Interfaith Outreach in Egypt: Muslims throw firebombs at police, try to storm church in search of woman suspected of converting to Christianity

Muhammad said: "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him" (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Yet Muslim spokesmen such as Harris Zafar, Mustafa Akyol, Salam al-Marayati, M. Cherif Bassiouni, and Ali Eteraz (among many others) have assured us that Islam doesn't punish apostasy. I am confident that Zafar, Akyol, al-Marayati, Bassiouni, and Eteraz are making their way to Luxor as we speak, so as to explain to these enraged Muslim mobs that they are getting Islam all wrong, wrong, wrong.

"Christian-Muslim tension flares in southern Egypt," by Haggag Salama for the Associated Press, March 1 (thanks to all who sent this in):

LUXOR, Egypt (AP) — Dozens of Muslim residents threw firebombs and rocks at police on Friday as they tried to storm a church in southern Egypt in search of a woman suspected of converting to Christianity, security officials said.

Clashes between Copts and Muslims usually are sparked by disputes over rumors of conversion, Muslim-Christian love affairs and the construction of churches. Violence between Egypt's Christians and Muslims has risen in the past two years in the wake of the country's uprising that ousted longtime President Hosni Mubarak, but also weakened security across the nation.

"Clashes between Copts and Muslims usually are sparked by disputes over rumors of conversion, Muslim-Christian love affairs and the construction of churches." That is, Muslims riot over those things, because Islamic law forbids Muslims to convert to Christianity, forbids Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men, and forbids Christians to construct new churches. That AP characterizes these things as sources of "clashes," as if both sides were equally to blame, is despicable, albeit common "journalistic" practice.

Officials said 11 policemen were wounded in the clashes in the town of Kom Ombo, which is near Aswan High Dam, about 980 kilometers (608 miles) south of Cairo. Coptic Christian activist Ibrahim Louis said 12 Christians also were wounded, including one man who was in serious condition.

The fighting erupted late Thursday night when hundreds of Muslim residents tried to get inside the church. Police used tear gas to keep the crowd from storming the church as some of the residents burnt tires along a major highway and cut off traffic. The clashes erupted again Friday afternoon when dozens of residents again threw firebombs and rocks at police. In anticipation of renewed clashes, police had set up checkpoints and increased their presence around the church.

Tensions rose after a 36 year-old Muslim woman, who has been missing for five days, was allegedly seen outside the church with a female Christian friend on Thursday. Some residents believe the woman, who is a teacher, converted to Christianity and is hiding inside the church. Others suspect she was forced into conversion and is being held against her will inside the church....

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Christians converting Muslims against their will how pathetic this reminds me of a campaign put forward by street dawah Australia called the ''persecution of Islam in Egypt''. Listing all the 'atrocities' committed against Muslims by Christians in Egypt truly Islam is the most pathetic religion on the planet.

Every aspect of Islam involves violence, or the threat of violence.

Islam is the "religion of violence", not the "religion of peace".

.'' I am confident that Zafar, Akyol, al-Marayati, Bassiouni, and Eteraz are making their way to Luxor as we speak, so as to explain to these enraged Muslim mobs that they are getting Islam all wrong, wrong, wrong''.

Yes. And they should also be explaining to Morsi, and all the Egyptian imams, and the Taliban, and the Iraquis, and the Iranians , and the etc. etc, that they are all getting islam **wrong**.

I wonder why they don't ? Goodness me, they couldn't be **lying**, could they ?

From the article:

"The fighting erupted late Thursday night when hundreds of Muslim residents tried to get inside the church. Police used tear gas to keep the crowd from storming the church as some of the residents burnt tires along a major highway and cut off traffic..."

And you know that millions of Muslims throughout the region are rubbing their hands with glee over this kind of news. The destruction of the last vestiges of Coptic Christianity in Egypt is welcome news to Muslims who want to see Egypt go the way of Sharia.

With Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood in power, what will Egypt look like in 10 years? Does anybody realistically think that Egypt will be LESS Islamic in 10 years time? Who really thinks that a considerable bulk of Egyptian Mohammedans are willing to settle for 'Islam lite'?

The nature and doctrines of Islam always gravitate to Muslims wanting and demanding more and more Islam. And what does more Islam mean? It means Sharia. And what is Sharia? Simply the product of devout and learned Islamic scholars earnestly pouring over Islam's canonical texts - The Qur'an, hadith and sira.

Islam's canonical texts state that Islam is a perfect religion (Qur'an, 5:3), and that Muhammad's behaviour is an "excellent pattern of conduct" for Muslims to follow (Qur'an,33:21). In light of all this it is clear that Islam must be wholly abandoned. All other schemes are delusion.

Speaking as an ex-Muslim, what I find most odd about Islam's non-Muslim supporters is that they seem incapable of making the leap of logic to grasp the fact that when non-Muslims support and/or defend Islam, they are supporting and/or defending the following:

* Slavery:

Qur'an 16:71
And Allah hath favored some of you above others in provision. Now those who are more favored will by no means hand over their provision to those (slaves) whom their right hands possess, so that they may be equal with them in respect thereof. Is it then the grace of Allah that they deny?

