in Afghanistan needs to be placed side by side with that other tell-tale statement that was discussed here not long ago:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/03/hamas-linked-cair-texas-leader-if-we-are-practicing-muslims-we-are-above-the-law-of-the-land.html

Hamas-linked CAIR Texas leader: "If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land".

Time to revisit a classic - Bangladeshi ex-Muslim Abul Kasem's essay on the subject, 'When Is Islam Oppressed?".

WHEN IS ISLAM OPPRESSED? – ABUL KASEM
http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/IslamOppressed.htm

When is Islam Oppressed?
by Abul Kasem
20 Nov, 2005

Abul opens his essay by quoting an Islamic 'cleric':

"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate. The only one law which needs to be spread, it can be here or anywhere else has to be Islam."

[ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) interview with Abdul Nacer Benbrika (Abu Bekr), the spiritual leader of the Victorian terror cell suspect). The daily Telegraph, Sydney, November 10, 2005, p.31]

And then he proceeds to 'unpack' what 'oppression' really means in Islamspeak.

He explains, "Islam is grossly offended/oppressed by any un-Islamic moves of the infidels/not-so-good Muslims..".

A bit later on, he explains:

"And when all efforts to pursue the Kafirs to convert to Islam have failed, or when the unbelievers resort to rejecting Islam openly, Islam stipulates that they be crucified or maimed. Read this terrible verse from Allah:
'Punishment for waging war against Allah (i.e. the unbelievers who reject Islam) and His messenger is execution (beheading) or crucifixion or cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land...5:33'

"One might still insist that the above verse is applicable only in war situations, when Islam and its founder, Muhammad (or Muslims) are/were attacked in a physical fight.

"Perish this thought, if you want to learn about 'real Islam'.

"The words, 'waging war', in the above verse has very little to do with real combat (like Iraq, Afghanistan).

"Any action, activity, remark, gesture, word/s, sound, utterance, look, manner, habit, conduct, style and so on, which are not in conformity with Islamic precepts are considered as blasphemous or 'waging war'...".

This story is an outstanding example to illustrate the truths following in these 2 herein:

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/01/three-fundamental-mistakes-in-dealing.html

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/10/national-survival-for-america-and_4531.html

Outstanding analyses, fully consistant with what we learn here and reading elsewhere.

These well written articles should be required reading for all Congressmen who are not muslim, and all American, and Western military commanders. Muslims excused.

Won't do any good for the imposter in the White House, he knows 'em.

Who dose that fool of a man Karzai think he is? If it wasn't for our boys and girls defending his corrupt semi Sharia regime he would've been overrun long ago by the propagators of 100% sharia it's about time we leave Afghanistan to the Sharia lovers take all her intellectuals who have renounced Islam to the West and let these savages celebrate living under Sharia let their Allah provide them with medicine,food,clothing and Shelter and let's spend the money on improving life here in the West for our people instead.

Americans will be treated as invaders?
Seems to me they've been treated that way by the Afghanis from day one.

Puffed up sod should remember who installed him as president.

Is anyone, from Obama and his minions to George Bush and his, aware or willing to acknowledge the reality here? This "big surprise" assertion by Karzai is exactly what "greasy Islamophobes" have been warning about for years. Ten years of war, thousands of American lives lost and hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars wasted on what will go down in history as one of America's most ignominious defeats. Al Qaeda engaged. Al Qaeda "defeated." The war lost because the obvious enemy is masked by western, self imposed delusion.

Could somebody possibly tell me, exactly when muslms (except for the occasional individual or family who usually ends up converting out of the death cult), in small or large numbers, in a small village or a large country, have EVER had the common human decency to THANK other peoples for their courage, generosity and decency towards muslims, and pay them back in kind??

Anyone? gravenimage, DDA, champs, wellington, trolls, beuller, beuller, beuller?

What else would you expect from a hate cult that thinks it owns the world and all who occupy it?