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Slavery#Islam_Permits_Slavery

* Sex Slavery:

Hadith, Sahih Bukhari Vol.7, Bk.62, No.137:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection."

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Concerns_with_Islam:_Sexual_Slavery_in_Islam

* The death for penalty for the apostates of Islam:

In Islam, the rejection in part (of any of the pillars, or individual principles of Islam), or discarding the faith as a whole, amounts to apostasy. It is not a quick or easy affair for an apostate or heterodox believer of Islam, as the punishment for apostasy in the Islamic faith is death. Though it may be argued that this is not clear through the Qur'an alone, scholars have found justification for the penalty from within its pages, and there are also numerous Sahih (authentic) hadiths confirming this punishment as attested by Prophet Muhammad. In Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57 we see it as “Allah's Apostle said, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him'”, and it was also one of only three reasons given by him where killing a Muslim is permitted.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy

* Child molestation:

Qur'an, 065.004
And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol.7, Bk.62, No.88:

Narrated Ursa:
The prophet wrote the [marriage contract] with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e.’ til his death).

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

* 100 Lashes for unmarried adulterers: Qur'an 24:2

* Stoning for married adulterers:

Sahih Bukhari, Vol.8, Bk.82, Number 826:

Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid:
Two men had a dispute in the presence of Allah's Apostle. One of them said, "Judge us according to Allah's Laws." The other who was more wise said, "Yes, Allah's Apostle, judge us according to Allah's Laws and allow me to speak (first)" The Prophet said to him, 'Speak " He said, "My son was a laborer for this man, and he committed illegal sexual intercourse with his wife, and the people told me that my son should be stoned to death, but I have given one-hundred sheep and a slave girl as a ransom (expiation) for my son's sin. Then I asked the religious learned people (about It), and they told me that my son should he flogged one-hundred stripes and should be exiled for one year, and only the wife of this man should be stoned to death " Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, I will judge you according to Allah's Laws: O man, as for your sheep and slave girl, they are to be returned to you." Then the Prophet had the man's son flogged one hundred stripes and exiled for one year, and ordered Unais Al-Aslami to go to the wife of the other man, and if she confessed, stone her to death. She confessed and was stoned to death.

Islam is no “religion of peace.” Islam is primarily a religion of “injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence.” The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur'an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur'an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.

Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

"One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur'an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way...

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified."


Hi there it's always good to see another ex Muslim on this site could you tell me a bit more about yourself such as you came to Islam and then by God's grace left it. Yes the Western defenders of Islam are so blinded by the Walt Disney version of Islam they are presented by Muslims they actually end up believing in it as for Slavery and the killing of apostates they simply say that it only applied in the time of Muhammad or that we are taking Muhammad's words out of context what they fail to understand is that Islam's teachings are universal and apply to all places and times in addition we never take things out of context if Muhammad said to kill apostates I fail to see how that can be taken out of context when it's so blatantly clear may these people see the truth as we did before it's too late.

Interfaith Outreach in Egypt: Muslims throw firebombs at police, try to storm church in search of woman suspected of converting to Christianity
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Islam does not allow its adherents to apostasize out of the faith. And moreover, it considers the wombs of Muslimahs to belong to the Ummah—they may only be used to breed more Muslims.

More:

Clashes between Copts and Muslims usually are sparked by disputes over rumors of conversion, Muslim-Christian love affairs and the construction of churches. Violence between Egypt's Christians and Muslims has risen in the past two years in the wake of the country's uprising that ousted longtime President Hosni Mubarak, but also weakened security across the nation.
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Note that this "violence between Egypt's Christians and Muslims" is *almost entirely* Muslim violence against Christians. Occasionally Christians act to defend themselves—but often, not even that. But you would never know that the violence is all one way from this AP headline.

More:

"Clashes between Copts and Muslims usually are sparked by disputes over rumors of conversion, Muslim-Christian love affairs and the construction of churches." That is, Muslims riot over those things, because Islamic law forbids Muslims to convert to Christianity, forbids Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men, and forbids Christians to construct new churches. That AP characterizes these things as sources of "clashes," as if both sides were equally to blame, is despicable, albeit common "journalistic" practice.
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Exactly.

More:

LUXOR, Egypt (AP) — Dozens of Muslim residents threw firebombs and rocks at police on Friday as they tried to storm a church in southern Egypt in search of a woman suspected of converting to Christianity, security officials said.
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Please note—here, the Muslims suspect a Muslim woman of converting to Christianity.

Only later do we read this:

Tensions rose after a 36 year-old Muslim woman, who has been missing for five days, was allegedly seen outside the church with a female Christian friend on Thursday. Some residents believe the woman, who is a teacher, converted to Christianity and is hiding inside the church. Others suspect she was forced into conversion and is being held against her will inside the church....
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Projection. Muslims both in Egypt and all over Dar-al-Islam kidnap, rape, and forcibly convert Christian girls and woman, and frequently hold them captive or threaten their birth families to prevent them from leaving.

This isn't the first time Muslims in Egypt have made these false accusations against the Copts. But under the increasing Islamization of Egypt, they may just drop the pretense entirely, and just go after Christians and Muslim apostates without even bothering with this kind of bullsh*t "cover story" Even in this case, it sounds pretty perfunctory.

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